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* PostHumousCharacter: By the time of the story, she's been dead for twelve years. Of course, since she's NotQuiteDead as the White Phoenix of the Crown, this calls into question the 'posthumous' part.

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* PostHumousCharacter: PosthumousCharacter: By the time of the story, she's been dead for twelve years. Of course, since she's NotQuiteDead as the White Phoenix of the Crown, this calls into question the 'posthumous' part.



* SignificantGreenEyedRedHead: Like in canon and like her first cousins once removed, Jean Grey and [[spoiler: Maddie Grey]].

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* SignificantGreenEyedRedHead: Like in canon and like her first cousins once removed, Jean Grey and [[spoiler: Maddie Maddie/Rachel Grey]].



* TeenPregnancy: Lily was 19 and a half when she got pregnant.

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* TeenPregnancy: Lily was 19 and a half when she got pregnant.pregnant with Harry.

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* DeadpanSnarker: Occasionally. Whether it was Thor and Loki's influence - or conversly they got it from him - is a RunningGag in the series.

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* DeadpanSnarker: Occasionally. Whether it was Thor and Loki's influence - or conversly conversely they got it from him - is a RunningGag in the series.



* ExactWords:
** [[FriendlyAddressPrivileges When he tells Harry to call him Joshua]], he's neatly avoiding a name Harry recognises - after all, it ''is'' the most common English translation of his ''actual'' name, Yeshua.
** Possible example, when he calls the place where he and Harry meet Between. Valid English translations for [[PurgatoryAndLimbo Limbo]] are hem (when speaking more generally), edge, border (land)... or in between (place). While WordOfGod has made no comment on this, it wouldn't be entirely out of character. Considering this might be taken as implying that Harry were (near) dead or otherwise out of body - it's probably best he didn't elaborate.

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ExactWords: [[FriendlyAddressPrivileges When he tells Harry to call him Joshua]], he's neatly avoiding a name Harry recognises - after all, it ''is'' the most common English translation of his ''actual'' name, Yeshua.
** Possible example, when he calls the place where he and Harry meet Between. Valid English translations for [[PurgatoryAndLimbo Limbo]] are hem (when speaking more generally), edge, border (land)... or in between (place). While WordOfGod has made no comment on this, it wouldn't be entirely out of character. Considering this might be taken as implying that Harry were (near) dead or otherwise out of body - it's probably best he didn't elaborate.
Yeshua.



** He's very good at this when he wants to be - InMysteriousWays, naturally. So much so that Wanda feels a bit [[ThereAreNoCoincidences paranoid]] and positively ''nagged'' by him at one point to stop drowning her sorrows and go and reconcile with [[spoiler: her daughter]] ''already'', because of constant plot events reminding her of it. She mostly seems ruefully amused, and a little annoyed, by it. Note that it's unclear if he even ''is'' involved, whether directly [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane or]] indirectly - she just ''thinks'' it would be like him.
** For a different loophole: there's no rule saying that examining someone in the role of [[JudgementOfTheDead judge of the living and the dead]] can't be dual purposed as therapeutic counseling if he's checking their soul over anyway, is there?

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** He's very good at this when he wants to be - InMysteriousWays, naturally. So much so that Wanda feels a bit [[ThereAreNoCoincidences paranoid]] and positively ''nagged'' by him at one point to stop drowning her sorrows and go and reconcile with [[spoiler: her daughter]] ''already'', because of constant plot events reminding her of it. She mostly seems ruefully amused, and a little annoyed, by it. Note that it's unclear if he even ''is'' involved, whether directly [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane or]] indirectly - she just ''thinks'' it would be like him.
** For a different loophole: there's
There's no rule saying that examining someone in the role of [[JudgementOfTheDead judge of the living and the dead]] can't be dual purposed as therapeutic counseling if he's checking their soul over anyway, is there?



** Implied to have also nagged Wanda into pulling herself out of a bottle and reconciling with her daughter indirectly by sending Michael to her for help with ''his'' daughter.



** However, impressively, he's also in the running for nicest all round character in the entire series (again, with the possible exception of Diana, as well as Cedric, Clark, and perhaps Michael Carpenter, the latter two of whom happen to be disciples of his).

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** However, impressively, he's also in the running for nicest all round character in the entire series (again, with the possible exception of Diana, as well as Cedric, Clark, and perhaps Michael Carpenter, the latter two of whom happen to be disciples of his). series.



* NoodleIncident: Apparently he, Thor and Loki hung out a very long time ago. They were supposedly a bad influence on him, though it's occasionally hinted that it [[FridgeBrilliance might have]] [[JewsLoveToArgue been]] the other way around.

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Apparently he, Thor and Loki hung out a very long time ago. They were supposedly a bad influence on him, though it's occasionally hinted that it [[FridgeBrilliance might have]] [[JewsLoveToArgue been]] the other way around.



* WordsCanBreakMyBones: Inverted. His chat with Harry, while primarily exactly what it is - a sympathetic ear lent to Harry's problems - subtly has lasting, beneficial effects going above and beyond good advice and counseling. Those could be due to the words being thus multi-purposed; and it's entirely possible that [[ChekhovsGun other chats]] in-story had effects yet to be revealed - including the one with Gambit.
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* CrypticConversation: She can be rather sparing on the details of what she shares, particularly in her conversation with Hermione, who sourly thinks that Harry came by his secretive tendencies honestly.

