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* Chihiro being a boy (and the fact that he'd either be the victim or the culprit of Chapter 2) is unfortunately rather telegraphed by the fact that Chihiro shows extreme reluctance to hang out with the girls in the locker room to exercise... ''immediately'' after Monokuma made a huge, this-will-be-relevant-to-the-case deal out of the gender-based restrictions on locker room access. It's even more predictable in the Japanese version, where his voice files are [[LarynxDissonance obviously being done by a man]].
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* Chihiro being a boy (and the fact that he'd either be the victim or the culprit of Chapter 2) is unfortunately rather telegraphed by the fact that Chihiro shows extreme reluctance to hang out with the girls in the locker room to exercise... ''immediately'' after Monokuma made a huge, this-will-be-relevant-to-the-case deal out of the gender-based restrictions on locker room access. Furthermore, platonic opposite-sex friendships are uncommon in Japan, hence why Aoi finds it odd that Chihiro preferred to hang out with male classmates. It's even more predictable in the Japanese version, where his voice files are [[LarynxDissonance obviously being done by a man]].
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* The reveal that Kyoko's ultimate talent is Detective. No shit? She spends every single case ruthlessly investigating, everyone is amazed by how professional she is when inspecting bodies, she's constantly talking about proper investigative procedure, and the first thing she does during the Chapter 1 investigation is to ''search the crime scene, Makoto's bedroom, for stray strands of hair''.
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* The reveal that Kyoko's ultimate talent is Detective. No shit? She spends every single case ruthlessly investigating, everyone is amazed by how professional she is when inspecting bodies, she's constantly talking about proper investigative procedure, and the first thing she does during the Chapter 1 investigation is to ''search the crime scene, Makoto's bedroom, for stray strands of hair''. In the dub of the anime, Makoto remarks that it "seems obvious," in hindsight, and remarks to Kyoko that "Anyone who spends more than 10 minutes in you can see you've got sleuthing in your blood"- at the very least, he isn't nearly as surprised by this as by the headmaster being Kyoko's father.
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* Monaca being the actual leader of the Warriors of Hope, pulling their strings behind the scenes, is obvious from the group's first appearance.
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* Monaca being the actual leader of the Warriors of Hope, pulling their strings behind the scenes, rather than Masaru(the boss of the first chapter, who seemingly dies after his defeat) is obvious from the group's first appearance.
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** There are no plausible other options: Makoto is the [=POV=] character, Toko can't stand blood and Genocide Jack already explained why she won't kill anyone in the previous trial (and confirmed that she wouldn't use hammers even if she ''did'' kill someone; she's got scissors for that), Sakura is strong enough that she wouldn't need to use the hammers (and is too straightforward for such a [[ComplexityAddiction convoluted plot]]), Aoi isn't the type for cold-blooded murder, Yasuhiro is too dumb to pull such a plan off, Byakuya and Kyoko wouldn't go on a cosplay murder rampage ''or'' fake a cosplay murder rampage (they're too smart to try something so clearly AwesomeButImpractical), and Ishimaru and Hifumi both show up dead so there has to be another killer. The process of elimination leaves only Celestia as the potential mastermind.
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** There are no plausible other options: Makoto is the [=POV=] character, Toko can't stand blood and Genocide Jack already explained why she won't kill anyone in the previous trial (and confirmed that she wouldn't use hammers even if she ''did'' kill someone; she's got scissors for that), Sakura is strong enough that she wouldn't need to use the hammers (and is too straightforward for such a [[ComplexityAddiction convoluted plot]]), plot]]; if Sakura were to kill someone, they'd be found at the bottom of some stairs with a broken neck), Aoi isn't the type for cold-blooded murder, Yasuhiro is too dumb to pull such a plan off, Byakuya and Kyoko wouldn't go on a cosplay murder rampage ''or'' fake a cosplay murder rampage (they're too smart to try something so clearly AwesomeButImpractical), and Ishimaru and Hifumi both show up dead so there has to be another killer. The process of elimination leaves only Celestia as the potential mastermind.
