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* The penultimate duel between Obi-Wan and Darth Vader. A Sith Lord and a Grand Master of the Jedi Order, both at the height of their powers. [[MightyGlacier An unstoppable force]] meets [[TheDeterminator an unmovable object]].

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* The penultimate duel between Obi-Wan and Darth Vader. A Sith Lord and a Grand Jedi Master of the Jedi Order, both at the height of their powers. [[MightyGlacier An unstoppable force]] meets [[TheDeterminator an unmovable object]].
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* Despite the fact that all Jedi are being hunted, the symbolic HesBack moment is when Obi-Wan starts wearing his lightsaber on his belt again. Better to be ready for a fight than wait for it to jump you first.
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** Owen and Beru keep their blasters hidden, despite the constant threat of attack by Tusken Raiders. Why? Either the Empire or the Hutts refuse to let mere farmers have weapons. But ''they keep the blasters anyway''. Whoever they're standing up to, the Empire or the cartel, the Lars family has gonads of solid beskar.
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* The penultimate duel between Obi-Wan and Darth Vader.

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* The penultimate duel between Obi-Wan and Darth Vader. A Sith Lord and a Grand Master of the Jedi Order, both at the height of their powers. [[MightyGlacier An unstoppable force]] meets [[TheDeterminator an unmovable object]].
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** Speaking of skill, Obi-Wan finally wields his lightsaber like [[HesBack we always knew he could]], using The Force to regain his superior agility to throw Vader off. Even Vader's attempts to block him with the Force don't stop him for long. As Vader remarks with a certain approval, he's regained his former strength.
*** Speaking of which while Ahsoka manage to defeat Vader mentally and took the right side of his helmet, Obi-Wan defeated Vader physically and took the left side of his helmet. (Only Luke took off the entire helmet and defeated Vader both physically and mentally.
** Vader only ever uses two hands to wield his lightsaber when he either wants to end a fight quickly, or begins to take it seriously. Not long into their duel, even before Kenobi’s HeroicSecondWind, he’s seen hastily assuming a two-handed stance and even backing away a bit. Obviously he wasn’t expecting this level of fight in his old master, [[HorrifyingTheHorror and it makes him pretty nervous.]]

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** Speaking of skill, Obi-Wan finally wields his lightsaber like [[HesBack we always knew he could]], using The Force to regain his superior agility to throw Vader off. Even Vader's attempts to block him with the Force don't stop him for long. As Vader remarks with a certain approval, he's regained his former strength.
*** Speaking of which which, while Ahsoka manage managed to defeat Vader mentally and took the right side of his helmet, Obi-Wan defeated Vader physically and took the left side of his helmet. helmet.(Only Luke took off the entire helmet and defeated Vader both physically and mentally.
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** Vader only ever uses two hands to wield his lightsaber when he either wants to end a fight quickly, quickly or begins to take it seriously. Not long into their duel, even before Kenobi’s HeroicSecondWind, he’s seen hastily assuming a two-handed stance and even backing away a bit. Obviously Obviously, he wasn’t expecting this level of fight in his old master, [[HorrifyingTheHorror and it makes him pretty nervous.]]

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** While Luke managed to overpower and disarm Vader in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', he did it through pure rage and by tapping into the Dark Side of the Force. Obi-Wan keeps calm and eventually defeats Darth Vader through pure skill of the Force to shake off his rust and be much quicker than normal.

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** *** While Luke managed to overpower and disarm Vader in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', he did it through pure rage and by tapping into the Dark Side of the Force. Obi-Wan keeps calm and eventually defeats Darth Vader through pure skill of the Force to shake off his rust and be much quicker than normal.


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*** Speaking of which while Ahsoka manage to defeat Vader mentally and took the right side of his helmet, Obi-Wan defeated Vader physically and took the left side of his helmet. (Only Luke took off the entire helmet and defeated Vader both physically and mentally.
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* Despite intially showing to be a shady figure and conman using the Jedi's reputation for his scheme, Haja quickly proves to be a fairly heroic figure as he takes out one of the bounty hunters and gives the duo a means to escape. [[YouShallNotPass While his efforts to stall]] Third Sister fail miserably - at best he distracts her for 50 seconds, at worst he gives her a good idea where to find Obi-Wan - much props for trying.
* While [[NiceJobFixingItVillain it allows Obi-Wan to escape the Inquisitors' clutches]], Reva managing to catch the same Grand Inquistor who gave Kanan and Ezra so much trouble throughout ''[[WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels Rebels]]''' first season off-guard is certainly no mean feat.

