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!!Per troping policy, all spoilers are unmarked. Administrivia/YouHaveBeenWarned.
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* How does the Doctor deal with the [[MindRape 11th Angel]]? [[spoiler:He gets in the way of its beam and shows it his memories, so it knows what he has done and can do.]] The last we see of it, [[spoiler:it's [[ScrewThisImOutOfHere running away]] from Earth (or more accurately, running away from [[HorrifyingTheHorror the Doctor]]) at 20% of light speed. ''And it's accelerating'']].
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* How does the Doctor deal with the [[MindRape 11th Angel]]? [[spoiler:He He gets in the way of its beam and shows it his memories, so it knows what he has done and can do.]] do. The last we see of it, [[spoiler:it's it's [[ScrewThisImOutOfHere running away]] from Earth (or more accurately, running away from [[HorrifyingTheHorror the Doctor]]) at 20% of light speed. ''And it's accelerating'']].accelerating''.
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* While facing Israfel, Shinji has no idea what to do, so he asks himself what the Doctor would do. This results in Shinji running away... only to come running back at ''over Mach 1.2'', tackling one half of Israfel through a stadium. ''Then a skyscraper''. '''Then hitting it with his own Eva's detached arm so hard it bounces off the street and into a mall!'''
** Israfel was defeated ''conventionally.'' No Dance competition, no synchronicity exercises, no Berserker State, just Shinji letting himself cut loose in the Eva and Asuka doing the same.
** It's a little more complicated than that. Throughout the story, the Doctor's been encouraging the pilots not only to think for themselves, but to think strategically rather than just rushing into things. Shinji's victory comes about as a result of him planning ahead and breaking a water line to flood a street before the battle even starts. He later lures his half of Israfel into the resulting mess and [[CallBack electrocutes it]] as a distraction at a key moment. Shinji doesn't just win by cutting loose. He wins with ''science.''
** Israfel was defeated ''conventionally.'' No Dance competition, no synchronicity exercises, no Berserker State, just Shinji letting himself cut loose in the Eva and Asuka doing the same.
** It's a little more complicated than that. Throughout the story, the Doctor's been encouraging the pilots not only to think for themselves, but to think strategically rather than just rushing into things. Shinji's victory comes about as a result of him planning ahead and breaking a water line to flood a street before the battle even starts. He later lures his half of Israfel into the resulting mess and [[CallBack electrocutes it]] as a distraction at a key moment. Shinji doesn't just win by cutting loose. He wins with ''science.''
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* While facing Israfel, Shinji has no idea what to do, so he asks himself what the Doctor would do. This results in Shinji running away... only to come running back at ''over Mach 1.2'', tackling one half of Israfel through a stadium. ''Then a skyscraper''. skyscraper.'' '''Then hitting it with his own Eva's detached arm so hard it bounces off the street and into a mall!'''
** Israfel was defeated ''conventionally.'' NoDance dance competition, no synchronicity exercises, no Berserker State, just Shinji letting himself cut loose in the Eva and Asuka doing the same.
** It's a little more complicated than that. Throughout the story, the Doctor's been encouraging the pilots not only to think for themselves, but to think strategically rather than just rushing into things. Shinji's victory comes about as a result of him planning ahead and breaking a water line to flood a street before the battle even starts. He later lures his half of Israfel into the resulting mess and [[CallBack electrocutes it]] as a distraction at a key moment. Shinji doesn't just win by cuttingloose. He loose; he wins with ''science.''
