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[[Characters/AdventureTimeMain Main Characters]] ([[Characters/AdventureTimeFinn Finn]] | [[Characters/AdventureTimePrincessBubblegum Princess Bubblegum]] | '''Ice King''') | [[Characters/AdventureTimeAntagonistsAndEnemies Antagonists and Enemies]] ([[Characters/AdventureTimeTheLich The Lich]]) | [[Characters/AdventureTimeLandOfOoo Land of Ooo]] ([[Characters/AdventureTimeCandyKingdom The Candy Kingdom]] | [[Characters/AdventureTimeKingdomsOfOoo Other Kingdoms]]) | [[Characters/AdventureTimeOtherCharacters Other Characters]] | [[Characters/AdventureTimeMultiverse Multiverse Characters]]-]]]]]

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[[Characters/AdventureTimeMain Main Characters]] ([[Characters/AdventureTimeFinn Finn]] | [[Characters/AdventureTimePrincessBubblegum Princess Bubblegum]] | '''Ice ('''Ice King''') | [[Characters/AdventureTimeAntagonistsAndEnemies Antagonists and Enemies]] ([[Characters/AdventureTimeTheLich The Lich]]) | [[Characters/AdventureTimeLandOfOoo Land of Ooo]] ([[Characters/AdventureTimeCandyKingdom The Candy Kingdom]] | [[Characters/AdventureTimeKingdomsOfOoo Other Kingdoms]]) | [[Characters/AdventureTimeOtherCharacters Other Characters]] | [[Characters/AdventureTimeMultiverse Multiverse Characters]]-]]]]]
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* WalkingSpoiler: He's Ice King's real form, so it's impossible to say anything about him without mentioning that.
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* OlderThanHeLooks: Simon is in his 30s-40s when he first put on the crown and will remain that age even after being freed from the crown's influence forever. ''Fionna and Cake'' shows that has resumed aging normally since removing the crown, but still looks ''considerably'' younger than his real age.

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* OlderThanHeLooks: Simon is in his 30s-40s when he first put on the crown and will remain that age even after being freed from the crown's influence forever. ''Fionna and Cake'' shows that has resumed aging normally since removing the crown, thus is physically around 60, but still looks ''considerably'' younger than his real age.age of 1058.

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[[caption-width-right:250:[[labelnote:Click here to see Simon in ''Adventure Time: Fionna and Cake''.]]\\
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* NoImmortalInertia: As revealed in "Betty". When the Ice Crown is depowered, Simon is revealed to be dying because, as he puts it, "I'm old." However, when he finally is freed from the crown's influence for good, he's shown to be stuck at the age that he first put on the crown at, meaning this is averted.

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* NoImmortalInertia: As revealed in "Betty". When the Ice Crown is depowered, Simon is revealed to be dying because, as he puts it, "I'm old." However, when he finally is freed from the crown's influence for good, he's shown to be stuck at biologically reverted back to the age that he first put on the crown at, meaning this is averted.averted. He begins aging normally again afterwards.

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1.) Character has trauma. 2.) Character reaction. 3.) Plot happens.


* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome:
** At the end of the original show, Simon is shown to be happy after having been reverted to his original self and being with people he cares about. However, ''Fionna and Cake'' reveals that Simon is still deeply depressed [[TraumaCongaLine after all he went through]], and can't relate to anyone as the only regular person left.
** Upon meeting [=GOLBetty=] again, Simon realizes his willingness to become Ice King again was because he felt his own life didn’t matter, and comes to the conclusion that he is just as worthy of living as anyone else. However, he later fears that he'll forget this lesson, so he begins attending therapy in an effort to avoid backsliding.
** ''Fiona and Cake'' also shows how easy it is to slide into an unwittingly toxic AllTakeAndNoGive relationship when the other party isn't assertive enough to insist their partner do things for their own sake rather than sacrifice their own happiness for the sake of the one that they're in a relationship with.



* TraumaCongaLine: His backstory is one long list of tragedies. He was an antiquarian who was ridiculed by the scientific community for believing in the existence of Magic artifacts until he bonds and later falls in love with Betty, the only person who did look up to him and helped him find the Enchiridion, ends up going berserk from putting on a crown he didn't know was cursed, driving the woman he loved away (she actually went to the future), and having to raise a little girl in fear of losing his mind before giving her away to protect her all while the end of the world is happening around him. It's a wonder he was able to stay sane as long as he did, much less against a crown making him crazy. His list of traumas increases in the ''Fionna and Cake'' miniseries, as watching Betty sacrifice herself for him and feeling unable to fit into Ooo has left him so depressed that he's perfectly willing to become Ice King again just to forget all the pain he has been through.