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* Despite intially initially showing to be a shady figure and conman using the Jedi's reputation for his scheme, Haja quickly proves to be a fairly heroic figure as he takes out one of the bounty hunters and gives the duo a means to escape. [[YouShallNotPass While his efforts to stall]] Third Sister fail miserably - at best he distracts her for 50 seconds, at worst he gives her a good idea where to find Obi-Wan - much props for trying.
* While [[NiceJobFixingItVillain it allows Obi-Wan to escape the Inquisitors' clutches]], Reva managing to catch the same Grand Inquistor Inquisitor who gave Kanan and Ezra so much trouble throughout ''[[WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels Rebels]]''' first season off-guard is certainly no mean feat.
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* While this series can be credited with making Vader ''scary'' once more in live-action after ''Film/RogueOne'', and reminding us all that you ''do not'' fuck with this man because he can and ''will'' end your existence, it merely takes a short cameo from Palpatine to remind that behind the imposing figure of Vader is something much, ''much'' worse -- Vader has lines he won't cross, unless you're Obi Wan, but the Emperor has no such restraint.

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* While this series can be credited with making Vader ''scary'' once more in live-action after ''Film/RogueOne'', and reminding us all that you ''do not'' fuck with this man because he can and ''will'' end your existence, it merely takes a short cameo from Palpatine to remind that behind the imposing figure of Vader is something much, ''much'' worse -- Vader has lines he won't cross, unless you're Obi Wan, Obi-Wan, but the Emperor has no such restraint.
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* While this series can be credited with making Vader ''scary'' once more in live-action after ''Film/RogueOne'', and reminding us all that you ''do not'' fuck with this man because he can (and ''will'' end your existence), it merely takes a short cameo from Palpatine to remind that behind the imposing figure of Vader is something much, ''much'' worse - Vader has lines he won't cross, unless you're Obi Wan, but the Emperor has no such restraint.

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* While this series can be credited with making Vader ''scary'' once more in live-action after ''Film/RogueOne'', and reminding us all that you ''do not'' fuck with this man because he can (and and ''will'' end your existence), existence, it merely takes a short cameo from Palpatine to remind that behind the imposing figure of Vader is something much, ''much'' worse - -- Vader has lines he won't cross, unless you're Obi Wan, but the Emperor has no such restraint.
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** Speaking of skill, Obi-Wan finally wields his lightsaber like [[HesBack we always knew he could]], using The Force tp regain his superior agility to throw Vader off. Even Vader's attempts to block him with the Force don't stop him for long. As Vader remarks with a certain approval, he's regained his former strength.

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** Speaking of skill, Obi-Wan finally wields his lightsaber like [[HesBack we always knew he could]], using The Force tp to regain his superior agility to throw Vader off. Even Vader's attempts to block him with the Force don't stop him for long. As Vader remarks with a certain approval, he's regained his former strength.
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** Speaking of skill, Obi-Wan finally wields his lightsaber like [[HesBack we always knew he could]], using his superior agility to throw Vader off. Even Vader's attempts to block him with the Force don't stop him for long. As Vader remarks with a certain approval, he's regained his former strength.

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** Speaking of skill, Obi-Wan finally wields his lightsaber like [[HesBack we always knew he could]], using The Force tp regain his superior agility to throw Vader off. Even Vader's attempts to block him with the Force don't stop him for long. As Vader remarks with a certain approval, he's regained his former strength.



** This is all even more impressive given how Vader had been portrayed in the new canon: an unstoppable juggernaut that very few can even hope to stand up to. Obi-Wan is one of the few to ever not only take him head-on and stand his ground, but ''beat him''. And, again, he beat him ''twice'', and didn't just beat him, but ''crippled him'' both times.
** Something else to keep in mind: Obi-Wan is known as a master (or, according to [[Literature/RevengeOfTheSith Mace Windu]], "Not a master. ''The'' master") of Soresu, aka Form III the most defense-oriented style of combat. He defeated Anakin on Mustafar by playing defense until Anakin made that crucial mistake that Obi-Wan countered. For the second half of this duel with Vader, however, Obi-Wan is explicitly on the ''attack'', and he is damn good at it (it should be noted that Obi-Wan was previously terrible at offensive as seen with his fights with Maul and Dooku). It shows just how much he has to win to protect Leia, Luke, and the fleeing refugees.

