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It's impossible to get the full truth about every character in a single playthrough, so you're bound to have at least a few.

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It's impossible to get the full truth about every character in a single playthrough, playthrough in ''VisualNovel/LongLiveTheQueen'', so you're bound to have at [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation least a few.
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* The Duchess of Lillah is a noblewoman of such influence and political power that she can threaten Elodie's reign just by prominently ''existing''. Her family is so huge that almost every major interaction with Nova's nobility is at least indirectly connected to her, and gaining or losing her approval informs a number of events in the second half of the game. ''However'', many events in her backstory may imply that despite her poise, Kevan actually gets his hot-blooded attitude from her. [[spoiler:It's possible that if Elodie finds out the Duchess is in a position to raise a rebellion against her and may actually do it, Sabine can tell her it's actually just the Duchess holding a personal grudge.]]

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* The Duchess of Lillah is a noblewoman of such influence and political power that she can threaten Elodie's reign just by prominently ''existing''. Her family is so huge that almost every major interaction with Nova's nobility is at least indirectly connected to her, and gaining or losing her approval informs a number of events in the second half of the game. ''However'', many events in her backstory may imply that despite her poise, Kevan actually gets his hot-blooded attitude from her. [[spoiler:It's possible that if Elodie finds out [[spoiler:In one instance what Elodie's agents take as the Duchess is in a position to raise a preparing for rebellion against her and may actually do it, Sabine can tell her it's actually turn out, on further investigation by Sabine, to just the Duchess holding a personal grudge.be seething over losing custody of Adair.]]
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** Or, [[spoiler:Togami might be a {{Jerkass}} in general who's still capable of being a loving husband and father, something that can resonate with a sweet girl like Charlotte, unlike the prior owner of the other crystal Charlotte can try to bond with, who came to Elodie's attention because he murdered his wife]].

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** Or, [[spoiler:Togami might be a {{Jerkass}} in general who's still capable of [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes being a loving husband and father, father]], something that can resonate with a sweet girl like Charlotte, unlike the prior owner of the other crystal Charlotte can try to bond with, who came to Elodie's attention because he murdered his wife]].
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* As noted in the page quote, Charlotte may get one in-universe. [[spoiler: She can inherit Togami's Lumen crystal. Elodie convinces herself it must have something to do with the dueling ritual because her dear cousin couldn't possibly have anything in common with a power-hungry mustache-twirling villain who wants to take over the world... right?]]

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* As noted in the page quote, Charlotte may get one in-universe. [[spoiler: She [[spoiler:She can inherit Togami's Lumen crystal. Elodie convinces herself it must have something to do with the dueling ritual because her dear cousin couldn't possibly have anything in common with a power-hungry mustache-twirling villain who wants to take over the world... right?]]



** In any case, [[spoiler: Togami says that a crystal's resonance can be changed. After the duel, his crystal is said to be tinged with pink. Pink is the color of Elodie's crystal. If Joslyn wins the duel, Togami's crystal is said to be tinged with blue, like Joslyn's crystal. It's very possible the duel in the carefully warded circle ''did'' change the resonance of Togami's crystal to be closer to that of the Lumen who defeated him. Charlotte gets the crystal when it's tinged with pink. Charlotte may or may not be able to bond with Togami's crystal alone, but she probably would be able to bond with a crystal that had a resonance similar to that of her favorite cousin.]]

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** In any case, [[spoiler: Togami [[spoiler:Togami says that a crystal's resonance can be changed. After the duel, his crystal is said to be tinged with pink. Pink is the color of Elodie's crystal. If Joslyn wins the duel, Togami's crystal is said to be tinged with blue, like Joslyn's crystal. It's very possible the duel in the carefully warded carefully-warded circle ''did'' change the resonance of Togami's crystal to be closer to that of the Lumen who defeated him. Charlotte gets the crystal when it's tinged with pink. And the ''other'' Lumen crystal that Elodie can wrest from its former owner (namely, the crystal that belonged to the wife-strangler) was ''not'' gained in a duel the way Togami's was. Charlotte may or may not be able to bond with Togami's crystal alone, but she probably would be able to bond with a crystal that had a resonance similar to that of her favorite cousin.]]



** Kevan's history with his stepfather. [[spoiler: The game says he was "seduced", but his extreme and traumatized reactions (and his implied age at the time) would indicate he was being sexually abused. Based on his relationship with his sister, was he being forcibly abused, or did his stepfather take advantage of him by exploiting a budding fetish for incest?]]
* The Duchess of Lillah is a noblewoman of such influence and political power that she can threaten Elodie's reign just by prominently ''existing''. Her family is so huge that almost every major interaction with Nova's nobility is at least indirectly connected to her, and gaining or losing her approval informs a number of events in the second half of the game. ''However'', many events in her backstory may imply that despite her poise, Kevan actually gets his hot-blooded attitude from her. [[spoiler: It's possible that if Elodie finds out the Duchess is in a position to raise a rebellion against her and may actually do it, Sabine can tell her it's actually just the Duchess holding a personal grudge.]]

