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**** From another perspective, they both ''have'' experienced something of a better world. Superman's dream is a composite of his idealized version of Krypton and ''Smallville''. He's a farmer, growing what appears to be fields of Kryptonian wheat his wife is a CompositeCharacter of Lana Lang and Lois Lane. It's not just about what he could have had as Kal-El but also in many ways, as Clark Kent. Unfortunately, while Bruce ''has'' experienced familial love, both from his adoptive father figure in Alfred and through raising Robin and being the head of the Batfamily, and has a framework for understanding what his own childhood might be like without that one moment, it rates ''lower'' in his heart, than simply watching his father punch the mugger over and over. He derives more joy from watching Joe Chill suffer, than experiencing what his childhood could have been.
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFoPc52Kd8I Solomon Grundy's death]]. And keep in mind that Hawkgirl's culture is ''vehemently'' [[NayTheist atheist]].
-->'''Grundy:''' Do you think...Grundy's soul is waiting for him?\\
-->'''Grundy:''' Do you think...Grundy's soul is waiting for him?\\
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFoPc52Kd8I Solomon Grundy's death]]. And keep in mind that Hawkgirl's culture death]].
** Grundy says "Grundy thinks he is going away now" like a small child who doesn't understand the concept of death.
** Hawkgirl puts aside her culture's ''vehemently'' [[NayTheistatheist]].
-->'''Grundy:'''atheist]] beliefs to give him a final moment of comfort:
--->'''Grundy:''' Do you think...Grundy's soul is waiting for him?\\
** Grundy says "Grundy thinks he is going away now" like a small child who doesn't understand the concept of death.
** Hawkgirl puts aside her culture's ''vehemently'' [[NayTheist
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--->'''Grundy:''' Do you think...Grundy's soul is waiting for him?\\
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** Followed by: "In Seaboard City, crime doesn't pay." It's not the line itself, but the note of resignation in Tom Turbine's voice. He knows he is sentencing himself to die, but he does it anyway, because that is what they do. They fight the bad guys.
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** Followed by: "In Seaboard City, crime doesn't pay." It's not the line itself, but the note of resignation in Tom Turbine's voice. He knows he is sentencing himself (and the rest of the Justice Guild) to die, but he does it anyway, because that is what they do. They fight the bad guys.
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** When Ray is defeated, the survivors converge. When Green Lantern apologizes for destroying their world, the ice cream truck driver says in a resigned voice "No...we did that" and that "Being stuck in an ice cream truck for 40 years? That's a nightmare."
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* While on a mission, Batman is bit by Copperhead and nearly dies. Fortunately, he's given the antivenom. Unfortunately, it just nails home for Batman that he (a man who doesn't have any superpowers) is the weakest of the Justice League. He and Superman get into one of their rare arguments when Superman orders him to stay and recover. Knowing that Bruce secretly wishes to retain control in situations where he has none makes it an especially hard pill to swallow.
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* Batman and his alternate universe duplicate [[http://youtu.be/5Yxu4z9L31U arguing ethics and morality in the Batcave]].
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* Batman and his alternate universe duplicate [[http://youtu.be/5Yxu4z9L31U arguing ethics and morality in the Batcave]]. Especially saddening when Batman surrenders because Lord-Batman brings up Batman's entire reason for taking up the cowl in the first place.
--->'''Batman:''' You grabbed power!\\
'''Lord-Batman:''' And with that power, we've made a world where no eight year old boy will never lose his parents...''because of some punk with a gun''.
--->'''Batman:''' You grabbed power!\\
'''Lord-Batman:''' And with that power, we've made a world where no eight year old boy will never lose his parents...''because of some punk with a gun''.
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*** The worst part? In order to break free, Superman and Batman have to ''let'' Krypton be destroyed and the Waynes die. Not only do they have to live with the knowledge that their illusion is a lie...but have to grieve what could've been. It takes "Perchance to Dream" from "Batman: The Animated Series" and ramps up the tears.
