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->''"I love you!"''
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->''"I love you!"''
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A somewhat pudgy man dressed in a bird suit. He joins your party for reasons similar to Derb Wesley. As he is a raven, or at least dressed as one, he allows you save your game at any time outside of combat. This is helpful, as this is still a VideoGame/LisaThePointless mod, and [[SaveGameLimits all save points are single-use and activate automtically]].
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*UtilityPartyMember: [[AvertedTrope Averted,]] actually! Raven is extremely useful to have for his game-saving abilities, but his base attacks are quite powerful and he has skills that can hit multiple enemies as well as render them [[TheParalyzer Fallen]] and thus, unable to attack.
*UtilityPartyMember: [[AvertedTrope Averted,]] actually! Raven is extremely useful to have for his game-saving abilities, but his base attacks are quite powerful and he has skills that can hit multiple enemies as well as render them [[TheParalyzer Fallen]] and thus, unable to attack.
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** InSpiteOfANail: He ends up [[spoiler: dead]] either way, either getting [[spoiler: stabbed or dying as a result of falling off a cliff]]. Please see [[spoiler: DoomedByCanon]] above for details. Either way, his ultimate fate in the story is to [[spoiler: die]]. It is merely how he gets there that differs in the two games.
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[[caption-width-right:44:Fish as he appears in your party.]]
[[caption-width-right:44:Fish as he appears in your party.]]
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[[folder:Raven Cheekmaster]]
->''"I love you!"''
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[[folder:Raven Cheekmaster]]
->''"I love you!"''
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[[caption-width-right:36:Raven as he appears in your party]]
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[[caption-width-right:101:Tao as he appears as a party member.]]
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[[folder:Fish]]
A Fish you meet by talking a fisherman on Joel Island several times.
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* [[{{Mana}} Mana]]: Averted. He has 0 SP and all of his Skills cost 0 MP to use.
* WhiteMage: Most of his skills inflict status effects on the enemy or heal party members. Furthermore, his attack, Flop, does not do very much damage at all and it cannot target a particular enemy in combat, instead just randomly hitting one of them, assuming that the player is facing off against more than one enemy combatant.
A Fish you meet by talking a fisherman on Joel Island several times.
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* [[{{Mana}} Mana]]: Averted. He has 0 SP and all of his Skills cost 0 MP to use.
* WhiteMage: Most of his skills inflict status effects on the enemy or heal party members. Furthermore, his attack, Flop, does not do very much damage at all and it cannot target a particular enemy in combat, instead just randomly hitting one of them, assuming that the player is facing off against more than one enemy combatant.
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* [[{{Mana}} Mana]]: Averted.
* WhiteMage: Most of his skills inflict status effects on the enemy or heal
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A man in Downtown Olathe who joins you due to his loneliness.
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* HiddenDepths: He [[spoiler: turns into a joy mutant]] at the end of the Joel Island segment. In order for this to happen, he must have [[spoiler: been addicted to joy]]. This implies that he must have been unhappy enough to want to [[spoiler: feel nothing.]] He shows no real signs of angst during the events of the game, [[spoiler: so he must have had [[AddledAddict more going on than was immediately apparent]].]]
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[[folder:Fish]]
A Fish you meet by talking a fisherman on Joel Island several times.
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* [[{{Mana}} Mana]]: Averted. He has 0 SP and all of his Skills cost 0 MP to use.
* WhiteMage: Most of his skills inflict status effects on the enemy or heal party members. Furthermore, his attack, Flop, does not do very much damage at all and it cannot target a particular enemy in combat, instead just randomly hitting one of them, assuming that the player is facing off against more than one enemy combatant.
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[[folder:Derb Wesley]]
A man in Downtown Olathe who joins you due to his loneliness.
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[[folder:Fish]]
A Fish you meet by talking a fisherman on Joel Island several times.
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* [[{{Mana}} Mana]]: Averted. He has 0 SP and all of his Skills cost 0 MP to use.
