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- Ok, I'm going out on a limb here, making a WMG guess before the series even debuts, but look at the artwork here. Martian Manhunter, especially, looks exactly like he did in that movie, which (to my knowledge) no other comic book adaptation or TV show has emulated. The others, however, also look identical. Sure, this is very, very unlikely to be true, but it seems so convenient if it were. If not, however, it would be great for a Crossover of some kind. In continuity with Young Justice, it would have to have taken place before the time YJ will happen since the Justice League in YJ has 16 members and the one in Crisis only had 6 with the idea of expanding the membership only being toyed with near the end of the film. In YJ, Superman has only been around for 10 years yet the Justice League has been fighting criminals long enough for the crooks to organize against them. Crisis just doesn't seem to fit in that timeline. There's also the fact that their Aquaman looks completely different... So apart from the similar designs the two don't seem to be all that related in continuity.
- Not necessary; this is Earth-16 according to Word of God. Crisis on Two Earths was simply Earth-1 and Earth-2 of the DCAM (DC Animated Multiverse). Presumably, the DCAU Justice Lords timeline is 3, and DCAU mainline is either 0 or 4. That timeline that appeared in one episode of Superman: The Animated Series was 5, and 6-15 have yet to be catalogued. Maybe they're the standalone animated movies (some of which are probably one timeline), The Batman, and Batman: The Brave and the Bold.
- Martian Manhunter's costume is based on the one he wore starting with One Year Later storyline till his death in Final Crisis
- Not necessary; this is Earth-16 according to Word of God. Crisis on Two Earths was simply Earth-1 and Earth-2 of the DCAM (DC Animated Multiverse). Presumably, the DCAU Justice Lords timeline is 3, and DCAU mainline is either 0 or 4. That timeline that appeared in one episode of Superman: The Animated Series was 5, and 6-15 have yet to be catalogued. Maybe they're the standalone animated movies (some of which are probably one timeline), The Batman, and Batman: The Brave and the Bold.
- All the universes are in the same multiverse.
- No. The DCAU did not have an official universes in the 52 universes of the DC multiverse. Neither did The Batman, Teen Titans, or Batman: The Brave and the Bold. Unless they give it an official designation, such as Earth-16 for Young Justice, it doesn't have one.
- Not only is it the same world as Crisis On Two Earths but it will become the world of Batman: Under the Red Hood.
- The Showcase: Green Arrow short also takes place in the future of this world.
- The Green Arrow point seems unlikely given that Young Justice basically adapted the short's plot with KF as the hero.
- It could still work. Who's to say this isn't Vertigo's latest attempt to kill her and that Perdita isn't a natural blonde? She was queen but not crowned in the short since her father had just died over night.
- I always thought it happened in the past. The Green Arrow, Black Canary and Count Vertigo models are the same as in the showcase, and Vertigo's lead mook is the same as well. Showcase happened when her father died, and in YJ she is clearly Queen now. It only falls apart when you wonder why Vertigo didn't end up in jail the first time.
- You're right it does and I can explain why:
- lack of evidence
- In Showcase Perdita's father had just died and was going to her coronation so she wasn't officially queen yet, and even when she was Queen sans any evidence it would have seemed like she was trying to get rid of him. And either a regent would be put in her place or [[spoiler:much more likely and even worse: The Count himself would take the throne.]]
- Count vertigo probably either bribed or had Merlyn kill the security in the camera room.
- Oliver just happened to be there and saw Merlyn, a baddie that, in the short, he has beef with, exchanging money with somebody. the fact that the client was Count Vertigo and the target was Perdita wasn't something he was expecting and therefore wasn't something he had prepared/planned for.
- technically neither was wally, but once he was—[[spoiler:, he and Perdita ( Probably mostly Perdita. '''''AS. IT. HASN'T. EVEN. BEEN. A. YEAR''''' ) hatched a plan to get evidence
- The sheer number of laws that he that would have surpassed his immunity in "coldhearted" would have gotten him at least a year in prison
- only with evidence of course
- and finally three less than five letter words:'''''WORD. OF. GOD'''''
- The Showcase: Green Arrow short also takes place in the future of this world.
- Justice League: Doom does too. Even Lois looks much like she did in an issue of the YJ comic book.
- I was going to suggest that the animated series Titans show up under Tim Drake's control. We've already got Robin and Beast Boy, plus STAR labs (Cyborg's stamping grounds).
- This isn't a wild mass guess, it's Word of God.
- What I think the initial poster was trying to say is that this show might be the start of a continuity for a new series of animated shows for DC characters much like the DC Animated Universe was back in the '90s and early '00s. Since this first series has yet to even really get started, let along renewed for more episodes, this guess will take sometime to be proven right or wrong.
- So far, the show has been remarkably close to the comics, even more than in the old DCAU. What few differences there are seem to be done intentionally to simplify things for a wider audience.
- Looks like DC is going in the direction of this guess since they've recently announced
a spin off miniseries of Young Justice (2010) titled Young Justice: Invasion.
- That's not a spin-off, but rather the Arc Name for the second season.
1) Episode with the Mr. Mxyzptlk as the villain going up against Superboy, but Bat-Mite intervening, first to warn that fatally harming Robin is off limits and second to deliver an EPIC beatdown when it eventually happens
2) Extremely short cameo with Bat-Mite having taken a wrong over at some dimension junction
3) Robin heavily afflicted with hallucinogenic material and Bat-Mite acting as Robin's major, if not only, ground in reality
- The cross-over aspect is Jossed by Mitefall, the 65th episode of that series, and the series finale: not only is the series over, but Bat-Mite was Hoist by His Own Petard, being a fictional character too silly for a serious show, and so ended up fading away along with the rest of the show when it was canceled. The third option could still work for a Bat-Mite showing up, though.
- Unlikely. Not only is the show no longer in hiatus, it's been renewed for a twenty episode second season.
- Because Time Lords are very good at running.
- And now we've fulfilled all requirements for a WMG page, thank goodness.
- In a flashback in the tie in comic we see Robin fighting a blonde Two Face.
- Gotham's portrayal as a normal looking city rather than the normal uber gothic we see in most adaptations.
- The Joker's knifenut tendencies, outfit and bedraggled appearance.
- Commissioner Gordon bears a resemblance to his movie counterpart.
- The Gotham monorail is visible during the first shot of episode 1.
- Word of god says Ra's Al Ghul was once a hero in this universe possibly alluding to his role in training Bruce. After his failure to recruit him in Batman Begins Ra's elected either Chesire or Sportsmaster as his replacement.
1) Same voice actor for both Batmans.
2) Several of the opening shots from UTRH were used in "Downtime" - so maybe the same Gotham.
3) I can't help but think that Nightwing looks like an older YJ!Robin.
4) It would be freakin' awesome, that's why.
- Another one: in "Salvage", the apartment that Roy collapsed in at the end of the episode looked just like a slightly less dilapidated version of the apartment that, in UTRH, Jason and Bruce had their final confrontation.
- It also appears that by season two a Robin has died judging from the shrine of the fallen.
- I'd rather have Cassandra Cain as Batgirl personally, and I don't think Rose Wilson is very likely because they'd have to introduce Deathstroke, which I don't think they'll do because he is pretty similar to the show's version of Sportsmaster.
- Stephanie is so fun, though. As for Rose, I think her relationship with the team would be interesting, considering how she acted while being part of the Titans. Not to mention Deathstroke has precog and is more of an anti-Batman. Earth-16 Sportsmaster is more of a David Cain.
- The time skip between seasons 2 and 3 will be only a year. Conner will sacrifice his life to defeat Match at the end of season 2. Season 3 will pick up a year later with everyone still feeling the effect of his loss, similar to what happened with Teen Titans after Infinite Crisis. The show will then somewhat follow the storyline from Teen Titans, but toned down for younger audiences. For example, it will be made clear that Conner is still alive and there will be a subplot of him stuck in the future/amnesiac/whatever.
- They should still have Tim going clone-crazy though. Because that whole future-clone arc could be really interesting. Especially if they also made it a 'Robin gets over Superboy's death' arc, because it was kinda going that way in Teen Titans, but they never fully developed it.
- Confirmed
by Word of God.
- The Season 2 finale will have the team dissolve, due to Dick and Wally keeping secrets about Aqualad's betrayal and Artemis' death. By the next time skip, something will happen to get them back together.
- I know this is probably painfully obvious to everyone who remembers their DC Mainstream Canon, as well as Justice League Unlimited, but it had to be said. Godfrey is well-known for causing political upheaval on Apokalips amongst "The Lowlies," the oppressed citizens of the Suicide Slums who toil under the heel of Darkseid and his Elite. Whenever Godfrey takes the stage, he always knows what to say to get people riled up. However, every one of his revolutions has been for his and Darkseid's amusement, and are always beaten down. Who's to say he hasn't been planted on Earth as an agent of Apokalips to turn the people against the Justice League, weakening the morale on all fronts so that Earth is vulnerable to an attack from Apokalips or whatever dark force awaits our heroes?
- I don't think they're trying to hide that fact. It's kind of obvious
- He's human, but a(n) (un)willing follower of Darkseid. He might even be affiliated with Intergang.
- It looks like he's present in Darkseid's court in The Stinger to the S2 finale, so this is probably confirmed.
1. Promotional material shows Aqualad wearing rather Black Manta-esque armor. See here.
2. Future episode summaries explain that the Kroloteans are getting help from an "extremely unexpected source". See here. The Krolotean base is infiltrated through an underwater door. The thing is, the Kroloteans use teleportation and don't seem to be swimmers. Why would they need a second method of entry they couldn't use?
3. Another future episode summary, seen here, has this description: "Nightwing and company try to salvage the soul of a former comrade fallen from grace." It's the episode immeadietly after the one previously mentioned, meaning that they're most likely connected. In addition, the summary mentions Nightwing specifically, implying that he'll be focused on. Nightwing would have a lot to say to a fallen Aqualad.
- Seconded...ish. Heel Face Turn or just a falling out with everyone, I'm going to guess it has to do with Aquaman's son. In the comics, Manta's biggest claim to being Aquaman's arch-nemesis is that he killed the latter's son. Considering who Manta's son is and that Mera was pregnant 5 years ago...do the math.
- Confirmed. Aqualad has become Black Manta's apprentice after a mission that occurred during the Time Skip that saw Tula/Aquagirl killed.
- Jossed. He's only pretending to be a villain.
- Very likely confirmed. Promotional pictures for "Satisfaction" show four memorials to the dead members of the League/Team - Tula, Ted Kord, Artemis, and a Robin.
- Confirmed, at least for the Fake Defector part. Only Nightwing, Wally, and Artemis know he's still a hero.
- Jossed. Wally retired from heroing.
But 5 years later, something has been happening to The League and Team. Robin moved from Batman's shadow as he said he would in Disordered (I don't wanna be The Batman anymore). Superboy and M'Gann split from each other. Zatanna and Rocket joined the League while some of the others declined. The Team expanded Twofold. Kaldur, Artimis, Wally, Red Arrow and The Light have mysteriously disappeared from the story. Captain Atom is leading, though Batman and Superman are still present. The Team is now considered a valuable asset of The League with being part of their overall strategies quite often. Yet what's most mysterious is how frosty things have become between The League and the Media. Kate Brand, who use to reliably report on League public activities has suddenly been shut out, and Xenophobia is starting to grip the public. Some serious happenings must have occurred for things to have changed so much, and for The League to not be as concerned about The Light compared to some other threats.
- The xenophobia can be partially explained by G Gordon Godfrey's who in the mainstream comics is actually one of the New Gods of Apokolips stirring fear on Earth for Darkseid fearmongering rants about the League and aliens.
- Just to be contrary I'll disagree with this WMG. I say that instead of something big happening lots of small somethings happened. Gradual shifts in team rosters, leadership dynamic, and romantic relationship; the Light scaling back its activities and waiting for Phase Two; Darkseid's minions messing things up here and there. No one cataclysmic event - just life as usual.
It's not clear if they joined before Zatanna and Rocket or at the same time nor if they are still members of the League.
- A quick count shows that although there are 26 justice league members one the numbering scheme apparently only 21 are "active". At the end of "Happy New Year" we saw a total of twenty team members including all of the members of the justice league at the end of the first season except the Atom plus Zatanna, Rocket and Blue Lightning. Since we know Zatarra (number 11) isn't active that leaves four inactive members unaccounted for, possibly Red Arrow, Aqualad, Kid Flash and Artemis.
- Kid Flash contracted his "mysterious disease" that prevents him from using his super speed (as in the comics) and so reluctantly retired from hero work. He got super depressed about it and distanced himself from his friends which contributed to his and Artemis's breakup
- Partially Jossed in that Wally is still with Artemis and doesn't seem too distanced from his friends. He has retired, though, and as of this edit we don't know why.
- Aqua Lad learned that his father was The Black Manta and finally understood why he felt so torn between Atlantis and the surface world. After Aquaman's son was born, the king naturally started to focus more on his heir which Aqualad tried to ignore but ultimately couldn't. As the team broke apart and he was left behind, he turned to the only family that he had left, embracing his dark side
- semi-confirmed.
- Artemis lost her mother shortly after Wally's diagnosis. The combined stress caused her to throw herself entirely into hero work in order to have some semblance of control. Eventually, her method's crossed League Standard's (think Huntress in Justice League Unlimited) and she went solo. Now she's working to bring down the League of Shadows.
- Jossed. She's still with Wally and has retired from heroing.
- Red Arrow is still obsessed with finding Roy Harper, so much so that he quit hero work in order to continue searching full time. He and Chesire are hooking up.
- Confirmed...ish. He's not exactly a hero anymore, he's still obsessed with finding Speedy, and he's married to Chesire.
1. Megan slowly bonded with Lagoon Boy during the timeskip as true kindred spirits of mutual isolation from their own kind and the utter freakishness of their respective true forms.