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*** The worst part? In order to break free, Superman and Batman have to ''let'' Krypton be destroyed and the Waynes die. Not only do they have to live with the knowledge that their illusion is a lie...but have to grieve what could've been. It takes "Perchance to Dream" from "Batman: The Animated Series" (which had a similar premise) and ramps up the tears.tragedy.
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*** The worst part? In order to break free, Superman and Batman have to ''let'' Krypton be destroyed and the Waynes die. Not only do they have to live with the knowledge that their illusion is a lie...but have to grieve what could've been.
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*** The worst part? In order to break free, Superman and Batman have to ''let'' Krypton be destroyed and the Waynes die. Not only do they have to live with the knowledge that their illusion is a lie...but have to grieve what could've been. It takes "Perchance to Dream" from "Batman: The Animated Series" and ramps up the tears.
*** Superman saying goodbye to his son as Krypton is being destroyed is just...[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_jHoe-7ANE just watch the clip]].
*** Superman saying goodbye to his son as Krypton is being destroyed is just...[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_jHoe-7ANE just watch the clip]].
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*** The worst part? In order to break free, Superman and Batman have to ''let'' Krypton be destroyed and the Waynes die. Not only do they have to live with the knowledge that their illusion is a lie...but have to grieve what could've been.
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--> '''Lois:''' You've come to gloat! You've tried to get rid of him for years... are you happy, now?! ''Isn't this what you've always wanted?!'' ''I HATE'' YOU!'' '''''I HATE YOU!'''''
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--> '''Lois:''' You've come to gloat! You've tried to get rid of him for years... are you happy, now?! ''Isn't this what you've always wanted?!'' ''I HATE'' HATE YOU!'' '''''I HATE YOU!'''''
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--> '''Lois:''' You've come to gloat! You've tried to get rid of him for years... are you happy, now?! ''Isn't this what you've always wanted?!'' ''I HATE'' YOU!'' '''''I HATE YOU!'''''
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* While an unrepentant villain, Grodd's fate can be this, as he gets forced out against his will and ThrownOutTheAirlock.
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* Supergirl [[IChooseToStay choosing to stay in the 21st century]], marking her last appearance in the DCAU. Her final message to her cousin can be heartwrenching, especially when she tells Clark [[PlatonicDeclarationOfLove she loves him]] along with Ma and Pa Kent, all of whom [[NeverGotToSayGoodbye never got to say goodbye personally]]
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* Prince John's fate. He gets cursed with invulnerability, preventing him from being with his love in Valhalla, causing him to grow bitter and distant. WhoWantsToLiveForever indeed.
* J'onn leaving the League at the end. While he [[TheBusCameBack does return eventually]], it is still a heartfelt moment, as Diana reads Prince John's scroll mirroring J'onn's struggle, and the League, especially [[TheHeart Flash]], bid him farewell.
* J'onn leaving the League at the end. While he [[TheBusCameBack does return eventually]], it is still a heartfelt moment, as Diana reads Prince John's scroll mirroring J'onn's struggle, and the League, especially [[TheHeart Flash]], bid him farewell.
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* In a somber way, Waller had always tried to do what she thought was best for the world, but all her actions ultimately ended up creating the very monsters she wanted to destroy. What's worse is that because of all the misery in the world (most of which can be traced back to her and Cadmus), she genuinely believes that Terry turning into the second Batman was a good thing when Bruce had fought his entire life for a world where Batman would not exist.
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* Bizarro getting lobotomized by Luthor so the Secret Society can use him as DumbMuscle. It's really sad and horrifying that someone as childlike and more-or-less good-natured as the DCAU Bizarro was made into a mindless tool by the villains, especially after the [[HappyEndingOverride happy ending]] he got in ''WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries''. It's especially sad since this means Bizarro ultimately became what Luthor wanted: A Superman under his control.
