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I just remembered that the Ravagers comic also has its own page.
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** The ComicBook/New52 reboot seemed to have retconned the team out of existence. Niles Caulder shows up in ''The Ravagers'' ''severely'' de-aged and Danny the Street is, well, a street again instead of a planet with no explanation as to why. Similarly, Beast Boy's origin is completely changed and no longer involves him being adopted by Mento and Elasti-Girl of the Doom Patrol. ''However''...
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** The ComicBook/New52 reboot seemed to have retconned the team out of existence. Niles Caulder shows up in ''The Ravagers'' ''ComicBook/TheRavagers'' ''severely'' de-aged and Danny the Street is, well, a street again instead of a planet with no explanation as to why. Similarly, Beast Boy's origin is completely changed and no longer involves him being adopted by Mento and Elasti-Girl of the Doom Patrol. ''However''...
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In addition to the revisions I've made before to clear up the misconception of John Byrne's Doom Patrol series being no longer canon when there is clear indication of the series at least being canon in Broad Strokes from the continued appearances of Nudge and Grunt, those two New 52 comics have their own pages.
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** The Doom Patrol, ''including Niles Caulder'' later appear in Geoff Johns' ''Justice League'' run and ''Forever Evil''. ''League'' featured an older Niles Caulder than the one in ''Ravagers'', and he is indeed in charge of the Doom Patrol. However, fan reaction to the portrayal of the team was... mixed, to say the least, as Caulder was portrayed as an absolute bully to the team, whereas he was previously a manipulator who at least ''pretended'' that he cared about them and their feelings. Eventually, this version would be regarded as not canonical as well, with...
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** The Doom Patrol, ''including Niles Caulder'' later appear in Geoff Johns' ''Justice League'' ''ComicBook/{{Justice League|2011}}'' run and ''Forever Evil''.''ComicBook/{{Forever Evil|2013}}''. ''League'' featured an older Niles Caulder than the one in ''Ravagers'', and he is indeed in charge of the Doom Patrol. However, fan reaction to the portrayal of the team was... mixed, to say the least, as Caulder was portrayed as an absolute bully to the team, whereas he was previously a manipulator who at least ''pretended'' that he cared about them and their feelings. Eventually, this version would be regarded as not canonical as well, with...
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** Byrne's reboot being undone by the events of ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', which reinstated the events of every ''Doom Patrol'' series prior to John Byrne's to continuity, but didn't necessarily erase the John Byrne series from continuity completely, as the presence of Nudge and Grunt (two of the additional team members introduced in Byrne's run) in an issue of Geoff Johns' run on ''ComicBook/TeenTitans2003'' that tied in to ''Infinite Crisis'' (which was where the restoration of the Doom Patrol's prior history specifically occurred) as well as the start of Keith Giffen's run indicates that the events of the John Byrne series [[BroadStrokes were still canonical, only without the more flagrant discrepancies towards prior continuity (such as Elasti-Girl being in love with Robotman when she was previously married to Mento and Niles Caulder being crippled by a shaman named T'oombala instead of General Immortus]]. Unfortunately...
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** Byrne's reboot being undone by the events of ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', which reinstated the events of every ''Doom Patrol'' series prior to John Byrne's to continuity, but didn't necessarily erase the John Byrne series from continuity completely, as the presence of Nudge and Grunt (two of the additional team members introduced in Byrne's run) in an issue of Geoff Johns' run on ''ComicBook/TeenTitans2003'' that tied in to ''Infinite Crisis'' (which was where the restoration of the Doom Patrol's prior history specifically occurred) as well as the start of Keith Giffen's run indicates that the events of the John Byrne series [[BroadStrokes were still canonical, only without the more flagrant discrepancies towards prior continuity (such as Elasti-Girl being in love with Robotman when she was previously married to Mento and Niles Caulder being crippled by a shaman named T'oombala instead of General Immortus]].Immortus)]]. Unfortunately...
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** Byrne's reboot being undone by the events of ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', which reinstated the events of every ''Doom Patrol'' series prior to John Byrne's to continuity, but didn't necessarily erase the John Byrne series from continuity completely, as the presence of Nudge and Grunt (two of the additional team members introduced in Byrne's run) in the issue of Geoff Johns' run on ''ComicBook/TeenTitans2003'' that tied in to ''Infinite Crisis'' (which was where the restoration of the Doom Patrol's prior history specifically occurred) as well as the start of Keith Giffen's run indicates that the events of the John Byrne series [[BroadStrokes were still canonical, only without the more flagrant discrepancies towards prior continuity (such as Elasti-Girl being in love with Robotman when she was previously married to Mento and Niles Caulder being crippled by a shaman named T'oombala instead of General Immortus]]. Unfortunately...
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** Byrne's reboot being undone by the events of ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', which reinstated the events of every ''Doom Patrol'' series prior to John Byrne's to continuity, but didn't necessarily erase the John Byrne series from continuity completely, as the presence of Nudge and Grunt (two of the additional team members introduced in Byrne's run) in the an issue of Geoff Johns' run on ''ComicBook/TeenTitans2003'' that tied in to ''Infinite Crisis'' (which was where the restoration of the Doom Patrol's prior history specifically occurred) as well as the start of Keith Giffen's run indicates that the events of the John Byrne series [[BroadStrokes were still canonical, only without the more flagrant discrepancies towards prior continuity (such as Elasti-Girl being in love with Robotman when she was previously married to Mento and Niles Caulder being crippled by a shaman named T'oombala instead of General Immortus]]. Unfortunately...
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Grunt and Nudge, who were members originating in John Byrne's run, were shown to still exist after the events of the preceding Doom Patrol comics were restored to continuity, and were even present at the start of Keith Giffen's run, so it isn't really accurate to say that John Byrne's run was rendered non-canon, even if it was originally presented as a full-on reboot that ignored everything that came before.