** Israfel was defeated ''conventionally.'' No
** It's a little more complicated than that. Throughout the story, the Doctor's been encouraging the pilots not only to think for themselves, but to think strategically rather than just rushing into things. Shinji's victory comes about as a result of him planning ahead and breaking a water line to flood a street before the battle even starts. He later lures his half of Israfel into the resulting mess and [[CallBack electrocutes it]] as a distraction at a key moment. Shinji doesn't just win by cutting
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--> '''Leliel!Shinji:''' So why risk making people hate you?\\
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''Later in the conversation''\\
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'''Leliel!Shinji:''' ''(Silence. Shows a scene of a future Shinji [[NoYou being considered insane]])''
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'''Leliel!Shinji:''' ''(Silence. Shows ''[silence; shows a scene of a future Shinji [[NoYou being considered insane]])''insane]]]''
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* How does the Doctor deal with the [[MindRape 11th Angel]]? [[spoiler: He gets in the way of its beam and shows it his memories, so it knows what he has done and can do]]. The last we see of it, [[spoiler: it's [[ScrewThisImOutOfHere running away]] from Earth (or more accurately, running away from [[HorrifyingTheHorror The Doctor]]) at 20% of light speed. ''And it's accelerating'']].
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* How does the Doctor deal with the [[MindRape 11th Angel]]? [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He gets in the way of its beam and shows it his memories, so it knows what he has done and can do]]. do.]] The last we see of it, [[spoiler: it's [[spoiler:it's [[ScrewThisImOutOfHere running away]] from Earth (or more accurately, running away from [[HorrifyingTheHorror The the Doctor]]) at 20% of light speed. ''And it's accelerating'']].accelerating'']].
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add a little more explanation to the Episode 8 moment of awesome
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** It's a little more complicated than that. Throughout the story, the Doctor's been encouraging the pilots not only to think for themselves, but to think strategically rather than just rushing into things. Shinji's victory comes about as a result of him planning ahead and breaking a water line to flood a street before the battle even starts. He later lures his half of Israfel into the resulting mess and [[CallBack electrocutes it]] as a distraction at a key moment. Shinji doesn't just win by cutting loose. He wins with ''science.''
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-->'''Shinji:''' Oh. I see.\\
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** He also figures out that Leliel!Shinji isn't really him, pointing out that, despite Leliel!Shinji's claims that he was told but repressed the information, he didn't know about Asuka's mother or about Rose, and he wouldn't just repress that, nor could he just pick up on it subconsciously. And that it keeps going from telling him he sucks to telling him he should [[AGodAmI be God]] (I am not making that last one up).
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** He also figures out that Leliel!Shinji isn't really him, pointing out that, despite Leliel!Shinji's claims that he was told but repressed the information, he didn't know about Asuka's mother or about Rose, and he wouldn't just repress that, nor could he just pick up on it subconsciously. And that it keeps going from telling him he sucks to telling him he should [[AGodAmI be God]] (I am not making that last one up).God.
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'''Leliel!Shinji:''' ''(Silence. Shows sscene of a future Shinji being considered insane)''
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'''Leliel!Shinji:''' ''(Silence. Shows sscene a scene of a future Shinji [[NoYou being considered insane)''insane]])''
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** Israfel was defeated ''conventionally.'' No Dance competition, no synchronicity exercises, no Berserker State, just Shinji letting himself cut loose in the Eva and Asuka doing the same.
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* Rei gets one by ''weaponizing'' the Reiquarium against a Weeping Angel. Recall that part of what makes it creepy is the unblinking stares of the Rei Clones? What's the one way to freeze an Angel in place? And she figured this plan out in ''seconds''.
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** Later, the Doctor admits that Gendo was one step ahead of him the entire time. Gendo may not get the Father of the Year award in any way except ironically, but there's a ''reason'' he's got a reputation as a manipulative genius.
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* While facing Israfel, Shinji has no idea what to do, so he asks himself what the Doctor would do. This results in Shinji running away... only to come running back at ''over Mach 1.2'', tackling one half of Israfel through a stadium. ''Then a skyscraper''. '''[[{{HSQ}} Then hitting it with his own Eva's detached arm so hard it bounces off the street and into a mall!]]'''
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* While facing Israfel, Shinji has no idea what to do, so he asks himself what the Doctor would do. This results in Shinji running away... only to come running back at ''over Mach 1.2'', tackling one half of Israfel through a stadium. ''Then a skyscraper''. '''[[{{HSQ}} Then '''Then hitting it with his own Eva's detached arm so hard it bounces off the street and into a mall!]]'''mall!'''
