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** Robb is generally considered underwhelming compared to others characters due to his focus on single target status ailments in a game where random encounters have many enemies and resist ailments the more you use them. He is still useful thanks to poison doing great damage and spreading via Pandemic but he doesn't evolve much beyond that, with his other best skills being a second poison (Toxic) and a speed debuff. Even his late game spells are curiously weak, with Nature's Call and Soul Parasite being much weaker than Victor's final buffs and debuffs, a multi-target physical attack that is weaker than others and a sleep powder that, at best, can buy you some time on boss fights. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Even his ultra move is argueably the most situational in the game]], simply curing status ailments, giving resistances while removing enemy ailment resistances, which sounds nice but most enemies don't use ailments anyway and if they do, you can just use items.

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** Robb is generally considered underwhelming compared to others other characters due to his focus on single target status ailments in a game where random encounters have many enemies and resist ailments the more you use them. He is still useful thanks to poison doing great damage and spreading via Pandemic but he doesn't evolve much beyond that, with his other best skills being a second poison (Toxic) and a speed debuff. Even his late game spells are curiously weak, with Nature's Call and Soul Parasite being much weaker than Victor's final buffs and debuffs, a multi-target physical attack that is weaker than others and a sleep powder that, at best, can buy you some time on boss fights. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Even his ultra move is argueably the most situational in the game]], simply curing status ailments, giving resistances while removing enemy ailment resistances, which sounds nice but most enemies don't use ailments anyway and if they do, you can just use items.
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** [[MadScientist Daimbert]] is a scientist from Tormund, interested in transferring souls from one being to another and was exiled over wanting to try human experimentation. Founding the [[InnOfNoReturn White Rose Inn]], Daimbert would pose as a normal innkeeper to abduct passing travelers and experiment on them, such as transferring their souls into another person, which would drive them insane before they killed themselves, or trap their souls inside flowers [[AndIMustScream with them still fully conscious and aware]]. Abducting Lenne when the party is passing through, Daimbert used her to try to capture the entire party to experiment on them, [[DirtyCoward only to run away when they got free]]. When confronted by the heroes, Daimbert has the only survivor of his experiments, the little girl Arlette, and orders her to kill them, threatening to [[WouldHurtAChild beat her]] if she doesn't.

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** [[MadScientist Daimbert]] is a scientist from Tormund, Tormund interested in transferring souls from one being to another and was exiled over wanting to try human experimentation. Founding the [[InnOfNoReturn White Rose Inn]], Daimbert would pose as a normal innkeeper to abduct passing travelers and experiment on them, such as transferring their souls into another person, which would drive them insane before they killed themselves, or trap their souls inside flowers [[AndIMustScream with them still fully conscious and aware]]. Abducting Lenne when the party is passing through, Daimbert used her to try to capture the entire party to experiment on them, [[DirtyCoward only to run away when they got free]]. When confronted by the heroes, Daimbert has the only survivor of his experiments, the little girl Arlette, and orders her to kill them, threatening to [[WouldHurtAChild beat her]] if she doesn't.
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** [[MadScientist Daimbert]] was a scientist from Tormund that was interested in transferring souls from one being to another and was exiled over wanting to try human experimentation. Founding the [[InnOfNoReturn White Rose Inn]], Daimbert would pose as a normal innkeeper to abduct passing travelers and experiment on them, such as transferring their souls into another person, which would drive them insane before they killed themselves, or trap their souls inside flowers [[AndIMustScream with them still fully conscious and aware]]. Abducting Lenne when the party is passing through, Daimbert used her to try to capture the entire party to experiment on them, [[DirtyCoward only to run away when they got free]]. When confronted by the heroes, Daimbert has the only survivor of his experiments, the little girl Arlette, and orders her to kill them, threatening to [[WouldHurtAChild beat her]] if she doesn't.

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** [[MadScientist Daimbert]] was is a scientist from Tormund that was Tormund, interested in transferring souls from one being to another and was exiled over wanting to try human experimentation. Founding the [[InnOfNoReturn White Rose Inn]], Daimbert would pose as a normal innkeeper to abduct passing travelers and experiment on them, such as transferring their souls into another person, which would drive them insane before they killed themselves, or trap their souls inside flowers [[AndIMustScream with them still fully conscious and aware]]. Abducting Lenne when the party is passing through, Daimbert used her to try to capture the entire party to experiment on them, [[DirtyCoward only to run away when they got free]]. When confronted by the heroes, Daimbert has the only survivor of his experiments, the little girl Arlette, and orders her to kill them, threatening to [[WouldHurtAChild beat her]] if she doesn't.

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** While Kylian betrayed the Church in order to join Taryn for being the [[IFightForTheStrongestSide stronger side]], it's also possible that he disapproved of their secret plan to unleash the Harbinger, which would be much worse than Taryn is doing to Valandis.