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** There are no plausible other options: Makoto is the [=POV=] character, Toko can't stand blood and Genocide Jack already explained why she won't kill anyone in the previous trial (and confirmed that she wouldn't use hammers even if she ''did'' kill someone; she's got scissors for that), Sakura is strong enough that she wouldn't need to use the hammers (and is too straightforward for such a [[ComplexityAddiction convoluted plot]]), Aoi isn't the type for cold-blooded murder, Yasuhiro is too dumb to pull such a plan off, Byakuya and Kyoko wouldn't go on a cosplay murder rampage ''or'' fake a cosplay murder rampage (they're too smart to try something so clearly AwesomeButImpractical), and Ishimaru and Hifumi both show up dead so there has to be another killer.
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** There are no plausible other options: Makoto is the [=POV=] character, Toko can't stand blood and Genocide Jack already explained why she won't kill anyone in the previous trial (and confirmed that she wouldn't use hammers even if she ''did'' kill someone; she's got scissors for that), Sakura is strong enough that she wouldn't need to use the hammers (and is too straightforward for such a [[ComplexityAddiction convoluted plot]]), Aoi isn't the type for cold-blooded murder, Yasuhiro is too dumb to pull such a plan off, Byakuya and Kyoko wouldn't go on a cosplay murder rampage ''or'' fake a cosplay murder rampage (they're too smart to try something so clearly AwesomeButImpractical), and Ishimaru and Hifumi both show up dead so there has to be another killer. The process of elimination leaves only Celestia as the potential mastermind.
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** There are no plausible other options: Makoto is the [=POV=] character, Toko can't stand blood and Genocide Jack already explained why she won't kill anyone in the previous trial (and confirmed that she wouldn't use hammers even if she ''did'' kill someone; she's got scissors for that), Sakura is strong enough that she wouldn't need to use the hammers (and is too straightforward for such a [[ComplexityAddiction convoluted plot]]), Aoi isn't the type for cold-blooded murder, Yasuhiro is too dumb to pull such a plan off, Byakuya and Kyoko wouldn't go on a cosplay murder rampage ''or'' fake a cosplay murder rampage (they're too smart to try something so clearly AwesomeButImpractical), and Ishimaru and Hifumi both show up dead so there has to be another killer.
** Hifumi is also clearly the one behind the Justice Robo costume; he's the only one who mentions the 'Justic Robo' show beforehand, and who ''other'' than the card-carrying fanboy would make a ''cosplay'' disguise?
** Hifumi is also clearly the one behind the Justice Robo costume; he's the only one who mentions the 'Justic Robo' show beforehand, and who ''other'' than the card-carrying fanboy would make a ''cosplay'' disguise?
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* Maki lying about her own talent can be this, since she's a self-admitted ChildHater, and forbids anybody from entering her own lab. She isn't the first student who's talented at something they don't enjoy (Leon comes to mind), but her unusually secretive behavior makes her come across as suspicious.
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* Nekomaru Nidai being the victim in Chapter 4 as there are several obvious clues to it. From the chapter's title, him being the protagonist's assistant during investigations of this chapter (which might remind you of Sayaka), to him explaining his functions of his new robotic body, including his sleep mode, which clearly will come in handy as clues for an upcoming murder. On a meta level, him getting to skip a Class Trial in the previous chapter (although he'd still be executed for the wrong answer) means it's rather unfair to those who participated in all of them, meaning he likely wouldn't get to be a survivor.
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* Nekomaru Nidai being the victim in Chapter 4 as there are several obvious clues to it. From the chapter's title, him being the protagonist's assistant during investigations of this chapter (which might remind you of Sayaka), to him explaining his functions of his new robotic body, including his sleep mode, which clearly will come in handy as clues for an upcoming murder. On a meta level, him getting to skip a Class Trial in the previous chapter (although he'd still be executed for the wrong answer) means it's rather unfair to those who participated in all of them, meaning he likely wouldn't get to be a survivor.
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* Monaca being the actual leader of the Warriors of Hope, pulling their strings behind the scenes, is obvious from the group's first appearance.
* Quite a lot of fans managed to immediately figure out that Monaca is merely pretending to be handicapped the moment it was revealed her room can only be accessed via a ladder.