- Megan and Lagoon Boy bonded over their stupid catch phrases
- "Hello, Megan!" "Neptune's Beard!" kisskisskisskisskisskiss
2. Superboy and the Cassie Sandsmark Wonder Girl bonded over mutual interests in athletic contests.
- Alternate Reason: Superboy went with Megan to spend the holidays on Mars. However, he experiences firsthand much of the grief the White Martians are put through and thoroughly disgusted by what he sees, even more so that the Manhunter is the only one actively doing anything to bring about equality. He eventually snaps, either from seeing a White Martian being beaten to death for no reason whatsoever with no one, not even his or family, doing anything or from realizing a term he's been calling Megan the entire time on Mars is actually a racial slur. Either case, Superboy starts whooping major ass and unintentionally sparks a riot. Luckily, Superman comes by and helps Megan in calming Superboy down, and the riot is put down soon afterwards peacefully. Peace and equality between Green and White Martians becomes an actual possibility, but only because the Greens are worried that ALL Earthlings would react like Superboy did when the planet at large finds out and doing it only to as a safety precaution rather than a true, legitimate change. Megan gets angry at Connor for blowing up like he did and nearly causing a bloody race war, and breaks up with him right there. They return to Earth, and Megan, much calmer, says that she's sorry to Connor, but Connor agrees that they should stop being a couple, acknowledging that he still needs more anger management training. They become Amicable Exes from then on.
- While hilarious, both are Jossed as of "Earthlings".
- Superboy dumped Ms. Martian after she mind raped and/or killed Queen Bee in revenge for what happened to Beast Boy's mom.
- And Superboy helped cover it up, which is why Beast Boy is so obviously trying to get them back together
- Jossed in "Alienated" Queen Bee is apparently still alive and sane.
- But is it still the same one?
- Why wouldn't it be? We see in that same episode that the Light replaces failed members wholesale, with Black Manta taking over Ocean Master's old position. Why would they bother to replace Queen Bee with a lookalike? Even if they wanted to maintain the illusion of her still ruling Bialya, why would they let a fake Queen Bee in on their private meetings?
- I mean that the Silver Age Alien Queen Bee could have quickly been inserted by Darkseid between the Dictator Queen Bee getting it badly by M'gann and the next scheduled meeting of the Light. But this troper does admit that it could be a real Reach.
- Problems in bed. Superboy was initially okay with the shapeshifting as long as Ms. Martian was shapeshifting into other hot chicks, but when she wanted to do it as aqualad, superboy had no choice.
- Confirmed by Young Justice: Legacy
- Something happened, but jossed because he wasn't the one that killed Tula.
- Oliver's known for having a lot of kids running around, and Artemis' costume looks a lot more like Green Arrow's than it does like Arrowette. Meanwhile, apparently Wonder Girl isn't being used because of the story they want to tell with Artemis.
- There is a amazon in the comic books known as Artemis who is a archer and was once Wonder Woman
- Word of God says she is not an Amazon "at all". Daughter of an Amazon would seem to fall under that.
- Jossed. Artemis is the daughter of a disabled Vietnamese woman and someone who would hypothetically want her to kill Kid Flash.
- Her father is Sportsmaster who showed up in Episode 3
- Word of God has said that Artemis is an established DC character and not an Arrowette or Wondergirl knock-off (those two will be making appearances later). So this has led to a couple fan theories on who she is. Artemiz and Artemis Crock have been suggested and both are villains. I think Artemis is going to turn bad in a season long arc and leave the team, while Secret, Arrowette, and Wondergirl will join up (the team right now is a little lite on female regulars; this would make them an even 1 to 1 ratio).
- Artemis's father is the Sportsmaster, who appears in the third episode working for the Light.
- Is this confirmed, or just more WMG?
- In the comics, yes it is confirmed that Artemis is the daughter of Sportsmaster and Tigress.
- What? Tigress (III) is the daughter of Sportsmaster and Huntress (I), if that's what you're talking about...
- Tigress (III)'s real first name is Artemis. so, yes, that is what I'm talking about.
- She's not Tigress' daughter (unless Tigress is a disabled Vietnamese woman), but her father could still be Sportsmaster.
- Not necessarily. Artemis' mom is called Paula Crock in the credits and Tigress' given name is Paula Brooks later changed to Paula Crock when she got married. Artemis Crock from the comics was full Caucasian while Artemis Crock on the show is part Asian. We don't know how Artemis' mom got put in that chair so she could have still been Tigress in the past she just has had a Race Lift.
- Jossed, she stayed a hero.
- Artemis's father is the Sportsmaster, who appears in the third episode working for the Light.
- Partially confirmed, her acceptance letter in "Downtime" is addressed to "Miss Artemis Crock."
- Jossed. She had a cameo in "Insecurity".
- She'll die heroically in the first few episodes before coming back eventually as a ghost. We know Secret is appearing, and her original origin may be a bit too dark for the cartoon. She could be retooled and be the new Secret.
- Artemis' name, at least, has been confirmed as Artemis Crock (see above).
- And she has met Greta Hayes.
- Awkward but very heartwarming.
- Cass is traditionally Tim's counterpart, isn't she?
- I thought Tim's counterpart is Stephanie Brown.
- Doesn't look likely, Batgirl in season 2 is Barbara Gordon.
- Confirmed, she appears as Orphan in season 3.
- This theory looks like it's shaping up to be true since the New York Comic-Con preview seemed to have White Martians at Project Cadmus in the preview. Also, she is not with Robin, Aqualad, and Kid Flash when they go to investigate but shows up briefly at the end of the preview.
- Word of God
states that the Green Martians are still alive and M'gann has a lot of sisters. Nothing he said indicated M'gann was (or wasn't) a Green Martian though.
- The creatures seen in the preview turned out to be G-Nomes created by Cadmus, but there's no reason that they couldn't have used Martian DNA as starter stock for those...
- Word of God
- Her bio on the Cartoon Network website says that she "hides [her] true appearance." I'd fancy a guess that this one's gonna be confirmed.
- I want this theory to be true, just to see the look in Kid Flash's face when she reveals her true appearance.
- Alternatively, she could be a halfie. Martian Manhunter has/had a twin brother, Malefic, who, in at least one continuity, was an evil dude that certainly helped the Martian genocide come along, if not orchestrated it altogether. Megan could conceivably have Malefic as a father, and a White Martian as a mother, with the White Martian genes being dominant.
- Actually this is half right. According to Word of God, M'Gann's mom is J'onn's sister and her dad is a White Martian. Most of her siblings are green, except one brother.
- This doesn't completely disprove this idea, but in "Bereft" when Miss Martian doesn't remember how she got on Earth, she refers to the Martian Manhunter as "Uncle J'onn" spontaneously when Kid Flash mentions him. In order for J'onn to not be her uncle, she'd need to A) have a plan to pretend to be his niece well before she actually went to Earth and B) go out of her way to reinforce this idea to people who she only vaguely remembers as her teammates.
- If J'onn has been her guardian/ mentor for a while, "Uncle J'onn" may simply be what she calls him, even if she only starts actually pretending to be his niece on Earth.
- As revealed in "Secrets", J'onn had only even known M'gann for about 3 or 4 months before "Bereft", meaning that she was calling him "Uncle J'onn" before they even met.
- This theory is supported by the episode Bereft. We get a view of a girl that looks like Megan but is from Earth
◊ and a TV character; Megan obviously copied her disguise and most of her personality that character, but with green skin to match Manhunter and their cover.
- during that part, we also get a quick glimpse (for less than a second) of this http://img135.imageshack.us/i/1300239814045.png/
It doesn't appear to be any of the creatures from Cadmus, Flooks similar to the white martians, and is in a rocky cave, which means it could be on mars.
- If that's what White Martians look like then I really want to see the look on Kid Flash's face when M'gann reveals her true appearance.
- Megan said she had twelve sisters. Green Martians are all dead in the comics, except for J'onn.. White Martians are thriving though.
- Except Word of God states that the Green Martians are not dead in this universe.
- Did Word of God say they're plentiful?
- Megan mentions White Martians in the newest episode, complete with Suspiciously Specific Denial.
- They're clearly mocking us, at this point.
- during that part, we also get a quick glimpse (for less than a second) of this http://img135.imageshack.us/i/1300239814045.png/
- In the episode "Failsafe", J'onn said she has the strongest telepathic mind which caused her to believe psychic training was real. Perhaps White Martian telepathic minds are generally stronger than Green Martians'. If she isn't a White Martian, maybe one of her parents are, as stated above. Perhaps because of her mixed heritage her abilities are stronger than either species.
- "Disordered". M'gann freaks out when Black Canary says she turned white.
- There is one way this theory can be worse: M'gann's mother is a White Martian. Her father is J'onn's Evil Twin from the comics, Malefic.
- In "Secrets", a classmate at Megan's high school Halloween party said that Martians aren't hostile. Megan turned away with a disconcerting look on her face.
- The same episode has Megan in a costume that has white skin. A possible case of For Halloween, I Am Going as Myself.
- In the tie-in comics, she says that J'onn is the relative she's closest to and that she won a competition to be his partner. In "Secrets", Red Arrow says that Black Canary says that J'onn says that while she is his niece, he'd never met her before she stowed away on his last trip from Mars.
- An upcoming episode "Image" is going to be M'gann-centric, and apparently include her struggling with a big secret. Everything this troper has heard about the episode, including the title, indicates it's to do with her being a White Martian.
- CONFIRMED.
- ... Of course. It's so obvious! How could I have not seen it sooner?
- If that's true, then she has failed. She decided to quit the team and as a superhero out of guilt. But Kid Flash was there to comfort her.
- Definitely jossed.
- Alternate theory: he's only pretending to be a villain to get info from the villains. Much like Connor Hawke's brief membership to the Injustice Gang.
- Hey just being Crazy WMG but we have Cadmus as a villain, cloning, and then a female Green Arrow comes in when they just introduced Speedy. What if Artemis IS Speedy after some genentic tinkering from Cadmus...
- He is a Manchurian Agent, but otherwise a hero.
- Seven members indeed. It's Zatanna who is the seventh.
- Alternately, it will just end like it did in the original comics with Superboy briefly Brainwashed and Crazy under Luthor's influence, and Young Justice pulling an "I Know You're in There Somewhere" Fight on him.
- Hasn't he already being Brainwashed and Crazy?
- Re-Brainwashed and Crazy then?
- Hasn't he already being Brainwashed and Crazy?
- Or possibly go in the other direction with Superboy going on a berserker rage on Luthor, blaming HIM for not being acknowledged by Superman, similar to how in some situations children will blame one parent to be the reason why the parent they want to be loved by does not receive it.
- In "Disordered", when Superboy told Black Canary about his emotions during the psychic training. When he believed his friends had truly died, he wasn't grieving, he was "at peace". Likely, his Luthor side is glad to see the heroes dead.
- His genetics being responsible for his emotional state? I don't think so.
- CONFIRMED
- Partially Jossed — Ted Kord refused to have anything to do with the Scarab and locked it up, and was killed by the Reach as a way of bringing it back into play.
- Fridge Brilliance: Real-life: The Robin character was created to bring light to Batman's dark.
- Alternatively, he got overexposed to Joker's toxin at some time in the past and some of the effects lingered. It certainly sounds a bit creepy.
- It's likely a reference to the fact that Robin was inspired by Robin Hood and Robin Goodfellow.
- In episode 6 it was like he had a compulsion to laugh at superboy, and had to cover his mouth, and episode five when Him and flash are argueing it seems more creepy. So, he's got of Joker venom in his system and it's got lasting effect, Maybe the laugh is a warning sign of his sanity, the more he laughs, the more Joker-y he gets.
- In episode 6 he might have just thought seeing superboy get beaten by a badass normal like Black Canary funny and tried to cover up his laughing because aqualad tried to encourage him to stop. He is just 13 afterall and not everyone can refrain from laughing when something seems really funny to them.
- The Thanagarian part was confirmed by Word of God
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- Don't forget The Cast Showoff
- Probably jossed. It was stated that it was his mixed DNA keeping Superboy from having his full powers. You never know though. Somthing could happen.
- Remember that the "mixed DNA" statement was made by fork-tongued Lex Luthor and could be a lie. Superboy could gain his full powers as he ages.
- It's possible this could still happen now that Superboy broke up with Megan.
- Who?
- The scientist from the first two episodes, the one Guardian appoints as acting head scientist of Cadmus. In the comics, Amanda Spence was a Superboy villain who ended up murdering his girlfriend Tana Moon.
- She reappeared in "Agendas". And is pretty aggressive towards Superboy. The attack on Cadmus by the Light in "Auld Acquaintance" may be the catalyst that'll lead her into villainy.
- Ultimately jossed, she hasn't yet turned evil.
- Alternately, Robin will undergo a several episode to seasonal 10-Minute Retirement due to a Heroic BSoD and return as Nightwing.
- As of season two Tim Drake is Robin, Dick Grayson is Nightwing and there is a memorial to a Robin in Mount Justice so we can assume Jason Todd has died in the line of duty.
- Jossed, they found out over the Time Skip by some unknown circumstances.
- He has blue eyes in the tie-in comic that came out earlier this month. Artemis may not have blue eyes given that all we've seen of her has been old promo images. They changed Aqualad's eye color from blue to gray, they could have changed Artemis' too.
- Turns out they did change Artemis' eyes. She has black/brown eyes now.
- They didn't actually change Aqualad's eye color. Gray eyes are known to look blue or green sometimes depending on lighting.
- Artemis and Kaldur's changing eye colours (and Wally's sometimes-red-sometimes-brownish hair) can be attributed to colouring errors in the animating and the drawing of the comics.
- Robin has blue eyes in "Downtime."
- Given that his profile on the Young Justice website
lists his secret identity as Conner Kent, this most likely will happen. The only question is when and how.
- This theory about how his name is Conner Kent was jossed by "Targets"- J'onn gave him the name 'Kent', (M'gann though it was after Kent Nelson). But, that doesn't mean that Superboy will never move in with the Kents in the show.
- Semi-confirmed in season two. The team stays with the Kents after their main base has been destroyed.
- Or perhaps he believed Superboy was created out of fears that Superman will become evil.
- This troper does have to wonder if the rest of the Justice League has just forgotten that Superman has a poor track record when it comes to clones/doppelgangers/duplicates of any kind.
- Except it's entirely possible that in this universe Superboy is the first clone/doppelganger/duplicate of Superman to exist.
- Actually, he's not. Match is.
