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MasterDisaster64 Since: Jan, 2015
Feb 27th 2016 at 5:04:30 PM •••

Why is the page called «An Aesop» and not just «Aesop»?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Feb 28th 2016 at 1:45:24 AM •••

To distinguish the trope from the person?

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SheltonTVTropes Since: Mar, 2020
Mar 30th 2020 at 4:14:02 PM •••

I think that it’s called that to distinguish it from Aesop, the person.

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Venatius Since: Jul, 2011
Dec 30th 2011 at 9:34:12 AM •••

I have to admit, I've wondered this for a long time: Why do we have this phrase? The words "moral" (for a story's intended lesson for the reader) and "fable" (a fantastical story meant to convey a moral - precisely what Aesop was known for) and "parable" (the same thing for non-fantastical) already exist. "An Aesop" is LESS clear, since it could mean a moral, a fable, or a parable. You need context to figure out which. It's also redundant, since clearer terms already exist. It seems like a lingual construct as pointless as adding "head of" to quantities of cattle. I'm not trying to agitate for its removal, mind - the term and the article itself are both probably too widely spread to excise. I'm more just looking for justification for the sake of my own peace of mind.

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NimmerStill Since: Mar, 2012
Apr 23rd 2012 at 11:19:49 PM •••

Good question; I've wondered that myself. The main page seems to admit that there's no justification, but no intention of revising it either. The only marginal justification is that "moral" is a loaded term which is used for this, but also for "socially contractual obligation" and "social custum" as well. But its use in the context of fables is pretty clear and established. And "fable" and "parable" are pretty unambiguous.

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abomb30 Since: Jan, 2011
Oct 2nd 2012 at 3:29:37 PM •••

Plus, Aesop is a name. Using the name Aesop instead of Moral really does not sit well with me for some reason. You'd never say "I guess the Socrates of our story is..."

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Kurtulmak Since: Oct, 2010
Oct 14th 2012 at 1:57:46 PM •••

This trope's name has been my personal Berserk Button from the moment I first encountered it for all of the above reasons. I really have no idea why it's so grossly misnamed.

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MystyrNile Since: Sep, 2011
May 6th 2013 at 5:31:18 AM •••

I agree. It's hard to overstate my dissatisfaction with the trope's name. I say we should change it.

Venatius Since: Jul, 2011
Oct 20th 2016 at 8:22:19 PM •••

Sadly (and incredibly belatedly), in regards to changing it, good luck. It was YEARS ago enough people noticed "Hey, a list of every time a certain type of weapon has appeared in a piece of media of any type isn't really a trope," and brought it to community attention. The result? They're still waffling and discussing the subject in abstract with few if any actual changes achieved as far as I can tell, to this very day. An ultra-prevalent neologism like this one is just not going to go down. There's too much work and too little drive. I'd love to be wrong, but...

smendler Since: Dec, 2016
Dec 2nd 2016 at 9:20:12 AM •••

it also makes it possible to distinguish among the various subtypes of Aesop.

smendler Since: Dec, 2016
Dec 2nd 2016 at 9:18:18 AM •••

Regarding the He-Man Aesops: at one point, I was tutoring a young boy who would watch the show before our sessions. When the Aesop came on, that was the point he turned it off. I am fairly sure that he is now either in prison or politics.

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thnidu Since: Mar, 2014
May 3rd 2015 at 11:17:18 AM •••

In the text "In some quarters An Aesop delivered to another character", "An Aesop" is linked right back to this page. It should be unlinked.

Adûnâi Since: Dec, 2014
Dec 28th 2014 at 10:20:58 PM •••

Is there any way to edit "Aesops Fables" to "Aesop's Fables" in this article? Thanks in advance!

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Dec 29th 2014 at 1:27:44 AM •••

It's a broken Custom Title; you need to report it here.

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