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* How does the Doctor deal with the [[MindRape 11th Angel]]? [[spoiler: He gets in the way of its beam and shows it his memories, so it knows what he has done and can do]]. The last we see of it, [[spoiler: it's [[ScrewThisImOutOfHere running away]] from Earth (or more accurately, running away from [[HorrifyingTheHorror The Doctor]]) at 20% of light speed. ''And it's accelerating'']]
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* How does the Doctor deal with the [[MindRape 11th Angel]]? [[spoiler: He gets in the way of its beam and shows it his memories, so it knows what he has done and can do]]. The last we see of it, [[spoiler: it's [[ScrewThisImOutOfHere running away]] from Earth (or more accurately, running away from [[HorrifyingTheHorror The Doctor]]) at 20% of light speed. ''And it's accelerating'']]accelerating'']].
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* At the end of Episode 9, [[MagnificentBastard Gendo]] reveals that he plans on pitting the Doctor against [[TheOmniscientCouncilOfVagueness Seele Council]].
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* At the end of Episode 9, [[MagnificentBastard Gendo]] reveals that he plans on pitting the Doctor against [[TheOmniscientCouncilOfVagueness the Seele Council]].
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* In Episode 8, the Doctor discovers the existence of Lilith, and is furious. Later on, he ends up having a tense confrontation with Gendo Ikari. The Doctor wants answers about what he's discovered, and Gendo calmly offers an explanation for each of the former's arguments. The Doctor begrudgingly concedes, even though he doesn't approve of NERV's methods.
* At the end of Episode 9, [[MagnificentBastard Gendo]] reveals that he plans on pitting the Doctor against [[TheOmniscientCouncilOfVagueness Seele Council]].
* At the end of Episode 9, [[MagnificentBastard Gendo]] reveals that he plans on pitting the Doctor against [[TheOmniscientCouncilOfVagueness Seele Council]].
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** He also figures out that Leliel!Shinji isn't really him, pointing out that, despite Leliel!Shinji's claims that he was told but repressed the information, he didn't know about Asuka's mother or about Rose, and he wouldn't just repress that, nor could he just pick up on it subconsciously. And that it keeps going from telling him he sucks to telling him he should [[AGodAmI be God]](I am not making that last one up)
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** He also figures out that Leliel!Shinji isn't really him, pointing out that, despite Leliel!Shinji's claims that he was told but repressed the information, he didn't know about Asuka's mother or about Rose, and he wouldn't just repress that, nor could he just pick up on it subconsciously. And that it keeps going from telling him he sucks to telling him he should [[AGodAmI be God]](I God]] (I am not making that last one up)up).
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'''Leliel!Shinji:''' ''(Silence. Shows seen of a future Shinji being considered insane)''
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'''Leliel!Shinji:''' ''(Silence. Shows seen sscene of a future Shinji being considered insane)''
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* While facing Israfel, Shinji has no idea what to do, so he asks himself what the Doctor would do. This results in Shinji running away... only to come running back at ''over Mach 1.2'', tackling one half of Israfel through a stadium. ''Then a skyscraper''. '''[[HSQ Then hitting it with his own Eva's detached arm so hard it bounces off the street and into a mall!]]'''
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* While facing Israfel, Shinji has no idea what to do, so he asks himself what the Doctor would do. This results in Shinji running away... only to come running back at ''over Mach 1.2'', tackling one half of Israfel through a stadium. ''Then a skyscraper''. '''[[HSQ '''[[{{HSQ}} Then hitting it with his own Eva's detached arm so hard it bounces off the street and into a mall!]]'''
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* While facing Israfel, Shinji has no idea what to do, so he asks himself what the Doctor would do. This results in Shinji running away... only to come running back at ''over Mach 1.2'', tackling one half of Israfel through a stadium. ''Then a skyscraper''. '''[[HSQ Then hitting it with his own Eva's detached arm so hard it bounces off the street and into a mall!]]'''
* Shinji actually coming out on top during his conversation with "himself" in the 10th Angel, at times easily picking apart its attempts to [[BreakThemByTalking break him by talking]], and at times turning the tables on it.