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** Kevan's history with his stepfather. [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The game says he was "seduced", but his extreme and traumatized reactions (and his implied age at the time) would indicate he was being sexually abused. Based on his relationship with his sister, was he being forcibly abused, or did his stepfather take advantage of him by exploiting a budding fetish for incest?]]
* The Duchess of Lillah is a noblewoman of such influence and political power that she can threaten Elodie's reign just by prominently ''existing''. Her family is so huge that almost every major interaction with Nova's nobility is at least indirectly connected to her, and gaining or losing her approval informs a number of events in the second half of the game. ''However'', many events in her backstory may imply that despite her poise, Kevan actually gets his hot-blooded attitude from her. [[spoiler: It's [[spoiler:It's possible that if Elodie finds out the Duchess is in a position to raise a rebellion against her and may actually do it, Sabine can tell her it's actually just the Duchess holding a personal grudge.]]



* Julianna states that her duty is to magic and Nova itself, not the mortal queens. That alone causes some people to question how helpful she is as a mentor to Elodie, but considering how tied the well-being of the country is the queen's choices and abilities, some think that her attitude towards Elodie causes her to not serve Nova's interests as well as she thinks she does. Her statement about how "queens die, the magic must not" also makes a few people question her feelings towards recently-deceased Fidelia, who was supposed to have been her friend. However, a possible conversation in the 1.3 version suggests that Julianna [[CynicismCatalyst blames herself for not preventing Fidelia's death]], which may be why she has so much difficulty relating to Elodie.

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* Julianna states that her duty is to magic and Nova itself, not the mortal queens. That alone causes some people to question how helpful she is as a mentor to Elodie, but considering how tied the well-being of the country is to the queen's choices and abilities, some think that her attitude towards Elodie causes her to not serve Nova's interests as well as she thinks she does. Her statement about how "queens die, the magic must not" also makes a few people question her feelings towards recently-deceased Fidelia, who was supposed to have been her friend. However, a possible conversation in the 1.3 version suggests that Julianna [[CynicismCatalyst blames herself for not preventing Fidelia's death]], which may be why she has so much difficulty relating to Elodie.



** Especially in [[LetsPlay Let's Plays]] and the comments of Let's Plays, it's not uncommon for Talarist's flattery of Elodie and his interest in marrying her to be interpreted as personal interest in the fourteen-year-old princess herself (and thus him being labelled a "pedophile"). WordOfGod [[http://steamcommunity.com/app/251990/discussions/0/648814844821751391/#c648814844828315320 says it's all about her title and not about Elodie]], but that quote is neither well-publicized [[DeathOfTheAuthor nor in the game itself]]. It doesn't help that Elodie's father Joslyn asks Talarist if he has any idea of Elodie's age and seems disgusted at the idea of them having any physical contact (and tries to push Elodie in the direction of the more age-appropriate sons of the Duke of Kigal at the gala if Talarist isn't around). [[note]]Talarist's scenes are also very easy to trigger, often the result of an early failed Court Manners test. Because of this, a lot of new players end up seeing his proposal and not many of the other romance options, usually including the older and more underhanded Banion. And with the still-older romance options (Kevan, Brin, Ignatius), Elodie's the one to do most if not all of the pursuing.[[/note]]
** It's established pretty firmly that Talarist wants a spot in Nova's nobility for whatever reason, and although it's impossible to say for certain whether he gave the order himself, he's got agents in Nova to do his dirty work. [[spoiler: It's also pretty clear that he's behind Adair's assassination, since that assassination won't happen if he's engaged to Elodie, even if she sends him to live with his grandfather.]]
** His first interaction with Elodie tends to imply a certain shrewdness on his part. The necklace he sends is a courting gift, but the letter that comes with says that it's a gift to express ''condolences for Fidelia's death'', and without the right Court Manners skills, Elodie takes that at face value and it cheers her up. It's easy to interpret that is a greedy swipe at her title using Elodie's grief as a trap.

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** Especially in [[LetsPlay Let's Plays]] and the comments of Let's Plays, it's not uncommon for Talarist's flattery of Elodie and his interest in marrying her to be interpreted as personal interest in the fourteen-year-old princess herself (and thus [[PaedoHunt him being labelled a "pedophile")."pedophile"]]). WordOfGod [[http://steamcommunity.com/app/251990/discussions/0/648814844821751391/#c648814844828315320 says it's all about her title and not about Elodie]], but that quote is neither well-publicized [[DeathOfTheAuthor nor in the game itself]]. It doesn't help that Elodie's father Joslyn asks Talarist if he has any idea of Elodie's age and seems disgusted at the idea of them having any physical contact (and tries to push Elodie in the direction of the more age-appropriate sons of the Duke of Kigal at the gala if Talarist isn't around). [[note]]Talarist's scenes are also very easy to trigger, often the result of an early failed Court Manners test. Because of this, a lot of new players end up seeing his proposal and not many of the other romance options, usually including the older and more underhanded Banion. And with the still-older romance options (Kevan, Brin, Ignatius), Elodie's the one to do most if not all of the pursuing.[[/note]]
** It's established pretty firmly that Talarist wants a spot in Nova's nobility for whatever reason, and although it's impossible to say for certain whether he gave the order himself, he's got agents in Nova to do his dirty work. [[spoiler: It's [[spoiler:It's also pretty clear that he's behind Adair's assassination, since that assassination won't happen if he's engaged to Elodie, even if she sends him to live with his grandfather.]]
** His first interaction with Elodie tends to imply a certain shrewdness on his part. The necklace he sends is a courting gift, but the letter that comes with it says that it's a gift to express ''condolences for Fidelia's death'', and without the right Court Manners skills, Elodie takes that at face value and it cheers her up. It's easy to interpret that is as a greedy swipe at her title using Elodie's grief as a trap.



