This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.
Silent Hunter: Two requests. One, can someone tidy up this entry and make it good. Two, how do you do overscores.
Seth: I can fix the links but i dont know enough about the series to expand on the entry.
Silent Hunter: I've seen three of the films but not the fourth.
Paul A: Overscores? You mean superscripts, like in Alien3? I have no idea. The HTML is disabled, and there doesn't seem to be a way of doing it in wiki code.
Robert: HTML character entities aren't disabled. ³ gives ³
Paul A: ³ does the same. I'd forgotten that (I thought it only went as high as ).
BT The P: Am I to take it that Joss Whedon worked on Alien: Resurrection? Cause that little parenthetical says so, but it's not mentioned anywhere else in the text.
Fast Eddie: Yes. He has the "written by" credit. IMDB entry for Joss
BTW, maybe someone wants to say something about Alien Versus Predator. I've tried, but it always devolves into me throwing rotten tomatoes at my monitor and shouting incoherently. Makes a mess and frightens the neighbors.
Space Ace: A lighthearted approach for Alien 4? I think I'm thankful that didn't go through. As is, Alien 4 is still superior to Alien 3, which is an affront to the franchise, science fiction and humanity on a whole.
Looney Toons: A propos of nothing in particular, I have long been of the opinion that Alien³ was a poorly chosen name. To my mind, the obvious progression should have been:
- Alien
- Aliens
- Alienses
Space Ace: Alienii?
Thunder Phoenix: And that's all I have to say about that. Oh, and I suggest More Aliens.
Morgan Wick: Can someone explain to me why so many people not only love this series, especially the first two films and especially Aliens, but consider them the best thing in the history of Sci-Fi?
fleb: I just watched Aliens, so I can guess: the crazy amount of Freud Was Right layers of lit-analysis available to mine, the feminist icon status, the realistic Used Future, the blame-the-evil-corporation thing that's always popular, and the gut-level horror appeal of the aliens?
Fast Eddie: Crazyrabbits, luckily, it's a little easier than that. Thanks for the effort!
fleb: Now I'm wondering what this comment was talking about.
fleb: I just noticed something about Aliens— twice, the heroes talk about doing something edgy, and then... the plot stops them. They threaten to shoot the traitor, but then the aliens attack and he gets a Karmic Death. They say Nuke 'em, but then the colony starts nuking itself. The closest thing to edgy going on is the suicide-pacts, which actually does get followed through by Vasquez and the other guy.
I just discovered tvtropes, and I sure hope I don't spend too much time here. Anyway, since it came out, I've insisted that Aliens is a Post-Vietnam War Movie and should be included in whatever film classes/festivals/wikis that ever analyze movies made about Vietnam.
The ship interior is a metaphor for the jungle: hot, steamy, dark. The "Company" is a metaphor for the Government: sends the military out but refuses to let them use their best weapons (in this case because of the nuclear power plant). We would have won(!) if we could just have used our best weapons! Gorman is a green lieutenant who in Vietnam might have been fragged.
I think there are other analogies as well.
Fighteer: Okay, whoever added the Role Association trope was just asking for Natter. I've excised the entire section because it's attracting the dreaded This Troper like flies. Isn't Role Association supposed to be a Just for Fun page anyway? It has no business on main works pages. Reproduced below for your reading displeasure.
- Role Association - You can't watch the scene in Aliens where Mac McDonald (playing the leader of the ill-fated LV426 colony) is walking down a metal corridor bitching about his job and the suits back on Earth without expecting him to walk past Lister and Rimmer repairing a chicken soup vending machine.
- This troper can't think of the Fundamentalist Mormon main character in Big Love without thinking he's about to start whining "Game over man!", or ask one of his wives if they've ever been mistaken for a man.
- This troper laughs when watching Aliens because Drake was played by the gay rapist from The Shawshank Redemption.
- Believing Paul Buchman is a corrupt executive shows how effective Aliens is.
- This troper's mother spent months trying to figure out why she loathed and distrusted Paul until she rewatched Aliens and finally put her finger on it.