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* Monaca being the actual leader of the Warriors of Hope, pulling their strings behind the scenes, is obvious from the group's first appearance.
* Quite a lot of fans managed to immediately figure out that Monaca is merely pretending to be handicapped the moment it was revealed her room can only be accessed via a ladder.
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** She says she begged for her life when the "madman" attacked her- something ''extremely'' out of character for Celeste.
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** She consistently pushes the "Hagakure is the culprit" story long after holes have been poked in it. She ''immediately'' starts up a Bullet Time Battle after Makoto states that Yasuhiro might be innocent -- which before this was reserved for final battles against the culprit (well, Kiyotaka stands in for Mondo, but he's clearly emotionally compromised by the idea that his OnlyFriend might be a killer) after you've driven them to panic by presenting clear evidence against them. Why would she be so stubborn about it unless she had something to gain from Yasuhiro being convicted?
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** She consistently pushes the "Hagakure is the culprit" story long after holes have been poked in it. She ''immediately'' starts up a Bullet Time Battle after Makoto states that Yasuhiro might be innocent -- which innocent--which before this was reserved for final battles against the culprit (well, Kiyotaka stands in for Mondo, but he's clearly emotionally compromised by the idea that his OnlyFriend might be a killer) after you've driven them to panic by presenting clear evidence against them. Why would she be so stubborn about it unless she had something to gain from Yasuhiro being convicted?
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* Some people had this towards Korekiyo being the culprit of Chapter 3, since he set up the seance that got Tenko killed. It also became obvious he also killed Angie once the theory of Tenko killing the former and herself fell through, and the RecurringElement meant that if he killed one, then he must have killed the other. WordOfGod even admits that the reveal was meant to be incredibly obvious.
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* Some people had this towards Korekiyo being the culprit of Chapter 3, since he set up the seance séance that got Tenko killed. It also became obvious he also killed Angie once the theory of Tenko killing the former and herself fell through, and the RecurringElement meant that if he killed one, then he must have killed the other. WordOfGod even admits that the reveal was meant to be incredibly obvious.
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* The reveal in Chapter 2's trial that the serial killer "Genocide Jack" is actually Toko's SplitPersonality. The game all but says it outright during the chapter's investigation: the first time Toko sees the victim's body, she momentarily faints and then wakes up with a new, manic, insane personality; later on, after coming back to normal, she locks herself in her room and says that she "won't let Genocide Jack take control".
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** After it becomes clear Hifumi was an accomplice, Celeste is highly suspicious as the one he interacts with the most.
** She's consistently pushing the 'Hagakure is the culprit' story long after holes have been poked in it. She ''immediately'' starts up a Bullet Time Battle after you state that Hagakure might be innocent- which before this was reserved for final battles against the culprit (well, Ishimaru stands in for Mondo, but he's clearly emotionally compromised by the idea that his OnlyFriend might be a killer) after you've driven them to panic by presenting clear evidence against them. Why would she be so stubborn about it unless she had something to gain from Hagakure being convicted?
** She's consistently pushing the 'Hagakure is the culprit' story long after holes have been poked in it. She ''immediately'' starts up a Bullet Time Battle after you state that Hagakure might be innocent- which before this was reserved for final battles against the culprit (well, Ishimaru stands in for Mondo, but he's clearly emotionally compromised by the idea that his OnlyFriend might be a killer) after you've driven them to panic by presenting clear evidence against them. Why would she be so stubborn about it unless she had something to gain from Hagakure being convicted?
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**She's She consistently pushing pushes the 'Hagakure "Hagakure is the culprit' culprit" story long after holes have been poked in it. She ''immediately'' starts up a Bullet Time Battle after you state Makoto states that Hagakure Yasuhiro might be innocent- innocent -- which before this was reserved for final battles against the culprit (well, Ishimaru Kiyotaka stands in for Mondo, but he's clearly emotionally compromised by the idea that his OnlyFriend might be a killer) after you've driven them to panic by presenting clear evidence against them. Why would she be so stubborn about it unless she had something to gain from Hagakure Yasuhiro being convicted?
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* Ryoma dying. It should come off as no surprise that the suicidal depressed DeathSeeker would let himself be killed in a killing game. If anything, some fans were just surprised he wasn't the ''first'' victim.