-->Is he actively planning to have you killed? No. However... Laurent is an adult fully aware of the dangers and difficulties of politics. With everything that [[spoiler:Lucille]] is up to, Laurent really ought to at least be suspicious. So either he's a complete idiot and doesn't notice anything, or he's choosing not to pay attention. That doesn't mean he's evil. He could be so love-struck that he really doesn't want to notice anything odd that [[spoiler: his wife]] does. He could be so depressed by his sister's death that he doesn't care about anything anymore. [[spoiler:His wife]] could be drugging or magicing him into doing [[spoiler:her]] bidding. There's no way for Elodie to know.
* Adair's father Fabian, the elderly Earl of Titan. By default, if Elodie speaks with him at the gala he's a kindly grandfatherly type who thanks her for thinking of him and the welfare of his son even if she utterly flubs her Court Manners check. If you dance with Adair beforehand, though, you're reminded that Adair's mother was a teenage girl a third of his age (and pressured into marrying so young by her father) as he reminisces about "[[WifeHusbandry training]]" her.

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-->Is he actively planning to have you killed? No. However... Laurent is an adult fully aware of the dangers and difficulties of politics. With everything that [[spoiler:Lucille]] is up to, Laurent really ought to at least be suspicious. So either he's a complete idiot and doesn't notice anything, or he's choosing not to pay attention. That doesn't mean he's evil. He could be so love-struck that he really doesn't want to notice anything odd that [[spoiler: his [[spoiler:his wife]] does. He could be so depressed by his sister's death that he doesn't care about anything anymore. [[spoiler:His wife]] could be drugging or magicing him into doing [[spoiler:her]] bidding. There's no way for Elodie to know.
* Adair's father Fabian, the elderly Earl of Titan. By default, if Elodie speaks with him at the gala gala, he's a kindly grandfatherly type who thanks her for thinking of him and the welfare of his son even if she utterly flubs her Court Manners check. If you dance with Adair beforehand, though, you're reminded that Adair's mother was a teenage girl a third of his age (and pressured into marrying so young by her father) as he reminisces about "[[WifeHusbandry training]]" her.



* The AmbiguouslyBi nature of [[spoiler: Lucille]] and what that implies for her marriage. [[spoiler: If Lucille is caught trying to kill Elodie and isn't killed herself, she almost always murders Laurent. Combined with her scoffing that Laurent has no backbone if Elodie accuses him of sending assassins,]] there's plenty of evidence that suggests that she married him for his title and possibly to produce a child, not out of any real feelings on her part.

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* The AmbiguouslyBi nature of [[spoiler: Lucille]] [[spoiler:Lucille]] and what that implies for her marriage. [[spoiler: If [[spoiler:If Lucille is caught trying to kill Elodie and isn't killed herself, she almost always murders Laurent. Combined with her scoffing that Laurent has no backbone if Elodie accuses him of sending assassins,]] there's plenty of evidence that suggests that she married him for his title and possibly to produce a child, not out of any real feelings on her part.
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* Speaking of Arisse and Kevan, [[spoiler:was she a straight-up MamaBear acting to protect Kevan from Jael even if he didn't think he needed protecting, or did her "horrified rejection" upon Thaddeus's discovery mean she blamed Kevan as well?]].

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* Speaking of Arisse and Kevan, [[spoiler:was she a straight-up MamaBear acting to protect Kevan from Jael even if he didn't think he needed protecting, or did her "horrified rejection" upon Thaddeus's discovery mean she blamed Kevan as well?]].well?]]
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* Brin, the Duchess of Hellas, a lesbian with a string of relationships-gone-bad behind her, who still wears flowers in her hair and will openly object to being punished for causing an international incident unless Elodie can find a way to turn it to her advantage. The way the story plays out (and the backbiting nature of her brother backing her up) it suggests that her "challenging" nature is really just being an immature, spoiled brat, but it may also be that her aggression against Ixion was more of a way to gain a stronger power base without having to secure an advantageous marriage to a man.