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** John Byrne rebooted the entire franchise with his run, and nothing before is even remotely canonical. Fan reception was ''not'' positive, to say the least, which led to...
** John Byrne's run specifically not being considered canonical by the subsequent creative teams, but everything ''it'' retconned out is indeed still canon. Keith Giffen's run even brings back Crazy Jane from the Grant Morrison run, who didn't exist in the Byrne run. Unfortunately...
** John Byrne's run specifically not being considered canonical by the subsequent creative teams, but everything ''it'' retconned out is indeed still canon. Keith Giffen's run even brings back Crazy Jane from the Grant Morrison run, who didn't exist in the Byrne run. Unfortunately...
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** John Byrne rebooted [[ContinuityReboot rebooted]] the entire franchise with his run, and nothing before is even remotely canonical. Fan reception was ''not'' positive, to say the least, which led to...
** Byrne's reboot being undone by the events of ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', which reinstated the events of every ''Doom Patrol'' series prior to John Byrne's to continuity, but didn't necessarily erase the John Byrne series from continuity completely, as the presence of Nudge and Grunt (two of the additional team members introduced in Byrne's run) in the issue of Geoff Johns' run on ''ComicBook/TeenTitans2003'' that tied in to ''Infinite Crisis'' (which was where the restoration of the Doom Patrol's prior history specificallynot being considered canonical by occurred) as well as the subsequent creative teams, but everything ''it'' retconned out is indeed still canon. start of Keith Giffen's run even brings back Crazy Jane from indicates that the Grant Morrison run, who didn't exist in events of the John Byrne run.series [[BroadStrokes were still canonical, only without the more flagrant discrepancies towards prior continuity (such as Elasti-Girl being in love with Robotman when she was previously married to Mento and Niles Caulder being crippled by a shaman named T'oombala instead of General Immortus]]. Unfortunately...
** Byrne's reboot being undone by the events of ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', which reinstated the events of every ''Doom Patrol'' series prior to John Byrne's to continuity, but didn't necessarily erase the John Byrne series from continuity completely, as the presence of Nudge and Grunt (two of the additional team members introduced in Byrne's run) in the issue of Geoff Johns' run on ''ComicBook/TeenTitans2003'' that tied in to ''Infinite Crisis'' (which was where the restoration of the Doom Patrol's prior history specifically
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** Gerard Way's ''ComicBook/DoomPatrol2016'', the debut title of the Creator/YoungAnimal imprint! At first, it seemed like Way's DP would be a complete ContinuityReboot, in a similar vein to Byrne's. However, it is later revealed that everything except the Byrne and New 52 stuff is canonical, as the characters make specific reference to the Grant Morrison and Keith Giffen runs, and some stories even act as sequels to those runs.
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** Gerard Way's ''ComicBook/DoomPatrol2016'', the debut title of the Creator/YoungAnimal imprint! At first, it seemed like Way's DP would be a complete ContinuityReboot, in a similar vein to Byrne's. However, it is later revealed that everything except the Byrne and New 52 stuff is canonical, as the characters make specific reference to the Grant Morrison and Keith Giffen runs, and some stories even act as sequels to those runs.
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** On the flip side, [[spoiler:the events of Batman's trip through the multiverse that included the resurrection of various versions of the Joker is ignored by one universe as one of the Jokers revived on-panel is the ''Franchise/BatmanArkhamSeries'' Joker -- whereas ''VideoGame/SuicideSquadKillTheJusticeLeague'', also set in the ''Arkham'' universe, treats its universe's Joker was still dead.]]
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** On the flip side, [[spoiler:the events of Batman's trip through the multiverse that included the resurrection of various versions of the Joker is ignored by one universe of those universes as one of the Jokers revived on-panel is the ''Franchise/BatmanArkhamSeries'' Joker -- whereas ''VideoGame/SuicideSquadKillTheJusticeLeague'', also set in the ''Arkham'' universe, treats its universe's Joker was as still dead.]]
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** On the flip side, [[spoiler:the events of Batman's trip through the multiversethAT included the resurrection of various versions of the Joker is ignored by one universe as one of the Jokers revived on-panel is the ''Franchise/BatmanArkhamSeries'' Joker -- whereas ''VideoGame/SuicideSquadKillTheJusticeLeague'', also set in the ''Arkham'' universe, treats its universe's Joker was still dead.]]
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** On the flip side, [[spoiler:the events of Batman's trip through the multiversethAT multiverse that included the resurrection of various versions of the Joker is ignored by one universe as one of the Jokers revived on-panel is the ''Franchise/BatmanArkhamSeries'' Joker -- whereas ''VideoGame/SuicideSquadKillTheJusticeLeague'', also set in the ''Arkham'' universe, treats its universe's Joker was still dead.]]
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** On the flip side, [[spoiler:the events of Batman's trip through the multiverse including the resurrection of various versions of the Joker as the story sees one of the Jokers revived on-panel being the ''Franchise/BatmanArkhamSeries'' Joker -- whereas ''VideoGame/SuicideSquadKillTheJusticeLeague'', set in the same universe, treats the ''Arkham'' Joker was still deceased.]]
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** On the flip side, [[spoiler:the events of Batman's trip through the multiverse including multiversethAT included the resurrection of various versions of the Joker is ignored by one universe as the story sees one of the Jokers revived on-panel being is the ''Franchise/BatmanArkhamSeries'' Joker -- whereas ''VideoGame/SuicideSquadKillTheJusticeLeague'', also set in the same universe, treats the ''Arkham'' universe, treats its universe's Joker was still deceased.dead.]]