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* TraumaCongaLine: His backstory is one long list of tragedies. He was is an antiquarian who was ridiculed by the scientific community for believing in the existence of Magic artifacts until he bonds and later falls in love with Betty, the only person who did look up to him and helped him find the Enchiridion, ends up going berserk from putting on a crown he didn't know was cursed, driving the woman he loved away (she actually went to the future), and having to raise a little girl in fear of losing his mind before giving her away to protect her all while the end of the world is happening around him. It's a wonder he was able to stay sane as long as he did, much less against a crown making him crazy. His list of traumas increases in the ''Fionna and Cake'' miniseries, as watching Betty sacrifice herself for him and feeling unable to fit into Ooo has left him so depressed that he's perfectly willing to become Ice King again just to forget all the pain he has been through.
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He is shown to have aged quite noticeably in the Fionna and cake spinoff that takes place 12 years after the finale


* ImmortalityBeginsAtTwenty: [[spoiler:A variation; the crown artificially aged Simon rapidly, but thereafter he doesn't seem to have changed much over the course of the hundreds of years he's been alive. When he's freed from being the Ice King forever, he remains at the age he first put the crown on.]]
* ImmortalityInducer: The crown has kept him alive for a ''very'' long time. Unfortunately, [[spoiler:it's also driven him insane and NoImmortalInertia is in effect. Eventually, he keeps the immortality bit, at least in terms of not aging at all, as shown by his appearance keeping the same despite at least a decade or two passing.]]

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* ImmortalityBeginsAtTwenty: [[spoiler:A variation; the crown artificially aged Simon rapidly, but thereafter he doesn't seem to have changed much over the course of the hundreds of years he's been alive. When he's freed from being the Ice King forever, he remains at reverts back to the age he first put the crown on.]]
* ImmortalityInducer: The crown has kept him alive for a ''very'' long time. Unfortunately, [[spoiler:it's also driven him insane and NoImmortalInertia is in effect. Eventually, he keeps the immortality bit, at least in terms of not aging at all, as shown by his appearance keeping the same despite at least a decade or two passing.]]
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the farmworld and fiona and cake confirms that ice king can be killed


* TheAgeless: He is immortal in terms of aging, though whether he can be killed is still unclear.

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* TheAgeless: He is immortal in terms of aging, though whether he can be killed is still unclear.despite his appearance as an old man it does not actually reflect him getting older as it's merely a reflection of what the original Wishing Crown's wish was.

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* TheAgeless: He is immortal in terms of aging, though whether he can be killed is still unclear.



%%* ClassicalAntiHero: A ChaoticStupid example.



* ElderlyImmortal: He is immortal in terms of aging, though whether he can be killed is still unclear.
** When he's briefly reverted back to Simon in "Betty", Death shows up to taunt him that he'll be the Ice King "'Til the sun blows up". So it seems likely that he is immortal for any reasonable definition of the term.
** His elderly appearance is also a side effect of the crown, as the crown slowly turns its wearer into Evergreen clones; If he completes his transformation at the same time Marceline is turned into a vampire, Simon's biological age would have stayed at 57. As ''Distant Lands'' shows, he retains his youth however, he is no older than when he first put on the crown.
*** In Fionna & Cake, however, he has clearly aged, so he is not immortal after being reverted back to Simon.

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* ElderlyImmortal: He is immortal in terms of aging, though whether He's over a thousand years old, although he can be killed is still unclear.
** When he's briefly reverted back to Simon in "Betty", Death shows up to taunt him
looked much younger when he found the crown that he'll be the Ice King "'Til the sun blows up". So it seems likely that he is immortal for any reasonable definition of the term.
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gave him his immortality. His elderly appearance is also a side effect of the crown, as the crown slowly turns its wearer into Evergreen clones; If he completes his transformation at the same time Marceline is turned into a vampire, Simon's biological age would have stayed at 57. As ''Distant Lands'' shows, he retains his youth however, he is no older than when he first put on the crown.
*** In Fionna & Cake, however, he has clearly aged, so he is not immortal after being reverted back to Simon.
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%%* EnemySummoner: As seen in "Prisoners of Love".



* FaceDeathWithDignity: All three times he believes he's about to die, Simon just accepts it calmly and with grace- But each time he survives due to one circumstance or the other.