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* AffablyEvil: He's not exactly evil, more an indifferent force of nature that happens to kill a ''lot'' of people, but he's quite polite - even when Harry's threatening him.

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* AffablyEvil: He's not exactly evil, more an indifferent force of nature that happens to kill a ''lot'' of people, but he's quite polite - even when Harry's threatening him. He's also accepting of the idea that he might have his Herald replaced (eventually), and is willing to experiment with the whole 'allowing feelings' thing, even sincerely warning the Surfer that he might well be worse off for it.



* MindRape: Habitually removes or at least severely dulls the empathic capacity of his Heralds. He says that this is to prevent them from going mad, but when the Silver Surfer appeals to him to retain it after Sakaar, he accepts, with the proviso that they'll revert if the Surfer can't cope.
* NoIndoorVoice: He usually speaks in a full CapsLock to convey this via PaintingTheMedium, though he can tone it down a bit.



* SmallRoleBigImpact: He was apparently nearly responsible for destroying Krypton in the past. He also sends Sunniva and Harry to Sakaar.
* WorthyOpponent: Averted. Sunniva absolutely loathes him (although she acknowledges the necessity of his existence). In turn, he's surprisingly polite to Harry and Sunniva, if disconcerted at first that he's being threatened by a kid.

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* SmallRoleBigImpact: He was apparently nearly responsible for destroying Krypton in the past. He also sends Sunniva and Harry to Sakaar.Sakaar, and is summoned by the former to [[spoiler: perform the coup de grace on the Grandmaster, devouring him]].
* WorthyOpponent: Averted. Sunniva absolutely loathes him (although she acknowledges the necessity of his existence).existence), all the more so after she sees how utterly broken the Surfer is. In turn, he's surprisingly polite to Harry and Sunniva, if disconcerted at first that he's being threatened by a kid.



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!!Gorakhnath

-->''Because [Taliesin] was your name when we first met. And in part because it is a reminder, old friend: for that was when you were at your best.''

One of those strange entities who's a bit hard to classify, being an exceptionally powerful {{tulpa}} (psychic entity) who was created an unknown number of millennia ago by Vishnu to defeat a psychic demon called Logos. After that, he went travelling the universe in search of knowledge, meeting the Phoenix in the process. Now, he's a yogi and teacher in his own right, with one of his former students being none other than Stephen Strange himself. The two disagree philosophically, but Strange comes to him in ''Ghosts'', asking specifically for his different perspective when teaching Harry.

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!!Gorakhnath

-->''Because [Taliesin] was your name
The Silver Surfer]]

!!Norrin Radd a.k.a. the Silver Surfer

The Herald of Galactus. The Angel of Death and the Harbinger of the End-Times for countless worlds,
when we first met. And in part because it is a reminder, old friend: for that was when you were at your best.''

One of those strange entities who's
finally free to think a bit hard to classify, being an exceptionally powerful {{tulpa}} (psychic entity) who was created an unknown number of millennia ago by Vishnu to defeat a psychic demon called Logos. After that, more clearly, he went travelling the universe in search of knowledge, meeting the Phoenix in the process. Now, he's a yogi and teacher in his own right, with one is thoroughly sick of his former students being none other than Stephen Strange himself. The two disagree philosophically, but Strange comes to him in ''Ghosts'', asking specifically for his different perspective when teaching Harry.
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* BrokenAce: Immensely powerful, entrancing beautiful, with knowledge beyond telling... and, at best, borderline suicidal.
* ChromeChampion: As per canon, he's covered in silvery metal, and he's immensely powerful. Not only that, but he functions as this for Galactus, as his Herald, and very unwillingly, as the Champion of Sakaar.
* DeathSeeker: On Sakaar, he makes it very plain that whatever scheme Sunniva has in mind doesn't need to account for his life, because he has absolutely no desire to survive what follows. When he's forced to attack the heroes, he begs them to give no quarter as he will not be able to, and is positively ecstatic with relief when he hears that this will be so. After, he's a little more optimistic, but Julie raises the possibility that he may still want to die when he can.
* FightingFromTheInside: The Grandmaster can control his actions, but either can't control his voice or doesn't bother, so he's entirely capable of begging for death before he's forced to hurt someone.
* ForcedIntoEvil: While he made the pact with Galactus to preserve his world, his empathy was dulled to be a more effective Herald/not go insane, and then explicitly by the Grandmaster, who runs him like a puppet at times. No wonder he wants to die.
* NiceGuy: He's quite friendly, genuinely kind when he can be, and expresses gratitude for intercession on his behalf even when he's asking people to stop.
* PhysicalGod: He's the longstanding Champion of Sakaar and can fight evenly with a former [[spoiler: King of Asgard]], even when he ''really'' doesn't want to.
* TimeAbyss: There's no clear statement on how old the Surfer is, but his first substantive appearance is ''40,000 years'' before the main story, he's implied to have already been doing his job for a ''long'' time, and thanks to his EarlyBirdCameo in Book I, he's guaranteed to be doing it for 40 millennia more. He seems fairly at peace with the concept, since it means freedom eventually, and he can do it on his terms.