- This troper does have to wonder if the rest of the Justice League has just forgotten that Superman has a poor track record when it comes to clones/doppelgangers/duplicates of any kind.
- Yes, because X-ray vision can be used to look at your DNA. And Superman knows what Luthor's DNA looks like.
- You'd be surprised at just how ridiculous Clark's 'X-ray' vision has gotten before...
- Or he could use his telescopic vision. Which he most certainly can use to see things on a microscopic scale.
- But that still wouldn't help him figure out he might have Luthor DNA.
- X-ray Crystallography
assuming Superman can do on the fly structural analysis for organic chemistry he would be able to determine the sequence. This would be the best use of x-ray vision ever if true!
- Professor Ivo escaped, and will obviously make more. And because there will be so many of them, they'll be taken down easily due to Conservation of Ninjutsu.
- OOOOOOOR this will be a mid season or full season finale. It will be Epic, and some of the teens won't survive.
- Like Artemis, Connor (the second Green Arrow, son of Oliver Queen and a half-Korean/half-African-American woman) is blonde. His part-Asian ancestry could be close enough to Artemis being half-Vietnamese.
- Both Miss Martian and Artemis are called the nieces of their respective adult counterparts. In the comics, M'gann is not really J'onn's niece but of a different Martian race, and it remains to be seen whether the show will reflect this. In Artemis's case, it may be possible that "niece" is also a cover... for "daughter"?
- If Artemis does turn out to be "Connie" and she's the first one to die, perhaps Superboy later takes the name "Conner" in her memory.
- Jossed. He took on the name Conner in "Targets" when M'gann suggested it.
- Robin could or could not have been aware of this plan.
- Brought to you by the man himself.
- At which point Superboy will start wearing a proper costume modeled after Superman's.
- It might even resemble Kell-El's suit.
- Think about it for a second. If she really is a mole for "The Light," then it'd make sense for her to be the child of Sportsmaster and the original Tigress. However, given her reaction and dialogue with Cheshire in "The Inflitrator," she might be the daughter of her and Green Arrow in this universe, with the creators of the show naming her after Roy and Cheshire's late daughter from the comics. It makes a lot more sense than the first one, mainly because the show's creators have already confirmed that Artemis is half-Vietnamese, and Cheshire's origns put her as a full-Vietnamese assassin who's had ties to the Green Arrow Family in the past.
- Roy is 18...Artemis isn't far from his age.
- Not saying she's his kid, just saying they might have used Lian's name for her civilian identity is all. Her dad might be Green Arrow for all we know.
- As of "Downtime" it would seem she really is Artemis Crock. She opens a letter addressed to that name, anyhow.
- Her "tombstone" in "Satisfaction" confirms that her full name is Artemis Lian Crock. And now you know where this continuity's version of Lian gets her name from.
- In further evidence for this, they both seem to have a similar hair-type. If only we can get Artemis's hair out of that ponytail for more proof...
- Artemis's Mother and Cheshire are both voiced by Kelly Hu.
- Artemis has a sister, as confirmed in Young Justice #7, the tie-in comic when Paula Crock mentions she "lost one daughter" while she "was gone" in jail. Considering Greg Weisman once answered a question about Artemis's origin's with 'Look out for Young Justice #7' I'm pretty sure it's canon.
- It was confirmed in "Homefront"
- Flashbacks in Home Front further confirm this. At this point, we can also trace that Sportsmaster/Crusher Crock & Paula Brooks are their parents alongside that her mom was most likely Tigress in the past.
- Since the Light represent Light Is Not Good, there will be a Good Counterpart that is not the Justice League.
- Somewhat subverted with the League of Shadows
- With the cameos from Icon and Rocket and the rumor that Rocket will join the team, my money's on another Milestone immigrant, The Shadow Cabinet, a tam described by their creators as "The Justice League meets The CIA" and a sort of proto-Authority.
- Jossed because she is actually Artemis Crock.
- Either it will be a clue to distinguish the real Red Tornado from an android double or the cartoon series will follow the comics and he will have a human life with a family.
- Pretty much solely because they are both shipped with Wally. It's a plus that both Linda and Artemis come from Asian backgrounds. This would be a vastly different backstory for Linda, but that's why this is just a WMG.
- The problem with that is that Park is not a Vietnamese surname.
- True, but Word of God says that she's half-Vietnamese and half-Caucasian, and Park is also an English surname.
- The problem with that is that Park is not a Vietnamese surname.
- Jossed. She is Artemis Crock.
- Though after the latest episode in which a Fakingthe Dead Artemis has her hair change to black. We just have to wait to see if she gets a fake name.
- He was supposed to have passed on Dr. Fate's Helmet to someone more worthy of it. He could be punished for his Neglect.
- Well, let's take a look at the possible DCU candidates that could come to Wally's mind:
- Zatara: Most likely will/did turn it down
- Zatanna: Too young, not ready for it yet
- The Wizard Shazaam: Most likely will/did turn it down
- Ragman: Most likely will/did turn it down
- John Constintine: No more worthy of it than Klarion
- Raven: Too big of a risk/temptation, especially when Trigon is active
- Brother Blood: No
- In short, the only possible worthy successors to spring to Wally's mind at the moment are Billy Batson (when he takes over as the next Shazaam, assuming that the events leading up to Infinite Crisis happen on schedule, which may take a while since Barry Allen's still alive and kicking) and Timothy Hunter, who's evem younger than Zatanna at the moment and in a metafictional context would draw way too many comparisons to Harry Potter from random
Fan Dumb.
- You're forgetting a candidate that Wally's sure to think of... Detective Chimp.
- Well, let's take a look at the possible DCU candidates that could come to Wally's mind:
- Alternately, by the end of the season, Wally will have an fully stocked Chekhov's Armory.
- Partially confirmed in "Homefront", when Artemis used the arrow he collected against the Red androids.
- In "Revelation" they do bring the Helmet of Fate as a Plan B.
- Partially confirmed in "Homefront", when Artemis used the arrow he collected against the Red androids.
- Instead of becoming angstier and broodier over time, he'll lighten up and become a flirty, cocky solo Legacy Character like the 90s Superboy.
- Jack Kirby worked briefly for DC in the 1970's, creating the New Gods (and its sister series, Mister Miracle and The Forever People). He also created the series Kamandi, OMAC, Kobra and The Demon, and worked on (believe it or not) Superman's Pal, Jimmy Olsen. None of these runs lasted long, but the characters introduced in them have been reused often. In this show, so far we've seen:
- The DNA Project (now known as Cadmus) including the characters of The Guardian and Dubbilex (both created by Kirby) from Jimmy Olsen;
- Kobra;
- Klarion The Witch Boy, a villain from The Demon.
- And now, what looks like a boom tube, a teleportation system from New Gods, was shown...
It could be a coincidence so far, but it's curious to see so much of Kirby's more obscure work appear in one animated show. Let's see if anybody else from those comics shows up.
- Technically, the stuff about Cadmus is also a reference to Superboy; Superboy was created by Cadmus in the comics, and Dubbilex was a supporting character in Superboy's comic book. Of course, that itself was probably a homage to Kirby, so it's all recursive.
- "Disordered" includes another major Kirby homage, with the Forever People as the centerpiece of the episode.
- More New Gods stuff pops up in later seasons, with season 4 also bringing in Etrigan himself. It also features a more direct reference to Kirby, the titles of episodes in Rocket's arc, centered around New Genesis, are titled like the excited titles he chose for his comic stories
- By which I mean their "Black Ops" title is just made to sound cool and they were assigned to this team because they didn't want any more cases like Speedy. In actuality their missions are just missions that the regular League deemed safe enough to let their kids handle. Just take a look at the fact that their missions have all been escort, recon, and fetch missions that spun out of control.
- This actually makes sense; why would Batman trust novices with Black Ops missions? And it would be a hell of a twist, making Red Arrow be right all along.
- And when the truth comes out, cue Rage Against the Mentor all around.
- But, if this really was the case, why would Batman allow the team to lead the charge to defeat The Injustice League, or let them go into an international hot zone, or partake in government counter-espionage, or lead the attacks on heavily armed super fortresses? If Young Justice was originally meant as a safe mission spot, it certainly has evolved to be a real shadow arm of the League by now.
- This actually makes sense; why would Batman trust novices with Black Ops missions? And it would be a hell of a twist, making Red Arrow be right all along.
- It could also be that eyeball Wally swiped from the Bromwell Stikk android that was operating the "Mr. Twister" armor, since we already saw that Stikk and T.O. Morrow were able to use it to observe the suit's performance against the team, as well as detect the presence of the original Red Tornado. Who's to say that someone like the Brain or Professor Ojo (the guy with optic-blasts working for the League of Shadows/Assassins) didn't reverse engineer the connection from it to enable the eye to transmit while seemingly "off-line" as far as Young Justice is concerned?
- Despite that they are supposed to be a covert operations team, in each mission so far Young Justice has resorted to the standard flashy and explosive form of superhero combat, only really using stealth during the beginning of their missions. The actual purpose of Young Justice is to distract the Light and other hidden supervillain organisations and cause them to spend their resources fighting them, while a second team, possibly a version of the Outsiders, performs actual covert work against the Light. Eventually the team will discover Batman's deception and will rebel against his authority and reorganise their team, possibly becoming completely independent of the Justice League and/or shifting their efforts to uncovering the supervillain conspiracy instead of just being sent by Batman to disrupt their activities.
- Wally will finally pull his head out of his ass in regards to magic and pass the helmet of Fate on to Madame Xanadu who was said to have the "perfect aura" for magic.
- Jossed.
- They never mentioned his mother but told us about Black Manta, so she's probably important. It is...
- A random Atlantean. Either an accomplice or just stupid enough to sleep with Black Manta.
- Aquaman a la cloning. For the entertainment value.
- Queen Mera. But he doesn't know it. Aquaman may or may not know it. Whether it happened before or after she married Aquaman is unimportant - either way, she gave the child up. Now she regrets giving him up and is happy that Aquaman is watching over her child.
- YJ 2011 comics confirm that Aqualad's mom is Sha'lain'a from Shayeris.
- Siren A.K.A. Hila. Queen Mera's twin sister.
- For example Robin will be either Nightwing or Batman, seeing it probably won't be him who gets sent to the future.
- Aqualad will became the new Aquaman or the new Black Manta.
- Wally will take up being the Flash or its him who was sent to a future where he was killed.
- Superboy will either be dead or will be Lex Luthor’s Dragon, having taken over most of the world.
- Roy will either have a daughter or will be Arsenal. Along with having a robotic arm.
- Miss Martian will be a White Martian who has destroyed most of the world and is the cause of the future.
- I'd say it's unlikely they'll have an episode with someone sent to the future. They want to avoid too many comparisons with Teen Titans, and Teen Titans had an episode like that. Robin was Nightwing and everyone's life pretty much sucked.
- Or they could send someone even further into the future, where instead of meeting Nightwing they would meet Terry McGinnis.
- Wrong continuity.
- Not the DCAU version of Terry McGinnis, but rather a counterpart of him in the YJ universe.
- Or they could send someone even further into the future, where instead of meeting Nightwing they would meet Terry McGinnis.
- With Robin opperating on his own, Batman has already recruited Tim Drake as Robin II, just not informed Robin of it. When he does, Robin I will become Nightwing.
- Jason Todd is recruited as the second Robin because as an orphan living on the streets no will miss him unlike Tim Drake who canonically has parents.
- But Robin #1 seems to live with him. Assuming that Jason would live in Batman's house, how could Dick not know about him if Bruce had already picked him up? It's possible that Batman's already got his eye on Jason as a new sidekick, but hasn't told anyone yet, though. That would certainly make things interesting when Dick finds out...
- Well, Tim Drake is definitely Robin now after the timeskip and Dick Grayson is Nightwing with hints of Jason Todd's death.
- Jason Todd is recruited as the second Robin because as an orphan living on the streets no will miss him unlike Tim Drake who canonically has parents.
- A bit obvious, really. Why else would she get an exclusive scholarship when she didn't even apply? It could be part of a Batman Gambit to test Artemis and make sure she's trustworthy.
- I had the same thought, in fact I was going to name this entry just "Starro Lives Starro Lives Starro Lives *blank stare*" But more to the point they also say they reached it telepathically so my additional WMG is either Aquaman or Aqualad will have a sudden "why didn't I do this sooner" moment and use fish telepathy to stop Starro cold when he rampages, probably Aqualad as it's a power he has no demonstrated so far and would be a good power upgrade that isn't over powering and would make a CMOA.
- The Other Wiki agrees with this WMG at the moment.
- Confirmed in episode 19, when the Light recovers a piece of Starro.
- Possibly as an ally of the Light (or as a villain like Bane, who has his own agenda in opposition to the Light). However, he will be based more on his comic counterpart to make him distinct from his Teen Titans (2003) appearances. The name could go either way- censorship seems a bit looser for this show than for Titans, so they might be able to get "Deathstroke" through, or he might simply be "Slade" again.
- It would be cool if Ron Perlman would voice his character again!
- Confirmed in season two. He's voiced by Wentworth Miller.
- Superboy is acting happy after having his memory restored, something we have never seen before. It's possible Megan's personality and feelings rubbed off on Superboy somewhat.
- Could be possible, since her comics counterpart defeated her evil-future!self through messages of love and cuteness.
- She could also have transferred how much she likes Superboy and wanted him to like her back. Since only an episode before he'd have rather have watched TV static, and now they're almost kissing? Only explanation.
- Perhaps she is accidentally psychically forcing him to like her?
- Clearly she accidentally downloaded every episode of Hello Megan! into Superboy's brain. As a result he developed a crush on the title character and by extension the girl constantly cosplaying as her - Miss Martian.
- Or she deliberately implanted fake memories and/or emotions in his head to make him like her.
- Jossed by Word of God
- The Light wasn't trying to create a bridge between dimensions but were trying to move through time to further their agenda. That's why the Sphere reacted to Superboy's pain and why it automatically defended him. It recognized his Kyryptonian DNA and responded accordingly.
- Then why did it arrive via Boom Tube?
- Jossed, Sphere is from New Genesis.