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* Ryoma dying. It should come off as no surprise that the suicidal depressed a DeathSeeker would let himself themselves be killed in a killing game. If anything, some fans were just surprised he wasn't the ''first'' victim.
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* Maki lying about her own talent can be this, since she's a self-admitted ChildHater, and forbids anybody from entering her own lab. She isn't the first student who's talented at something they don't enjoy (Leon comes to mind), but her unusually secretive behavior makes her come across as suspicious.
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* Tsumugi being the "mastermind", due to how OutOfFocus she has been throughout the story, giving evidence that something was going to happen to her character around the climax.
* Maki lying about her own talent can be this, since she's a self-admitted ChildHater, and forbids anybody from entering her own lab. She isn't the first student who's talented at something they don't enjoy (Leon comes to mind), but her unusually secretive behavior makes her come across as suspicious.
* Kokichi lying about being the mastermind can come across. With there being six chapters in the game as usual, him lying about being the mastermind in Chapter 5 indirectly led fans to get SpoiledByTheFormat.
* The fact the virtual world loops can count as well, as almost anybody who ever played an old school video game could quickly figure that out.
* The victim of Chapter 5 being Kokichi. Why else would Kaito's coat sleeve be sticking very obviously out of the hydraulic press while Kokichi's clothes are found flushed down the toilet if not to mislead the characters?
* Maki lying about her own talent can be this, since she's a self-admitted ChildHater, and forbids anybody from entering her own lab. She isn't the first student who's talented at something they don't enjoy (Leon comes to mind), but her unusually secretive behavior makes her come across as suspicious.
* Kokichi lying about being the mastermind can come across. With there being six chapters in the game as usual, him lying about being the mastermind in Chapter 5 indirectly led fans to get SpoiledByTheFormat.
* The fact the virtual world loops can count as well, as almost anybody who ever played an old school video game could quickly figure that out.
* The victim of Chapter 5 being Kokichi. Why else would Kaito's coat sleeve be sticking very obviously out of the hydraulic press while Kokichi's clothes are found flushed down the toilet if not to mislead the characters?
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* Maki lying about her own talent can be this, since she's a self-admitted ChildHater, and forbids anybody from entering her own lab. She isn't the first student who's talented at something they don't enjoy (Leon comes to mind), but her unusually secretive behavior makes her come across as suspicious.
* Kokichi lying about being the mastermind can come across. With there being six chapters in the game as usual, him lying about being the mastermind in Chapter 5 indirectly led fans to get SpoiledByTheFormat.
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* Tsumugi being the "mastermind", due to how OutOfFocus she is throughout the story, giving evidence that something would happen to her character around the climax.
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* Chihiro being a boy (and the fact that he'd either be the victim or the culprit) is unfortunately rather telegraphed by the fact that Chihiro shows extreme reluctance to hang out with the girls in the locker room to exercise... ''immediately'' after Monokuma made a huge, this-will-be-relevant-to-the-case deal out of the gender-based restrictions on locker room access. It's even more predictable in the Japanese version, where his voice files are [[LarynxDissonance obviously being done by a man]].
* Celeste being the Chapter 3 culprit. With a bit of thinking it is easy to pinpoint the whole crime on Celeste the very moment the investigation properly begins:
** She says she begged for her life when the "madman" attacked her- something ''extremely'' out of character for Celestia.
* Celeste being the Chapter 3 culprit. With a bit of thinking it is easy to pinpoint the whole crime on Celeste the very moment the investigation properly begins:
** She says she begged for her life when the "madman" attacked her- something ''extremely'' out of character for Celestia.
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* Chihiro being a boy (and the fact that he'd either be the victim or the culprit) culprit of Chapter 2) is unfortunately rather telegraphed by the fact that Chihiro shows extreme reluctance to hang out with the girls in the locker room to exercise... ''immediately'' after Monokuma made a huge, this-will-be-relevant-to-the-case deal out of the gender-based restrictions on locker room access. It's even more predictable in the Japanese version, where his voice files are [[LarynxDissonance obviously being done by a man]].
