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* InnocentlyInsensitive: When Phoebus suspects that Madellaine is only using Quasimodo so she can get La Fidele for Sarousch, Quasimodo assumes that Phoebus doesn't think someone could love him for his own merits. Phoebus immediately realizes his error and corrects what he means in a slightly more tactful manner.
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** When Phoebus suspects that Madellaine is only using Quasimodo so she can get La Fidele for Sarousch, Quasimodo assumes that Phoebus doesn't think someone could love him for his own merits. Phoebus immediately realizes his error and corrects what he means in a slightly more tactful manner.
** When Phoebus suspects that Madellaine is only using Quasimodo so she can get La Fidele for Sarousch, Quasimodo assumes that Phoebus doesn't think someone could love him for his own merits. Phoebus immediately realizes his error and corrects what he means in a slightly more tactful manner.
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* BrokenAesop:
** The message from the original, and in the sequel, is supposed to be that you can't judge by appearances and true beauty is on the inside. Unfortunately, it is distorted by the way that Quasimodo not only falls in love with the beautiful Madellaine, but she also goes through a rather formulaic HeelFaceTurn, and the villain Sarousch is not really all that handsome to the viewer, despite his own vanity, meaning that the viewers get a solid BeautyEqualsGoodness message instead.
** One of the other messages, that prejudice is wrong, is also broken. Phoebus is portrayed as being in the wrong for his prejudice against carnies, and he says that he was wrong at the end. But he wasn't wrong; the carnies really ''were'' stealing from people, and Madellaine was the only exception, so his suspicions were entirely justified!
** The message from the original, and in the sequel, is supposed to be that you can't judge by appearances and true beauty is on the inside. Unfortunately, it is distorted by the way that Quasimodo not only falls in love with the beautiful Madellaine, but she also goes through a rather formulaic HeelFaceTurn, and the villain Sarousch is not really all that handsome to the viewer, despite his own vanity, meaning that the viewers get a solid BeautyEqualsGoodness message instead.
** One of the other messages, that prejudice is wrong, is also broken. Phoebus is portrayed as being in the wrong for his prejudice against carnies, and he says that he was wrong at the end. But he wasn't wrong; the carnies really ''were'' stealing from people, and Madellaine was the only exception, so his suspicions were entirely justified!
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* FootFocus: Madellaine's barefeet while she practices tightrope-walking.
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Quasimodo falls in love with the beautiful and mysterious Madellaine, while trying to stop a thief posing as a magician from stealing a famous bell from the cathedral's belfry.
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Quasimodo (Creator/TomHulce) falls in love with the beautiful and mysterious Madellaine, Madellaine (Creator/JenniferLoveHewitt), while trying to stop Sarousch (Creator/MichaelMcKean), a thief posing as a magician from stealing a famous bell from the cathedral's belfry.
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** Inverted, big time. Despite coming out after ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'', which set the standard for DTV Disney films going forward. The animation in ''Hunchback II'' is usually considered to be some of the worst amongst the Disney sequels along with ''WesternAnimation/AladdinTheReturnOfJafar'' (which can be excused for it being a pilot to [[WesternAnimation/AladdinTheSeries the TV series that followed it]]) and ''WesternAnimation/PocahontasIIJourneyToANewWorld''. The animation is not as fluid, Notre Dame has a much smaller scope, the colors are a lot duller, and the layouts and camera work are less cinematic and grand. It's especially pronounced compared to the original and its sweeping visuals, complex character animation, and use of digital techniques including [[TwoDVisualsThreeDEffects CGI]] and the CAPS painting method (neither of which were used here). That said, there are some moments of fluidity despite the lower quality like with Madelaine's introduction, which comes down to Disney Japan's usual bouncy style; but winds up a detriment in and of itself as it makes everyone move as cartoonishly and rubbery as the gargoyles.
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** Inverted, big time. Despite coming out after ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'', which set the standard for DTV Disney films going forward. The animation in ''Hunchback II'' is usually considered to be some of the worst amongst the Disney sequels along with ''WesternAnimation/AladdinTheReturnOfJafar'' (which can be excused for it being a pilot to [[WesternAnimation/AladdinTheSeries the TV series that followed it]]) and ''WesternAnimation/PocahontasIIJourneyToANewWorld''.''WesternAnimation/BellesMagicalWorld''. The animation is not as fluid, Notre Dame has a much smaller scope, the colors are a lot duller, and the layouts and camera work are less cinematic and grand. It's especially pronounced compared to the original and its sweeping visuals, complex character animation, and use of digital techniques including [[TwoDVisualsThreeDEffects CGI]] and the CAPS painting method (neither of which were used here). That said, there are some moments of fluidity despite the lower quality like with Madelaine's introduction, which comes down to Disney Japan's usual bouncy style; but winds up a detriment in and of itself as it makes everyone move as cartoonishly and rubbery as the gargoyles.
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** One of the other messages, that prejudice is wrong, is also broken. Pheobus is portrayed as being in the wrong for his prejudice against carnies, and he says that he was wrong at the end. But he wasn't wrong; the carnies really ''were'' stealing from people, and Madellaine was the only exception, so his suspicions were entirely justified!