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While Kylian betrayed the Church in order to join Taryn for being the [[IFightForTheStrongestSide stronger side]], it's also possible that he disapproved of their secret plan to unleash the Harbinger, which would be much worse than Taryn is doing to Valandis.Valandis.
*** The story implies that Kylian has an InferioritySuperiorityComplex towards Glenn. During Act 2 and beyond, Glenn gains his own clan and builds all kinds of connections across Valandis, and even gets several foreign diplomats to visit the base if enough members are collected. Meanwhile, Kylian is stuck being a minion for the Church with little influence and pleasures one of his superiors just to get anywhere in the organization, making it clear that Glenn managed to obtain everything Kylian wanted without the ambitious backstabbing. In the ending, Kylian is quick to kill Gwayn because the latter favors Glenn as the next 8th True King, and then he calls Glenn "nothing," making him come off as jealous rather than genuinely well-intentioned.
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** [[MadScientist Daimbert]] was a scientist from Tormund that was interested in transferring souls from one being to another and was exiled over wanting to try human experimentation. Founding the [[InnOfNoReturn White Rose Inn]], Daimbert would pose as a normal innkeeper to abduct passing travelers and experiment on them, such as transferring their souls into another person, which would drive them insane before they killed themselves, or trap their souls inside a flower [[AndIMustScream with them still fully conscious and aware]]. Abducting Lenne when the party is passing through, Daimbert used her to try to capture the entire party to experiment on them, [[DirtyCoward only to run away when they got free]]. When confronted by the heroes, Daimbert has the only survivor of his experiments, the little girl Arlette, and orders her to kill them, threatening to [[WouldHurtAChild beat her]] if she doesn't.

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** [[MadScientist Daimbert]] was a scientist from Tormund that was interested in transferring souls from one being to another and was exiled over wanting to try human experimentation. Founding the [[InnOfNoReturn White Rose Inn]], Daimbert would pose as a normal innkeeper to abduct passing travelers and experiment on them, such as transferring their souls into another person, which would drive them insane before they killed themselves, or trap their souls inside a flower flowers [[AndIMustScream with them still fully conscious and aware]]. Abducting Lenne when the party is passing through, Daimbert used her to try to capture the entire party to experiment on them, [[DirtyCoward only to run away when they got free]]. When confronted by the heroes, Daimbert has the only survivor of his experiments, the little girl Arlette, and orders her to kill them, threatening to [[WouldHurtAChild beat her]] if she doesn't.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: ''Chained Echoes'' looks on the covers to be a typical RPG like that of early ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' games with a setting that looks saccharine and has a combat system that does has little to no blood shed. However, the game is actually rated M for mature for suggestive themes and strong language. Profanity is used often, and rape and sexual promiscuity is mentioned in multiple scenes. Several characters are also shown committing suicide and characters mention other characters dying in gory and graphic detail. The themes and tone are very dark with the themes covering war and the devastation it brings.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: ''Chained Echoes'' looks on the covers to be a typical RPG like that of early ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' games with a setting that looks saccharine and has a combat system that does has little to no blood shed. However, the game is actually rated M for mature for suggestive themes and strong language. Profanity is used often, and rape and sexual promiscuity is mentioned in multiple scenes. Several characters are also shown committing suicide and characters mention other characters dying in gory and graphic detail. The themes and tone are very dark with the themes covering war and the devastation it brings.brings.
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*** Second only to agility is HP. Simply put, Chained Echoes is a low-numbers game that works off stat multipliers to give you your statistics. Because of this, defense and mind can be depressingly small without a ''lot'' of investment, but HP, which is naturally high to start with and routinely gets the biggest incremental bonuses, can make you nigh-immortal. With even a ''little'' investment, it's possible to give ''Amalia,'' the frailest party member by a country mile, enough health to ''utterly'' wall [[BonusBoss God King Gaemdriel's]] most powerful attack, which says a lot about how this makes the other characters unstoppable with HP investment.

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*** Second only to agility is HP. Simply put, Chained Echoes is a low-numbers game that works off stat multipliers to give you your statistics. Because of this, defense and mind can be depressingly small without a ''lot'' of investment, but HP, which is naturally high to start with and routinely gets the biggest incremental bonuses, can make you nigh-immortal. With even a ''little'' investment, it's possible to give ''Amalia,'' the frailest party member by a country mile, enough health to ''utterly'' wall [[BonusBoss [[{{Superboss}} God King Gaemdriel's]] most powerful attack, which says a lot about how this makes the other characters unstoppable with HP investment.
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Wanted to give an example since it's not immediately as obvious just how good HP is next to speed. Speed is king, of course, but the few times attacks sneak through it's useful to note just how pivotal HP stacking can be.


