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Cassius335: Donatello? He's a Genius, sure, but he's not any stronger than the other three turtles.
Lale: So?
Sunder the Gold: Typically, The Smart Guy is smaller and/or weaker than the regular populace, and not much of a fighter. While Donatello is certainly not the biggest, strongest, or best fighter of his brothers, he's not that far behind (and probably on par with or better than Michelango), and he is definitely stronger and a better fighter than the vast majority of New York City's couch potato humans. So while he doesn't quite stand out as the Genius Bruiser of his team, he's still objectively a Genius Bruiser.
BlackMeph: But he's better known for being smart, so I'd call him (and Gen 13's Caitlin Fairchild) more of a Badass Bookworm than a Genius Bruiser.
Pyrotics: I have issue with Heracles(Hercules) being listed here... classically speaking, Heracles is portrayed as rather brutish, more likely to solve a situation by brute force than with wit. While he isn't a complete "retard" so to speak, he is never depicted as being specifically clever as many times, deception and clever thinking was underhanded and frowned upon (especially with the Romans). That's why Heracles generally took direct approaches. He wasn't stupid per se, but he was most definetly NOT smart.
Arakhor: I'd agree. Heracles was certainly cunning, but definitely not on the order of Mentor, Nestor or Odysseus.
Peteman: Why is Gordon Freeman on this page? He's a Badass Bookworm.
Austin: I cut this part from the Devil May Cry example "first game, when he finds agricultural economic records actually interesting reads when you examine the bookshelves, (on the other hand, he tends to scoff "whatever..." or "why am I reading this?" when you examine any other books)" because I played through the game, and he doesn't say that. Early on, you can examine a bookshelf that mention prisoners and their bail amounts, and Dante comments "How interesting...". But given the three periods and the way Dante is, this is more likely than not sarcasm.
Why is Spiderman listed here? I mean sure, he's quite strong as well as smart, but he doesn't strike me as enough of a Big Guy to qualify as a Genius Bruiser. A Badass Bookworm maybe...
Haven: Took out this qualifying example under the Order Of The Stick, because I don't think we've ever seen anything indicating that his strength is from magic items. He uses enchanted weapons, sure, but it seems like his strength is natural.
**Granted, his father was a famous illusionist and Roy relies on a bit on his strength boosting equipment.
Eponymous Kid: Okay, is it just me, or is there a difference between "especially smart" and "not dumb"? Characters should only be listed if their intelligence and physical prowess are both hallmarks of their characters, for one thing, but there's a huge difference between "particularly intelligent" and "not a total moron."
Potemkin, for example, is just plain not stupid. He's not a dumb guy, but he's not a particularly smart one, either. In fact, I imagine a good chunk of these examples are simply "not dumb" rather than "smart."
Bob: This is about The Big Guy being brilliant contrary to the usual portrayal of big, strong guys. It is not about any The Smart Guy being capable of taking and throwing a punch. Stupid Flanderization... Feel free cut any other inaccurate examples.
- Spider-Man - brilliant student and inventor, with the proportionate strength of a spider.
Even becomes a science teacherOh, God dammit. - The Silver Age Superman was one of these, also. The Post-Crisis revamp, while smart, doesn't quite make it all the way to "genius".
- Angelus, Angel's soulless self from the Buffyverse is more of a Magnificent Bastard, but the fact remains he's got vampiric strength, speed, and endurance, and a knack for fiendishly cunning and cruel plans.
- In Eureka even the "jock" looking students at its school are nerds. This is justified by the fact that it is a town full of geniuses.
- Arguably, John Sheppard of Stargate Atlantis. He is the lead member of the show's offworld team, and head of security of Atlantis, for good reason. In addition, he was shown in "The Brotherhood" as solving a puzzle that even McKay couldn't solve, after which he casually mentions that it was on the Mensa entrance exam.
- Unfortunately they Did Not Do The Research, as that puzzle does not work that way and has several other possible solutions. But it still applies.
- Roy Greenhilt, the greatsword-wielding fighter from Order Of The Stick, actually has better mental abilities overall than any of his teammates. And given that one of his teammates is a brilliant elven wizard, that's fairly impressive.
Deuxhero:I know I have seen at least once a character like this doing pushups while reading a book, if someone could find a picture of such a thing, it would be great for the article.
Alan: "It is also sometimes implied that Alphonse is even more gifted than Edward." Can someone give me two or three examples of this? I have a really hard time believing this.
