History Sandbox / Tremmor19wickcheck

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* Dance Moms Kalani and Kira definitely aren't white, but they're not exactly black ether...
* TokenTrio: Fenwick (sole [[BlackAndNerdy black kid]]), CJ (AmbiguouslyBrown [[TheSmurfettePrinciple sole girl of the group]]), and Crispo (white kid)
* AmbiguouslyBrown: * The mugger (and implied rapist) whom Catwoman cuts up with her claws in the alley.
* The Series 3 finale introduces Zaf, an AmbiguouslyBrown TokenMinority. [[spoiler:The same episode kills off Danny, who was the show's dark-skinned TokenMinority]]. In the Series 6 premiere, Zaf is injuried and PutOnABus. Halfway into the same series, Ben Kaplan, an AmbiguouslyBrown journalist, is introduced.
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Laura, played by Amelia Warner who curiously has white parents but is quite dark skinned herself.
* SpicyLatina: Penny, although she's more AmbiguouslyBrown. '''probably? low context'''
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Kim, the picture of her father is black and white, never zoomed in, and his name is never said so one never knows what his ethnicity is. '''again... probably?'''
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Anja has dark skin and seems like she might be part Black from her features. Her mother is White and we don't see her father, leaving it unknown if he's Black or not.
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Typical for a rich school in the Philippines, there are a lot of mixed and/or racially ambiguous and/or light-skinned students. Chuck Santos is played by a half-white actor with an Anglo surname, Markus Paterson.
* AdaptationalDiversity: The first incarnation of the Angels where all three of them are minorities: Jane is black, Elena is AmbiguouslyBrown (both Creator/EllaBalinska and Creator/NaomiScott are biracial), and Sabina (the only white woman in the trio) is AmbiguouslyBi.
* He promptly instructs a blond boy to fake an Australian accent and agree with him no matter what he says, an AmbiguouslyBrown passenger to disagree with him, and a female passenger to be morally outraged, filling (what he perceives are) the roles of Chase, Foreman and Cameron respectively.
* EqualOpportunityEvil: The bad guys are led by [[spoiler:a Tunisian, with an albino (according to the Bey) as the second in command]], with a German woman (though Conrad claims she's faking it), three black guys, two gay lovers, an eastern European, and several white and AmbiguouslyBrown men.
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Beck. His actor, Creator/AvanJogia, is half Indian, but the only thing we know about Beck's heritage is that he's part Canadian.
* TokenMinorityCouple: Paula, who's AmbiguouslyBrown, is secretly with Native Hawaiian Kai.
* MinorityPoliceOfficer: Gueacutedira is of north African descent, and Belkacem is AmbiguouslyBrown (the actress, Shirine Boutella, is from Algeria).
* TwoferTokenMinority: Pilar is the only woman of color in the cast, as a supporting character. She's AmbiguouslyBrown, with a name that's also ambiguous (played by a British Indian actress).
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Ryan has very dark features, slightly tanned skin and green eyes. His actor Thomas Fitzgerald is Irish with some English and Italian roots.


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[[folder: Specific reason to question characters race (6)]]
* AmbiguouslyBrown: The real O'Brien is white and Irish, but is played in the show by a British actor of partial Indian and Tunisian descent (though the character, in childhood flashbacks, is also from Callan, UsefulNotes/{{Ireland}}, and those sequences are conveniently desaturated or color-shifted so we can't quite tell his parents' skin colors). In the second episode, we learn about his sister Megan, who is portrayed as an adult by Creator/CamilleGuaty, an olive-skinned Cuban/Puerto Rican actress. However, in Season 2 we finally see their parents, who are white.
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Rainin Wild, who was played by a black American in-costume in his debut episode, but was replaced by a tanned Japanese man in subsequent appearances.
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Mads, her actress' heritage is a mess of ethnicities/races, which is confusing as her father and brother are white.
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Jezzie Pipkin is played by Cuban-American actress Creator/ElizabethPena. It's unclear whether Jezzie was meant to be Hispanic despite her surname.
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Billie is played by Sarah Shahi, who's of Iranian and Spanish descent. Though the actor who plays Billie's dad appears vaguely Middle Eastern and also has an accent, while her character's mother's White, what ethnicity she was meant to be isn't clear. Their last name, Mann, is no help.
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Bakuto. He has a Japanese-sounding name, but Ramon Rodriguez, who plays him, is Puerto Rican. His childhood boogeyman being [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_Man the Sack Man]] implies Latino or Brazilian heritage. In the comics, Bakuto runs a South American faction of the Hand. Of course, as ''The Defenders'' reveals, [[spoiler:he, like Davos, hails from K'un-L'un.]]