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!!Gorakhnath

-->''Because [Taliesin] was your name when we first met. And in part because it is a reminder, old friend: for that was when you were at your best.''

One of those strange entities who's a bit hard to classify, being an exceptionally powerful {{tulpa}} (psychic entity) who was created an unknown number of millennia ago by Vishnu to defeat a psychic demon called Logos. After that, he went travelling the universe in search of knowledge, meeting the Phoenix in the process. Now, he's a yogi and teacher in his own right, with one of his former students being none other than Stephen Strange himself. The two disagree philosophically, but Strange comes to him in ''Ghosts'', asking specifically for his different perspective when teaching Harry.

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* BlackSheep: For the Asgardian Royal Family.
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** He talks to Harry, lending him a sympathetic ear to listen to his problems after ''Forever Red'', and doing so not because of Harry's ApocalypseMaiden nature, but because... well. See the folder quote. He also pops up in ''Bloody Hell'', and though his purpose was more to give Harry a warning, he first sincerely congratulates Harry on resisting the extremely strong temptation to [[CuttingTheKnot Cut The Knot]] and save Carol by [[spoiler: going Dark Phoenix]], doing what is right rather than what is easy. Both times he appears, he provides gentle but serious advice. On the latter occasion, he also takes [[spoiler: Gambit]], who's suffering from CloningBlues aside and has a little chat with him, while also offering the same to the others present. He's pretty much the nicest member of the collected pantheons that we've seen, with the possible exception of Diana. [[JerkassGods Granted, this is not especially hard.]]

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** He talks to Harry, lending him a sympathetic ear to listen to his problems after ''Forever Red'', and doing so not because of Harry's ApocalypseMaiden nature, but because... well. See the folder quote. He also pops up in ''Bloody Hell'', and though his purpose was more to give Harry a warning, he first sincerely congratulates Harry on resisting the extremely strong temptation to [[CuttingTheKnot Cut The Knot]] and save Carol by [[spoiler: going Dark Phoenix]], doing what is right rather than what is easy. Both times he appears, he provides gentle but serious advice. On the latter occasion, he also takes [[spoiler: Gambit]], who's suffering from CloningBlues CloneAngst, aside and has a little chat with him, while also offering the same to the others present. He's pretty much the nicest member of the collected pantheons that we've seen, with the possible exception of Diana. [[JerkassGods Granted, this is not especially hard.]]

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* AntiHero: While they're pretty friendly, and very fond of humanity, humanity tends to see their best face. By most human moral standards, they're capable of being astonishingly ruthless, even savage, when provoked - the effective genocide of the Dheronians (after the Dheronians committed genocide against Krypton) being a prime example. It's also hinted from time to time, usually when referring to Bor, that at various points in their history, they've been considerably more violent and less conventionally heroic. In recent times, from Bor's reign onwards, this isn't entirely their fault - [[spoiler: Malekith tried to use the Reality Stone to corrupt their entire civilisation into the psycho barbarians he imagined/needed them to be, and in Bor's case, it took. As for Asgard as a whole, it set them back by hundreds of millennia, despite attempts at mitigation]].

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* AntiHero: While they're pretty friendly, and very fond of humanity, humanity tends to see their best face. By most human moral standards, they're capable of being astonishingly ruthless, even savage, when provoked - the effective genocide of the Dheronians (after the Dheronians committed genocide against Krypton) being a prime example. It's also hinted from time to time, usually when referring to Bor, that at various points in their history, they've been considerably more violent and less conventionally heroic. In recent times, times (and by "recent" we mean the last six millennia), from Bor's reign onwards, this isn't entirely their fault - [[spoiler: Malekith tried to use the Reality Stone to corrupt their entire civilisation into the psycho barbarians he imagined/needed them to be, and in Bor's case, it took. As for Asgard as a whole, it set them back by hundreds of millennia, despite attempts at mitigation]].



* WorldOfHam: Most Asgardians are very, very loud.

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* WorldOfHam: Most Asgardians are very, very loud.
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* AbusiveParents: He had one in Bor. Odin ''tried'' to [[BreakingTheCycleOfBadParenting be better]] to Thor and Loki, and undoubtedly succeeded... but how much better is up for debate, with Harry citing the GenerationalTrauma in Book III.

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* AbusiveParents: He had one in Bor. Odin ''tried'' to [[BreakingTheCycleOfBadParenting be better]] to Thor and Loki, and undoubtedly succeeded... but how succeeded. How much better is up for debate, with Harry citing the GenerationalTrauma in Book III.



* AdaptationalNiceGuy: Compared to his MCU counterpart, he's quite reasonable and even kind, though he can be very hard and cold if he feels that it's necessary.



* BirdsOfAFeather: Thor notes that Odin sees much of himself in Steve, with both of them being old soldiers.



* FriendlyAddressPrivileges: Essentially, all of Midgard (Earth) has these: as Odin notes in the first book, Midgardians' custom of dropping the decorum around authority figures does ''not'' translate into a lack of respect on their part (rather the opposite), and by now he knows this because the Avengers taught it to him.