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* Brin, the Duchess of Hellas, a lesbian with a string of relationships-gone-bad behind her, who still wears flowers in her hair and will openly object to being punished for causing an international incident unless Elodie can find a way to turn it to her advantage. The way the story plays out (and the backbiting nature of her brother backing her up) it suggests that her "challenging" nature is really just being an immature, spoiled brat, but it may also be that her aggression against Ixion was more of a way to gain a stronger power base without having to secure an advantageous marriage to a man.man.
* The AmbiguouslyBi nature of [[spoiler: Lucille]] and what that implies for her marriage. [[spoiler: If Lucille is caught trying to kill Elodie and isn't killed herself, she almost always murders Laurent. Combined with her scoffing that Laurent has no backbone if Elodie accuses him of sending assassins,]] there's plenty of evidence that suggests that she married him for his title and possibly to produce a child, not out of any real feelings on her part.
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** His first interaction with Elodie tends to imply a certain shrewdness on his part. The necklace he sends is a courting gift, but the letter that comes with says that it's a gift to express ''condolences for Fidelia's death'', and without the right Court Manners skills, Elodie takes that at face value and it cheers her up. It's easy to interpret that is a greedy swipe at her title using Elodie's grief as a trap.
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*** Whether or not he's suggesting another relative is up for debate. Elodie seems to think that he is, but he never actually says [[spoiler:Adele]] would be an appropriate guardian. [[spoiler:He says that Adair is as close to Arisse's younger children as siblings, and points out his favorite stepsister Adele as a specific example.]] Since she's a legal adult, Fabian may have been making a subtle suggestion in her direction, or he might have intended to use her and Adair's close relationship as further proof that staying under Arisse's guardianship was the best option for his son.

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*** Whether or not he's suggesting another relative is up for debate. Elodie seems to think that he is, but he never actually says [[spoiler:Adele]] would be an appropriate guardian. [[spoiler:He says that Adair is as close to Arisse's younger children as siblings, and points out his favorite stepsister Adele as a specific example.]] Since she's a legal adult, Fabian may have been making a subtle suggestion in her direction, or he might have intended to use her and Adair's close relationship as further proof that staying under Arisse's guardianship was the best option for his son.son.
* Brin, the Duchess of Hellas, a lesbian with a string of relationships-gone-bad behind her, who still wears flowers in her hair and will openly object to being punished for causing an international incident unless Elodie can find a way to turn it to her advantage. The way the story plays out (and the backbiting nature of her brother backing her up) it suggests that her "challenging" nature is really just being an immature, spoiled brat, but it may also be that her aggression against Ixion was more of a way to gain a stronger power base without having to secure an advantageous marriage to a man.
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** It's established pretty firmly that Talarist wants a spot in Nova's nobility for whatever reason, and although it's impossible to say for certain whether he gave the order himself, he's got agents in Nova to do his dirty work. [[spoiler: It's also pretty clear that he's behind Adair's assassination, since that assassination won't happen if he's engaged to Elodie, even if she sends him to live with his grandfather.]]
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* Is Talarist a generally decent, perhaps even slightly ''progressive'', person by the standards of his position and are most of his less savory actions explainable by the dangerous political climate he lives in (for example, reacting to insults to avoid showing a sign of weakness or honestly needing heirs for his territory)? Or is he a fair-weather friend at best who only cares about himself and [[BitchInSheepsClothing whose polite exterior hides a very ugly interior]]? [[TakeAThirdOption Do both interpretations have elements of truth to them?]] The fact that the game doesn't reveal much about the political climate of his home country or [[spoiler:whether or not he's behind Adair's death]] makes it harder to say for sure.

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* Is Talarist a generally decent, perhaps even slightly ''progressive'', person by the standards of his position and are most of his less savory actions explainable by the dangerous political climate he lives in (for example, reacting to insults to avoid showing a sign of weakness or honestly needing heirs for his territory)? Or is he a fair-weather friend at best who only cares about himself and [[BitchInSheepsClothing whose polite exterior hides a very ugly interior]]? [[TakeAThirdOption Do both interpretations have elements of truth to them?]] The fact that the game doesn't reveal much about the political climate of his home country or [[spoiler:whether or not he's behind Adair's death]] makes it harder to say for sure. Making it more complicated rather than easier is the fact that one of the game tips clearly says that a marriage with Talarist would be very favourable for everyone involved and that, even if he is only interested in getting power, an eventual marriage with Elodie does work out very positively for the two of them, suggesting he would warm up for her if he didn't already personally like her beforehand.
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*** Another possible factor in his desire to put Adair on the throne would be that Elath's line would receive security from marrying into the royal family. While Adair as king ''would'' secure a crown for Fabian's bloodline, Adair is the last of Elath's current line and, [[spoiler:as seen as what happens to him if he's left with his grandfather and Elodie is not engaged to Talarist]], the danger he's in is very real. While it's not explicit just how Fabian feels about [[spoiler:the rumors of Sednan agents being behind the deaths of Adair's grandmother and aunt]], ''somebody'' in Talasse understands the implications, because [[spoiler:Talarist will always institute high tariffs on the border if Elodie and Adair become engaged]].