- There's laughter that follows her catchphrase "Hello, Megan!" It's a laugh track for a show that she watched and studied Earth culture from. And since the character's name was so similiar to hers, she changed her appearance to fit the actress's, thus explaining why she's hiding her true form.
- The television in Artemis's home actually mentions the show by name, "Hello Megan." It's probably going to be the cartoon's version of "Wendy the Werewolf Stalker."
- There's fanon of the canon Show Within a Show, and it now has it's own page Hello Megan!.
- The girl is also of a pale complexion, while Megan is green in Earth form. It's obviously a Show Within a Show and Megan based herself on her.
- Robin has probably dealt with Clayface before with Batman. So why not eliminate the most potential threat first, then finish off the rest of the team who are inexperienced with fighting against him.
- According to the solicit for the tie-in comic, this will be Clayface's "origin." Batman and Robin have never faced him before.
- Perhaps the others felt a bit abandoned and angry after she just left them on their own to save Superboy. And this may effect their teamwork in future episodes.
- Deathstroke's a villain who has a long history, both in comics and other media, with the junior heroes of the DCU, so it'd only make sense for him to show up in Young Justice (2010), and Artemis has already commented that her dad trained her to kill. Not only that, Artemis's "mom" in the show is Southeast Asian, but she might not be her real mom. Rose's backstory of Deathstroke having met her mother on a mission in Cambodia would then fit, it'd make sense for Artemis/Rose's mom, to have given her to a Cambodian friend to protect her from her dad. And most of all, Deathstroke and Green Arrow have a history, so Green Arrow adopting Artemis as her protege to steer him away from Deathstroke's influence would make sense.
- Probably one of the alien members from the comics, like Lobo.
- The sphere contains Krypto. A (Super)boy and his dog. It just has to happen
- But in "Alpha Male", M'gann said: "Isn't [Krypto] already taken?", suggesting that Krypto already exists in this 'verse.
- The Secret from "A World without Grown-ups"
- Ultimately jossed, Sphere is just a sentient robot from New Genesis.
- It's happened in the Weisman-helmed Gargoyles and The Spectacular Spider-Man, so there's a better than normal chance that one will appear here as well.
- I was JUST about to post this.
- Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand confirmed, as of episode 4 of the second season. Wow. Good job, guys.
Events as follows: 1) Comedian drowning his sorrows over the US pulling out of the country, ignoring government orders to bounce out of the country; 2) follows superheroes are to help in the evac, with at least one or two confronting the Comedian in his current sad state; 3) young pregnant farm girl comes in, wanting him to stay to take care of the baby after he knocked her up; 4) built up sorrow and anger builds up to where he shoots the girl right in the stomach right in front of the hero(es); 5) half of the heroes jump into action, with the girl being first priority and the second being kicking the Comedian's ass followed by dragging him back to the states kicking and screaming.
The pregnant farm girl, of course, dies from a combination of factors, emergency C-Section is done, and thanks to the hero(es) efforts, the baby is saved, though now disabled. Said child grows up and eventually has a daughter herself, named Artemis.....
- Jossed, it's Sportsmaster's daughter.
- Confirmed. He appeared in "Agendas".
- And we all know how Ollie "helps" women... Bow chicka bow wow...
- Ew.
- Supported by the tie-in comic Young Justice #7 which reveals Paula Crock has been away for six years (heavily alluded to be in jail) apparently taking "the fall" for Artemis's father, crippling herself in the process and has made a decision to give up "the life". Also confirmed in Artemis' flashback during "Homefront"
- Confirmed in part. Green Arrow isn't her father.
- Confirmed in Agendas
- Well, they've already met the Joker, and been to Belle Reeve...
1. The superheroes during the 40's killed a good amount of the supervillians and vice versa.
2. One of the multiverse crisises effected Earth 16 someway while it was in the 40's. So a bunch of heroes and villians teamed up to stop it and most of them didn't survived.
3.The public only regarded the mystery men and the J.S.A as urban legends.
4.The J.S.A could've fought in Europe during WW 2 against Nazi supervillians but they disbanded after a registration act was passed. However there is a big gap between the 1940's and the 2000's and what happened to the supervillians.
5. Alan Scott could've been an member of the Green Lantern Corps.
6. The Spectre returned to heaven or purgatory and that’s why Earth 16 is the shape that it’s in.
- As of episode 8 Jay Garrick/The first Flash has been confirmed to exist and still be alive on this Earth so guess 4 currently seems like the most plausible explination.
- It's a Greg Weisman show. It'll be A Midsummer Night's Dream if Gargoyles and The Spectacular Spider-Man are anything to go by, but who knows? (Hmm, can we match up the respective Love Dodecahedrons?)
- Bonus points if they have either Batmite from Batman: The Brave and the Bold or Mr. Mxyzptlk in the role of Puck.
- Would you admit your race was enslaving and killing the real Green Skinned Space Babes?
- In the tie-in comic Young Justice #6 Megan claims both her parents are green but she was raised in a "liberal household". How defensive she was being is open to interpretation.
- Of course, there are other ways that could all be technically true.
- She was correct all along according to later episodes, so jossed.
- Yes, because believing in magic is a great way of showing maturity.
- Hey, magic is Serious Business in the DCU.
Clayface hopped up on venom steroids. And if that isn't bad enough, Dr. Destiny is aiding him on favor for The Light. This Dr. Destiny being more like the DD from Neil Gaiman's Sandman. The Justice League swoops in to save the day and make sure the kids are alright. When the leave, this happens. Zatara steps in to mindwipe Clayface and Dr. Destiny. But DD, he goes furthur and mindwipes himself so much he becomes almost lobotomized. The League in turn decides for the good of the team, keep this secret. The Light goes in to comment on this saying "We may have lost a key player, we have gained something far greater".
- This would have been awesome, but the Halloween episode has already passed.
- Think about it, she's begging for Artemis to take the opportunity she never had because her father Sportsmaster paralyzed her, possibly after a teenage pregnancy.
- At least the cake's honest
- ...Meaning that M'gann is The Mole.
- Jossed, it's a real sitcom.
- With Rocket showing up in concept art, it is only natural that they will add her mentor, Icon. This means that Icon will finally join the Justice League, naturally.
- He might not be part of the Justice League, but he appeared in "Revelations"
- Confirmed in "Usual Suspects".
- Jossed by Word of God.
- Apokolips has been known to infiltrate criminal gangs and brainwash people...
- Debunked, the Light are not brainwashed.
- Or, better yet, Damian's mother Talia al Ghul will be a member of the Light and her son will be a pawn in their game. They send Damian up against his father and the Young Justice team. Cue the father-son angst (between Damian, Bruce and Dick).
- Confirmed, as Damian appears as an infant in season 3.
- It's also possible that the leader of the Light (L-1, presumably, though the numbers may not reflect actual rank) is using some sort of mind control on the others in order to get a number of heavyweight supervillains together while avoiding the sort of internecine conflict that such alliances usually get mired in. Of course, when the others find out, they'll likely be less than pleased.
- Jossed, they have free will.
- Deconfirmed, he is good.
At the time that Artemis "happened", Artemis' mother was still the villain Tigress (think Roy and Cheshire in the comics), and Ollie's ashamed of it. Then he met his daughter (and her mother) later in life, saw how Paula (Tigress) had reformed and how she didn't want her daughter to make the same mistakes that she did, and agreed to mentor Artemis. Artemis may or may not have grown up aware of this, and may or may not have believed Sportsmaster to be her biological dad until Green Arrow came along.
Of course, neither want anyone else to know about this, so they insisted that Artemis was Ollie's niece. Ollie especially doesn't want Red Arrow to know, for fear of angering him and widening the rift between them.
Also, they're both blond.
- Deconfirmed, it is still Sportsmaster.
- He's the Riddler, so he's probably bound to figure something out before anyone else does.
- Riddler doesn't exactly do much, but he does help the Light acquire the Starro tech and briefly fights the Team in one episode.
- Jossed. He works for The Light
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Cheshire: wouldn't be a surprise, especially given her implied connection to Artemis
Icicle Jr.: They made him something of an interesting character in "Terrors", and it would be a shame to waste him.
- Also hilarious for comics fans - the comic version of Artemis (Tigress III) was romantically involved with Icicle Jr.
Talia Al Ghul her father is a part of the Light so it would make sense for her to show up at some point, and this would be the perfect opportunity to introduce her in the show.
- Talia's usually around Bruce's age, since she's generally used as a romantic interest and/or foil for him. But that doesn't mean she couldn't be mission control as a counterpart to the team's "den mothers".
- As of Episode 35: Its Kaldur, The REAL Terror Twins, Tigress, and Icicle
- Linda Park
- Greta Hayes
- Cissy King
- Cassandra Cain
- Confirmed, in a sense. Red Torpedo and Red Inferno weren't exactly nice robots themselves. At least not until Red Tornado re-awakened their Chronic Hero Syndrome, and they pulled an Heroic Sacrifice to save humanity.
- Though Jossed in that this version of Red Tornado has no secret identity or human family.
- In "Insecurities", though, he's shown to be working on an android body with which he intends to take the identity John Smith.
- His daughter Traya does ultimately appear in season 3.
- Nah, it's Cassie.
- Which Hawkman and Hawkgirl?
- Carter and Shiera Hall
- Okay, just wanted to be clear. If he shows up, he won't be happy about it much. Mostly because, like in the comics, Hector resents his parents focusing too much on their careers as archaeologists and superheroes.
- Alternately, Hector is the son of Katar and Shayera Hol. His Thanagarian name is Hro Hol, whom Shayera named after her former ex-lover.
- Carter and Shiera Hall
- Confirmed to a degree. In Misplaced he shows himself much more cunning and bordeline Magnificent Bastard. His "petulant psychotic child" shtick is still there, but its hinted its more of a act for shits and giggles in his part
- Because who else could think that far ahead? Alternatively, it's Xanatos himself.
- Judging from "Revelation" the head of the Light is Vandal Savage. And who better to foresee long-term effects and benefits than an immortal?
- You mean Owlman from Earth-3 or Wrath?
- Nope, it's Vandal Savage.
- I base this off of two things: Peter David made a reference to Secret showing up, and episode 18 is named "Secrets".
- Very likely since her brother Harm will show up in the episode.
- Confirmed.
- Very likely since her brother Harm will show up in the episode.
The reason he's one of the Light in order to achieve this is because: 1) Obfuscating Stupidity reason as above, and 2) even though he's a being of immense magical ability, Darkseid can STILL kick his ASS, the only disadvantage is that he's still of physical being and cannot follow Klarion in the spiritual realm to finish the job.
This WMG then leads to.......
- He actually formed his partnership with Vandal millenia ago, if anything, he's no mole.
This will give out a few revelations. First and foremost is Dr. Fate's own Blue-and-Orange Morality, who places Order above all else and thus is that desperate to be useful again, even as someone's bitch. Second is the revelation that Fate was only a superhero and protected Earth because of humanity's general preference towards Order rather than Chaos and was first awakened by Kent Nelson during its more turbulent times. Lastly, the kicker, is that the Lord of Orders have been all been supportive of Darkseid since the beginning, seeing him as the grand epitome of universal order, not caring about how he goes about it.
- Jossed. He did not pull a Face–Heel Turn. In the end Zatara became his host in a Take Me Instead move to save his daughter. However, Nabu did prove itself to be a Well-Intentioned Extremist and the epitome of Good Is Not Nice in his mission of Order Versus Chaos
- The circumstances leading up to the Face–Heel Turn may have been Jossed, but the end result remains to be seen until Darkseid himself appears......
- It doesn't help that Nabu was actually a son of Vandal Savage, though rather than being evil, Nabu has Earth's interests in order as a hero.
- Or they'll wear him frequently enough that Fate will stop trying to body snatch them, because hey, he has six teens who are willing to regularly let him take their body for short periods of time. He doesn't need to bodysnatch.
- Jossed. Zatara became the new Doctor Fate in a Take Me Instead move to save his daughter
...C'mon, it's hilarious.
- Living machine, so nope.
- Confirmed in "Image".
Then he was interrupted by Ojo, but if he hadn't been, he would have gone up to her and started flirting or something.
The Light, a massive conspiracy, are the main villains, and it seems that from what was published of the Gargoyle comics and what Weisman has said in interviews, the Illuminati were going to be the main villains of the third season of Gargoyles. Also, one of the planned Gargoyles spin offs was about aliens invading Earth in the future and the main characters forming La Résistance. The second season is titles "Invasion," and may deal with a similar storyline.
And it will serve to deconstruct the Kid Hero and Child Soldier tropes. Aside from some typical thirteen-year-old immaturity, he's almost scary competent at what he does. Even when he's cooperating with the group or whenever Kaldur is somehow out of commission, he tends to be the one who figures out the what and how of the situation. Yet he says himself in "Homefront" that he's been a superhero since he was nine, and Artemis calls him out for being unnaturally calm in the face of all of their friends dying. In "Failsafe," he sends Superboy on a suicide mission and uses Kid Flash's denial to manipulate him and Miss Martian into destroying an alien mothership while letting them and Martian Manhunter believe it's a rescue mission. And he denies none of it, makes no excuse. He wakes up in a cold sweat, and we know from the tie-in comics that thinking about why he became Robin (i.e., his entire family save one uncle dying, and that uncle being too injured to care for him) causes him to be unusually moody and quiet.
Greg Weisman has also said that the series will continue doing single-character focus episodes right up until ep. 124, which he revealed will be called "Performance." Dick is a performer, both in his old life as a circus acrobat, and his new life as Robin, the Boy Wonder. And what better time to reveal him as a Broken Ace than right before the season finale?
- He did have a bit of a breakdown during his session with Black Canary in "Disordered". I wouldn't be surprised if this is building up to an even bigger one.
- Actually, all we know about the Light's extraterrestrial involvement so far is that they have Boom Tubes. That means (as suggested by another WMG above and possibly supported by the Sphere's origin on New Genesis) that they could just as easily be getting tech from New Genesis as from Apokolips. How better to play up Darkseid as a serious threat than to force both heroes and villains alike to join forces against him?
- The problem with that is that "Disordered" outright says that Sphere was stolen from New Genesis and then delivered to the Light via Boom Tube. Unless someone on New Genesis has a really weird plan going, that makes it look like it's Darkseid and/or one of his top minions (Desaad? He did show up in "Disordered"...) that's involved.