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* FriendlyAddressPrivileges: Essentially, all of Midgard (Earth) has these: as Odin notes in the first book, Midgardians' Midgardians', particularly Tony's, custom of dropping the decorum around authority figures does ''not'' translate into a lack of respect on their part (rather the opposite), and by now he knows this because the Avengers taught it to him.



** Most aptly demonstrated when he slams Chthon, who's threatening his family, face first into the floor at the Battle of London.

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** Most aptly demonstrated when he slams Chthon, who's threatening his family, face first into the floor ground at the Battle of London.



* CompositeCharacter: He used to be the God of Thunder and Lightning before Thor, and wielded Mjolnir. Also, being a practically forgotten eldest child of Odin gives him shades of the MCU Hela - though without the latter's homicidal inclinations or interest in the throne (which he gave up claim to at the first opportunity). In-universe, he's also both an Asgardian prince and Santa Claus.

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* CompositeCharacter: He used to be the God of Thunder and Lightning before Thor, and wielded Mjolnir. Thor. Also, being a Mjolnir-wielding, practically forgotten eldest child of Odin gives him shades of the MCU Hela - though without the latter's homicidal inclinations or interest in the throne (which he gave up claim to at the first opportunity). In-universe, he's also both an Asgardian prince and Santa Claus.Claus, who is a composite character of his own.

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* AnythingThatMoves: A throwaway line by Odin in the first book implies that they're responsible for the existence of winged horses. This gets a CallBack in the sequel when Harry encounters Beauxbatons' elephant-sized Abraxan horses, remembers this, and inwardly decides that Huginn and Muninn have a lot to answer for.


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* ExtremeOmnisexual: A throwaway line by Odin in the first book implies that they're responsible for the existence of winged horses. This gets a CallBack in the sequel when Harry encounters Beauxbatons' elephant-sized Abraxan horses, remembers this, and inwardly decides that Huginn and Muninn have a lot to answer for.
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Yes, [[UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}} that one]], the Son of Man, the Messiah... and generally the NiceGuy of the collected pantheons. Apparently Thor and Loki were a bad influence on him. Tends to keep himself to himself and, like his father, work through agents. Makes a direct appearance in ''Ghosts of the Past'' after the ''Forever Red'' arc, and briefly appears again after the ''Bloody Hell'' arc. Following the former, because of [[spoiler: the Dark Phoenix]] incident, he seems to have taken to functioning as something to Harry that the latter describes as a combination of "parole officer and social worker"[[note]]to Clark[=/=]Kal-El, when Clark quotes him.[[/note]].

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Yes, [[UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}} that one]], the Son of Man, the Messiah... and generally the NiceGuy of the collected pantheons. Apparently Thor and Loki were a bad influence on him. Tends to keep himself to himself and, like his father, Father, work through agents. Makes a direct appearance in ''Ghosts of the Past'' after the ''Forever Red'' arc, and briefly appears again after the ''Bloody Hell'' arc. Following the former, because of [[spoiler: the Dark Phoenix]] incident, he seems to have taken to functioning as something to Harry that the latter describes as a combination of "parole officer and social worker"[[note]]to Clark[=/=]Kal-El, when Clark quotes him.[[/note]].worker."



** It's implied that 'the White God', of whom he is technically as an aspect, may be [[CosmicEntity an Elder God]] - though not even the other Skyfathers are all that sure what he is.

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** It's implied that 'the White God', of whom he is believed to be technically as an aspect, may be [[CosmicEntity an Elder God]] - though not even the other Skyfathers are all that sure what he is.



TheAntichrist of ''Literature/GoodOmens'': "the Adversary, Destroyer of Kings, Angel of the Bottomless Pit, Great Beast that is called Dragon, Prince of This World, Father of Lies, Spawn of Satan, and Lord of Darkness". As anyone who has read ''Good Omens'' knows, Adam himself had other plans about starting the apocalypse he was born to bring on. Technically he's a demigod (or equivalent), but easily as powerful as most "full" deities.

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TheAntichrist of ''Literature/GoodOmens'': "the Adversary, Destroyer of Kings, Angel of the Bottomless Pit, Great Beast that is called Dragon, Prince of This World, Father of Lies, Spawn of Satan, and Lord of Darkness". As anyone who has read ''Good Omens'' knows, Adam himself had other plans about starting the apocalypse he was born to bring on. Technically he's a demigod (or equivalent), but easily as powerful as most "full" deities.
deities. All canon tropes from ''Literature/GoodOmens'' apply.



* IHaveManyNames: She's been called the Grim Reaper (not that she's grim or a reaper), Teleute, Didi and, of course, Death.

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* IHaveManyNames: She's been called the Grim Reaper (not that she's grim or or, technically, a reaper), Teleute, Didi and, of course, Death.



* KillItWithFire: Extends this to everything from Dementors to planets to galaxies.

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* InterspeciesFriendship: Frigga reports that he was close to the Kryptonian House of El.

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* InterspeciesFriendship: Frigga reports that he was close to the Kryptonian House of El.El, and it's later confirmed that he's an ally, if not exactly of a friend, of Doctor Strange.



** The third book reveals that [[spoiler: he left linear time to help mitigate the effects of Malekith's attack on Asgard and its people]].