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*** Another possible factor in his desire to put Adair on the throne would be that Elath's line would receive security from marrying into the royal family. While Adair as king ''would'' secure a crown for Fabian's bloodline, Adair is the last of Elath's current line and, [[spoiler:as seen as what happens to him if he's left with his grandfather and Elodie is not engaged to Talarist]], the danger he's in is very real. While it's not explicit just how Fabian feels about [[spoiler:the rumors of Sednan agents being behind the deaths of Adair's grandmother and aunt]], ''somebody'' in Talasse understands the implications, because [[spoiler:Talarist will always institute high tariffs on the border if Elodie and Adair become engaged]].engaged]].
*** Whether or not he's suggesting another relative is up for debate. Elodie seems to think that he is, but he never actually says [[spoiler:Adele]] would be an appropriate guardian. [[spoiler:He says that Adair is as close to Arisse's younger children as siblings, and points out his favorite stepsister Adele as a specific example.]] Since she's a legal adult, Fabian may have been making a subtle suggestion in her direction, or he might have intended to use her and Adair's close relationship as further proof that staying under Arisse's guardianship was the best option for his son.
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** Especially in [[LetsPlay Let's Plays]] and the comments of Let's Plays, it's not uncommon for Talarist's flattery of Elodie and his interest in marrying her to be interpreted as personal interest in the fourteen-year-old princess herself (and thus him being labelled a "pedophile"). WordOfGod [[http://steamcommunity.com/app/251990/discussions/0/648814844821751391/#c648814844828315320 says it's all about her title and not about Elodie]], but that quote is neither well-publicized [[DeathOfTheAuthor nor in the game itself]]. It doesn't help that Elodie's father Joslyn asks Talarist if he has any idea of Elodie's age and seems disgusted at the idea of them having any physical contact (and tries to push Elodie in the direction of the more age-appropriate sons of Kigal at the gala if Talarist isn't around). [[note]]Talarist's scenes are also very easy to trigger, often the result of an early failed Court Manners test. Because of this, a lot of new players end up seeing his proposal and not many of the other romance options, usually including the older and more underhanded Banion.[[/note]]

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** Especially in [[LetsPlay Let's Plays]] and the comments of Let's Plays, it's not uncommon for Talarist's flattery of Elodie and his interest in marrying her to be interpreted as personal interest in the fourteen-year-old princess herself (and thus him being labelled a "pedophile"). WordOfGod [[http://steamcommunity.com/app/251990/discussions/0/648814844821751391/#c648814844828315320 says it's all about her title and not about Elodie]], but that quote is neither well-publicized [[DeathOfTheAuthor nor in the game itself]]. It doesn't help that Elodie's father Joslyn asks Talarist if he has any idea of Elodie's age and seems disgusted at the idea of them having any physical contact (and tries to push Elodie in the direction of the more age-appropriate sons of the Duke of Kigal at the gala if Talarist isn't around). [[note]]Talarist's scenes are also very easy to trigger, often the result of an early failed Court Manners test. Because of this, a lot of new players end up seeing his proposal and not many of the other romance options, usually including the older and more underhanded Banion. And with the still-older romance options (Kevan, Brin, Ignatius), Elodie's the one to do most if not all of the pursuing.[[/note]]
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** Especially in [[LetsPlay Let's Plays]] and the comments of Let's Plays, it's not uncommon for Talarist's flattery of Elodie and his interest in marrying her to be interpreted as personal interest in the fourteen-year-old princess herself (and thus him being labelled a "pedo"). WordOfGod [[http://steamcommunity.com/app/251990/discussions/0/648814844821751391/#c648814844828315320 says it's all about her title and not about Elodie]], but that quote is neither well-publicized [[DeathOfTheAuthor nor in the game itself]]. [[note]]A possible reason why he gets this more than Banion (who's also forward in courting Elodie, as well as older and more underhanded in his attempts) is because a lot of Let's Players and their viewers tend to be relatively new to the game, and more skill checks are failed rather than passed. Meeting Talarist usually results from an early failed Court Manners skill check. Triggering a lot of Banion's attempts to pressure Elodie into an engagement requires an early ''successful'' Foreign Affairs check. It's simply easier to be proposed to by Talarist than to be put in a compromising position by Banion.[[/note]]

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** Especially in [[LetsPlay Let's Plays]] and the comments of Let's Plays, it's not uncommon for Talarist's flattery of Elodie and his interest in marrying her to be interpreted as personal interest in the fourteen-year-old princess herself (and thus him being labelled a "pedo")."pedophile"). WordOfGod [[http://steamcommunity.com/app/251990/discussions/0/648814844821751391/#c648814844828315320 says it's all about her title and not about Elodie]], but that quote is neither well-publicized [[DeathOfTheAuthor nor in the game itself]]. [[note]]A possible reason why he gets this more than Banion (who's also forward in courting Elodie, as well as older and more underhanded in his attempts) is because a lot of Let's Players and their viewers tend to be relatively new to the game, and more skill checks are failed rather than passed. Meeting It doesn't help that Elodie's father Joslyn asks Talarist usually results from if he has any idea of Elodie's age and seems disgusted at the idea of them having any physical contact (and tries to push Elodie in the direction of the more age-appropriate sons of Kigal at the gala if Talarist isn't around). [[note]]Talarist's scenes are also very easy to trigger, often the result of an early failed Court Manners skill check. Triggering test. Because of this, a lot of Banion's attempts to pressure Elodie into an engagement requires an early ''successful'' Foreign Affairs check. It's simply easier to be proposed to by Talarist than to be put in a compromising position by new players end up seeing his proposal and not many of the other romance options, usually including the older and more underhanded Banion.[[/note]][[/note]]



* [[http://hanakoforum.nfshost.com/community/viewtopic.php?p=11094#p11094 Regarding Laurent]], from [[WordOfGod Hanako of Hanako Games herself]]:

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* [[http://hanakoforum.nfshost.com/community/viewtopic.php?p=11094#p11094 Regarding Laurent]], from in [[WordOfGod Hanako the Words of Hanako Games herself]]:God]]:
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** Especially in [[LetsPlay Let's Plays]] and the comments of Let's Plays, it's not uncommon for Talarist's flattery of Elodie and his interest in marrying her to be interpreted as personal interest in the fourteen-year-old princess herself (and thus him being labelled a "pedo"). WordOfGod [[http://steamcommunity.com/app/251990/discussions/0/648814844821751391/#c648814844828315320 says it's all about her title and not about Elodie]], but that quote is neither well-publicized [[DeathOfTheAuthor nor in the game itself]]. [[note]]A possible reason why he gets this more than Banion (who's also forward in courting Elodie, as well as older and more underhanded in his attempts) is because a lot of Let's Players and their viewers tend to be relatively new to the game, when more skill checks are failed than passed. Meeting Talarist usually results from an early failed Court Manners skill check. Triggering a lot of Banion's attempts to pressure Elodie into an engagement requires an early ''successful'' Foreign Affairs check. It's simply easier to be proposed to by Talarist than to be put in a compromising position by Banion.[[/note]]

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** Especially in [[LetsPlay Let's Plays]] and the comments of Let's Plays, it's not uncommon for Talarist's flattery of Elodie and his interest in marrying her to be interpreted as personal interest in the fourteen-year-old princess herself (and thus him being labelled a "pedo"). WordOfGod [[http://steamcommunity.com/app/251990/discussions/0/648814844821751391/#c648814844828315320 says it's all about her title and not about Elodie]], but that quote is neither well-publicized [[DeathOfTheAuthor nor in the game itself]]. [[note]]A possible reason why he gets this more than Banion (who's also forward in courting Elodie, as well as older and more underhanded in his attempts) is because a lot of Let's Players and their viewers tend to be relatively new to the game, when and more skill checks are failed rather than passed. Meeting Talarist usually results from an early failed Court Manners skill check. Triggering a lot of Banion's attempts to pressure Elodie into an engagement requires an early ''successful'' Foreign Affairs check. It's simply easier to be proposed to by Talarist than to be put in a compromising position by Banion.[[/note]]
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** Especially in [[LetsPlay Let's Plays]] and the comments of Let's Plays, it's not uncommon for Talarist's flattery of Elodie and his interest in marrying her to be interpreted as personal interest in the fourteen-year-old princess herself (and thus him being labelled a "pedo"). WordOfGod [[http://steamcommunity.com/app/251990/discussions/0/648814844821751391/#c648814844828315320 says it's all about her title and not about Elodie]], but that quote is neither well-publicized [[DeathOfTheAuthor nor in the game itself]].

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** Especially in [[LetsPlay Let's Plays]] and the comments of Let's Plays, it's not uncommon for Talarist's flattery of Elodie and his interest in marrying her to be interpreted as personal interest in the fourteen-year-old princess herself (and thus him being labelled a "pedo"). WordOfGod [[http://steamcommunity.com/app/251990/discussions/0/648814844821751391/#c648814844828315320 says it's all about her title and not about Elodie]], but that quote is neither well-publicized [[DeathOfTheAuthor nor in the game itself]]. [[note]]A possible reason why he gets this more than Banion (who's also forward in courting Elodie, as well as older and more underhanded in his attempts) is because a lot of Let's Players and their viewers tend to be relatively new to the game, when more skill checks are failed than passed. Meeting Talarist usually results from an early failed Court Manners skill check. Triggering a lot of Banion's attempts to pressure Elodie into an engagement requires an early ''successful'' Foreign Affairs check. It's simply easier to be proposed to by Talarist than to be put in a compromising position by Banion.[[/note]]
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** Especially in [[LetsPlay Let's Plays]] and the comments of Let's Plays, it's not uncommon for Talarist's flattery of Elodie and his interest in marrying her to be interpreted as personal interest in the fourteen-year-old princess herself (and thus him being labelled a "pedo"). WordOfGod [[http://steamcommunity.com/app/251990/discussions/0/648814844821751391/#c648814844828315320 says it's all about her title and not about Elodie]], but that quote is neither well-publicized [[DeathOfTheAuthor nor in the game itself]].
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** In any case, [[spoiler: Togami says that a crystal's resonance can be changed. After the duel, his crystal is said to be tinged with pink. Pink is the color of Elodie's crystal. If Joslyn wins the duel, Togami's crystal is said to be tinged with blue, like Joslyn's crystal. It's very possible the duel in the carefully warded circle ''did'' change the resonance of Togami's crystal to be closer to that of the Lumen who defeated him. Charlotte gets the crystal when it's tinged with pink. Regardless of what she may or may not have in common with Togami, she probably would be able to bond with a crystal that had a resonance similar to that of her favorite cousin.]]