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[[folder: Character is racially ambiguous In Universe (17)]]
* Ground Floor People assume Threepeat is Chinese, but he's actually Filipino[[note]]The Philippines does have a sizable ethnic Chinese population[[/note]].
* Series/SpunOut AmbiguouslyBrown: Beckett invokes this about Nelson while they yell insults at each other.
--> "I'd make a joke about your nationality, but I don't know what it is!"
* AmbiguouslyBrown: There's a scene where Precious and Miss Weiss are talking, and Precious can't tell what ethnicity she is, and asks if she's "Italian, or black, or some type of Spanish." Not to mention that "Weiss" is usually an Ashkenazic Jewish surname and Jews of mixed race descent aren't completely unheard of. If Miss Weiss is anything like [[Music/MariahCarey her actress,]] she should be bi-racial.
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Jamie. Justified as her mother cannot remember what ethnicity her absentee father was; possibilities include Greek, Russian, Hispanic and Middle-Eastern. [[note]] In case you're curious, Creator/MilaKunis was born in Ukraine to Jewish parents. [[/note]]
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Woody uses his vague ethnicity to pretend to be people from all over the world (Kayvan Novak is of mixed British and Iranian decent).
* AmbiguouslyBrown: [[invoked]] Key, who is biracial. [[PlaysGreatEthnics He uses it to his advantage]], just like he did on ''[=MADtv=]''. In fact, both Key and Peele were born from biracial families (half-black, half-white), but generally Peele tends to just play black characters, while Key has a wider range.[[note]]Mostly if he's not playing a black man, he plays Middle Eastern, Indian [both the Native American Indian and the "from India" Indian], and Hispanic.[[/note]]
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Zan, the internet personality trolling Paper Boi. {{Lampshad|eHanging}}ing this becomes a RunningGag in the episode "The Streisand Effect"; every time he's mentioned, characters ask something along the lines of "Isn't he Dominican?", "Is he Asian?", or (after he casually uses the N-word) "[[NWordPrivileges Are you even black?]]"
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Stu at first assumes that Vic is white, then hazards a number of guesses at his ethnicity, including Puerto Rican and Chinese. Vic shakes his head at all of Stu's guesses. In real life, Dave Bautista is Greek and Filipino.
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Nichols has brown skin and dark curly hair. [[spoiler: This allows him to pass himself off as UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}} (Middle Eastern) and the [[DeadPersonImpersonation real]] Brandon Nichols (Native American)]].
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Leslie often remarks on Ann's unclear ethnicity, which is never revealed in the show, though Creator/RashidaJones is herself half African-American and half Ashkenazi Jew.
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Zach asks Creator/RashidaJones what race she is.
* AmbiguouslyBrown: This is a plot point. [[spoiler:Daphne]] is revealed to be mixed race, "a creole mother and white father" which lets her pass as white. She has a black half brother who's familial connection she hides.
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Karen, to Michael at least ("Wow, you look very exotic. Was your dad a GI?"). Her last name (Filipelli) and dialogue suggest she is Italian-American. Rashida Jones is half-Black, half-Jewish.
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Rex notes Lori's ambiguous ethnicity, hazarding that she's Baltic or Czech. Kunis was born in Ukraine to Jewish parents.
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Schmidt's impression of Cece, before she states that her parents are Indian. Creator/HannahSimone, who plays her, is a mixture of Indian, German, Italian, Cypriot, and Greek.
* {{Jerkass}}: The Senator who gets his car stolen by Xander near the beginning. We even get his racism demonstrated [[AmbiguouslyBrown when he assumes Xander is Mexican]], so we know he's a jerk.