* WhiteMage: Most of his skills inflict status effects on the enemy or heal party members. Furthermore, his attack, Flop, does not do very much damage at all and it cannot target a particular enemy in combat, instead just randomly hitting one of them, assuming that the player is facing off against more than one enemy combatant.
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[[folder:Derb Wesley]]
A man in Downtown Olathe who joins you due to his loneliness.
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* [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Mana Mana]]: Averted. He has 0 SP and all of his Skills cost 0 MP to use.
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* [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Mana [[{{Mana}} Mana]]: Averted. He has 0 SP and all of his Skills cost 0 MP to use.
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* AdaptationalBadass: Alex, by virtue of being a Brad Disciple, uses the Armstrong fighting style, which is superior to his original Velvet Fu.
* AdaptationalJerkass: Alex is much less kind than in The Pointless. Indeed, one of the three people just outside the starting house calls him rude for referring to Joel Island as "garbage." Alex, naturally, responds with an expletive and [[DisproportionateRetribution murdering the man]].
* AdaptationalJerkass: Alex is much less kind than in The Pointless. Indeed, one of the three people just outside the starting house calls him rude for referring to Joel Island as "garbage." Alex, naturally, responds with an expletive and [[DisproportionateRetribution murdering the man]].
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* OmnicidalManiac: For most of the game, Alex's only apparent motivation is to kill everyone, rather than his original motivation to find a place better than Garbage Island or Downtown Olathe. This is true to the point that his querrel with Arnold is that Arnold is killing everyone, which Alex wishes to do, and his querrel with Rando is that he "stole his kill." Probably most of all, when Alex reaches the First Fold of Infinity, nothing happens and the attitude of the franchise is no different from his, except, perhaps, that it is [[EvilerThanThou too corporate, mild, and calm.]] It is worth noting, however, that, though Alex kills many of the characters he speaks to, he does leave a considerable other portion alive.
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* OmnicidalManiac: For most of the game, Alex's only apparent motivation is to kill everyone, rather than his original motivation to find a place better than Garbage Joel Island or Downtown Olathe. This is true to the point that his querrel with Arnold is that Arnold is killing everyone, which Alex wishes to do, and his querrel with Rando is that he "stole his kill." Probably most of all, when Alex reaches the First Fold of Infinity, nothing happens and the attitude of the franchise is no different from his, except, perhaps, that it is [[EvilerThanThou too corporate, mild, and calm.]] It is worth noting, however, that, though Alex kills many of the characters he speaks to, he does leave a considerable other portion alive.
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* [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Mana Mana]]: Averted. He has 0 SP and all of his Skills cost 0 MP to use.
* WhiteMage: Most of his skills inflict status effects on the enemy or heal party members. Furthermore, his attack, Flop, does not do very much damage at all and it cannot target a particular enemy in combat, instead just randomly hitting one of them, assuming that the player is facing off against more than one enemy combatant.
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[[folder:Derb Wesley]]
A man in Downtown Olathe who joins you due to his loneliness.
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* WhiteMage: Most of his skills inflict status effects on the enemy or heal party members. Furthermore, his attack, Flop, does not do very much damage at all and it cannot target a particular enemy in combat, instead just randomly hitting one of them, assuming that the player is facing off against more than one enemy combatant.
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A man in Downtown Olathe who joins you due to his loneliness.
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* OmnicidalManiac: For most of the game, Alex's only apparent motivation is to kill everyone, rather than his original motivation to find a place better than Garbage Island or Downtown Olathe. This is true to the point that his querrel with Arnold is that Arnold is killing everyone, which Alex wishes to do, and his querrel with Rando is that he "stole his kill." Probably most of all, when Alex reaches the First Fold of Infinity, nothing happens and the attitude of the franchise is no different from his, except, perhaps, that it is [[EvilerThanThou too corporate, mild, and calm.]]