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** In any case, [[spoiler: Togami says that a crystal's resonance can be changed. After the duel, his crystal is said to be tinged with pink. Pink is the color of Elodie's crystal. If Joslyn wins the duel, Togami's crystal is said to be tinged with blue, like Joslyn's crystal. It's very possible the duel in the carefully warded circle ''did'' change the resonance of Togami's crystal to be closer to that of the Lumen who defeated him. Charlotte gets the crystal when it's tinged with pink. Regardless of what she Charlotte may or may not have in common be able to bond with Togami, Togami's crystal alone, but she probably would be able to bond with a crystal that had a resonance similar to that of her favorite cousin.]]
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** In any case, [[spoiler: Togami says that a crystal's resonance can be changed. After the duel, his crystal is said to be tinged with pink. Pink is the color of Elodie's crystal. If Joslyn wins the duel, Togami's crystal is said to be tinged with blue, like Joslyn's crystal. It's very possible the duel in the carefully warded circle ''did'' change the resonance of Togami's crystal to be closer to that of the Lumen who defeated him. Charlotte gets the crystal when it's tinged with pink. Regardless of what she may or may not have in common with Togami, she probably would be able to bond with a crystal that had a resonance similar to that of her favorite cousin.]]
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** Or, [[spoiler:Togami might be a {{Jerkass}} in general who's still capable of being a loving husband and father, something that can resonate with a sweet girl like Charlotte, unlike the prior owner of the other crystal Charlotte can try to bond with, who came to Elodie's attention because he murdered his wife]].
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** And an alternate interpretation of ''that'' scene is that [[spoiler:Togami isn't quite as evil as the narrative makes him out to be, and he's really only a WellIntentionedExtremist out to conquer the world "for its own good," so to speak. The fact that you can talk him down through song and an appeal to his love of his family would seem to also support this.]]
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* Does Alice only end up with a cruel Elodie because she's too scared of what will happen if she doesn't go along with what her queen wants, or she is just a shy NightmareFetishist who's turned on by Elodie's cruelty and willingly enters into a relationship with her? WordOfGod [[http://hanakoforum.nfshost.com/community/viewtopic.php?p=16427#p16427 seems to hint at the former]], though some read it as the latter.

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* Does Alice only end up with a cruel Elodie because she's too scared of what will happen if she doesn't go along with what her queen wants, or she is just a shy shy, masochistic NightmareFetishist who's turned on by Elodie's cruelty and willingly enters into a relationship with her? WordOfGod [[http://hanakoforum.nfshost.com/community/viewtopic.php?p=16427#p16427 seems to hint at the former]], though some read it as the latter.
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*** Another possible factor in his desire to put Adair on the throne would be that Elath's line would receive security from marrying into the royal family. While Adair as king 'would' secure a crown for Fabian's bloodline, Adair is the last of Elath's current line and, [[spoiler:as seen as what happens to him if he's left with his grandfather and Elodie is not engaged to Talarist]], the danger he's in is very real. While it's not explicit just how Fabian feels about [[spoiler:the rumors of Sednan agents being behind the deaths of Adair's grandmother and aunt]], ''somebody'' in Talasse understands the implications, because [[spoiler:Talarist will always institute high tariffs on the border if Elodie and Adair become engaged]].

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*** Another possible factor in his desire to put Adair on the throne would be that Elath's line would receive security from marrying into the royal family. While Adair as king 'would' ''would'' secure a crown for Fabian's bloodline, Adair is the last of Elath's current line and, [[spoiler:as seen as what happens to him if he's left with his grandfather and Elodie is not engaged to Talarist]], the danger he's in is very real. While it's not explicit just how Fabian feels about [[spoiler:the rumors of Sednan agents being behind the deaths of Adair's grandmother and aunt]], ''somebody'' in Talasse understands the implications, because [[spoiler:Talarist will always institute high tariffs on the border if Elodie and Adair become engaged]].
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** He also creepily notes that if Elodie doesn't intend to marry Adair, as implied by her decision to dance with him, she should leave him in his stepmother's care; if he has no reason to think she'll marry Adair in the first place, he'll recommend another relative who, as Adair's guardian, won't have normally-forbidden levels of political power. In other words, if he sees the opportunity, he'll try to trick Elodie into a MortonsFork: one option gives the Duchess of Lillah majority control over Nova's territories, the other puts a crown on his bloodline.

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** He also creepily notes that if Elodie doesn't intend to marry Adair, as implied by her decision to dance with him, she should leave him in his stepmother's care; if he has no reason to think she'll marry Adair in the first place, he'll recommend another relative who, as Adair's guardian, won't have normally-forbidden levels of political power. In other words, if he sees the opportunity, he'll try to trick Elodie into a MortonsFork: one option gives the Duchess of Lillah majority control over Nova's territories, the other puts a crown on his bloodline.bloodline.
*** Another possible factor in his desire to put Adair on the throne would be that Elath's line would receive security from marrying into the royal family. While Adair as king 'would' secure a crown for Fabian's bloodline, Adair is the last of Elath's current line and, [[spoiler:as seen as what happens to him if he's left with his grandfather and Elodie is not engaged to Talarist]], the danger he's in is very real. While it's not explicit just how Fabian feels about [[spoiler:the rumors of Sednan agents being behind the deaths of Adair's grandmother and aunt]], ''somebody'' in Talasse understands the implications, because [[spoiler:Talarist will always institute high tariffs on the border if Elodie and Adair become engaged]].
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->''"Surely her favorite cousin could not have the same personality as that madman? The implications of sweet Charlotte sharing a personal connection with someone as wicked and unbalanced as [[spoiler:Togami]] were distressing."''

It's impossible to get the full truth about every character in a single playthrough, so you're bound to have at least a few.