- It could be someone on New Genesis working with the Light without official knowledge or sanction. Maybe Orion?
- While that theory is plausible, given that this is an alternate version of what we know as New Earth from the comics, I'd say that's highly unlikely. Orion hates Darkseid, hates anyone from Apokalips for that matter, but especially his father. There's no way he'd willingly aid him. Besides, an outright invasion of earth violates the pact that Darkseid made with Izaya the Highfather, which would cause retaliation from New Genesis against the forces of Apokalips. However, it is possible that one of the Gods of Apokalips has assumed the guise of one of those of New Genesis. My money would be on Kanto. He's a master of disguise, and an unparalleled assassin.
- It's not Kanto, it's Metron. He's got a soft spot for Luthor historically.
- It could be someone on New Genesis working with the Light without official knowledge or sanction. Maybe Orion?
- In the season finale, Savage explains the problem with the Justice League is that it protects the status quo at the cost of natural selection. Based on that, it's unlikely Savage would be interested in creating a team to fight off an outside threat (barring, of course, hypocrisy on his part).
- Half-confirmed in "Image". Megan is hiding her identity as a white martian, but she mostly seems driven by the fact that she's afraid all her friends and mentors will be terrified by her true form, and banish her.
- What kind of plot twist is that? "This team, who's name was never stated or anything, has a different name! Exciting!" The could start calling the team "The Awesome Guys!" and it still wouldn't be a plot twist.
- Word of God, while it cites the Titans as an influence, has also confirmed that the team doesn't have an official name since they're not in the public eye. Young Justice is the show, but our heroes are just "the Team".
- Alternatively, make it the actual Superboy-Prime. He ended up slipping through the Source and crashing into the Young Justice (2010) verse. The Light will use him as their agent, promising them that they'll send him back into his home dimension(just to show they mean it, they'll be seen already working on it.) Prime will be greatly depowered, but still able to butt heads with Superboy. Given his No Fourth Wall, he'll use it to his advantage. Expect the writers to try and make him popular.
- While Superboy-Prime is still a no show, one role of his is fulfilled when Lor-Zod tries to kill Superboy.
So, as Superboy and Superman's relationship gets better (as this troper presumes it will eventually), Robin and Batman's relationship will start to sour slowly over over the course of the show, accumulating in a big argument, perhaps Robin leaving Bruce and maybe even becoming Nightwing (hey, a troper can dream, right?).
- This would make my life.
- Confirmed by Child.
- Sorta jossed, Joker's next episode, all the way in season 4, is more or less a commentary on his lack of use in the show that doubles as a subverted take on The Killing Joke, as the Light were far less willing to work with him.
- Admittedly jossed, as fortunately the Justice League doesn't draw the lines for a while, and Vertigo even returns in season 3.
- His pet monkey is also biting him repeatedly during that scene...
- This troper believes that it will still take the accident to actually catylize the change...
- Confirmed.
- Jossed as of Wondercon 2012. It's definitely and unquestionably an alien invasion.
- This is because only white martions may unleash H'ronmeer's curse, the illusion/sensation of burning onto Green Martians. M'gann even did this to J'onnz in the season finale.
- It's confirmed he'll be in the first episode of "Invasion". We'll have to wait on the other parts, though...
- Hopefully he'll be voiced by Brad Garrett! He may also voice Bibbo.
- Confirmed in season 2.
- Confirmed if being addicted to searching for the original Speedy counts.
- He runs out, and no additional side effects, so jossed.
- If not then, during Season 2 at the latest.
- Also not confirmed, they are still the Team.
- Jossed, as Mars doesn't play a part, though there is a Reach Martian involved, Green Beetle.
- Luckily, this never happens.
They know that an alien invasion is coming and wanted to take over the world quickly and efficiently so as to rally the Earth's defenses against the invaders. When the Light is defeated and carted away to prison, Luthor will probably say something like, "You think this over? You have no idea what's coming. I promise, by the end, you will wish you'd let us do our job and save the Earth. Now we're all doomed, thanks to you." as Foreshadowing for the next season.
- You don't understand. The Light, bar Klarion are human-speciesist extremists. They triggered the alien invasion because 1) they believe we'd win and 2) they believe we'd become stronger through it. They don't realize they're fucking up a bunch of planets so Darkseid can conquer them.
He's not in the roster when they all bowed down to Vandal Savage...it's possible he evaded capture.
- Or he was there, but just too small to notice.
- Jossed. We see him in the season finale, being controlled by Vandal.
- It's the same line-up!
- They were sent to rampage in space, though that is the same lineup.
- Sportsmaster is ultimately the father. But, given the revelation of Lian, Artemis is a niece either way.
- Somewhat confirmed, the rampaging Leaguers are why many alien factions know about Earth.
- Either it will be the clone looking to make his own identity or the original for the same reason
- On the topic of the Roys, perhaps the clone will take on the civilian name of Connor Hawke, the second Green Arrow in the comics. The first name could be an in-universe reference to Superboy, also a clone and his name.
- And as Connor Hawke, he will have to dye his hair blond, which then makes it a nod to Ben Reilly.
- Confirmed. The original Roy takes the name as of the end of "Satisfaction," leaving Clone!Roy as Red Arrow.
It didn't go well.
They tried to copy Superman, so it stands to reason that they'd do it to Batman as well. Being the Crazy-Prepared badass that he is however Batman staved off any risks cloing posed by adding an emnzyme to his blood that caused his DNA to degrade when removed from his body. In order to fill in the gaps in his genetic code Cadmus turned to the one man whose managaed to beat him; The Joker. Unfortunately the end result created a giggling, hyper violent, borderline pedophilic Batman with a fondness for eating rats.
His name was Crazy Steve. (If Roy's missing arm is anything to go by we'll be seeing Arsenal down the line so a run in with the Audience-Alienating Era Anti-Hero version of Batman is a disntict possibility.)
Thoroughly ashamed of creating this insane abomination, the Light froze him in the vaults of Cadmus and hoped he'd never escape. Things took a turn for the worse when the damage caused by Superboy and Match woke Steve up, unleashing him on a helpless world and a very unlucky Dick Grayson (aged 12... I mean 13.)
- Tonight on Channel Five: Scandal in the League. Sex tape of key members released.
- They were actually a space rampage.
- Artemis is his new companion and Roy is the bitter "I thought I was special, but I'm the latest in a long line" companion.
- The shorts are supposed to highlight lesser known heroes.
- No, Animal Man gets so many shorts because the song is awesome. ANIMALMAN!
- But this continuity has been different from the main DC continuity from the very first episode, where Dick Grayson, Wallace West, and Kaldur'ahm discovered Superboy in a Cadmus holding cell, so there is no reason to assume that Jaime having the scarab means Ted Kord is dead.
- Looks like Ted Kord's dead after all. Though the scarab is awfully bloodthirsty to have been programmed by such a relentlessly Silver Agey character.
- Just because Jaime thinks Kord programmed it doesn't mean he did. If anything the show seems to be hinting that it IS alien tech, possibly made by the Kroloteans' "competitor"
- Looks like Ted Kord's dead after all. Though the scarab is awfully bloodthirsty to have been programmed by such a relentlessly Silver Agey character.
- The situations are somewhat different. Conner and Artemis were both fully aware of their parentage - at least, Conner was eventually - and it was not kept from them by their mentors/carers. Kaldur'ahm discovered that his king, his mother and his (step-)father have all been keeping the true identity of his father from him. Plus, you have to remember that that is not the only reason that he defected - one of his best friends, and the girl he loved, died and he believes the other Team members to be the cause.
- Confirmed.
- Well considering M'gann and Conner impersonated J'onn and Supes, I would not be surprised if this comes up again, with him as Bats
- The Reach already has a Martian operative, Green Beetle, so kind of jossed.
When Queen Bee ordered Marie Logan murdered, she never found the time to have changed her will, and thus passed custody of her son to her former co-star and still best friend Rita Farr. Since Beast Boy is one of the more recent additions to The Team (Only the Tim Drake Robin and the Jaime Reyes Blue Beetle have member numbers higher than him), that leaves plenty of time for lots of adventures with Mento, Negative Man, Robot Man, and Elastigirl.
- I was going to propose that in this continuity the Doom Patrol are all somehow connected to Marie Logan's animal sanctuary, and they wind up opposing the Brain and his experimentation on animals.
- Confirmed in season 3, a mind hallucination in the style of Teen Titans Go! reveals the Doom Patrol and that Beast Boy was with them.
One of the Kroloteans mentions being attacked by a Competitor warrior after a scene of Blue Beetle and Bumblebee attacking one at a diner. We're clearly meant to think that they're referring to Blue Beetle and his Reach scarab, but maybe they were actually referring to Bumblebee, confusing her for an Imskian warrior because of her shrinking ability.
- Possible, but unlikely due to how they reacted to him when he, Robin, and Lagoon Boy infiltrated their base and the Scarabs ability to speak the language.
If other Martians find out about what she did, they may demand she be deprived of her telepathy for it. In the comics, Mind Rape was one of the worst crimes a Martian could commit, and the punishment was the removal of the offender's mental powers.
- Right for the wrong reasons. She uses her powers on Kaldur, and the guilt affects her tremendously.
- Obvious really, even without prior knowledge of his comic book counterpart.
- A brief shot in the season 2 finale shows him on Apokolips, confirming it.
- Jossed by Word of God. Conner still lives at Mount Justice.
- Jossed, Question was a no-show.
In the comics, the reason Wally could never go as fast as Barry was due to him thinking himself unworthy of carrying on Barry’s legacy, and so he never broke the sound barrier. However, after realizing he can still honor the legacy and be his own man as well as need to help others, it lead him to finally be able to be just as fast as barry was. I think this might be the same problem in this universe, where Wally might be carrying some guilt from leaving the hero game and doing something that he didn’t feel worthy to go as fast, and one episode will be dedicated to this in the future.
- Alternatively, I distinctly remember a "Speed disease" from one of the early Teen Titans comics that was killing Wally when he tried to use his speed, and Crisis on Infinite Earths somehow cured it. Some other equivalent may happen without Barry needing to die.
- Or maybe the inverse of the comics happens: Wally thinks Barry has died, and it results in a "You want speed? I'll give you speed!" moment against whoever killed him.
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- Given the hints so far (appearance of Black Beetle, the Krolotean's comment about Blue Beetle being a "Competitor Warrior", and so on) it actually seems they're going with the Reach
. Though those guys do enjoy invading worlds pretty much just as much as the Dominators.
- Jossed. The competitor is the Reach, though they are given much of the Dominators' motivations.
- Near the end of season 2, M'gann will confront Kaldur at some point and mind rapes him since she needs information from him and is short on time. She doesn't realize that Kaldur is still one of the good guys and is still angry about Artemis's death. However, once she breaks his mind, M'gann realizes that Kaldur was always on their side and that Artemis was still alive. Distraught, M'gann begins to realize just what kind of consequences her mind rapes hold. She now understands that just because they are villains does not mean they aren't people also. With this in mind, M'gann will begin her redemption arc and try to make up for abusing her powers. She will go to Kaldur and try to fix his mind. An episode will be based around a journey through his mind as M'gann tries to fix his mind. To do this, M'gann witnesses many of Kaludr's memories including the ones leading up to his fake betrayal. This forces M'gann to confront some of her own issues and the the wrongs she has committed. Finally, M'gann finds Kaldur at the center of his mind and is truly remorseful for her actions. Kaldur comforts M'gann, saying he understands and forgives her. M'gann breaks down and finally begins to move on from some of her guilt. M'gann continues to rebuild Kaldur's mind with his help but may not be able to fully heal Kaldur.
- Alternative: M'gann mind rapes the disguised Artemis. While trying to get information on something (eg. Lagoon Boy), she'll run into her disguised team-mate. Artemis will withold the information, possibly because she's trying to stay undercover, or just doesn't know. Angrily, she'll mind rape her, too busy looking for the answers to notice anything else. At this point Kaldur will confront her, saying that he never killed Artemis- if anything, she did. Will lead to a My God, What Have I Done? moment.
- Partially confirmed as of "Before The Dawn." M'Gann does indeed Mind Rape Kaldur only to discover the truth and is horrified.
- He figured it out while studying the Blue Beetle scarab. The invading force will be the Reach, they tracked the scarab, found that he had it but hadn't bonded with it, and so suspected that he may know too much. The Reach then co-ordinated with the Light to have Ted killed and recover the scarab before he could reveal his discovery to the Justice League. Ted managed to send the scarab away before they killed him, but it got lost on the way and ended up found by Jaime. The Light then spread false info that Ted had invented the scarab so no one would suspect alien intervention. Additionally, because Ted damaged the scarab while studying it, it doesn't bother to correct Jaime about where it came from (it can't remember coming from the Reach, knows Ted didn't invent it, but doesn't have a better explanation).
- Deconfirmed, as it turned out Ted died long before the Invasion was known.
He figured it out.
Because he's Batman
- Probably
- Jossed as it's not Darkseid, but the Light's partnership with the Reach prompted sending Sportsmaster and Deathstroke after him.
- The first half of this theory seems confirmed with "Darkest".
- Word of God has denied that White Martians are Always Chaotic Evil, and that their differences with other Martians are mostly "cultural." Which is vague on their general alignment, but M'Gann's "tendencies" wouldn't be a matter of Villainous Lineage.
- Then the reason for her "tendencies" are because of the death of Gar Logan's mother, the constant anti-alien bashings thanks to Gordon Godfrey, and the break-up. She's starting to feel that Earth is not so different from Mars.
- "Earthlings are assholes towards aliens, and I want to fit in. Therefore, I must mind rape my way through every Krolotean I meet." Even I can't believe that MM is that shallow.
- Then the reason for her "tendencies" are because of the death of Gar Logan's mother, the constant anti-alien bashings thanks to Gordon Godfrey, and the break-up. She's starting to feel that Earth is not so different from Mars.
- Given that it's Luthor, the arm will probably have negative effects on Arsenal similar to the shields he gave Superboy. And with Arsenal already showing a very anti-hero sort of ruthless ambition, it most likely won't end well for anyone involved.