*Celeste Celestia being the culprit of Chapter 3 culprit. 3. With a bit of thinking it is thinking, it's easy to pinpoint the whole crime on Celeste the very moment the investigation properly begins:
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* The fact that Sakura was DrivenToSuicide in Chapter 4. The poison powder on her shoes, the locked room murder aspect, and the fact that someone of her body mass had her corpse positioned to be sitting normally were dead giveaways.
* The reveal that Kyoko's ultimate talent is Detective. No shit? She spends every single case ruthlessly investigating, everyone is amazed by how professional she is when inspecting bodies, she's constantly talking about proper investigative procedure, and the first thing she does during the Chapter 1 investigation is to ''search the crime scene, Makoto's bedroom, for stray strands of hair''.
* The twist of Kyoko being the headmaster's daughter was not very surprising to some, considering how she immediately lost her composure when Alter Ego revealed it was the headmaster's idea to lock them in the school.
* The reveal that Kyoko's ultimate talent is Detective. No shit? She spends every single case ruthlessly investigating, everyone is amazed by how professional she is when inspecting bodies, she's constantly talking about proper investigative procedure, and the first thing she does during the Chapter 1 investigation is to ''search the crime scene, Makoto's bedroom, for stray strands of hair''.
* The twist of Kyoko being the headmaster's daughter was not very surprising to some, considering how she immediately lost her composure when Alter Ego revealed it was the headmaster's idea to lock them in the school.
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* The reveal that Kyoko's ultimate talent is Detective. No shit? She spends every single case ruthlessly investigating, everyone is amazed by how professional she is when inspecting bodies, she's constantly talking about proper investigative procedure, and the first thing she does after the Chapter 1 investigation begins is to ''search the crime scene, Makoto's bedroom, for stray strands of hair''.
* The twist of Kyoko being the headmaster's daughter was not very surprising to some, considering how she immediately lost her composure when Alter Ego revealed it was the headmaster's idea to lock them in the school.
* The fact that Sakura was DrivenToSuicide. The poison powder on her shoes, the locked room murder aspect, and the fact that someone of her body mass had her corpse positioned to be sitting normally, were dead giveaways.
* The twist of Kyoko being the headmaster's daughter was not very surprising to some, considering how she immediately lost her composure when Alter Ego revealed it was the headmaster's idea to lock them in the school.
* The fact that Sakura was DrivenToSuicide. The poison powder on her shoes, the locked room murder aspect, and the fact that someone of her body mass had her corpse positioned to be sitting normally, were dead giveaways.
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* Maki lying about her own talent can be this, since she's a self-admitted ChildHater, and forbids anybody from entering her own lab. She isn't the first character student who's talented at something she doesn't they don't enjoy (Leon comes to mind), but her unusually secretive behavior makes her come across as suspicious.
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* Shinsen being the BigBad would be a big twist... if it wasn't for the fact that A) He's the character you learn the least about; B) He's labeled as mysterious by other characters; and, most tellingly, C) He disappears instead of dying. Anyone can easily deduce from there.
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* Shinsen being the BigBad would be a big twist... if it wasn't for the fact that A) He's initially the character you learn the least about; B) He's labeled as mysterious by other characters; and, most tellingly, C) He disappears instead of dying. Anyone can easily deduce from there.
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* Maki lying about her own talent can be this, since she's self-admitted ChildHater, and forbids anybody from entering her own lab. She isn't the first character who's talented at something she doesn't enjoy (Leon comes to mind), but her unusually secretive behavior makes her come across as suspicious.
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* Maki lying about her own talent can be this, since she's a self-admitted ChildHater, and forbids anybody from entering her own lab. She isn't the first character who's talented at something she doesn't enjoy (Leon comes to mind), but her unusually secretive behavior makes her come across as suspicious.
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* Ryoma dying. It should come off as no surprise that the suicidal depressed DeathSeeker would let himself be killed in a killing game, if anything, some fans were just surprised he wasn't the ''first'' victim.
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* Ryoma dying. It should come off as no surprise that the suicidal depressed DeathSeeker would let himself be killed in a killing game, if game. If anything, some fans were just surprised he wasn't the ''first'' victim.