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** One of the other messages, that prejudice is wrong, is also broken. Pheobus Phoebus is portrayed as being in the wrong for his prejudice against carnies, and he says that he was wrong at the end. But he wasn't wrong; the carnies really ''were'' stealing from people, and Madellaine was the only exception, so his suspicions were entirely justified!
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** Inverted, big time. Despite coming out after ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'', which set the standard for DTV Disney films going forward. The animation in ''Hunchback II'' is usually considered to be some of the worst amongst the Disney sequels along with ''WesternAnimation/AladdinTheReturnOfJafar'' (which can be excused for it being a pilot to [[WesternAnimation/AladdinTheSeries the TV series that followed it]]) and ''WesternAnimation/PocahontasIIJourneyToANewWorld''. The animation is not as fluid, Notre Dame has a much smaller scope, the colors are a lot duller, and the layouts and camera work are less cinematic and grand. It's especially pronounced compared to the original and its sweeping visuals, complex character animation, and use of digital techniques including [[TwoDVisualsThreeDEffects CGI]]. That said, there are some moments of fluidity despite the lower quality, like with Madelaine's introduction. This comes down to Disney Japan's usual bouncy style; but winds up a detriment in and of itself as it makes everyone move as cartoonishly and rubbery as the gargoyles.
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** Inverted, big time. Despite coming out after ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'', which set the standard for DTV Disney films going forward. The animation in ''Hunchback II'' is usually considered to be some of the worst amongst the Disney sequels along with ''WesternAnimation/AladdinTheReturnOfJafar'' (which can be excused for it being a pilot to [[WesternAnimation/AladdinTheSeries the TV series that followed it]]) and ''WesternAnimation/PocahontasIIJourneyToANewWorld''. The animation is not as fluid, Notre Dame has a much smaller scope, the colors are a lot duller, and the layouts and camera work are less cinematic and grand. It's especially pronounced compared to the original and its sweeping visuals, complex character animation, and use of digital techniques including [[TwoDVisualsThreeDEffects CGI]]. CGI]] and the CAPS painting method (neither of which were used here). That said, there are some moments of fluidity despite the lower quality, quality like with Madelaine's introduction. This introduction, which comes down to Disney Japan's usual bouncy style; but winds up a detriment in and of itself as it makes everyone move as cartoonishly and rubbery as the gargoyles.
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* ArtEvolution: Inverted, big time. Despite coming out after ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'', which set the standard for DTV Disney films, the animation in ''Hunchback II'' is usually considered to be some of the worst amongst the Disney sequels, along with ''WesternAnimation/AladdinTheReturnOfJafar'' and ''WesternAnimation/PocahontasIIJourneyToANewWorld''. The animation is not as fluid, Notre Dame has a much smaller scope, and the colors are a lot more dull. It's especially pronounced compared to just how different the style is to the original. That said, there are some moments of fluidity despite the lower quality, like with Madellaine's introduction.
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** Inverted, big time. Despite coming out after ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'', which set the standard for DTV Disneyfilms, the films going forward. The animation in ''Hunchback II'' is usually considered to be some of the worst amongst the Disney sequels, sequels along with ''WesternAnimation/AladdinTheReturnOfJafar'' (which can be excused for it being a pilot to [[WesternAnimation/AladdinTheSeries the TV series that followed it]]) and ''WesternAnimation/PocahontasIIJourneyToANewWorld''. The animation is not as fluid, Notre Dame has a much smaller scope, and the colors are a lot more dull. duller, and the layouts and camera work are less cinematic and grand. It's especially pronounced compared to just how different the style is to the original. original and its sweeping visuals, complex character animation, and use of digital techniques including [[TwoDVisualsThreeDEffects CGI]]. That said, there are some moments of fluidity despite the lower quality, like with Madellaine's introduction.Madelaine's introduction. This comes down to Disney Japan's usual bouncy style; but winds up a detriment in and of itself as it makes everyone move as cartoonishly and rubbery as the gargoyles.
** Inverted, big time. Despite coming out after ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'', which set the standard for DTV Disney
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* ArtEvolution: Inverted, big time. Despite coming out after ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'', which set the standard for DTV Disney films, the animation in ''Hunchback II'' is usually considered to be some of the worst amongst the Disney sequels, along with ''WesternAnimation/AladdinTheReturnOfJafar'' and ''WesternAnimation/PocahontasIIJourneyToANewWorld''. The animation is not as fluid, Notre Dame has a much smaller scope, and the colors are a lot more dull. It's especially pronounced compared to just how different the style is to the original. That said, there are some moments of fluidity despite the lower quality, like with Madellaine's introduction.
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* NotAllowedToGrowUp: The little girl who was the first to walk up to Quasimodo at the end of the first movie makes a couple of cameos throughout the film. Despite the fact enough time has passed for Phoebus and Esmerelda to have a six-year old son, the little girl looks exactly the same.