- More likely, it will just need recharging or upgrades, which Luthor will give to Arsenal. Luthor's modus operandi in this show seems a bit focused on maintaining a good public image. He will likely not even ask for anything in return, and when Arsenal starts defending him to the League / Team it will alienate them from him, pushing him to Luthor's side.
- As a mythology gag, it'll be powered by a chemical called Hero
- As of "True Colors", he's taken to ruining team missions just to spite Luthor. And yet he's still using Luthor's present to him, without even having the League attempt to replace it.
- More likely, it will just need recharging or upgrades, which Luthor will give to Arsenal. Luthor's modus operandi in this show seems a bit focused on maintaining a good public image. He will likely not even ask for anything in return, and when Arsenal starts defending him to the League / Team it will alienate them from him, pushing him to Luthor's side.
- Of course, this is assuming someone else (like, say, Cheshire) won't beat M'gann to the punch and kill Aqualad first.
- Confirmed in "Before The Dawn."
- First her boyfriend was kidnapped, then her ex-boyfriend was nearly blown up, and then her adopted brother was kidnapped? That's like a recipe for a Miss Martian perfect storm of rage! Also, this will probably lead into her bounce back arc when she does one thing too many in the rampage and thus reaches My God, What Have I Done? on that mission.
- Confirmed in "Before The Dawn."
- Since Reach scarabs need a host, who is Black Beetle? Considering his intelligence, and the fact that we have no clue how this person was actually suppose to die, I bet that it's Ted Kord. Black Beetle's secret ID was never revealed in the comics, and Ted would add another layer of drama to fighting Black Beetle.
- My guess is he isn't human. Doesn't the reach generally only send one scarab per planet?
- It's proven in the comics that scarabs only work one per planet. There was an issue where the Reach tried to activate many, but the scarab's only half activated. Black Beetle on the other hand was something of a mystery. He is definitely human as he is always shown to have a personal grudge against Jaime, ranging from either having known him personally (this being when Jaime didn't have many alien friends) to claiming that he is Jaime's future self. But as the original poster said, we never learned his true identity, and the reboot meant we properly never will in the comics.
- We get brief glimpses of his actual face in "True Colors". He appears to be a member of the Reach species.
- M'gann's Mind Rape will cause irreparable damage to Aqualad's psyche, causing him to believe he really has defected to the Light for real.
- Addendum: It will mostly be Psimon's fault. He escaped his Mind Rape sometime during the Time Skip. Considering that he and Aqualad are nominally allies, it wouldn't be entirely odd for Psimon to help him out during his "time of need." Except Psimon scrambles Aqualad's brain further and then the series officially goes to hell after that.
- Followup: it will take either M'gann or the Power of Friendship to make him remember his true loyalties. Maybe something involving Tula, since she did show up in the season preview.
- Partially confirmed. As of "The Fix," Kaldur, Artemis and M'gann are working on this.
- Alternately Artemis will do the Face–Heel Turn and get revenge on M'gann.
- Still comatose and smuggled out details aside, confirmed.
- He becomes a good version of Zoom after rejoining the fight, opting for the name "Zoom" because A) he no longer considers himself a "Kid" at his age, and B) he feels he is unworthy of the title "Flash" - not helped by Impulse's presence - and wants to be a hero in his own right, separate from the rest of the Flash family.
- He makes a Face–Heel Turn when Artemis gets Killed Off for Real due to Miss Martian being an Unwitting Instigator of Doom.
- 1st one: Sweet crap, I hope not. That would be ridiculous. 2nd one: It's unlikely that anyone will be Killed Off for Real, much less Artemis of all people. This is a kid's show and they don't have the cojones.
- 1st one: Wally doesn't make Face–Heel Turn. 2nd one: Wally was Killed Off for Real.
- 1st one: Sweet crap, I hope not. That would be ridiculous. 2nd one: It's unlikely that anyone will be Killed Off for Real, much less Artemis of all people. This is a kid's show and they don't have the cojones.
- Or the Speed Force
Conner, meanwhile, will just grow into his comic's tactile telekinesis powerset, giving him more utility and a little thing called flight.
- Given the series' precedent with Beast Boy, Conner's upgrade will likely have something to do with M'gann.
- WOG is that he won't get tactile telekinesis or the rest of Supes' powers:
- M'gann and Lagoon Boy break-up. It turns out M'gann only dated Lagoon Boy because Conner broke her heart. Lagoon Boy starts hating Conner even more for it.
- In "Cornered", M'gann ignored Lagoon Boy's call, and then she and Conner have a talk.
- In one episode, M'gann finds out Superboy is going out with Wendy. Visibly upset, she's okay with it. It seems she and Lagoon Boy are still a couple in "Summit".
- Wally punches Aqualad for making his Face–Heel Turn too good. He tells Aqualad he'll never trust him again. The animosity will remain by the next time skip. It would take a few episodes (perhaps half a season) to get them to be friends again.
Jossed for the most part, the entire Team learned about it in "Summit", and everything appears to be fine among the teammates. Though Beast Boy tells them no more secrets and lies.
In the next Time Skip, the team will re-form again, but will have to work hard to trust each other as a team again.
- Alternatively, a number of senior members like Nightwing and Miss Martian will move on, either joining the League proper or simply going out on their own, with post-timeskip featuring Suspiciously Similar Substitute characters (like Raven replacing Miss Martian).
- Jossed as they never disbanded in the first place.
- They all look like they're in the same place.
- The teleporter and Static are in the frame together in one shot and they look like they're working together
- Static has his saucer, which he had to get from somewhere. My bet is the team.
- Half confirmed in Runaways. They get a Day in the Limelight but it ends with them joining up with Luthor.
- Static ultimately joins at the end of season 2, though one Runaway, Ed, joins as El Dorado in season 3.
- Jossed, the Watchtower is safe.
- All but officially stated in "The Fix."
- Or it could be the other way around, with the Reach taking over like in Impulse's Bad Future. Lex's cannon could either be coincidental, or more likely, some insurance against the aliens.
- As of "The Runaways", Luthor sabotages the Reach's effort to reclaim their escaped "test subjects" and takes them under his wing, so looking more likely, although nothing has been confirmed.
- "War" has Vandal Savage manipulating Mongul into attacking Earth and forcing the Reach to unveil their spaceships.
- May include Virgil Hawkins/Static Shock and Tye Longshadow/Apache Chief/Long Shadow, as they were among those kidnapped by the Reach and subsequently freed.
- May even include the three Titans who haven't yet made an appearance, i.e. Cyborg, Raven, and Starfire. Less likely, though.
- Doesn't have to be called the Teen Titans, but Deathstroke as the leader is the important part.
- Could be used to set up an awesome throwback battle between Nightwing and Deathstroke. Actually that will probably happen anyway. Having them be opposing leaders of the two teams would be rather poignant, though.
- Honestly, my first thought wasn't the evil Titans (which it probably will be), but the Ultimen. After all, they already have an Apache Chief/Long Shadow candidate...
- The way that The Reach/Light have posited all the teenagers that were experimented on to help form their own team, looks like it'll include as many of the kids they kidnapped that can be coerced. Possible we'll have a race between the team and the Reach to get to the final kids.
- And Luthor is playing Darkseid, the Reach, and the rest of the Light.
- The Light was indeed playing the Reach, but Vandal and Darkseid are partners.
- Of course, that's assuming that he is a Green martian and not another White.
- He looks like a White Martian (prominent pelvis, elongated limbs, three digits), and we've never seen a male White Martian before. Sure, he could be a Red Martian or a Green pretending to be a White, but really, for what purpose?
- Word of God has confirmed that physical differences between the different Martian races in this continuity go no deeper than skin-color. A Green or Red would have those same features in his true form.
- So far: Jossed. Which makes sense considering he works for the Reach and was putting on a front the whole time anyway.
- Seems unlikely to me. Green Beetle shows up and helps the Team defeat Black Beetle and tries to trick Blue into submitting to the Beetle, rather than simply helping Black take the team down (eliminating several nuisances in the process) and taking Jaime to a secure location where they can put him "on mode" on their own terms? It seems way too risky than doing things directly, especially since it left their chief enforcer open to a potential killing blow. (Seriously, I'm surprised Arsenal didn't laser his exposed face when he had the chance.)
- Maybe he just thinks Black Beetle is a dick? Seriously, he oozes evil, even if he has his own agenda separate from The Reach, what he is going to tell Jaime is definitely not going to be kosher.
- Subterfuge is kinda the Reach's specialty. Also keep in mind forcing Blue Beetle on mode didn't work the last time the tried it, and eliminating three young heroes , all of whom have ties to members of the Justice League is just going to make the heroes mad. Instead of eliminating several nuisances, the Reach would gain a large number of giant problems. Much better to get in close and try and manipulate Jaime so that they can reset his scarab without making it immediately obvious.
- Another thing to note: In "The Fix", Green Beetle volunteered his thoughts rather than having M'gann probe his mind. He also used her insecurities about her recent Mind Rape to convince her to let him.
- He's also somehow used his shapeshifting to get inside Jaime's Scarab and make it go silent. Yeah, this is totally going to hell soon.
- Luthor said something along the lines of "sit back, and enjoy the show." Now obviously, the audience is supposed to assume that's supposed to mean Black Beetle vs. the kids. However, I think he meant GB's "show" of being a good guy. Plus, Luthor seemed to pretty much want the team to get the additive. Not only did GB help them get the additive, but he gave them a piece of information about it that the team wouldn't have gotten even if they escaped without a hitch.
- As of "The Runaways" probably confirmed. Its still ambiguous whether the Scarab is controlling him or not but he is on the Reach's side for sure.
- Seems to be confirmed as of "The Runaways".
- Which makes it going silent in "The Fix" an Oh, Crap! moment. They couldn't put it on mode because it refused, and now that it's silent, they can.
- And makes Impulse's own Oh, Crap! moment during the aforementioned scene make sense.
- Semi-confirmed. Jaime's Scarab did have free will, but Green Beetle's "adjustments" made the Scarab a slave to the Reach again. Zatanna uses a ritual in "Intervention" to free both Blue and Green from The Reach's control.
- And this helps them... how, exactly? Seems like pretty poor design for establishing invasion vanguards. "Here, have this powerful technology with great combat potential; when you've had fun, mind helping us take over your homeworld out of gratitude?" Yeah, that makes sense. Also, if "on mode" meant controlling the scarab without influence of the AI, why would it come with AI in the first place
- Alright then explain Impulse's Oh, Crap! moment then. Something had to happen to the scared to cause the Reach Apocalypse in the first place plus it may be easier to reboot with the AI off.
- Impulse being gay would not be surprising, given that he goes on the mission to Bialya with a squad of three other girls. The last time a mission took place there, Nightwing made a point of explaining that the squad was made up entirely of (straight) women to counteract Queen Bee's powers.
- Made more likely after the events of "The Runaways". Considering Blue is "on mode" and all.
- The good news is, the future was indeed prevented.
- Considering Impulse travelling back in time didn't change things for their world in his introduction, this is very likely.
- Jossed, he does prevent it.
- Even if this doesn't happen, he'll at least have an "I Know You're in There Somewhere" Fight with him. Maybe with Impulse helping.
- To plant a Mole on the Team to keep an eye on them (especially the Beetles)
- Apart from Tye, Bart is the only one with a deep connection to Blue Beetle and His Oh, Crap! moment implies that he knows that Green Beetle moded him, like Lex.
- Neutron's future self.
- Blue Beetle's future self. In an ironic twist, he comes back in time to ensure that the Reach succeeds, but ends up screwing them over.
- The Legion of Super-Heroes
- Booster Gold
- The time travel story is ultimately saved for season 4, rather than in season 2. The Legion of Super-Heroes is confirmed for season 4 after a cameo in season 3, but they aim to prevent a different event caused by a villainous reinterpretation of Lor-Zod.
Further evidence: when we first see the stapler gun, the scarab comments "That tactic would be more effective if you fired through bone". In "War", during Jaime's apparent Face–Heel Turn, he fires the gun at Wonder Girl's wrists and cuffs her to the floor, instead of firing them through her. Another sign Jaime is in control instead of the scarab.
- Um, Wonder Girl has unbreakable bracelets. Hard to fire ANYTHING past those.
- "On Mode" does not mean the scarab being in full control of the host body, that would eliminate the need for a host body and make the reach just making robots more efficient. It's more akin to brainwashing, it's still Jaime, but now he is loyal to The Reach.
- Actually, as stated in "True Colors", the scarab's proper function is to take full control of the host body and as confirmed in "Runaways", that's what happened to Jaime. The scarab is likely also taking full control of his mind and using his memories, similar to how the Starro-tech was controlling the Justice League in the Season 1 finale.
- "Complications" shows clearly that Nightwing was not aware of Blue Beetle defection and takes it rather hard, even when alone. So partly jossed, at least for Nightwing being on it. But Jaime could still be holding the scarab back, if so slightly.
- Looks to me like he's working with Luthor but against the Reach. The entire pro-Reach schtick was apparently just lulling them into a false sense of security.
- Jossed, Godfrey is on Apokolips in the season 2 finale.
- Eh, it was mentioned in the tie-in comics that Nightwing told Jaime's parents about his secret identity, and in 'True Colors' Bart mentioned talking to Jaime's mom. So Jossed.
- Partly jossed by 'The Hunt' which shows the team imprisoned within the Warworld. Partly confirmed because does have a Father Box or two (used by Deathstroke to get the crystal?) lying around. But that still leaves the question of why there were residual Boom Tube energies present in the hangar, considering Apokalips tech can't be used by the Reach.
Side 1: The Justice League and The Team. Their goal is to retrieve the crystal, defeat the light and reach, and earn back the trust of the runaways, showing the earth once and for all that the league are heroes (the rimbor 6 optional). Secondary goals: retrieval of Aqualad and Artemis, and the redemption of Blue Beetle. They may bring the most to the party, but that's all depending on how the second side is playing things.
Side 2: The Light. Their goal is to hold onto the crystal to control war world and send a message to the universe that "Earth's big fish now, alien bastards!" Remove all other sides as potential threat, and finally take control of the world. Secondary goal: kill everyone. At least, all outside the league, who they might need as insurance against alien menaces. May or may not also have plenty of soldiers to bring to the party, depending on how much they're throwing into this endeavor. It could be as small as 1 deathstroke, or as big as every active villain under their command.