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** This is all even more impressive given how Vader had been portrayed in the new canon: an unstoppable juggernaut that very few can even hope to stand up to. Obi-Wan is one of the few (besides Anakin's student Ahsoka Tano and his son Luke Skywalker) to ever not only take him head-on and stand his ground, ground but ''beat him''. And, again, he beat him ''twice'', and didn't just beat him, but ''crippled him'' both times.
** Something else to keep in mind: Obi-Wan is known as a master (or, according to [[Literature/RevengeOfTheSith Mace Windu]], "Not a master. ''The'' master") of Soresu, aka Form III the most defense-oriented style of combat. He defeated Anakin on Mustafar by playing defense until Anakin made that crucial mistake that Obi-Wan countered. For the second half of this duel with Vader, however, Obi-Wan is explicitly on the ''attack'', and he is damn good at it (it should be noted that Obi-Wan was previously terrible at offensive as seen with his fights with Maul Sith Lords like Maul, Savage Opress, and Dooku). It shows just how much he has to win to protect Leia, Luke, and the fleeing refugees.
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** While Luke managed to overpower and disarm Vader in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', he did it through pure rage and by tapping into the Dark Side of the Force. Obi-Wan keeps calm and eventually defeats Darth Vader through pure skill.

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** While Luke managed to overpower and disarm Vader in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', he did it through pure rage and by tapping into the Dark Side of the Force. Obi-Wan keeps calm and eventually defeats Darth Vader through pure skill.skill of the Force to shake off his rust and be much quicker than normal.



** Something else to keep in mind: Obi-Wan is known as a master (or, according to [[Literature/RevengeOfTheSith Mace Windu]], "Not a master. ''The'' master") of Soresu, the most defense-oriented style of combat. He defeated Anakin on Mustafar by playing defense until Anakin made that crucial mistake that Obi-Wan countered. For the second half of this duel with Vader, however, Obi-Wan is explicitly on the ''attack'', and he is damn good at it. It shows just how much he has to win to protect Leia, Luke, and the fleeing refugees.

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** Something else to keep in mind: Obi-Wan is known as a master (or, according to [[Literature/RevengeOfTheSith Mace Windu]], "Not a master. ''The'' master") of Soresu, aka Form III the most defense-oriented style of combat. He defeated Anakin on Mustafar by playing defense until Anakin made that crucial mistake that Obi-Wan countered. For the second half of this duel with Vader, however, Obi-Wan is explicitly on the ''attack'', and he is damn good at it.it (it should be noted that Obi-Wan was previously terrible at offensive as seen with his fights with Maul and Dooku). It shows just how much he has to win to protect Leia, Luke, and the fleeing refugees.
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** The Lars don't just hold their own, but even manage to get ''very'' good hits in. Owen happens to nail Reva on the side Vader had just stabbed her and realizes it's a weak point, so he manages to strike her there again before his staff is bisected and he's knocked down to the lower floor, but not without warning Beru. Then, when Reva opens the next door, Beru manages to sucker punch her in the face and down to the floor, before she herself is flipped to the ground. Most moisture farmers are hardened from having to deal with Tusken Raiders, but none can claim to have [[CurbStompCushion done some damage on a Dark Side Force user and survived]] like the Lars can!

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** The Lars don't just hold their own, but even manage to get ''very'' good hits in. Owen happens to nail Reva on the side Vader had just stabbed her and realizes it's a weak point, so he manages to strike her there again before his staff is bisected and he's knocked down to the lower floor, but not without warning Beru. Then, when Reva opens the next door, Beru manages to sucker punch slug her in the face and down to the floor, face, before she herself is flipped to the ground. Most moisture farmers are hardened from having to deal with Tusken Raiders, but none can claim to have [[CurbStompCushion done some damage on a Dark Side Force user and survived]] like the Lars can!
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** The Lars don't just hold their own, but even manage to get ''very'' good hits in. Owen happens to nail Reva on the side Vader had just stabbed her and realizes it's a weak point, so he manages to strike her there again before his staff is bisected and he's knocked down to the lower floor, but not without warning Beru. Then, when Reva opens the next door, Beru manages to sucker punch her in the face and down to the floor, before she herself is flipped to the ground. Most moisture farmers are hardened from having to deal with Tusken Raiders, but none can claim to have [[CurbStompCushion done some damage on a Dark Side Force user and survived]] like the Lars can!

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* While it's both [[{{Tearjerker}} heartbreaking]] and [[NightmareFuel terrifying]], seeing Obi-Wan ignite his lightsaber [[Film/RevengeOfTheSith after]] [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars so]] [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels long]] is a sight to behold. Even better since it's against his former apprentice, [[TheDreaded Darth Vader]] himself.
** Even better from a meta standpoint, since this is the first time that Creator/EwanMcGregor and Creator/HaydenChristensen[[note]] Yes, that '''is''' in fact Hayden that's donning the suit. [[/note]] have clashed in the flesh since ''Revenge of the Sith''.
** While Ben [[CurbStompBattle almost gets]] [[ManOnFire immolated]] for his troubles, he still has it, even after all the time he's spent on Tatooine, seeing as he holds his own pretty well against Vader despite the [[HeroicBSOD inner turmoil]] he's dealing with upon seeing his old apprentice.