* As noted in the page quote, Charlotte may get one in-universe. [[spoiler: She can inherit Togami's Lumen crystal. Elodie convinces herself it must have something to do with the dueling ritual because her dear cousin couldn't possibly have anything in common with a power-hungry mustache-twirling villain who wants to take over the world... right?]]
* If Elodie deals with the woman who attempted to poison a noble in a way that angers the Earl of Io, Briony later writes that he continues to be furious about it. But if she punishes her the way he wanted (imprisoning or killing her without addressing her accusations), Briony's letter mentions he's still not satisfied, as he's been "acting strangely lately and shouting at shadows." There's no question that Kevan is emotionally unstable due to trauma in his youth, but some of his actions (and reactions) suggest he may also have paranoid schizophrenia in a world that doesn't have a modern concept of mental illness.
** Kevan's history with his stepfather. [[spoiler: The game says he was "seduced", but his extreme and traumatized reactions (and his implied age at the time) would indicate he was being sexually abused. Based on his relationship with his sister, was he being forcibly abused, or did his stepfather take advantage of him by exploiting a budding fetish for incest?]]
* The Duchess of Lillah is a noblewoman of such influence and political power that she can threaten Elodie's reign just by prominently ''existing''. Her family is so huge that almost every major interaction with Nova's nobility is at least indirectly connected to her, and gaining or losing her approval informs a number of events in the second half of the game. ''However'', many events in her backstory may imply that despite her poise, Kevan actually gets his hot-blooded attitude from her. [[spoiler: It's possible that if Elodie finds out the Duchess is in a position to raise a rebellion against her and may actually do it, Sabine can tell her it's actually just the Duchess holding a personal grudge.]]
* Speaking of Arisse and Kevan, [[spoiler:was she a straight-up MamaBear acting to protect Kevan from Jael even if he didn't think he needed protecting, or did her "horrified rejection" upon Thaddeus's discovery mean she blamed Kevan as well?]].
* Julianna states that her duty is to magic and Nova itself, not the mortal queens. That alone causes some people to question how helpful she is as a mentor to Elodie, but considering how tied the well-being of the country is the queen's choices and abilities, some think that her attitude towards Elodie causes her to not serve Nova's interests as well as she thinks she does. Her statement about how "queens die, the magic must not" also makes a few people question her feelings towards recently-deceased Fidelia, who was supposed to have been her friend. However, a possible conversation in the 1.3 version suggests that Julianna [[CynicismCatalyst blames herself for not preventing Fidelia's death]], which may be why she has so much difficulty relating to Elodie.
* Is Talarist a generally decent, perhaps even slightly ''progressive'', person by the standards of his position and are most of his less savory actions explainable by the dangerous political climate he lives in (for example, reacting to insults to avoid showing a sign of weakness or honestly needing heirs for his territory)? Or is he a fair-weather friend at best who only cares about himself and [[BitchInSheepsClothing whose polite exterior hides a very ugly interior]]? [[TakeAThirdOption Do both interpretations have elements of truth to them?]] The fact that the game doesn't reveal much about the political climate of his home country or [[spoiler:whether or not he's behind Adair's death]] makes it harder to say for sure.
* Does Alice only end up with a cruel Elodie because she's too scared of what will happen if she doesn't go along with what her queen wants, or she is just a shy NightmareFetishist who's turned on by Elodie's cruelty and willingly enters into a relationship with her? WordOfGod [[http://hanakoforum.nfshost.com/community/viewtopic.php?p=16427#p16427 seems to hint at the former]], though some read it as the latter.
* [[http://hanakoforum.nfshost.com/community/viewtopic.php?p=11094#p11094 Regarding Laurent]], from [[WordOfGod Hanako of Hanako Games herself]]:
-->Is he actively planning to have you killed? No. However... Laurent is an adult fully aware of the dangers and difficulties of politics. With everything that [[spoiler:Lucille]] is up to, Laurent really ought to at least be suspicious. So either he's a complete idiot and doesn't notice anything, or he's choosing not to pay attention. That doesn't mean he's evil. He could be so love-struck that he really doesn't want to notice anything odd that [[spoiler: his wife]] does. He could be so depressed by his sister's death that he doesn't care about anything anymore. [[spoiler:His wife]] could be drugging or magicing him into doing [[spoiler:her]] bidding. There's no way for Elodie to know.
* Adair's father Fabian, the elderly Earl of Titan. By default, if Elodie speaks with him at the gala he's a kindly grandfatherly type who thanks her for thinking of him and the welfare of his son even if she utterly flubs her Court Manners check. If you dance with Adair beforehand, though, you're reminded that Adair's mother was a teenage girl a third of his age (and pressured into marrying so young by her father) as he reminisces about "[[WifeHusbandry training]]" her.
** He also creepily notes that if Elodie doesn't intend to marry Adair, as implied by her decision to dance with him, she should leave him in his stepmother's care; if he has no reason to think she'll marry Adair in the first place, he'll recommend another relative who, as Adair's guardian, won't have normally-forbidden levels of political power. In other words, if he sees the opportunity, he'll try to trick Elodie into a MortonsFork: one option gives the Duchess of Lillah majority control over Nova's territories, the other puts a crown on his bloodline.

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