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** She and Hifumi are the only ones who actually ''see'' the supposed killer in action; by the time anyone else gets there, he's always gone with no trace except the hammers and some injuries.
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* Celeste being the Chapter 3 culprit. With a bit of thinking it is easy to pinpoint the whole crime on Celeste the very moment the investigation properly begins, and by the end of the investigation it's quite obvious that Yasuhiro is being framed and Celeste acts ''very'' suspiciously, as she leaves some large holes in her testimony. It becomes even more obvious when you realize Hifumi was an accomplice, as Celeste is the person Hifumi interacts the most with. Then during the trial, she's the main person pushing for her frame job, much more blatantly than Leon or Mondo, so she becomes even more suspicious as Yasuhiro is gradually proven innocent. How intentional this is is up for debate.
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* Celeste being the Chapter 3 culprit. With a bit of thinking it is easy to pinpoint the whole crime on Celeste the very moment the investigation properly begins, begins:
** She says she begged for her life when the "madman" attacked her- something ''extremely'' out of character for Celestia.
** She's always present during the investigation, andby the end of the investigation it's quite obvious that Yasuhiro is being framed and Celeste acts ''very'' suspiciously, as she leaves some large holes in others tend to act on her testimony. It suggestions.
** After it becomeseven more obvious when you realize clear Hifumi was an accomplice, as Celeste is the person Hifumi interacts the most with. Then during the trial, she's the main person pushing for her frame job, much more blatantly than Leon or Mondo, so she becomes even more highly suspicious as Yasuhiro the one he interacts with the most.
** She's consistently pushing the 'Hagakure isgradually proven innocent. How intentional the culprit' story long after holes have been poked in it. She ''immediately'' starts up a Bullet Time Battle after you state that Hagakure might be innocent- which before this is is up was reserved for debate. final battles against the culprit (well, Ishimaru stands in for Mondo, but he's clearly emotionally compromised by the idea that his OnlyFriend might be a killer) after you've driven them to panic by presenting clear evidence against them. Why would she be so stubborn about it unless she had something to gain from Hagakure being convicted?
** She says she begged for her life when the "madman" attacked her- something ''extremely'' out of character for Celestia.
** She's always present during the investigation, and
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** She's consistently pushing the 'Hagakure is
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* Maki lying about her own talent can also be this since she is self-admitted ChildHater, and forbids anybody from entering her own lab. She isn't the first character who's talented at something she doesn't enjoy (Leon comes to mind), but her unusually secretive behavior makes her come across as suspicious.
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* Maki lying about her own talent can also be this this, since she is she's self-admitted ChildHater, and forbids anybody from entering her own lab. She isn't the first character who's talented at something she doesn't enjoy (Leon comes to mind), but her unusually secretive behavior makes her come across as suspicious.
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* The fact the virtual world loops could count as well as almost anybody who ever played an old school video game could quickly figure that out.
* The victim of Chapter 5 being Kokichi - why else would Kaito's coat sleeve be sticking very obviously out of the hydraulic press while Kokichi's clothes are found flushed down the toilet if not to mislead the characters?
* The victim of Chapter 5 being Kokichi - why else would Kaito's coat sleeve be sticking very obviously out of the hydraulic press while Kokichi's clothes are found flushed down the toilet if not to mislead the characters?
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* The fact the virtual world loops could can count as well well, as almost anybody who ever played an old school video game could quickly figure that out.
* The victim of Chapter 5 beingKokichi - why Kokichi. Why else would Kaito's coat sleeve be sticking very obviously out of the hydraulic press while Kokichi's clothes are found flushed down the toilet if not to mislead the characters?
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* Some people had this towards Korekiyo being the third culprit of the game since he set-up the seance that had Tenko died. It also became obvious he also killed Angie once the theory of Tenko killing the former and herself fell through, and the RecurringElement meant that if he killed one, then he must have killed the other. WordOfGod even admits that the reveal was meant to be incredibly obvious.
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* Some people had this towards Korekiyo being the third culprit of the game Chapter 3, since he set-up set up the seance that had got Tenko died.killed. It also became obvious he also killed Angie once the theory of Tenko killing the former and herself fell through, and the RecurringElement meant that if he killed one, then he must have killed the other. WordOfGod even admits that the reveal was meant to be incredibly obvious.