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* While it's both [[{{Tearjerker}} heartbreaking]] and [[NightmareFuel terrifying]], seeing Obi-Wan ignite his lightsaber [[Film/RevengeOfTheSith after]] [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars so]] [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels long]] after so long is a sight to behold. Even better since it's against his former apprentice, [[TheDreaded Darth Vader]] himself. \n** Even better from a meta standpoint, since this is the first time that Creator/EwanMcGregor and Creator/HaydenChristensen[[note]] Yes, that '''is''' in fact Hayden that's donning the suit. [[/note]] have clashed in the flesh since ''Revenge of the Sith''. \n** While Ben [[CurbStompBattle almost gets]] [[ManOnFire gets immolated]] for his troubles, he still has it, even after all the time he's spent on Tatooine, seeing as he holds his own pretty well against Vader despite the [[HeroicBSOD inner turmoil]] he's dealing with upon seeing his old apprentice.
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* While this series can be credited with making Vader ''scary'' once more in live-action after ''Film/RogueOne'', and reminding us all that you ''do not'' fuck with this man, it merely takes a short cameo from Palpatine to remind that behind the imposing figure of Vader is something much, ''much'' worse.

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* While this series can be credited with making Vader ''scary'' once more in live-action after ''Film/RogueOne'', and reminding us all that you ''do not'' fuck with this man, man because he can (and ''will'' end your existence), it merely takes a short cameo from Palpatine to remind that behind the imposing figure of Vader is something much, ''much'' worse. worse - Vader has lines he won't cross, unless you're Obi Wan, but the Emperor has no such restraint.
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** This scene has created a retroactive moment of awesomeness for Owen and Beru: in A New Hope, Luke find's their burnt bodies in the aftermath of the attack on the farm. Given the fight they put up against a Dark Side Force user, they almost certainly didn't lay down and die for a bunch of stormtroopers. One particularly amusing theory is that the bodies were burned ''to make sure the pair were actually dead''.
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* Despite intially showing to be a shady figure and conman using the Jedi's reputation for his scheme, Haja quickly proves to be a fairly heroic figure as he takes out one of the bounty hunters and gives the duo a means to escape. [[YouShallNotPass While his efforts to stall]] Third Sister fail miserably, much props for trying.

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* Despite intially showing to be a shady figure and conman using the Jedi's reputation for his scheme, Haja quickly proves to be a fairly heroic figure as he takes out one of the bounty hunters and gives the duo a means to escape. [[YouShallNotPass While his efforts to stall]] Third Sister fail miserably, miserably - at best he distracts her for 50 seconds, at worst he gives her a good idea where to find Obi-Wan - much props for trying.
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** Something else to keep in mind: Obi-Wan is known as a master (or, according to [[Literature/RevengeOfTheSith Mace Windu]], "Not a master. ''The'' master") of Soresu, the most defense-oriented style of combat. He defeated Anakin on Mustafar by playing defense until Anakin made that crucial mistake that Obi-Wan countered. For the second half of this duel with Vader, however, Obi-Wan is explicitly on the ''attack'', and he is damn good at it. It shows just how much he has to win to protect Leia, Luke, and the fleeing refugees.
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* While this series can be credited with making Vader ''scary'' once more in live-action after ''Film/RogueOne'', and reminding us all that you ''do not'' fuck with this man, it takes a short cameo from Palpatine to remind that behind the imposing figure of Vader is something much, ''much'' worse.

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* While this series can be credited with making Vader ''scary'' once more in live-action after ''Film/RogueOne'', and reminding us all that you ''do not'' fuck with this man, it merely takes a short cameo from Palpatine to remind that behind the imposing figure of Vader is something much, ''much'' worse.
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** Speaking of skill, Obi-Wan finally wields his lightsaber like [[HesBack always we knew he could]], using his superior agility to throw Vader off. Even Vader's attempts to block him with the Force don't stop him for long. As Vader remarks with a certain approval, he's regained his former strength.