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* InnocentlyInsensitive: When Phoebus tells his suspicions against Madellaine plotting to steal the La Fidele with Sarousch, Quasimodo asks if Phoebus thinks if anyone could love him for him. Phoebus immediately realizes his error and corrects what he means in a slightly more tactful manner.
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* InnocentlyInsensitive: When Phoebus tells his suspicions against suspects that Madellaine plotting to steal the is only using Quasimodo so she can get La Fidele with for Sarousch, Quasimodo asks if assumes that Phoebus thinks if anyone doesn't think someone could love him for him.his own merits. Phoebus immediately realizes his error and corrects what he means in a slightly more tactful manner.
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* SissyVillain: Sarousch. He speaks in an effeminate way and is in love with himself.
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* SissyVillain: Sarousch. He Sarousch speaks in an effeminate way and manner, [[{{Narcissist}} is in love unhealthily obsessed with himself.himself]], and poses little to no physical threat, primarily relying on his thugs to do his bidding.
* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Madellaine is established upfront as a NiceGirl, and during their first meeting, she genuinely gets along with Quasimodo while he speaks to her from the shadows. Despite this, she still runs away in horror after seeing his deformed appearance, and it takes her a while to get over her fear and try approaching him again.
* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Madellaine is established upfront as a NiceGirl, and during their first meeting, she genuinely gets along with Quasimodo while he speaks to her from the shadows. Despite this, she still runs away in horror after seeing his deformed appearance, and it takes her a while to get over her fear and try approaching him again.
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* TimeSkip: The sequel takes place six years after the first film.
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* TimeSkip: The sequel takes place six years after the first film.film, mainly evidenced by Phoebus and Esmerelda now having a young son.
* TheUnfought: Unlike Frollo, Sarousch never physically engages the heroes in combat, [[spoiler:and he and his men are unable to resist when they're finally caught]].
* TheUnfought: Unlike Frollo, Sarousch never physically engages the heroes in combat, [[spoiler:and he and his men are unable to resist when they're finally caught]].
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* AdultFear: Zephyr's disappearance and Sarousch using him as a hostage.
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Made in 2000 [[TheShelfOfMovieLanguishment but not released until 2002]], this [[DirectToVideo direct-to-video]] {{sequel}} to Disney's 1996 blockbuster ''WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame'' was produced by Creator/DisneytoonStudios.
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Made in 2000 [[TheShelfOfMovieLanguishment but not released until 2002]], this [[DirectToVideo direct-to-video]] {{sequel}} to Disney's 1996 blockbuster ''WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame'' ''WesternAnimation/{{The Hunchback of Notre Dame|Disney}}'' was produced by Creator/DisneytoonStudios.
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The 2002 [[DirectToVideo direct-to-video]] {{sequel}} to Disney's 1996 Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon film ''WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame'', the film is produced by Creator/DisneytoonStudios.
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* {{Narcissist}}: Sarousch. Phoebus lampshades it after interrogating him: "I'll let you get back to... yourself."
* NoSongForTheWicked: Sarousch does not get a song. He gets so many chances for it too!
* NoSongForTheWicked: Sarousch does not get a song. He gets so many chances for it too!
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* {{Narcissist}}: Sarousch. He spends most of his screentime admiring himself in his various mirrors, and Phoebus lampshades it after interrogating him: "I'll let you get back to... yourself."
* NoSongForTheWicked: Surprisingly, despite being far more flamboyant and dramatic than Frollo, and an actual performer in-universe, Sarousch does not geta song. He gets so many chances for it too!his own VillainSong.
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* WouldHurtAChild: When Zephyr is abducted, Madellaine warns Quasimodo that Sarousch won't hesitate to hurt or even kill the boy to get what he wants.
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* DemotedToExtra: Clopin has a handful of quick cameos, and isn't involved in the film's plot in any way. His only main role seems to just be directing the love festival.
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* {{Foil}}: Madellaine is a positive example for Quasi. Both are clumsy and EndearinglyDorky people who have grown up with cruel father figures yet remain good people. Quasi however is a deformed man who has spent his life as a recluse in the bell tower, while Madellaine is a beautiful woman who has traveled the world with the circus.
* {{Foil}}: Madellaine is a positive example for Quasi. Both are clumsy and EndearinglyDorky people who have grown up with cruel father figures yet remain good people. Quasi however is a deformed man who has spent his life as a recluse in the bell tower, while Madellaine is a beautiful woman who has traveled the world with the circus.
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* NotSoDifferent: Quasi and Madellaine; both of them are clumsy and nice people who are dominated by evil father figures.
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** One of the other messages, that prejudice is wrong, is also broken. Pheobus is portrayed as being in the wrong for his prejudice against carnies, and he says that he was wrong at the end. But he wasn't wrong; the carnies really ''were'' stealing from people, and Madellaine was the only exception, so his suspicious were entirely justified!
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** One of the other messages, that prejudice is wrong, is also broken. Pheobus is portrayed as being in the wrong for his prejudice against carnies, and he says that he was wrong at the end. But he wasn't wrong; the carnies really ''were'' stealing from people, and Madellaine was the only exception, so his suspicious suspicions were entirely justified!