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* Some people had this towards Korekiyo being the third culprit of the game since he set-up the seance that had Tenko died. It also became obvious he also killed Angie once the theory of Tenko killing the former and herself fell through, and the ReoccuringTheme meant that if he killed one, then he must have killed the other. WordOfGod even admits that the reveal was meant to be incredibly obvious.
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* Some people had this towards Korekiyo being the third culprit of the game since he set-up the seance that had Tenko died. It also became obvious he also killed Angie once the theory of Tenko killing the former and herself fell through, and the ReoccuringTheme RecurringElement meant that if he killed one, then he must have killed the other. WordOfGod even admits that the reveal was meant to be incredibly obvious.
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* Shinsen being the BigBad would be a big twist... if it wasn't for the fact that A) He's the character you learn the least about; B) He's labeled as mysterious by other characters; and, most tellingly, C) He disappears instead of dying. Anyone can easily deduce from there.
* Shinsen being the BigBad would be a big twist... if it wasn't for the fact that A) He's the character you learn the least about; B) He's labeled as mysterious by other characters; and, most tellingly, C) He disappears instead of dying. Anyone can easily deduce from there.
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!!Spin-offs:
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* Ryoma dying. It should come off as no surprise that the suicidal depressed DeathSeeker would let himself be killed in a killing game, if anything, some fans were just surprised he wasn't the ''first'' victim.
* Some people had this towards Korekiyo being the third culprit of the game since he set-up the seance that had Tenko died. It also became obvious he also killed Angie once the theory of Tenko killing the former and herself fell through, and the ReoccuringTheme meant that if he killed one, then he must have killed the other. WordOfGod even admits that the reveal was meant to be incredibly obvious.
* Tsumugi being the "mastermind", due to how OutOfFocus she has been throughout the story, giving evidence that something was going to happen to her character around the climax.
* Maki lying about her own talent can also be this since she is self-admitted ChildHater, and forbids anybody from entering her own lab. She isn't the first character who's talented at something she doesn't enjoy (Leon comes to mind), but her unusually secretive behavior makes her come across as suspicious.
* Kokichi lying about being the mastermind can come across. With there being six chapters in the game as usual, him lying about being the mastermind in Chapter 5 indirectly led fans to get SpoiledByTheFormat.
* The fact the virtual world loops could count as well as almost anybody who ever played an old school video game could quickly figure that out.
* The victim of Chapter 5 being Kokichi - why else would Kaito's coat sleeve be sticking very obviously out of the hydraulic press while Kokichi's clothes are found flushed down the toilet if not to mislead the characters?
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* The series had been so conspicuously vague about their love triangle that it came as a surprise to very few that Juzo was in love with Munakata, not Chisa.
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* The series had been so conspicuously vague about their love triangle that it came as a surprise to very few that Juzo was in love with Munakata, not Chisa.
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!!Main installments:
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* The DyingClue "11037" in the English localization, which is "LEON" upside down and backwards. It was a bit more obscured in the original, since the intended audience didn't have English as a first language. For icing, while most classmates call each other by their last names in the original (to the point at which Leon has to ask who Aoi's referring to when she calls Sakura by her first name), in the localization everyone's on a first-name basis, so it's that much easier to make the connection. In-game, it's this for Kyoko, who figures it out before everyone else and eventually has to outright tell them to turn it 180 degrees when they're stumped.
* Chihiro being a boy (and the fact that he'd either be the victim or the culprit) is unfortunately rather telegraphed by the fact that Chihiro shows extreme reluctance to hang out with the girls in the locker room to exercise... ''immediately'' after Monokuma made a huge, this-will-be-relevant-to-the-case deal out of the gender-based restrictions on locker room access. It's even more predictable in the Japanese version, where his voice files are [[LarynxDissonance obviously being done by a man]].