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* FaceDeathWithDignity: All three times he believes he's about to die, Simon just accepts it calmly and with grace- But grace, but each time he survives due to one circumstance or the other.



* MortalityEnsues: Losing the Ice Crown results in him losing his immortality as well. In ''Fionna & Cake'', taking place several years after the original series finale, he has clearly aged after being reverted back to Simon.



* NiceGuy: As Simon, he is a kind soft-spoken man, who loved his fiancée deeply and took good care of Marceline when she was a little girl. In general, he's pretty kind to everyone, and willing to own up to any mistakes he makes.

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* NiceGuy: As Simon, he Simon is a kind soft-spoken man, who loved his fiancée deeply and took good care of Marceline when she was a little girl. In general, he's pretty kind to everyone, and willing to own up to any mistakes he makes.

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* FanDisservice: The writers seem to try to slip in as many upskirt shots of the Ice King as possible. You better get used to the sight of that shriveled blue body and dirty toilet-paper-looking underwear.

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* FanDisservice: The writers seem to try to slip in as many upskirt shots of the Ice King as possible. You better get used to the sight of that shriveled blue body and dirty toilet-paper-looking underwear. He's also shown to have a big butt, but at the same time it's attached to a creepy and wrinkly old man.


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* MoodSwinger: Another part of what makes the Ice King so dangerous is that he is liable to dramatically and drastically change moods in the drop of a hat, one moment he could be polite and happy and the next he could be horribly sad or violently angry.
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*** In Fionna & Cake, however, he has clearly aged, so he is not immortal after being reverted back to Simon.
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* AggressiveSubmissive: Implied trope. While Simon does not make any comments about it, the fact that it's only Ice King that displays huge amounts of submissiveness to others (especially to Princess Bubblegum), heavily hints that this is an aspect of his personality now unfiltered. The closest we get to this from Simon directly is in ''Fiona and Cake'' where he runs to meet up with Betty to convince her to come with him, but then it is only shown that Betty makes a lot of decisions for them both, where as he simply accepts things are they come.

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* AggressiveSubmissive: Implied trope. While Simon does not make any comments about it, the fact that it's only Ice King that displays huge amounts of submissiveness to others (especially to Princess Bubblegum), heavily hints that this is an aspect of his personality now unfiltered. The closest we get to this from Simon directly is in ''Fiona and Cake'' where he runs to meet up with Betty to convince her to come with him, but then it is only shown that Betty makes a lot of decisions for them both, where as he simply accepts things are as they come.



** Considering the DeathOfPersonality that the crown inflicts, it can also be likened to someone being so depressed that they become suicidal. With Simon willing to erase his own mind in part due to his sorrow.

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** Considering the DeathOfPersonality that the crown inflicts, it can also be likened to someone being so depressed that they become suicidal. With suicidal, with Simon willing to erase his own mind in part due to his sorrow.



** In the (non-canon) ''Marcy and Simon'' comic, he gets Betty back thanks to Hunson inadvertently using his soul-sucking powers to separate Betty from GOLB and managing to knock it out and leave it stuck in the dimension Betty took it to. Finally allowing the two lovers to be reunited.

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** In the (non-canon) ''Marcy and Simon'' comic, he gets Betty back thanks to Hunson inadvertently using his soul-sucking powers to separate Betty from GOLB and managing to knock it out and leave it stuck in the dimension Betty took it to. Finally allowing This finally allows the two lovers to be reunited.
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** ''Fiona and Cake'' also shows how easy it is to slide into an AllTakeAndNoGive relationship when the other party isn't assertive enough to insist their partner do things for their own sake rather than sacrifice their own happiness for the sake of the one that they're in a relationship with.

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** ''Fiona and Cake'' also shows how easy it is to slide into an unwittingly toxic AllTakeAndNoGive relationship when the other party isn't assertive enough to insist their partner do things for their own sake rather than sacrifice their own happiness for the sake of the one that they're in a relationship with.
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* VillainsWantHeroes: The Empress states she used to see the appeal of Simon before he fully became the Ice King, stating he was a SilverFox and that he was happier as her slave. The details of the situation are never elaborated on.

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* VillainsWantHeroes: VillainessesWantHeroes: The Empress states she used to see the appeal of Simon before he fully became the Ice King, stating he was a SilverFox and that he was happier as her slave. The details of the situation are never elaborated on.