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* Bizarro getting lobotomized by Luthor so the Secret Society can use him as DumbMuscle. It's really sad and horrifying that someone as childlike and more-or-less good-natured as the DCAU Bizarro was made into a mindless tool by the villains, especially after the [[HappyEndingOverride happy ending]] he got in ''WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries''. It's especially sad since this means Bizarro ultimately became what Luthor wanted: A Superman under his control.
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** It gets ''worse''. Diana falls in love with Lord-Batman, but a disguised Lord Wonder Woman [[NeckSnap snaps his neck]]. Diana goes [[BerserkButton berserk]] and strangles her to death with the Golden Lasso which promptly disintegrates due to being [[ThouShaltNotKill used to kill]]. To end the fighting, Lord-Superman and Diana have a solely political and loveless marriage (and have a test tube son named Zod), and Diana [[TookALevelInCynic loses her]] [[BreakTheCutie idealism we've always seen throughout the show]], having become convinced over the years that Lord-Superman's choice of rule is the best choice, since after all, crime and villainy has decreased substantially. By the time she returns to the main universe, it is now the era of ''Batman Beyond'', meaning that all her friends are gone or old. ''Especially'' noted when she reunites with [[ShipTease Bruce]] and laments how it's been so long since she's seen him in more than one way.
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** It gets ''worse''. Diana falls in love with Lord-Batman, but a disguised Lord Wonder Woman [[NeckSnap snaps his neck]]. Diana goes [[BerserkButton berserk]] and [[KillingYourAlternateSelf strangles her to death death]] with the Golden Lasso which promptly disintegrates due to being [[ThouShaltNotKill used to kill]]. To end the fighting, Lord-Superman and Diana have a solely political and loveless marriage (and have a test tube son named Zod), and Diana [[TookALevelInCynic loses her]] [[BreakTheCutie idealism we've always seen throughout the show]], having become convinced over the years that Lord-Superman's choice of rule is the best choice, since after all, crime and villainy has decreased substantially. By the time she returns to the main universe, it is now the era of ''Batman Beyond'', meaning that all her friends are gone or old. ''Especially'' noted when she reunites with [[ShipTease Bruce]] and laments how it's been so long since she's seen him in more than one way.
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*** Superman's expression as Captain Marvel gives him and the League a [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech verbal takedown]] is distressful. Whereas the six members look and listen on to Captain Marvel's words professionally, Superman looks away in shame, crushed that he shattered the kid's admiration of him.
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*** Superman's expression as Captain Marvel gives him and the League a [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech verbal takedown]] is distressful. disheartening. Whereas the six members look and listen on to Captain Marvel's words professionally, Superman looks away in shame, crushed that he shattered the kid's admiration of for him.
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* Wonder Woman's banishment at the end. No one actually wants it to happen, yet she broke the law and Hippolyta's hand is forced.
** Flash unknowingly makes it worse for both Diana and Hippolyta [[DudeWheresMyRespect by calling them out on this]]. Incidentally, the exile happens ''just'' after the men are all rewarded and praised for stopping Felix Faust and Hades.
** Flash unknowingly makes it worse for both Diana and Hippolyta [[DudeWheresMyRespect by calling them out on this]]. Incidentally, the exile happens ''just'' after the men are all rewarded and praised for stopping Felix Faust and Hades.
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* Wonder Woman's banishment at the end. No one actually wants it to happen, yet she broke the law and Hippolyta's hand is forced.
**forced. Flash unknowingly makes it worse for both Diana and Hippolyta [[DudeWheresMyRespect by calling them out on this]]. Incidentally, the exile happens ''just'' after the men are all rewarded and praised for stopping Felix Faust and Hades.
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*** Superman's expression as Captain Marvel gives him and the League a [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech verbal takedown takedown]] is distressful. Whereas the six members look and listen on to Captain Marvel's words professionally, Superman looks away in shame, crushed that he shattered the kid's admiration of him.
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*** Superman's expression as Captain Marvel gives him and the League a verbal takedown is distressful. Whereas the six members look and listen on to Captain Marvel's words professionally, Superman looks away in shame, crushed that he shattered the kid's admiration of him.
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