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* OmnicidalManiac: For most of the game, Alex's only apparent motivation is to kill everyone, rather than his original motivation to find a place better than Garbage Island or Downtown Olathe. This is true to the point that his querrel with Arnold is that Arnold is killing everyone, which Alex wishes to do, and his querrel with Rando is that he "stole his kill." Probably most of all, when Alex reaches the First Fold of Infinity, nothing happens and the attitude of the franchise is no different from his, except, perhaps, that it is [[EvilerThanThou too corporate, mild, and calm.]] It is worth noting, however, that, though Alex kills many of the characters he speaks to, he does leave a considerable other portion alive.
* SirSwearsALot: See his [[CharacterCatchphrase catchphrases]] above or his quote.
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* DamageOverTime: One of his attacks, Scratch, can inflict the Bleed status effect.
* [[spoiler: DoomedByCanon]]: Derb's time with you ''will'' end with [[spoiler: his death]]. He either leaves your party upon the start of [[spoiler: a fight with Senyor Keister, Alejandro Babbage, and Jessie Mack if you encounter them from the front - seemingly due to [[InstantDeathStab being stabbed]] - or he will die in the [[NotTheFallThatKillsYou fall]] after the battle with Rando.]]
* FantasticFightingStyle: Derb is not a martial artist. He fights by spanking his enemies, crying, scratching, and groping. It is much more effective than it sounds.
* IJustWantToHaveFriends: His stated motivation for joining your group.
* DamageOverTime: One of his attacks, Scratch, can inflict the Bleed status effect.
* [[spoiler: DoomedByCanon]]: Derb's time with you ''will'' end with [[spoiler: his death]]. He either leaves your party upon the start of [[spoiler: a fight with Senyor Keister, Alejandro Babbage, and Jessie Mack if you encounter them from the front - seemingly due to [[InstantDeathStab being stabbed]] - or he will die in the [[NotTheFallThatKillsYou fall]] after the battle with Rando.]]
* FantasticFightingStyle: Derb is not a martial artist. He fights by spanking his enemies, crying, scratching, and groping. It is much more effective than it sounds.
* IJustWantToHaveFriends: His stated motivation for joining your group.
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* CharacterCatchphrase: "Fuck you." He also calls people "whore" quite often. It's not necessarily a gendered insult, either. It would be [[Gendercide rather difficult for it to be in Olathe]] , but he can be seen calling Chie one in a pre-Flash scene, and he uses the word on Arnold just before the end of the Downtown Olathe section of the game.
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* CharacterCatchphrase: "Fuck you." He also calls people "whore" quite often. It's not necessarily a gendered insult, either. It would be [[Gendercide rather difficult for it to be in Olathe]] , Olathe, but he can be seen calling Chie one in a pre-Flash scene, and he uses the word on Arnold just before the end of the Downtown Olathe section of the game.
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*CharacterCatchphrase: "Fuck you." He also calls people "whore" quite often. It's not necessarily a gendered insult, either. It would be [[Gendercide rather difficult for it to be in Olathe]] , but he can be seen calling Chie one in a pre-Flash scene, and he uses the word on Arnold just before the end of the Downtown Olathe section of the game.
** Of note, saying "fuck you" to basically everyone seems to be a thing among Brad Disciples, as evidenced by Alex's conversation with a boy who is not a Brad Disciple but who does admire them. Chie also explicitly states this during her pre-Flash discussion with Alex.
*MadeOfIron: There is a point in the game where a car may strike Alex. If it does, he survives relatively unscathed, but the car bursts into flames and everyone inside is killed.
*OmnicidalManiac: For most of the game, Alex's only apparent motivation is to kill everyone, rather than his original motivation to find a place better than Garbage Island or Downtown Olathe. This is true to the point that his querrel with Arnold is that Arnold is killing everyone, which Alex wishes to do, and his querrel with Rando is that he "stole his kill." Probably most of all, when Alex reaches the First Fold of Infinity, nothing happens and the attitude of the franchise is no different from his, except, perhaps, that it is [[EvilerThanThou too corporate, mild, and calm.]]