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* NiceGuy: [[spoiler:As Simon, he is a kind soft-spoken man, who loved his fiancée deeply and took good care of Marceline when she was a little girl.]]



* NoodleIncident:
** He's mentioned to have at least met the Empress at some point in the past, but this is never elaborated on or touched upon.
** Similarly, how he was able to summon Hunson and able get him to Simon's request without sucking out his soul is only mentioned once and not expanded on.



* NoodleIncident: The Empress states that she used to

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* NoodleIncident: The NiceGuy: As Simon, he is a kind soft-spoken man, who loved his fiancée deeply and took good care of Marceline when she was a little girl. In general, he's pretty kind to everyone, and willing to own up to any mistakes he makes.
* NoodleIncident:
** He's mentioned to have at least met the
Empress states that she used at some point in the past, but this is never elaborated on or touched upon.
** Similarly, how he was able
to summon Hunson and able get him to Simon's request without sucking out his soul is only mentioned once and not expanded on.
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* AggressiveSubmissive: Ice King is kidnapping princesses, attempting to make moves on them, and even forcing them to marry him, but at the same time, it is shown that he very much enjoys it when the princesses happen to demand things of him, or even beat him up and humiliate him, shown most prominently in his interactions with the Empress and Princess Bubblegum. He even confesses to enjoy being tied up in cords, much to the dismay of [[NoJustNoReaction Marceline.]]


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* InformedAttribute: PlayedForLaughs. Ice King frequently claims he has muscles, pecs and abs and all, but he's scrawny and skinny underneath his robes, it's just another sign of his delusions.


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* AggressiveSubmissive: Implied trope. While Simon does not make any comments about it, the fact that it's only Ice King that displays huge amounts of submissiveness to others (especially to Princess Bubblegum), heavily hints that this is an aspect of his personality now unfiltered. The closest we get to this from Simon directly is in ''Fiona and Cake'' where he runs to meet up with Betty to convince her to come with him, but then it is only shown that Betty makes a lot of decisions for them both, where as he simply accepts things are they come.


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* FaceDeathWithDignity: All three times he believes he's about to die, Simon just accepts it calmly and with grace- But each time he survives due to one circumstance or the other.


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* NoodleIncident: The Empress states that she used to


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* {{Retcon}}: When he firsts appears in his video detailing his experiences with the crown, Simon specifically says he was ''not'' a believer in magical artifacts until he put on the Wishing Crown for the first time as a joke, but later details of his life show that he was ridiculed due to his belief in them.


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** ''Fiona and Cake'' also shows how easy it is to slide into an AllTakeAndNoGive relationship when the other party isn't assertive enough to insist their partner do things for their own sake rather than sacrifice their own happiness for the sake of the one that they're in a relationship with.


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* VillainsWantHeroes: The Empress states she used to see the appeal of Simon before he fully became the Ice King, stating he was a SilverFox and that he was happier as her slave. The details of the situation are never elaborated on.
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* BackstoryHorror: A surprisingly sinister revelation in the last few minutes of the lighthearted "Holly Jolly Secrets" simultaneously plays for drama the LaughablyEvil and {{Cloudcuckoolander}} tropes he so happily personified. [[spoiler:The transformation of a perfectly normal human being into a deranged cartoon character was chilling, to say the least. Later episodes show that the process was slow and painful, driving away his fiancée Betty and a young Marceline through sheer insanity.]]

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* BackstoryHorror: A surprisingly sinister revelation in the last few minutes of the lighthearted "Holly Jolly Secrets" simultaneously plays for drama the LaughablyEvil and {{Cloudcuckoolander}} tropes he so happily personified. [[spoiler:The transformation of a perfectly normal human being into a deranged cartoon character was chilling, to say the least. Later episodes show that the process was slow and painful, supposedly driving away his fiancée Betty and leaving a young Marceline out of fear he will hurt her through sheer insanity.]]
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** Upon meeting [=GOLBetty=] again, Simon realizes his willingness to become Ice King again was because he felt his own life didn’t matter, and comes to the conclusion that he is just as worthy of living as anyone else. However, he later fears that he'll forget this lesson, so he begins attending therapy in an effort to backtracking.

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** Upon meeting [=GOLBetty=] again, Simon realizes his willingness to become Ice King again was because he felt his own life didn’t matter, and comes to the conclusion that he is just as worthy of living as anyone else. However, he later fears that he'll forget this lesson, so he begins attending therapy in an effort to backtracking.avoid backsliding.

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