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** The third book reveals that [[spoiler: he left linear time to help mitigate the effects of Malekith's attack on Asgard and its people]].people, with some help from the Lady Knight and Doctor Strange]].
* SoProudOfYou: A side benefit of being God of Time is that he can see what his descendants are like, and with the exception of his son and Cul, he is very proud of them.
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* SociallyAwkwardHero: She's an extremely competent Phoenix host, an immensely powerful goddess who's absolutely confident when on the job, completing her objectives with precision and efficiency. When she's off it and socialising with people, she's usually a bit awkward and stilted.
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* ParentalSubstitute: She becomes to be this to Harry during his being stranded in the distant past in the ''Following Yonder Star'' arc - see also the Mama Bear and Big Sister Instinct entries - he is, after all, her nephew (if somewhat distantly).

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Please, limit the religious gushing.


** When he tells Harry to call him Joshua, apart from being a [[FriendlyAddressPrivileges friendly]] way of not scaring Harry further with TheReveal by neatly avoiding a name Harry recognises - this ''is'' the most common English translation of his ''actual'' name, Yeshua.

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** [[FriendlyAddressPrivileges When he tells Harry to call him Joshua, apart from being a [[FriendlyAddressPrivileges friendly]] way of not scaring Harry further with TheReveal by Joshua]], he's neatly avoiding a name Harry recognises - this after all, it ''is'' the most common English translation of his ''actual'' name, Yeshua.



*** The combination of both almost, but not quite, qualifies as a StealthPun and shout out [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory to]] this very wiki...



* LooksLikeJesus: Subverted. Unlike most depictions of Jesus, which have him as tall, bearded, often blue eyed and with straight (sometimes blond) hair, he ''actually'' looks more or less as if a TV series would cast a young ''Creator/DannyDevito'' for the part: a [[ExpectingSomeoneTaller short]] guy with curly black hair and brown eyes. The latter is always [[ColorCodedEyes noted]] first off by the naration - as in a setting where nearly ''everyone'' else has strikingly significant and/or flamboyant eye colors, a warm brown is very unusual by sheer contrast.\\

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* LooksLikeJesus: Subverted. Unlike most depictions of Jesus, which have him as tall, bearded, often blue eyed and with straight (sometimes blond) hair, he ''actually'' looks more or less as if a TV series would cast a young ''Creator/DannyDevito'' what you might expect for the part: a Middle-Eastern carpenter in Roman Palestine: a [[ExpectingSomeoneTaller short]] guy with curly black hair and brown eyes. The latter is always [[ColorCodedEyes noted]] first off by the naration - as in a setting where nearly ''everyone'' else has strikingly significant and/or flamboyant eye colors, a warm brown is very unusual by sheer contrast.\\



* LoopholeAbuse: InMysteriousWays, naturally. With a side order of ContrivedCoincidence and MaybeMagicMaybeMundane.
** So much so that [[spoiler: the Sorceress Supreme]] feels a bit [[ThereAreNoCoincidences paranoid]] and positively ''nagged'' by him at one point to stop drowning her sorrows and go and reconcile with [[spoiler: her daughter]] ''already'', because of constant plot events reminding her of it. She mostly seems ruefully amused, and a little annoyed, by it. Note that it's unclear if he even ''is'' involved, whether directly [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane or]] indirectly - she just ''thinks'' it would be like him.

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So much so that [[spoiler: the Sorceress Supreme]] Wanda feels a bit [[ThereAreNoCoincidences paranoid]] and positively ''nagged'' by him at one point to stop drowning her sorrows and go and reconcile with [[spoiler: her daughter]] ''already'', because of constant plot events reminding her of it. She mostly seems ruefully amused, and a little annoyed, by it. Note that it's unclear if he even ''is'' involved, whether directly [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane or]] indirectly - she just ''thinks'' it would be like him.



** It's hinted that he uses the fact he's supposed to watch [[spoiler: Harry]] for the Council Elite (as a threat) as watching ''out for'' them (as someone to be guarded). Either way, when watching there is little that slips him by (if anything) - he specifically notes that while the average cosmic entity misses a lot of things (mostly out of disinterest), he does not.

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** It's hinted that he uses the fact he's supposed to watch interprets his role of watching [[spoiler: Harry]] for the Council Elite (as a threat) as watching ''out for'' them (as someone to be guarded). Either way, when watching there is little that slips him by (if anything) - he specifically notes that while the average cosmic entity misses a lot of things (mostly out of disinterest), he does not. looked after).



* NiceGuy: He talks to Harry, lending him a sympathetic ear to listen to his problems after ''Forever Red'', and doing so not because of Harry's ApocalypseMaiden nature, but because... well. See the folder quote. He also pops up in ''Bloody Hell'', and though his purpose was more to give Harry a warning, he first sincerely congratulates Harry on resisting the extremely strong temptation to [[CuttingTheKnot Cut The Knot]] and save Carol by [[spoiler: going Dark Phoenix]], doing what is right rather than what is easy. Both times he appears, he provides gentle but serious advice. On the latter occasion, he also takes [[spoiler: Gambit]], who's suffering from CloningBlues aside and has a little chat with him, while also offering the same to the others present.
** In short, he's pretty much the nicest member of the collected pantheons that we've seen, with the possible exception of Diana. [[JerkassGods Granted, this is not especially hard.]] However, impressively, he's also in the running for nicest all round character in the entire series (again, with the possible exception of Diana, as well as Cedric, Clark, and perhaps Michael Carpenter, the latter two of whom happen to be disciples of his).
* NiceJewishBoy: The archetypal example.