*TheProtagonist
TheProtagonist: Probably in the [[NominalHero Nominal Hero]] category or another category of non-heroic protagonist.
*UsedToBeASweetKid: Him being verbally cruel and his [[CharacterCatchphrase catchphrases]] don't seem to come naturally to him. He is much kinder in his flashback scenes. The cruelty is explicitly described as a part of the Armstrong style. He smiles at Chie Teal in the tournament, rather than immediately call her a "whore" or say "fuck you," though the player is given the option to do the former. As a school boy, he does not assault Vincent Lo, unlike in the original game.
** Of note, saying "fuck you" to basically everyone seems to be a thing among Brad Disciples, as evidenced by Alex's conversation with a boy who is not a Brad Disciple but who does admire them. Chie also explicitly states this during her pre-Flash discussion with Alex.
*MadeOfIron: There is a point in the game where a car may strike Alex. If it does, he survives relatively unscathed, but the car bursts into flames and everyone inside is killed.
*OmnicidalManiac: For most of the game, Alex's only apparent motivation is to kill everyone, rather than his original motivation to find a place better than Garbage Island or Downtown Olathe. This is true to the point that his querrel with Arnold is that Arnold is killing everyone, which Alex wishes to do, and his querrel with Rando is that he "stole his kill." Probably most of all, when Alex reaches the First Fold of Infinity, nothing happens and the attitude of the franchise is no different from his, except, perhaps, that it is [[EvilerThanThou too corporate, mild, and calm.]]
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*UsedToBeASweetKid: Him being verbally cruel and his [[CharacterCatchphrase catchphrases]] don't seem to come naturally to him. He is much kinder in his flashback scenes. The cruelty is explicitly described as a part of the Armstrong style. He smiles at Chie Teal in the tournament, rather than immediately call her a "whore" or say "fuck you," though the player is given the option to do the former. As a school boy, he does not assault Vincent Lo, unlike in the original game.
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* GenericGuy: Tao, Georgy, and Derb are all relatively normal, if a little greedy in the case of Georgy and a little lonely and desirous of companionship in the case of Derb.
* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: Included in this group are A Disciple of Brad, a fish, and a pantsless man dressed like a bird.
* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: Included in this group are A Disciple of Brad, a fish, and a pantsless man dressed like a bird.
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* GenericGuy: Tao, Georgy, and Derb are all relatively normal, if a little greedy in the case of Georgy and a little lonely and desirous of companionship in the case of Derb.
* GenericGuy: Tao, Georgy, and Derb are all relatively normal, if a little greedy in the case of Georgy and a little lonely and desirous of companionship in the case of Derb.
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->''"Fuck you."''
The protagonist of "Alex Has a Point." Here, he is a skilled martial artist, a Disciple of Brad, a man of few words, and, generally speaking, a bit of an ass.
->''"Fuck you."''
The protagonist of "Alex Has a Point." Here, he is a skilled martial artist, a Disciple of Brad, a man of few words, and, generally speaking, a bit of an ass.
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->''"Fuck you."''
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->''"Fuck you."''
The protagonist of "Alex Has a Point." Here, he is a skilled martial artist, a Disciple of Brad, a man of few words, and, generally speaking, a bit of an ass.
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[[folder:Alex]]
->''"Fuck you."''
The protagonist of "Alex Has a Point." Here, he is a skilled martial artist, a Disciple of Brad, a man of few words, and, generally speaking, a bit of an ass.
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[[folder:Derb Wesley]]
A man in Downtown Olathe who joins you due to his loneliness.
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[[folder:Alex]]
->''"Fuck you."''
The protagonist of "Alex Has a Point." Here, he is a skilled martial artist, a Disciple of Brad, a man of few words, and, generally speaking, a bit of an ass.
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* TheProtagonist
[[/folder]]
[[folder:Derb Wesley]]
A man in Downtown Olathe who joins you due to his loneliness.
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