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** Speaking of skill, Obi-Wan finally wields his lightsaber like [[HesBack we always we knew he could]], using his superior agility to throw Vader off. Even Vader's attempts to block him with the Force don't stop him for long. As Vader remarks with a certain approval, he's regained his former strength.
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* While initially making it clear they're not soldiers and offer mostly intel, the members of the Path saving the heroes with airspeeders (which they claim are only used to transport sewage, of all things) is nothing short of amazement.

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* While initially making it clear they're not soldiers and offer mostly intel, the members of the Path saving the heroes with airspeeders (which they claim are only used to transport sewage, of all things) is nothing short of amazement.amazing.
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* While it’s both tragic and horrifying because of the state he’s in, seeing Vader’s iconic armor being assembled around him while echoes of the past ring in his and Kenobi’s ears is nothing short of a spectacle.

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* While it’s both tragic and horrifying because of the state he’s in, seeing Vader’s iconic armor being assembled around him while echoes of the past ring in his and Kenobi’s ears is nothing short of a spectacle. For those who have been fans since the original trilogy, the iconic sound of the seals initiating serves as an unmistakeable punctuation mark that we are now in the era of the fully-fledged Darth Vader.
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** In the meantime, Leia demonstrates that she inherited both her mother's cool under pressure and her father's GadgeteerGenius talents, the latter usually being more evident in her brother. She unhesitatingly volunteers to go up into the vents to fix the sabotage on the hangar doors, figuring out the problem with Lola (who'd been whacked with a restraining bolt by Reva), and fixing the sabotage without losing her cool for one moment. All while the base is under heavy assault from Reva, the Empire, and, oh yes, ''Darth Vader himself''. LittleMissBadass indeed -- not that you'd expect anything less.

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** In the meantime, Leia demonstrates that she inherited both her mother's [[NervesOfSteel cool under pressure pressure]] and her father's GadgeteerGenius talents, the latter usually being more evident in her brother. She unhesitatingly volunteers to go up into the vents to fix the sabotage on the hangar doors, figuring out the problem with Lola (who'd been whacked with a restraining bolt by Reva), and fixing the sabotage without losing her cool for one moment. All while the base is under heavy assault from Reva, the Empire, and, oh yes, ''Darth Vader himself''. LittleMissBadass indeed -- not that you'd expect anything less.
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*** Again, note that Vader never draws ''his'' lightsaber, he uses half of Reva's double-bladed Inquisitor lightsaber. Many sources state that a Jedi or Sith has a special bond with the lightsaber they've built themselves, that they fight much more effectively with that weapon than any other. Vader using ''Reva[='=]s'' lightsaber to hand her a beatdown is just part of the demonstration that she never, ''ever'' stood any chance against him whatsoever.
*** And this whole thing was all according to plan. Letting Reva nab as much rope as she wanted, until she had more than enough to hang herself in grand style. Darth Vader has long been considered to be utterly incapable of subtlety, but he knew all along what Reva's endgame was and was just waiting for the right time to completely demolish it most brutally. Apparently just because [[ItAmusedMe he thought it would be interesting]].
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** If you listen close (or have subtitles turned on) Vader's [[VaderBreath mechanical breathing]] becomes strained as he does this. He's channeling enough power to strain and possibly damage his life-support suit. Still does it.
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* After Reva opens the door with her lightsaber, Obi-Wan throws her through the air into the midst of her troops. Force wielders ordinarily don't try things like that, because an opponent of equal strength can neutralize it, so it all comes down to dueling, throwing objects, and maybe lightning if you're Dark. Obi-Wan getting lifted by Vader was unusual for precisely that reason. Obi-Wan throwing Reva like a ragdoll shows that HesBack, baby!

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* After Reva opens the door with her lightsaber, Obi-Wan throws her through the air into the midst of her troops. Force wielders ordinarily don't try things like that, because an opponent of equal strength can neutralize it, so it all comes down to dueling, throwing objects, and maybe lightning if you're Dark. Obi-Wan getting lifted by Vader was unusual for precisely that reason. Obi-Wan throwing Reva like a ragdoll shows that HesBack, baby!baby! A mere Inquisitor is ''nothing'' compared to a full-fledged Jedi Master.
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* The way the show uses cinematography, music, and Hayden Christensen’s nonverbal performance to sell how ''absolutely livid'' Vader is on Mapuzo. Even before he speaks a word, you can tell how much rage and hate is bubbling just under that mask.

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* The way the show uses cinematography, music, and Hayden Christensen’s nonverbal performance to sell how ''absolutely livid'' Vader is on Mapuzo. Even before he speaks a word, you can tell how much rage and hate is bubbling just under that mask. And as we all know, rage and hate are key to the Dark Side, meaning Vader is probably at the most dangerous he's ever been.

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