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* NiceGuy: NiceGuy:
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He talks to Harry, lending him a sympathetic ear to listen to his problems after ''Forever Red'', and doing so not because of Harry's ApocalypseMaiden nature, but because... well. See the folder quote. He also pops up in ''Bloody Hell'', and though his purpose was more to give Harry a warning, he first sincerely congratulates Harry on resisting the extremely strong temptation to [[CuttingTheKnot Cut The Knot]] and save Carol by [[spoiler: going Dark Phoenix]], doing what is right rather than what is easy. Both times he appears, he provides gentle but serious advice. On the latter occasion, he also takes [[spoiler: Gambit]], who's suffering from CloningBlues aside and has a little chat with him, while also offering the same to the others present.
** In short, he's
present. He's pretty much the nicest member of the collected pantheons that we've seen, with the possible exception of Diana. [[JerkassGods Granted, this is not especially hard.]] ]]
**
However, impressively, he's also in the running for nicest all round character in the entire series (again, with the possible exception of Diana, as well as Cedric, Clark, and perhaps Michael Carpenter, the latter two of whom happen to be disciples of his).
* NiceJewishBoy: The archetypal example. He's very nice, and he is very definitely Jewish.



* OddFriendship: He name-drops Adam, the AntiAntichrist of ''Literature/GoodOmens'', when he's talking to Harry after the [[spoiler:Dark Phoenix incident]]. Apparently he knows him well enough to think he and Harry would get along.

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* OddFriendship: OddFriendship:
**
He name-drops Adam, the AntiAntichrist of ''Literature/GoodOmens'', when he's talking to Harry after the [[spoiler:Dark Phoenix incident]]. Apparently he knows him well enough to think he and Harry would get along.



** It's implied [[spoiler: (by Odin), that God the Father may be an Elder God (though according to Odin "He's not one to elaborate on such matters"); and if the story suscribes to Christian trinitarian notions, then that would include Joshua. All of this is, as usually, downplayed.]]

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** It's implied [[spoiler: (by Odin), that God the Father 'the White God', of whom he is technically as an aspect, may be [[CosmicEntity an Elder God (though according to Odin "He's God]] - though not one to elaborate on such matters"); and if even the story suscribes to Christian trinitarian notions, then other Skyfathers are all that would include Joshua. All of this is, as usually, downplayed.]]sure what he is.



* TheDeadHaveNames: He uses this as a teaching tool in one scene. When [[spoiler: Harry]] is thinking about getting over all skis with supernatural power and starting a war among the gods for the sake of rescuing [[LoveMakesYouCrazy beloved]] [[spoiler: Carol]], Joshua takes them to London's battle memorial stone and has [[spoiler: Harry]] read him all the names of the fallen in the battle of the gods that took place there. Going by [[spoiler: Harry]] being much more considerate of unintended consequences to potential bystanders in later chapters, it's very effective.
->There were [...] a lot of [names].

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* TheDeadHaveNames: He uses this as a teaching tool in one scene. When [[spoiler: Harry]] Harry makes it clear that he is thinking about getting over all skis with supernatural power and starting a war among quite willing to use the gods for Phoenix to threaten the sake of rescuing [[LoveMakesYouCrazy beloved]] [[spoiler: Carol]], Council Elite into resurrecting Carol if it had come to it, Joshua takes them to London's battle memorial stone and has [[spoiler: Harry]] read him all stone, pointing to the names of the fallen caught up in the a battle of the gods that took place there. Going by [[spoiler: Harry]] being much more considerate of unintended consequences to potential bystanders in later chapters, it's very effective.
->There were [...] a lot of [names].
gods. Harry visibly takes this onboard.



* WordsCanBreakMyBones: Downplayed to the point of MaybeMagicMaybeMundane, but meet the grand master: up to and including Words Can Be A SoulCuttingBlade[[note]]used for mental trauma surgery[[/note]]. In line with his badass pacifist tendencies it's only used for [[MundaneUtility mundane purposes]], though.
** [[spoiler: His chat with Harry, while primarily exactly what it is - a sympathetic ear lent to Harry's problems - subtly has lasting, beneficial effects going above and beyond good advice and counseling. Those could be due to the words being thus multi-purposed; and it's entirely possible that [[ChekhovsGun other chats]] in-story had effects yet to be revealed - including the one with Gambit.]]

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* WordsCanBreakMyBones: Downplayed to the point of MaybeMagicMaybeMundane, but meet the grand master: up to and including Words Can Be A SoulCuttingBlade[[note]]used for mental trauma surgery[[/note]]. In line with his badass pacifist tendencies it's only used for [[MundaneUtility mundane purposes]], though.
** [[spoiler:
Inverted. His chat with Harry, while primarily exactly what it is - a sympathetic ear lent to Harry's problems - subtly has lasting, beneficial effects going above and beyond good advice and counseling. Those could be due to the words being thus multi-purposed; and it's entirely possible that [[ChekhovsGun other chats]] in-story had effects yet to be revealed - including the one with Gambit.]]
Gambit.