* AmbiguouslyBrown: Lauren. She's brought up an uncle in Syria and being in the Middle East when she was younger. Everyone had different theories.
-->'''Lauren''': I'm from Long Island!
-->'''Simon''': But you're our diversity hire! If anyone asks, just say you're "other." [[labelnote:*]]For what it's worth, Amanda Setton is Jewish (Syrian Jewish on one side, and Ashkenazi Jewish on the other)[[/labelnote]]

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* AmbiguouslyBrown: So Elena is supposed to be Russian??
* AmbiguouslyBrown - Ray, and Tina, but their child together is clearly white.
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Bryce, Tyler, and Taryn.
* At this point in the show, every named character who's black or AmbiguouslyBrown (except for [[spoiler:Anthony, Anne, and Diego,]]) has been killed. Being black on this show is like wearing a RedShirt.
* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: The first season was trying to find its legs. Florence wasn't initially a ServileSnarker (but thanks to Louise's permission, she became one), and Allan went from being AmbiguouslyBrown to straight up Caucasian.
* [[AmbiguouslyBrown Ambiguously White]]: The nun named Janet, as far as her features go.
** Subverted with Nataly Green. An implicitly French nun as seen from the montage that implied she gets off from an Air France airplane and her name (though she bears an English surname), but the actress that played her didn't look rather convincing. The actress that played Janet (who is even credited as UsefulNotes/MarieAntoinette) would've pulled it off better. '''this example is confusing and probably outright misuse'''
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Averted with siblings Sue and Johnny Storm, played by Caucasian actress Kate Mara and actor Michael B Jordan. Justified since they are adoptive siblings. '''do we really need averted examples? '''
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Many characters are some form of ''mestizo'', which is TruthInTelevision, given how Filipinos generally tend to be mixed to various degrees. Antonio Luna himself was apparently one of the less mixed ones (a point of contention with his older brother, Juan, the artist, who was acquitted of the murders of his wife and mother-in-law in Paris on effectively racist grounds—i.e., that his ''indio'' (native) race was predisposed to such anyway). '''if they are specifically mixed in universe theyre not ambiguous...'''
* Jesus, however, looks incredibly Caucasian, thought He [[ButNotTooWhite may have a tan]] or be AmbiguouslyBrown. It's hard to tell with the lighting. '''im not sur where to put this'''

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[[folder: The actor isn't white]]

* Dance Moms Kalani and Kira definitely aren't white, but they're not exactly black ether...

* The Series 3 finale introduces Zaf, an AmbiguouslyBrown TokenMinority. [[spoiler:The same episode kills off Danny, who was the show's dark-skinned TokenMinority]]. In the Series 6 premiere, Zaf is injuried and PutOnABus. Halfway into the same series, Ben Kaplan, an AmbiguouslyBrown journalist, is introduced.

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[[folder: Ambiguous In Universe]]

* Jesus, however, looks incredibly Caucasian, thought He [[ButNotTooWhite may have a tan]] or be AmbiguouslyBrown. It's hard to tell with the lighting.

* AmbiguouslyBrown - Ray, and Tina.

** Subverted with Nataly Green. An implicitly French nun as seen from the montage that implied she gets off from an Air France airplane and her name (though she bears an English surname), but the actress that played her didn't look rather convincing. The actress that played Janet (who is even credited as UsefulNotes/MarieAntoinette) would've pulled it off better. '''this is confusing and probably putright misuse]]

* Dance Moms Kalani and Kira definitely aren't white, but they're not exactly black ether...

* The Series 3 finale introduces Zaf, an AmbiguouslyBrown TokenMinority. [[spoiler:The same episode kills off Danny, who was the show's dark-skinned TokenMinority]]. In the Series 6 premiere, Zaf is injuried and PutOnABus. Halfway into the same series, Ben Kaplan, an AmbiguouslyBrown journalist, is introduced.

[[Folder: Specific reason to question characters race]]

* Dance Moms Kalani and Kira definitely aren't white, but they're not exactly black ether...

* The Series 3 finale introduces Zaf, an AmbiguouslyBrown TokenMinority. [[spoiler:The same episode kills off Danny, who was the show's dark-skinned TokenMinority]]. In the Series 6 premiere, Zaf is injuried and PutOnABus. Halfway into the same series, Ben Kaplan, an AmbiguouslyBrown journalist, is introduced.