--> '''Leliel!Shinji:''' So why risk making people hate you?\\
'''Shinji:''' You mean, with the banter? Well... the Doctor does that all of the time. And people never seem to care. They just think he's funny.\\
'''Leliel!Shinji:''' Maybe. But we're not the Doctor, are we?\\
''Later in the conversation''\\
'''Leliel!Shinji:''' So we managed to inspire pity in a man who wants to help literally everyone. Not much of an accomplishment.\\
'''Shinji:''' Yeah, maybe. Or... maybe... he saw something in us that even ''we'' can't see. Something worthwhile.\\
'''Leliel!Shinji:''' Like what?\\
'''Shinji:''' I don't know. It's like you said. [[IronicEcho We're not the Doctor]].
** Realising that Leliel!Shinji is actually afraid:
-->'''Shinji:''' Oh. I see.\\
'''Leliel!Shinji:''' Somehow, I doubt that.\\
'''Shinji:''' [[ArmorPiercingQuestion You're afraid, too, aren't you?]] You're afraid of making mistakes.\\
'''Leliel!Shinji:''' ''(Silence. Shows seen of a future Shinji being considered insane)''
** He also figures out that Leliel!Shinji isn't really him, pointing out that, despite Leliel!Shinji's claims that he was told but repressed the information, he didn't know about Asuka's mother or about Rose, and he wouldn't just repress that, nor could he just pick up on it subconsciously. And that it keeps going from telling him he sucks to telling him he should [[AGodAmI be God]](I am not making that last one up)
* How does the Doctor deal with the [[MindRape 11th Angel]]? [[spoiler: He gets in the way of its beam and shows it his memories, so it knows what he has done and can do]]. The last we see of it, [[spoiler: it's [[ScrewThisImOutOfHere running away]] from Earth (or more accurately, running away from [[HorrifyingTheHorror The Doctor]]) at 20% of light speed. ''And it's accelerating'']]
* Shinji actually coming out on top during his conversation with "himself" in the 10th Angel, at times easily picking apart its attempts to [[BreakThemByTalking break him by talking]], and at times turning the tables on it.
--> '''Leliel!Shinji:''' So why risk making people hate you?\\
'''Shinji:''' You mean, with the banter? Well... the Doctor does that all of the time. And people never seem to care. They just think he's funny.\\
'''Leliel!Shinji:''' Maybe. But we're not the Doctor, are we?\\
''Later in the conversation''\\
'''Leliel!Shinji:''' So we managed to inspire pity in a man who wants to help literally everyone. Not much of an accomplishment.\\
'''Shinji:''' Yeah, maybe. Or... maybe... he saw something in us that even ''we'' can't see. Something worthwhile.\\
'''Leliel!Shinji:''' Like what?\\
'''Shinji:''' I don't know. It's like you said. [[IronicEcho We're not the Doctor]].
** Realising that Leliel!Shinji is actually afraid:
-->'''Shinji:''' Oh. I see.\\
'''Leliel!Shinji:''' Somehow, I doubt that.\\
'''Shinji:''' [[ArmorPiercingQuestion You're afraid, too, aren't you?]] You're afraid of making mistakes.\\
'''Leliel!Shinji:''' ''(Silence. Shows seen of a future Shinji being considered insane)''
** He also figures out that Leliel!Shinji isn't really him, pointing out that, despite Leliel!Shinji's claims that he was told but repressed the information, he didn't know about Asuka's mother or about Rose, and he wouldn't just repress that, nor could he just pick up on it subconsciously. And that it keeps going from telling him he sucks to telling him he should [[AGodAmI be God]](I am not making that last one up)
* How does the Doctor deal with the [[MindRape 11th Angel]]? [[spoiler: He gets in the way of its beam and shows it his memories, so it knows what he has done and can do]]. The last we see of it, [[spoiler: it's [[ScrewThisImOutOfHere running away]] from Earth (or more accurately, running away from [[HorrifyingTheHorror The Doctor]]) at 20% of light speed. ''And it's accelerating'']]