* SmallRoleBigImpact: He has yet to make a true appearance, but he was responsible for giving Harry Dresden Soulfire (like he did in canon), only several years early this time. So far, Dresden's used it to heavily injure Gravemoss and Voldemort.

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* SmallRoleBigImpact: He has yet to make a true appearance, but he was responsible for giving Harry Dresden Soulfire (like he did in canon), only several years early this time. time - in this case, for his willing sacrifice against Gravemoss. So far, Dresden's used it to heavily severely injure Gravemoss and Voldemort.



TheAntichrist of ''Literature/GoodOmens'': "the Adversary, Destroyer of Kings, Angel of the Bottomless Pit, Great Beast that is called Dragon, Prince of This World, Father of Lies, Spawn of Satan, and Lord of Darkness". As anyone who has read Good Omens knows, Adam himself had other plans about starting the apocalypse he was born to bring on. Technically he's a demigod (or equivalent), but easily as powerful as most "full" deities.

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!!Adam Young a.k.a. The Antichrist.

TheAntichrist of ''Literature/GoodOmens'': "the Adversary, Destroyer of Kings, Angel of the Bottomless Pit, Great Beast that is called Dragon, Prince of This World, Father of Lies, Spawn of Satan, and Lord of Darkness". As anyone who has read Good Omens ''Good Omens'' knows, Adam himself had other plans about starting the apocalypse he was born to bring on. Technically he's a demigod (or equivalent), but easily as powerful as most "full" deities.



* AntiAntiChrist: Was expected to destroy the world, and didn't. Adam was born to start Armageddon, the Last Battle between Heaven and Hell.

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* AntiAntiChrist: Was expected to destroy the world, and didn't. Adam was born to start Armageddon, the Last Battle between Heaven and Hell.Hell, and made it very clear that he wasn't interested.



* GodzillaThreshold: Wanda's reaction to Constantine's intentions to get him involved in the finale of ''Child of the Storm'' implies this - though given his disposition, it's probably because he just ''really'' doesn't want to get involved.

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* GodzillaThreshold: Wanda's reaction to Constantine's intentions to get him involved in the finale of ''Child of the Storm'' implies this - though given his disposition, it's probably because he just ''really'' doesn't want to get involved.involved (and, like everyone else, probably doesn't like Constantine very much).



* NotSoDifferentRemark: It's stated that Harry and Adam would "get on" like a house on fire if they met.

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* NotSoDifferentRemark: It's stated that Harry and Adam would "get on" like a house on fire if they met. Given their willingness to flip off both the divine and the demonic and preference for the human path, this seems quite likely.



* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: The Council Elite. They bicker, a lot, and they're stood off by Odin and cowed into submission. However, Odin goes to face them in full expectation that he'll probably die protecting his grandson, and Strange's ''job'' is fighting Skyfather plus level beings (and he had armed himself with [[spoiler: the Tesseract]]). As Thor and Joshua warn Harry, they are ''not'' to be underestimated. They're in the same order of power as Odin, who Harry himself noted could squash him without trying should it ever come to that (Phoenix related interventions excepted), and they a) live more or less forever, b) hold grudges, c) specialise in DisproportionateRetribution.

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* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: The Council Elite. They bicker, a lot, and they're stood off by Odin and cowed into submission.submission by Strange. However, Odin goes to face them in full expectation that he'll probably die protecting his grandson, and Strange's ''job'' is fighting Skyfather plus level beings (and he had armed himself with [[spoiler: the Tesseract]]). As Thor and Joshua warn Harry, they are ''not'' to be underestimated. They're in the same order of power as Odin, who Harry himself noted could squash him without trying should it ever come to that (Phoenix related interventions excepted), and they a) live more or less forever, b) hold grudges, c) specialise in DisproportionateRetribution.



* BigGood: Of the Hindu Pantheon. He was also one of the gods who is stated to have faith in Harry's ability to [[spoiler: control the Phoenix within him.]]
** It's also stated that the Hindu Pantheon was one of the only ones to keep watching over Earth after the Celestials ordered the pantheons to cease direct interference with it.

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* BigGood: Of the Hindu Pantheon. He was also one of the gods who is stated to have faith in Harry's ability to [[spoiler: control the Phoenix within him.]]
**
]] It's also stated that the Hindu Pantheon was one of the only ones to keep watching over Earth after the Celestials ordered the pantheons to cease direct interference with it.



* TopGod: The ancient head of the Egyptian pantheon, and extremely powerful with it.

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* TopGod: The ancient head of the Egyptian pantheon, and extremely powerful with it.
it. This status at least partially carries over to the Council Elite, since the others are guaranteed to at least listen to him.



* BlueAndOrangeMorality: Even the nicer ones do things for reasons that can be quite alien to humans, largely because of their responsibilities and their differing perceptions of the universe. They also have to follow Rules, ones that are unclear (but apparently very clear on the subject of offspring).

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* BlueAndOrangeMorality: Even the nicer ones do things for reasons that can be quite alien to humans, largely because of their responsibilities and their differing drastically different perceptions of the universe. They also have to follow Rules, ones that are unclear (but apparently very clear on the subject of offspring).