* Celeste being the Chapter 3 culprit. With a bit of thinking it is easy to pinpoint the whole crime on Celeste the very moment the investigation properly begins, and by the end of the investigation it's quite obvious that Yasuhiro is being framed and Celeste acts ''very'' suspiciously, as she leaves some large holes in her testimony. It becomes even more obvious when you realize Hifumi was an accomplice, as Celeste is the person Hifumi interacts the most with. Then during the trial, she's the main person pushing for her frame job, much more blatantly than Leon or Mondo, so she becomes even more suspicious as Yasuhiro is gradually proven innocent. How intentional this is is up for debate.
* Similarly, the fact that Hifumi initially faked his death in Chapter 3 is transparently obvious if you try to examine his "corpse" the second you find it. For some reason, [[ButThouMust the game really doesn't want you to examine it]].
* The reveal that everyone had already gone to the academy is so heavily hinted at in the latter portion of the game that the only thing preventing it from being a non-event is the internal logic behind how it happened, which the game doesn't actually give you.
* The reveal that Kyoko's ultimate talent is Detective. No shit? She spends every single case ruthlessly investigating, everyone is amazed by how professional she is when inspecting bodies, she's constantly talking about proper investigative procedure, and the first thing she does after the Chapter 1 investigation begins is to ''search the crime scene, Makoto's bedroom, for stray strands of hair''.
* The twist of Kyoko being the headmaster's daughter was not very surprising to some, considering how she immediately lost her composure when Alter Ego revealed it was the headmaster's idea to lock them in the school.
* The fact that Sakura was DrivenToSuicide. The poison powder on her shoes, the locked room murder aspect, and the fact that someone of her body mass had her corpse positioned to be sitting normally, were dead giveaways.
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[[folder:''Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc'']]
* The DyingClue "11037" in the English localization, which is "LEON" upside down and backwards. It was a bit more obscured in the original, since the intended audience didn't have English as a first language. For icing, while most classmates call each other by their last names in the original (to the point at which Leon has to ask who Aoi's referring to when she calls Sakura by her first name), in the localization everyone's on a first-name basis, so it's that much easier to make the connection. In-game, it's this for Kyoko, who figures it out before everyone else and eventually has to outright tell them to turn it 180 degrees when they're stumped.
* Chihiro being a boy (and the fact that he'd either be the victim or the culprit) is unfortunately rather telegraphed by the fact that Chihiro shows extreme reluctance to hang out with the girls in the locker room to exercise... ''immediately'' after Monokuma made a huge, this-will-be-relevant-to-the-case deal out of the gender-based restrictions on locker room access. It's even more predictable in the Japanese version, where his voice files are [[LarynxDissonance obviously being done by a man]].
* Celeste being the Chapter 3 culprit. With a bit of thinking it is easy to pinpoint the whole crime on Celeste the very moment the investigation properly begins, and by the end of the investigation it's quite obvious that Yasuhiro is being framed and Celeste acts ''very'' suspiciously, as she leaves some large holes in her testimony. It becomes even more obvious when you realize Hifumi was an accomplice, as Celeste is the person Hifumi interacts the most with. Then during the trial, she's the main person pushing for her frame job, much more blatantly than Leon or Mondo, so she becomes even more suspicious as Yasuhiro is gradually proven innocent. How intentional this is is up for debate.
* Similarly, the fact that Hifumi initially faked his death in Chapter 3 is transparently obvious if you try to examine his "corpse" the second you find it. For some reason, [[ButThouMust the game really doesn't want you to examine it]].
* The reveal that everyone had already gone to the academy is so heavily hinted at in the latter portion of the game that the only thing preventing it from being a non-event is the internal logic behind how it happened, which the game doesn't actually give you.
* The reveal that Kyoko's ultimate talent is Detective. No shit? She spends every single case ruthlessly investigating, everyone is amazed by how professional she is when inspecting bodies, she's constantly talking about proper investigative procedure, and the first thing she does after the Chapter 1 investigation begins is to ''search the crime scene, Makoto's bedroom, for stray strands of hair''.
* The twist of Kyoko being the headmaster's daughter was not very surprising to some, considering how she immediately lost her composure when Alter Ego revealed it was the headmaster's idea to lock them in the school.
* The fact that Sakura was DrivenToSuicide. The poison powder on her shoes, the locked room murder aspect, and the fact that someone of her body mass had her corpse positioned to be sitting normally, were dead giveaways.
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