Side 3: The Reach. Goal: Retrieve the crystal, and take control of War World in their final endgame to conquer earth. Defeat all problems, and dispatch both The Runaways and the team for their interference. Reach soldiers and Black Beetle provide their strength.
Side 4: The Runaways. Goal: Earn the respect of the league, and destroy the crystal so nobody can use it. Secondary goal: Finally get back home.
Side 5: Sportsmaster and the rogues. The splinter group lead by the old enforcer, seeking the end of black manta, and the fall of The Light.
Side 6: Mongul, who just wants his weapon back, and the reach out of the picture.
And where will this all take place? At the only place where you can have an awesome Final Battle: The streets of Metropolis. Battles will be fought, many an Enemy Mine will be formed. Legacies will be created, and the outcome will be their Grand Finale.
- Nah, the finale is about defeating a bunch of Reach doomsday weapons.
- Since the series is almost done, this would be nice to as a spin-off.
- Was going to suggest the same thing. Seems like it's about time for Red Hood to show up and join the anti-heroes. Also possible that he is not a true member, but rather a double agent sent by Batman to keep an eye on them.
- The Outsiders do appear in season 3, but not in the manner suggested, which is actually the Outlaws.
However, here's where it gets tricky, and draws in some speculation. There's a Freeze-Frame Bonus in a teaser back when DC nation came back on the air that indicates that eventually the rimbor 8 return to earth, and fight reach warships. Second, there's the fact that in the future, there's a wrecked something from where we can see things, so this pulls into my final speculation: On the day that the justice league fights off the reach for good (because let's face it, this is a superhero show), they bring most of the fleet down over The remains of Mount Justice, and on the anniversary of that moment, we will finally get our "Crash", and for the Grand Finale we will see Earth 16 as a paradise; left ambiguous enough that it's a victory but you can't tell if it's the league who ultimately prevailed in their war, or the light.
- There's still a scene from the DC Nation 2013 trailer that hasn't aired. They aren't in "Summit", so it looks like either that was a deleted scene or they're in "Endgame".
- Lex Luthor losing their support is the only time to date something's gone wrong for a member of the Light. Foreshadowing?
- That said, there's a reasonable chance that Luthor was expecting their reaction to being manipulated (again) and so hasn't actually lost anything with the Runaways departure, or if he has it's not significant in the long run.
- Queen Bee mentions that the Light has plans for the Reach, the League, and the Team. So they don't seem to think the Runaways are any kind of threat.
The Reach eventually get the Blue Scarab back or duplicate it and attach it to Mongul. After all, the size, muscle mass, and general vibe from the BB of Impulse's memory doesn't fit at all with what you could imagine Jamie Reyes becoming. But they fit perfectly with Mongul, who's currently locked in stasis on War World instead of being killed. Also, Impulse mentioned that Blue was the Reach's best weapon and most powerful warrior. Among the Beetles that we know, wouldn't a psychic, shape-shifting Martian or the experienced Black who probably volunteered be better candidates than a random kid who grew into the role? However, give a scarab to someone who has Super Man-level strength and you've got the baddest of the bad.
- Seems unlikely given that they dislike being considered children, and the 'Young' while accurate, could come across as derogatory and insulting to the Team. The Team doesn't exactly have a ring to it, but considering they're not in the public eye like the League, they don't really need a snappy title, merely a functional (if unimaginative) one.
- Well, from what this troper has deduced from the tie-in comics and Word of God, the Justice League was called the Justice League before it went public, so just because the Team isn't in the public eye doesn't mean that they don't need a catchy name.
- There was such a thing as a Speed Disease in the comics, so yeah, this is plausible.
- In "Summit" Wally mentions to Bart that he would like to see him in 'red and yellow' and take over from him, as both Wally and Artemis intend to retire for good. No proof this is because he's losing his powers, but not jossed, either.
- Jossed. In fact he dies because he's so much slower than Barry and Bart.
- Jossed, Connor & M'Gann went.
- Season 4 confirms Broad Strokes elements of Green Lantern: The Animated Series did ultimately happen, so confirmed.
- He's just in the Speed Force.
- This wouldn't work since it's been stated the Speed Force doesn't exist. Maybe he's trapped between dimensions.
- Word of God is that nobody in Young Justice has HEARD of the Speed Force and that Greg doesn't particularly like the Speed Force because it doesn't make sense to him. I think the lack of a body suggests he either changed his mind or had it changed for him. Though it's possible previous Troper is right and he's stuck between or in another dimension.
- Looking back on it, there are a lot of suggestive details towards this theory. Him becoming see-through and then intangible doesn't really match up with absorbing energy. He didn't disintegrate when something hit him, which you'd expect, he just kind of dissipated after a while into his speed trail. Plus, the Scarab, who's not really one to mince words, says Wally will "cease" rather than "die", and when Jaime asks "Cease what?" we never hear its answer.
- Sorry, but from what this Troper saw, his particles actually did disintegrate while he was running.
- The problem isn't that he disintegrated. It's that he disintegrated when his body took too much energy to handle. The beam wasn't hitting him at the moment to put him beyond the threshold, so where was that energy coming from?
- This wouldn't work since it's been stated the Speed Force doesn't exist. Maybe he's trapped between dimensions.
- Alternately, Wally created the Speed Force as he disintegrated. We have no idea what effect the chrysalis energy was having on his body, and it's possible it created a reaction with the massive amount of kinetic energy Wally was helping to generate. This would, of course, mean that Wally returning from the dead could be very possible, and if he were to come back, he'd do so with a major boost in power.
- Or maybe it's like Barry Allen in Crisis on Infinite Earths, (which is probably where they got the idea from), where the Speed Force is basically speedster Valhalla. So he's dead and in the Speed Force.
- Greg's words could either imply the Speed Force doesn't exist yet or that it just doesn't exist on Earth-16. There's nothing that doesn't say it doesn't exist in other parallel universes like Earth-12's DCAU. A world in which Wally was the only Flash and was never Kid Flash and yet there's a Kid Flash costume in the Flash museum. Also, there was one time he almost disappeared from that world and said "There's this force - a Speed Force. It's calling me home." Earth-16 Wally West is Earth-12's and he's trapped in the DCAU trying to find a way back.
- The Speed Force doesn't cross to parallel Earths, as shown when the JLA or Earth-1 went to Earth-616 & Wally found himself being outpaced by Quicksilver because he no longer had a Speed Force to access. Wally of Earth-16 would not be able to access the Speed Force of Earth-12 unless he was already on Earth-12.
- I had meant that the Speed Force opens the portal to the space between parallel earths. Basically when he got absorbed in "Endgame" Wally got bounced into that space and the first place he exited out was Earth-12. If he had come back, then the Speed Force wouldn't come with him but would be the boost to get him into the space between worlds.
- As of 2019, when Christopher Jones told a fan on Twitter that the Speed Force doesn't exist in YJ because Greg said so, Greg corrected him, saying that it wasn't quite what he said (which is actually incorrect, since he straight up said on his forum that it doesn't exist), so we're back to square one.
- Well... Kid Flash's costume does have that camouflage mode...
- The idea of giving Wally a Face–Heel Turn is an idea that this troper is very fond of. Maybe he could even come back as Reverse-Flash or Professor Zoom
By the way, Spoilers.
- Dog Days of Summer: The season premiere. Set 5 years after Endgame, the league has grown to a bursting point. Many team members have finally moved up to join their ranks, while the team itself is shrinking, as members come, go, and eventually get back in good graces. The season begins with new team member Stargirl joining the ranks, introduced to the team working aboard the watchtower.
- The Justice League does ultimately get new members, but not to the bursting point, the Team is the same as ever, while Stargirl is saved for season 4.
- Several of the heroes have graduated to the league: Bumblebee and Guardian for 2 examples. Nightwing also was given a spot, but requested staying out of the limelight.
- Confirmed in a way for Kaldur becoming the new Aquaman and being promoted the Justice League, but Nightwing had quit the Team following Wally's death, so instead he forms his own team. On the front of Bumblebee and Guardian, they just simply retired to have a family, though being reserve heroes in the Justice League is something established for them in season 4.
- The League is growing tenfold, with several of the less obvious heroes joining the big league such as Fire, Ice, The Question, Steel and Metamorpho.
- Steel, Ice, and an offscreen mention of Fire are confirmed, but the growth in membership is mostly countered by Batman splitting off several heroes into a team of his own. Metamorpho is subsequently confirmed when he joins it.
- The Light is still at large, and Luthor is currently Secretary-General Luthor, who, despite the league's great irritation, has created a relative peace on Earth-16. Luthor strengthened Earth's capabilities, sharing some reach technology with some upper level governments, while also secretly reorganizing the light for open war later in the season.
- Lex's Secretary-General powers do get mention, and are used to help traffic metahumans, but they also play the public game of sanctioning the Justice League.
- Godfrey's still going on earth, and as a result, the Justice League's still in rather shaky waters, though thanks to their work with the reach, not shunned at this point. Also, it too 3 years, but the world finally forgave Blue Beetle for being a Reach pawn.
- Godfrey is confirmed for sure to still be running around, and Blue Beetle being an Outsider does show he is forgiven.
- Shadows: Setting up several running threads for this season, this episode deals with how The Team is a Shadow team, and how no matter how much good they might do, they'll always be overshadowed by their mentors/superiors. The occasion for this? The criminal Shade is leading a crime spree, and in a dynamic not used nearly as often in this show, Superman, Batman, Nightwing, Red Robin and Superboy are called in to investigate. While the Team players are out working hard, they get overpicked by their mentors using their skills/powers to such a degree that they almost feel irrelevant. The main thrust of the episode is bringing The Team into the light, as Shade points out at the end that Young Justice's original purpose is essentially worthless now that The Light is taking them seriously after what happened at the summit. Thus, in a very public and risky gesture, the whole team reveals themselves on Godfrey's show to answer some questions on what they've been doing these last 10 years. However the deeper secret at play here is that during the mission, Nightwing sees some shadows that are unlike anything he'd seen before, and thus begins his quest to rescue Wally West from the shadowy Speed Force.
- Jossed, as they never get overshadowed or out themselves.
- Family: The Arrow family (Green Arrow, Red Arrow, Arsenal, Tigress, Cheshire, the new active Arrow member Arrowette and Lian, who's too young to fight, but acts as comic relief) is called in to investigate a LexCorp transaction suspected of connections with Darkseid. The family hasn't been all together in years, so there's still some obvious tension, particularly between Arsenal and Green Arrow. Thankfully, this trip is just what they need, as it turns out the shipment is being guarded by Light families as well. The Terror Twins, Icicle Sr. and Jr., Shimmer and Mammoth are all there protecting an incoming shipment of light tech, as well as preparing for the arrival of Kalibak to inspect earth. In an unexpected twist, this will also mark the return of Sportsmaster, who actually defeats Kalibak, restoring his reputation, but he leaves right afterwards to show that they'll always be a wall between him and the rest of his family. This marks the League's first real knowledge of Darkseid, and in the debrief before the end, Blue Beetle comes forward with the scarab to explain everything the reach knew about Darkseid as they prepare for a new war. This also will mark the reconciliation of Arsenal and Green Arrow, and the episode ends with the whole family going out on a hunt together.
- Some semblance of Arrow Family practice is held up with the concept of Bowhunter Security (which features Red Arrow, Arsenal, and the previous Guardian), but otherwise, it's Tigress interacting with Red Arrow and Lian. Some friction comes from Green Arrow and Arrowette splitting away to Batman's sect of heroes, but not enough for this story here.
- Future Shock: Booster Gold comes to play with the Team, but Bart is obviously anxious to know if anything's changed from the future he came from. Booster seems more invested in the glory of being a hero, but the current KF keeps pushing until the end of the episode. After the two defeat The Rogues (Mirror Master, Weather Wizard, Heatwave, Captain Cold and Captain Boomerang) with help from Blue beetle, Booster comes clean that the future is still in flux. More repaired with no nuclear fallout and less carnage, but the planet was still devastated after the Light got in a crossfire....with Darkseid. In addition, a mysterious...something rescues Booster during the episode, and Nightwing continues to search for evidence of the life of Wally West being still out there.
- Jossed, Booster Gold is a no show, and Wally is still dead.
- Doomsday: A retelling of The Death of Superman, only changed. In this instance, Doomsday doesn't die, but is rather sent to another dimension by Dr. Fate in a desperate attempt to save Zatanna from him. However, in the process, the helm of nabu is knocked off, meaning that Zatara gets a break, but tells his daughter that he needs to return to being Dr. Fate because "the world still needs him". He also includes the obligatory So Proud of You speech that he got to see her grow up into a gifted magician and woman. Technically filler, but also provides a key plot point about how Luthor's growing wary of continuing their partnership with Darkseid, who unleashed doomsday on the planet to test plausibility for HIM to fulfill his goal of subjugating the universe.
- Doomsday ultimately never shows up, though the idea that Zatara can be freed is saved for season 4.
- Echos: A kind of Call-Back episode to the last couple seasons, as in a unique twist, the original Team is called in to investigate a new Injustice League. Lead by Icicle Jr, seeking one last chance to get in well with The Light, this IJL seeks old fashioned world domination yet again, but uses a combined assault of apokalyptian technology, the plant creatures, and the blockbuster/venom fusion to attack major cities, seeking money and control in the process. The original team's goal is to storm their headquarters in Mongolia (after getting a tipoff from Sportsmaster, who's still walking that fine line between villain and Anti-Hero), and stop these recurring villains once and for all. This again adds to the Wally Subplot, as while sneaking around, Nightwing picks up traces of an energy he never experienced before, and brings the data back for the techies to analyze.
- Icicle Jr. never lost his good graces, he's still in Queen Bee's team, now named Onslaught, so this thread is jossed with the Injustice League never returning (though Ultra-Humanite is made a Light member).