*** Second only to agility is HP. Simply put, Chained Echoes is a low-numbers game that works off stat multipliers to give you your statistics. Because of this, defense and mind can be depressingly small without a ''lot'' of investment, but HP, which is naturally high to start with and routinely gets the biggest incremental bonuses, can make you nigh-immortal.

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*** Second only to agility is HP. Simply put, Chained Echoes is a low-numbers game that works off stat multipliers to give you your statistics. Because of this, defense and mind can be depressingly small without a ''lot'' of investment, but HP, which is naturally high to start with and routinely gets the biggest incremental bonuses, can make you nigh-immortal. With even a ''little'' investment, it's possible to give ''Amalia,'' the frailest party member by a country mile, enough health to ''utterly'' wall [[BonusBoss God King Gaemdriel's]] most powerful attack, which says a lot about how this makes the other characters unstoppable with HP investment.
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* PlayTheGameSkipTheStory: The story has been criticized for its clunky script, punctuated with laughable swearing, its uneven and often jarring tone, and the sheer density of the script that leaves many of its character short-changed in their development. The gameplay, on the other hand, has seen nothing but praise. The turn-based combat offers its own spin on the formula, the progression-system grants a strong degree of customization with minimal grinding, the reward-board encourages exploration while the Sky Armors add a new level to traversal, and both the music and graphics are top-notch.

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* PlayTheGameSkipTheStory: The story has been criticized for its clunky script, punctuated with laughable swearing, its uneven and often jarring tone, and the sheer density of the script that leaves many of its character characters short-changed in their development. The gameplay, on the other hand, has seen nothing but praise. The turn-based combat offers its own spin on the formula, the progression-system grants a strong degree of customization with minimal grinding, the reward-board encourages exploration while the Sky Armors add a new level to traversal, and both the music and graphics are top-notch.
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*** Some players argue that Glenn isnt a humble introvert but a suicidally depressed boy who was raised in a slave city and turned soldier at young age. He stutters often, is mostly driven by guilt or someone else's dream and he wants to give up fighting multiple times through the story, once having delusions about helping orphans to cope with his failures. Some see his final decision as Glenn simply [[spoiler:seeing the perfect opportunity to end his own life.]]


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** Out of all sky armor weapon combos, Great Sword and Bowgun are bound to never leave your team once you realize how strong Energy Flow is. The ability to make your specials shots hit all enemies lets you spread poison, inact, blind or silence to all enemies at once, making every fight much faster and safer. By the endgame, you might even consider having multiple armors with either that or great sword plus ether cannon.
** While the emblems are supposed to give the player some degree of customization and freedom, Monk's HP Up and Bandit's Agi Up are such universally strong passives you can teach and put on all your units regardless or their job.


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** Out of all sky armor gear, the Inact RAM acessory is easily the most game breaking, doubling the amount of times an enemy will be inactive. Even if the enemy resists the second cast, the third will hit, meaning you can effectively make a boss skip 4 turns in a row.
** The HP Drain passive is extremely strong as it allows any attacker to heal themselves for free. The only character who learns this naturally is Glenn and makes him near immortal, everyone else has to use crystals.


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** The scene where we see Kylian and the bishop were [[spoiler:sleeping together, and he leaves the bedroom shirtless]]. While it's clearly meant to show how far Kylian is willing to go for power, it can come across as a bad attempt at shock value and completely unnecessary as it was already implied in a previous scene.
** The lack different expressions on portraits can cause some unintentional comedy, like Kylian telling Glenn a very dark and sad story about his sister... while his portrait is ''smiling''.
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* AudienceAlienatingEnding: Some people who played the game were not too thrilled about how it ends with Glenn’s decision to [[spoiler:sacrifice himself to save Kylian and wishing to reincarnate into a bird]] feeling like an AssPull that comes out of nowhere and that the game ends with several unresolved plot lines.