* DidWeJustHaveTeaWithCthulhu: Because she's really quite a nice person (for a somewhat loose value of "person"), most encounters with her fall into this. Dumbledore and Carol both have pleasant conversations with her at different points, and she's welcoming and polite to [[spoiler: Maddie,]] Jono, Sir Fix, and Dresden.

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* DidWeJustHaveTeaWithCthulhu: DidWeJustHaveTeaWithCthulhu:
**
Because she's really quite a nice person (for a somewhat loose value of "person"), most encounters with her fall into this. Dumbledore and Carol both have pleasant conversations with her at different points, and she's welcoming and polite to [[spoiler: Maddie,]] Jono, Sir Fix, and Dresden.



* LoopholeAbuse: She's limited in how she can intervene, since her kind are bound by Rules. However, she helps out where she can, with chapter 75 being the most blatant example - not only does she explain to Carol how she's NotQuiteDead (she's wearing the Green Lantern Ring, thanks to Doctor Strange, which has decided to make its full abilities apparent), she buses in the late Alan Scott, former owner of said ring, to give her a crash course in how to use it.
** In ''Ghosts'', she, Destruction, Dream and Delirium all bend the rules as far as they can to help [[spoiler: Harry.]]

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* LoopholeAbuse: She's limited in how she can intervene, since her kind are bound by Rules. However, she helps out where she can, with chapter 75 being can.
** The finale of Book I is
the most blatant example - not only does she explain to Carol how she's NotQuiteDead (she's wearing the Green Lantern Ring, thanks to Doctor Strange, which has decided to make its full abilities apparent), she buses in the late Alan Scott, former owner of said ring, to give her a crash course in how to use it.
** In ''Ghosts'', she, Destruction, Dream and Delirium all bend the rules as far as they can to help [[spoiler: Harry.]]Harry]], arranging for a guide for the rescue party, a briefing, and purging [[spoiler: Maddie's]] programming.



** For this reason, Frigga very bluntly informs Harry (who was looking like he was planning on trying to get Her involved) that She is ''not'' one who takes being summoned well. Dumbledore's account of what happened to the Clan Akkaba after they tried that trick only underlines this point. Granted, She probably wouldn't have minded in his case, but that wasn't known at the time (even if Odin did suspect it).

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** For this reason, Frigga very bluntly informs Harry (who was looking like he was planning on trying to get Her involved) that She is ''not'' one who takes being summoned well. Dumbledore's account of what happened to the Clan Akkaba after they tried that trick only underlines this point. Granted, She probably wouldn't have minded in his case, but that wasn't known at the time (even if Odin did suspect it).



* GoodIsNotNice: While Lily is a pretty sweet person (though she can be almost obnoxiously cryptic sometimes, like her son), Destruction as a whole is, after all, Destruction, and has no problem with destroying whole planets if She decides that they're past salvation/need to be destroyed for a greater purpose.

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* GoodIsNotNice: While Lily is a pretty sweet person (though she can be almost obnoxiously cryptic sometimes, like her son), she is the dominant aspect - no the only one. Destruction as a whole is, after all, Destruction, and has no problem with destroying whole planets if She decides that they're past salvation/need to be destroyed for a greater purpose.purpose, and one of her aspects is freaking ''Galactus''.



Mentioned in ''Child of the Storm'', Galactus is a being that devours worlds to feed himself, in order to keep beings far worse than himself sealed away. He finally appears in ''The Phoenix and the Serpent.''

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Mentioned in ''Child of the Storm'', Galactus is a being that devours worlds to feed himself, in order to keep beings far worse than himself sealed away.away and to recycle life energy. He finally appears in ''The Phoenix and the Serpent.''




* AffablyEvil: He's not exactly evil, more an indifferent force of nature that happens to kill a ''lot'' of people, but he's quite polite - even when Harry's threatening him.



* BlueAndOrangeMorality: Apparently, approximating the AboveGoodAndEvil approach - he serves a cosmic purpose, no more, no less. Sunniva still loathes him.
* ConnectedAllAlong: As it turns out, he's an agent of the Phoenix in Her role as Destruction.

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* BlueAndOrangeMorality: Apparently, approximating the AboveGoodAndEvil approach - he serves a cosmic purpose, no more, no less. Sunniva still loathes him.
him on the grounds of his indifference to what he does and which worlds he targets.
* ConnectedAllAlong: As it turns out, he's an agent agent/aspect of the Phoenix in Her role as Destruction.
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** When he tells Harry to call him Joshua, this neatly avoids saying a name Harry recognises - but it ''is'' the most common English translation of his ''actual'' name, Yeshua.

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** When he tells Harry to call him Joshua, this apart from being a [[FriendlyAddressPrivileges friendly]] way of not scaring Harry further with TheReveal by neatly avoids saying avoiding a name Harry recognises - but it this ''is'' the most common English translation of his ''actual'' name, Yeshua.
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* PopCulturedBadass: They enjoy human television, and Huginn quotes ''Film/StarWars'' in the first book.

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* PopCulturedBadass: They enjoy human television, and Huginn quotes ''Film/StarWars'' ''Franchise/StarWars'' in the first book.

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