- Pairs: The Sergeant and Lieutenant Marvels, the wonder twins, black lightning, static, Aqualad, Lagoon Boy, and Nightwing go off on a mission to deal with an attack by a new team of intergang warriors: Bloodsport, Riot, Toyman, Prankster, Hellgramite, Radion and their leader: Lex Luthor. The main thrust is that this is a sort of "clean up" operation, as when Bruno and Whisper were taken out 5 years ago, their absence lead to a slow decline in the strength intergang had overall. And as of such, the Team (with Black Lightning along as a senior member) are called in to stamp them out once and for all, to remove another piece of the light's from the board. It is a difficult fight, particularly since Riot can clone himself to take on all of them at once, but they eventually take down the last of the members, confiscating their technology, and locking up their members one last time on a new supervillain prison that was created by the league: The Slate. Unfortunately, the slate is...contreversial to say the least, and its presence is actually hurting the league's image a lot. Further, Nightwing helped lead the pairs to victory, but he's still somewhat distracted during the fights examining the many technologies owned by intergang. At the end of it all, Luthor escapes (again), but the organization is essentially dead at this point. And in examining the technology available, Nightwing has an idea to use boom tube technology to try and find a way to bring Wally back from the dead.
- Some aspects are jossed, mainly there are no Marvels or Wonder Twins, but Intergang does make a return using Reach technology, as a threat to the Outsiders.
- Too Far: Darkseid outgambits Savage, wrestling control of War World from him, and making certain Klarion is no longer his "lap dog". (perhaps giving him an omega beam to the face) Lex Luthor in turn abandons him to his fate, saying that savage pushed things too far, and now HE will be the leader of the light. Having spent much of the timeskip accumulating power, credence and publicity, the remaining light members fall in behind Luthor, leading to savage's ultimate Villainous Breakdown about nobody being competent or smart enough to follow his vision all the way through. At about that point, the Justice League will capture him, and put him in a special cell where he'll be forced to watch earth become the center of the universe, but peacefully.
- Jossed, Vandal and Darkseid never turn on each other and the partnership is intact.
- Oblivion: Darkseid's forces invade Earth, putting down planet crackers to create new lava pits. One is placed near Mount Justice, and it actually partially activates, coating the sky in a soot layer (hence explaining the state of mount justice after Neutron "crashed"). The League is stretched to a breaking point fighting the enemies.
- The closest thing to an Apokoliptian "invasion" may be Granny Goodness using the Anti-Life Equation, otherwise there is none to speak of.
- Usurper: Mongul is freed from his cell on War World, revealing that HE was once lord of apokalips. To that end, he found the war world, and decided to slowly build a power base before returning to invade his old kingdom in order to restore it to HIS vision. Taking place after Oblivion, the team is forced to rely on Mongul for helping create a plan in order to defeat Darkseid's forces, despite the obvious fear that he'll turn around and use War World to destroy Earth afterwards.
- Mongul never escapes, so jossed.
- Power: The final battle with Darkseid. Time is of the essence, as Darkseid tries to bring about hell on earth. The League and team converge on his position, with an agreement to let Mongul have War World back if he'll promise to stay out of earth space. In one of the definitive moments of the series, we get a moment of awesome from superman when he manages to knock back both mongul and darkseid with his fists at once.
- Also jossed, Darkseid never fights the heroes.
- Immortal: The next couple episodes are in the vein of Transformers Prime, where they happen simultaneously as the league and team spread out to defeat the light once and for all. This particular episode focuses on their efforts to defeat Ra's Al Gul once and for all.
- Ra's quit the Light, so Deathstroke now leads the League of Shadows, so jossed.
- Magic: Spearheaded by Dr. Fate, several heroes go after Klarion to convince him to cause chaos elsewhere rather than make earth more miserable.
- Kind of jossed, season 4 would ultimately reveal Klarion was meant to be a necessary evil when the Eviler than Thou threat of Child emerges.
- Long Live the Queen: Queen Bee's last stand in Bialya. Having taken a political misstep in outing herself as a member of the light, she is attacked by the sanctioned Justice League in her own nation, leading to the somewhat amusing, somewhat dangerous situation of both trying to capture queen bee, while also trying to resist her powers.
- There'll be a fight between Miss Martian and Queen Bee. Megan is pushed to use her psychic powers to Mind Rape her, but at the last second, with Superboy talking her out of it, she refused to go through that dark path again.
- Queen Bee's been Out of Focus for a while, so jossed.
- Engagement: A double pun. While this marks the definitive end to shipping (somehow) for a couple, it also marks the beginning of the battle royale as the light makes its last stand against the league.
- Superboy and Miss Martian do become engaged, but the other side of the word never happens.
- Forever: The Series Finale, in which the light is FINALLY given full comeuppance for their 13 years of scheming. After taking down their Legion of Doom in what is the biggest battle sequence of the entire series, the light is slowly dismantled piece by piece. Ra's is taken care of in a more permanent way, Klarion is convinced to leave the Light's service, Luthor and Queen Bee are taken before the UN for Crimes against Humanity, and Vandal Savage after all this time, is Killed Off for Real, witnessing Mankind rejecting the destiny he had planned for them. Includes a brief "Where Are They Now?" Epilogue to show who got out of the game for good, and what heroes decided to keep fighting supercriminals wherever they might spring up.
- And maybe a brief glimpse of the Legion of Super-Heroes.
- This is ultimately jossed and the Light remains at large, though they do lose one member, that's because Granny betrayed them. Lex outright resigns from the U.N. rather than facing trial, and remains actve with the Light, and Queen Bee and Vandal and Klarion also retain their positions. The new recruits Deathstroke, Ultra-Humanite, and Zviad are also retained. The overall season turned out to be more of an Outsiders story that had a few Apokolips elements but also adapted one Teen Titans story most everyone knows. That being said, the Legion does get teased in the season 3 finale.
- Word of God is that it's Earth-16, so there's still at least 15 other extant universes.
- Apparently both the DCAU and YJ continuity are part of the New 52's multiverse as Earths-12 and -16 respectively. [1]
- Jossed, it's still the Team.
- He did die, unfortunately, so jossed.
- Raven appears to try and assemble the Titans so she can stop Trigon.
- Unfortunately jossed, Raven is a no show, another team forms for different reasons.
- Nightwing will be operating on his own in Bludhaven and meets Starfire when she crashes on Earth.
- He instead starts his own team, and likewise Starfire never appears.
- The League gains possession of a Mother Box and send it to Star Labs where an accident happens that leads to the creation of Cyborg and Vibe gaining his powers.
- Cyborg does appear, and alien tech is sent to S.T.A.R. Labs. However, it's actually a Father Box, and Vibe is just a classmate at Cyborg's school.
- A Superman focused episode where Supergirl is introduced.
- Supergirl is saved for the final episode of season 4.
- A Batman focused episode where Red Hood is introduced and focuses on Jason Todd's history with the Team.
- While not Batman-centric, and not even focused on him or his history, an amnesiac Jason is shown with Ra's in season 3.
- A Wonder Woman focused episode that introduces Donna Troy and elaborates on her history with the Team. The villains could be Doctor Psycho, Doctor Poison, and Doctor Cyber and there will be a humorous discussion about all of them having a doctor title.
- Troia does ultimately appear ... as United Nations Ambassador of Themyscira, the history with the Team is mostly subdued.
- A Green Lantern focused episode that could introduce the other Lantern Corps and will end with Sinestro being approached by Lex Luthor.
- Guy Gardner does get more focus in season 3, but it takes until season 4 to really given the Green Lanterns more focus.
- A Flash focused episode that will touch on the theme of legacy, especially that of the Flash. The Speed Force will be introduced or at least hinted at. The villains will be the Rogues and Cobalt Blue.
- Ultimately jossed with the Speed Force still not existing.
- An Aquaman focused episode that will focus on Tempest and what he's been up to. Lorena Marquez will be introduced and have powers connected to the Clear. Ocean Master will return as the villain.
- Kaldur becomes the new Aquaman and some focus is put on Atlantis, but Tempest is now the United Nations Ambassador of Atlantis, Lorena never shows, and Ocean Master is quietly killed off. Though he is eventually resurrected through cloning in season 4.
- A Martian Manhunter episode that will focus on a Red Martian, most likely Jemm, arriving on Earth after being inspired by the heroics of Martian Manhunter and Miss Martian.
- J'emm is saved for season 4, as the Prince of Mars.
- A Green Arrow focused episode that will introduce Arrowette.
- She sort of appeared as a civilian in season 1, but jossed anyway as her actually becoming Arrowette took place in the time skip between seasons 2 and 3, and she's already on the Team.
- A Captain Atom focused episode where he finds out that the Dilustel experiments that empowered him are still being done and they create Bombshell. The villain will be Major Force.
- This thread is jossed entirely, seems Captain Atom fell out of focus and so did the mention of Major Force.
- A Captain Marvel focused episode that will introduce Mary Marvel and Isis. The villains will be Black Adam, Ibac, Sabbac, Doctor Sivana, and Mister Mind.
- Mary aka Sergeant Marvel, previously confirmed to be a Team member in the time skip between seasons 1 and 2, finally appears in season 4 as a Sentinel of Magic. Not much to say about the other characters though, they don't appear aside from Captain Marvel's brief appearances.
- A Hawkman focused episode that will open up a plot thread involving the JSA. The villains will be Gentleman Ghost, Shadow Thief, Matter Master, and Fadeaway Man.
- Some focus is given when Hawkman is part of the space squad of Justice League members, but no JSA elements. We do actually get a modified version of Hro Talak out of it.
- An Atom focused episode that showcases the Atom legacy and will introduce Atom Smasher and Damage. The JSA Atom will be referenced. The villains will be Chronos and Bug-Eyed Bandit.
- Seems Atom fell out of focus and nothing else was done.
- A Blue Devil focused episode where the character is finally explored and introduces Kid Devil.
- Blue Devil still doesn't get much development, but he does become the Outsiders' den mother in season 4.
- An Adam Strange episode will introduce Equinox from Justice League United.
- Alas, nothing else done with him.
- A Justice Society episode that will introduce several associated legacy characters. The villains will be Vandal Savage and the Injustice Society.
- An Hourman episode
- A Sandman episode
- On the front of the JSA, Sandman, and Hourman, we don't get anything.
- A Stargirl episode
- Stargirl is ultimately in season 3 as a civilian, and only suits up prior to season 4.
- A Mister Terrific episode.
- Nothing much with him, he never appeared.
- A Batgirl episode where she is crippled because of the Joker and begins the road to becoming Oracle.
- Barbara was ultimately shown to have already become Oracle in the time skip, but season 4 does dedicate a flashback to how it happened, she was crippled defending Joker from Orphan aka Cassandra Wu-San.
- A Robin episode that will introduce Spoiler or Cassandra Cain who will start on the way to becoming Batgirl.
- Robin does get a bit of screentime for an episode but not much. Spoiler already debuted offscreen, and Cassandra aka Orphan is already introduced in Batman's squad, with neither being set for Batgirl yet.
- A Superboy episode where he's injured or his DNA starts breaking down and must seek out Lex Luthor for help. Said help will result in Conner starting to age and gaining his tactile telekinesis. At the end the beginning of Bizarro is seen.
- Fortunately we don't get this, Superboy is just fine and never goes to Lex for help.
- A Wonder Girl episode where she is either empowered by Ares or gains the Silent Armor to combat Trigon. The villains will be Ares and Cheetah, who will be approached by Lex Luthor.
- Wonder Girl does develop as an Outsider, but the scenario never occurs.
- A Kid Flash episode where he will actually enter the Speed Force to defeat an enemy and encounter Wally.
- Kid Flash develops as an Outsider, and that is it.
- An Aqualad episode where he will gain the hairstyle he had in the comics.
- Jossed entirely, and especially because Kaldur became the new Aquaman.
- A Miss Martian episode where she will be looking into metahuman experiments on children that the Light are continuing through stolen Reach research and will introduce Kole, Argent, Bunker, Solstice, and Terra.
- Miss Martian does get an episode, but it is very different. Terra shows up under much different circumstances however, so she is at least confirmed.
- Nightwing will be captured and held captive in Markovia. The League's inability to help will cause Batman to form the Outsiders.
- Nightwing does go to Markovia, but he is the one who assembles a team based heavily on the Outsiders, and is never captured, so somewhat jossed.
- An episode that somehow involves the future Batman, Terry McGinnis.
- Some clever thinking, but we unfortunately do not get him.
- John Constantine makes an appearance, voiced by Matt Ryan again. His animated design from the Justice League Dark movie and Constantine webseries already fits right in, since it's by the same character designer.
- Seems unfortunately John Constantine is a no-show.
- Psimon will once again end up in a paralyzed/catatonic state for a long time.
- Happens a fair bit in season 3, but not for a long time.
- Jossed, as Arsenal calms down and mellows out into Bowhunter Security, never meeting Jason.
- Suggestions
- Jeremy Shada
- Will Friedle
- Jossed. Greg Cipes is returning.
- It could be a Broad Strokes of Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated.
- Confirmed as of "First Impression", although it's more of a homage/heavy reference than an adaptation.
- Scooby being smart and able to talk yet people treat it as an Unusually Uninteresting Sight could be excused as him being a lab experiment and Velma having given him cybernetic implants or only the Gang can understand Scooby because of some sort of supernatural magic relating to his nature as an Anunnaki descendant.
- Professor Pericles is also a cybernetically-enhanced lab animal.
- Daphne & Velma transferred from Ridge Valley High to Coolsville/Crystal Cove High.
- Daphne gets Adaptational Intelligence because the stakes are higher in this version.
- Either Fred's parents are normal, criminals, or (wannabe) supervillains. Alternatively, they could Composite Character Mayor Jones and Donald Jones/Professor Huh? and use his mom from BCSD, which would funnily enough be similar to Artemis's situation with her parents.
- There was a previous Mystery Incorporated, just like in SDMI.
- Vincent Van Ghoul seems to be just an actor like in SDMI, but it turns out that he's secretly a sorcerer.
- The Light's ranks included the Brain and Monsieur Mallah, traditional enemies of the Doom Patrol, so it's possible that the Brain used some of the Light's resources to get rid of the Patrol. And given Deathstroke and Sportmaster are implied to have taken Max Lord's role as Ted's killer, so it's possible the Light similar replaced General Zahl here.