Here is my argument: the 'All Take And No Give' and 'The Bully' tropes under Yuki are incredibly incorrect and misleading and should be deleted.
All Take and No Give: this is meant to apply to a relationship where one person makes many demands and/or takes advantage of another without giving anything back. Just for starters, this does not apply to Yuki's relationship with Ayame because he doesn't want anything from Ayame! At its worse, he just wants Ayame to leave him alone: Ayame is the one pushing a relationship onto him. Secondly, Yuki is a high school student, while Ayame (and Hatori etc.) are working adults - it's simply not realistic to expect the same amount of give-and-take here, especially given that Ayame ends up taking on a pseudo-parental role to Yuki. It would would take some pretty blatant selfishness for a teenager to be considered to be 'taking advantage' of their parent, which Yuki very clearly does not do. Lastly, the primary reason why Yuki was initially 'ungrateful' (if it can be called that) is because *for multiple years, Yuki was being abused and Ayame did nothing.* Even if Ayame couldn't have saved him from Akito, he didn't even try to reach out to him. He knew Yuki was alone, and he ignored him. His overbearing big-brother act at the beginning of the manga is very new, and a complete about-face. Yuki simply doesn't trust yet that Ayame has actually changed - he could only cry for help for so long before he stopped believing it would ever come.
(None of this is to imply that Yuki is perfect or that Ayame is awful: Yuki fully admits that he was overly distrusting, and Ayame accepts openly that he screwed up and Yuki is right to be angry at him.)
As for The Bully... okay. So. That trope is for a character who has some sort of significant power (social, economic, or otherwise) over another, who regularly wields it to harm another, who is not capable of fighting back to the same extent. This so obviously doesn't apply to Yuki and Kyou's relationship that even the trope text admits that all they can say is that 'Yuki sometimes goes too far', citing one (comedic!) instance in which Yuki roughly put a spring onion in his mouth. This is so incredibly minor I really don't even know how to explain this. Especially given that Kyou, on a regular basis, initiates physical fights with Yuki. This kind of physical scuffling happens every day for them, and 9 times out of 10 Kyou is the initiator. (Yes, he has his reasons! But Yuki doesn't know those reasons! And also, Kyou can handle it! We know this!!) There simply isn't any point in trying to litigate whether one or the other 'takes it further', even if it were true Yuki does so. Either way: *it's not this trope.* There are plenty of other tropes that apply to Yuki and Kyou's rivalry; there's no need to pigeonhole this one.
As a result, I'll be removing the tropes. I hope that is acceptable.
I hope this is the right way to do this but uh
Here is my argument: the 'All Take And No Give' and 'The Bully' tropes under Yuki are incredibly incorrect and misleading and should be deleted.
All Take and No Give: this is meant to apply to a relationship where one person makes many demands and/or takes advantage of another without giving anything back. Just for starters, this does not apply to Yuki's relationship with Ayame because he doesn't want anything from Ayame! At its worse, he just wants Ayame to leave him alone: Ayame is the one pushing a relationship onto him. Secondly, Yuki is a high school student, while Ayame (and Hatori etc.) are working adults - it's simply not realistic to expect the same amount of give-and-take here, especially given that Ayame ends up taking on a pseudo-parental role to Yuki. It would would take some pretty blatant selfishness for a teenager to be considered to be 'taking advantage' of their parent, which Yuki very clearly does not do. Lastly, the primary reason why Yuki was initially 'ungrateful' (if it can be called that) is because *for multiple years, Yuki was being abused and Ayame did nothing.* Even if Ayame couldn't have saved him from Akito, he didn't even try to reach out to him. He knew Yuki was alone, and he ignored him. His overbearing big-brother act at the beginning of the manga is very new, and a complete about-face. Yuki simply doesn't trust yet that Ayame has actually changed - he could only cry for help for so long before he stopped believing it would ever come.
(None of this is to imply that Yuki is perfect or that Ayame is awful: Yuki fully admits that he was overly distrusting, and Ayame accepts openly that he screwed up and Yuki is right to be angry at him.)
As for The Bully... okay. So. That trope is for a character who has some sort of significant power (social, economic, or otherwise) over another, who regularly wields it to harm another, who is not capable of fighting back to the same extent. This so obviously doesn't apply to Yuki and Kyou's relationship that even the trope text admits that all they can say is that 'Yuki sometimes goes too far', citing one (comedic!) instance in which Yuki roughly put a spring onion in his mouth. This is so incredibly minor I really don't even know how to explain this. Especially given that Kyou, on a regular basis, initiates physical fights with Yuki. This kind of physical scuffling happens every day for them, and 9 times out of 10 Kyou is the initiator. (Yes, he has his reasons! But Yuki doesn't know those reasons! And also, Kyou can handle it! We know this!!) There simply isn't any point in trying to litigate whether one or the other 'takes it further', even if it were true Yuki does so. Either way: *it's not this trope.* There are plenty of other tropes that apply to Yuki and Kyou's rivalry; there's no need to pigeonhole this one.
As a result, I'll be removing the tropes. I hope that is acceptable.
Edited by ClockStopping