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* AudienceAlienatingEnding: Some people who played the game were not too thrilled about how it ends with Glenn’s decision to [[spoiler:sacrifice himself to save Kylian and wishing to reincarnate into a bird]] feeling like an AssPull that comes out has very little foreshadowing outside of nowhere and that [[spoiler:Kylian's implied [[MirrorCharacter similarities]] to Van]]. The developer's intention is for Glenn to help someone undeserving redeem themselves [[HistoryRepeats just like how]] a priest did the game ends with several unresolved plot lines.same for [[spoiler:his second life, but some thought he was being too trusting by handing the power of the 8th True King to Kylian]].
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Kylian wants to "make the the world a better place" [[TheUnfettered and he will sacrifice whatever it takes to achieve that]]. He is meant to be seen as a WellIntentionedExtremist with impressive determination, as shown by how much his words inspire Glenn to grow as a brave leader, but in the end he looks more like a hypocritical KnightTemplar who uses TheNeedsOfTheMany as a convenient excuse over and over. While the game does present him as a BigBadWannabe who gets a KarmicDeath at the hands of the Vaen, it also treats him as worthy of forgiveness and a second chance at life. He does help the party in the final phase of the FinalBoss fight, but many players felt it wasn't enough to justify Glenn handing the True King's power to him. Ironically, Kylian himself points out that he's being EasilyForgiven and that he can't be trusted to avoid making the same mistakes.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Kylian wants to "make the the world a better place" [[TheUnfettered and he will sacrifice whatever it takes to achieve that]]. He is meant to be seen as a WellIntentionedExtremist with impressive determination, as shown by how much his words inspire Glenn to grow as a brave leader, but in the end he looks more like a hypocritical KnightTemplar who uses TheNeedsOfTheMany as a convenient excuse over and over.over while never really accomplishing anything positive for anyone other than himself. While the game does present him as a BigBadWannabe who gets a KarmicDeath at the hands of the Vaen, it also treats him as worthy of forgiveness and a second chance at life. He does help the party in the final phase of the FinalBoss fight, but many players felt it wasn't enough to justify Glenn handing the True King's power to him. Ironically, Kylian himself points out that he's being EasilyForgiven and that he can't be trusted to avoid making the same mistakes.
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** Frederik's grand plan is to focus Valandis's hatred against him so that they can form a lasting peace after his death. However, his earlier resentment about being left to run Taryn alone seems to be genuine, so it's possible his extreme plan to maintain peace on Valandis is also a desperate means for him to be free of his burdens. Additionally, right before he dies, he states that he has nightmares about leading people through a cave without knowing where he's going and that he hopes to never dream of that ever again, showing that he was never ready to rule Taryn.

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** Frederik's Frederik
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grand plan is to focus Valandis's hatred against him so that they can form a lasting peace after his death. However, his earlier resentment about being left to run Taryn alone seems to be genuine, so it's possible his extreme plan to maintain peace on Valandis is also a desperate means for him to be free of his burdens. Additionally, right before he dies, he states that he has nightmares about leading people through a cave without knowing where he's going and that he hopes to never dream of that ever again, showing that he was never ready to rule Taryn.Taryn.
*** He offers to make Kylian a general if the latter detonates the Grand Grimoire in Marylea. While trusting the latter with the Grimoire seems foolish, he's also making Kylian take on an extremely risky task, making this seem like a UriahGambit to get rid of an [[RewardedAsATraitorDeserves untrustworthy pawn]] rather than blind trust. Considering how little Frederik actually cares about his generals, this puts his orders to Godfrey in Act 1 in a much darker light.
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*** Additionally, his words make it sound like he considers his redemption quest to be a shackle, and the story itself shows that while Glenn's desire for atonement turned him into a better person than Van, it is also treated as an unhealthy obsession that nearly turned him into a hermit or comatose. His decision to pass on can be seen as a way for him to forgive himself and let go of his obsession before it can consume him again.

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*** Additionally, his words make it sound like he considers his redemption quest to be a shackle, and the story itself shows that while Glenn's desire for atonement turned him into a better person than Van, it is also treated as an unhealthy obsession that nearly turned him into a hermit or comatose. The Chained Echo boss in his mind also seems to symbolize how his atonement has been twisted into self-imposed chains rather than something positive. His decision to pass on can be seen as a way for him to forgive himself and let go of his obsession before it can consume him again.

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** Glenn's decision to give away his immortality seems to contradict his altruism, but on the flip side, it's also possible that he fears the burden of power and immortality could cause him to turn out like the [[DrunkWithPower Vaen]]. Additionally, his GuiltComplex in the main story almost completely consumed him twice, and becoming an immortal True King could make another breakdown even worse for the entire world. Basically, he decided the potential toll on his mental health would outweigh any immediate good he could do as a True King.

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** Glenn's Glenn:
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decision to give away his immortality can be seen as both selfish and selfless. On one hand, he makes it clear that he considers himself too burnt out to handle the role of an immortal True King, making it seem like he's trying to escape his duty. On the other hand, he seems to contradict be doing so because he sees his altruism, but on the flip side, it's also possible that he fears the burden of power past self in Kylian and immortality could cause him to turn out like the [[DrunkWithPower Vaen]]. believes if he can become a better person, so can Kylian.
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Additionally, his GuiltComplex in words make it sound like he considers his redemption quest to be a shackle, and the main story almost completely consumed itself shows that while Glenn's desire for atonement turned him twice, and becoming into a better person than Van, it is also treated as an immortal True King could make another breakdown even worse for the entire world. Basically, he decided the potential toll unhealthy obsession that nearly turned him into a hermit or comatose. His decision to pass on his mental health would outweigh any immediate good he could do can be seen as a True King.way for him to forgive himself and let go of his obsession before it can consume him again.

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