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* Last we saw Chrysalis, her defeat imprisonment was played for laughs. Here, however, it's played far more seriously, as she is [[spoiler:or rather ''was'']] set for a 1000 year sentence and ''seems'' ''[[VillainousBSOD utterly broken]]'' by it. [[LimpAndLivid She appears terrible]], learning that Twilight Sparkle has become an alicorn princess has seemingly eroded her sanity, and leaning on the DespairEventHorizon. The Mane 6 looked genuinely shocked at her state. Now yes, granted, TheReveal shows [[spoiler:this is not Chrysalis at all, rather one of her commanders/lieutenants disguised as her, but even this can then be chalked up as a testament to just how diabolically devious and cunning Chrysalis is. She played Twilight and co. like a fiddle, playing on their emotions to make them feel sorry for her and trust her enough so could make her escape. MagnificentBitch indeed.]]

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* Last we saw Chrysalis, her defeat imprisonment was played for laughs. Here, however, it's played far more seriously, as she is [[spoiler:or rather ''was'']] set for a 1000 year sentence and ''seems'' ''[[VillainousBSOD utterly broken]]'' by it. [[LimpAndLivid She appears terrible]], learning that Twilight Sparkle has become an alicorn princess has seemingly eroded her sanity, and leaning on the DespairEventHorizon. The Mane 6 looked genuinely shocked at her state. Now yes, granted, TheReveal shows [[spoiler:this is not Chrysalis at all, rather one of her commanders/lieutenants disguised as her, but even this can then be chalked up as a testament to just how diabolically devious and cunning Chrysalis is. She played Twilight and co. like a fiddle, playing on their emotions to make them feel sorry for her and trust her enough so could make her escape. MagnificentBitch indeed.]]
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* The Umbrum, once they’re revealed, make this a borderline CosmicHorrorStory. Mysterious and powerful? Check. GoMadFromTheRevelation? Sombra does so upon learning his connection to them. BrokeYourArmPunchingOutCthulhu? Stopping them cost the Crystal Empire [[DoomedByCanon per canon]], Radiant Hope lost ''everything'' she cared about for her role in stopping them, and the actual Umbrum are still out there. [[spoiler:The ending shows that even the seemingly decisive defeat of Sombra on the show was but a delay for both Sombra and the Umbrum, and sets them up to return on unsuspecting ponykind.]]

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* The Umbrum, once they’re revealed, make this a borderline CosmicHorrorStory. Mysterious and powerful? Check. GoMadFromTheRevelation? powerful beings, Sombra does so proceeds to GoMadFromTheRevelation upon learning his connection to them. BrokeYourArmPunchingOutCthulhu? Stopping them cost the Crystal Empire [[DoomedByCanon per canon]], Radiant Hope lost ''everything'' she cared about for her role in stopping them, and the actual Umbrum are still out there. [[spoiler:The ending shows that even the seemingly decisive defeat of Sombra on the show was but a delay for both Sombra and the Umbrum, and sets them up to return on unsuspecting ponykind.]]
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** This makes his appearance on the show scarier, since his comparatively animalistic behavior there implies ''[[UpToEleven he’s gotten even more insane]]'', his greater size implies ''he got more powerful then ever'', [[spoiler:'''and he’s about to return''']].

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** This makes his appearance on the show scarier, since his comparatively animalistic behavior there implies ''[[UpToEleven he’s ''he’s gotten even more insane]]'', insane'', his greater size implies ''he got more powerful then ever'', [[spoiler:'''and he’s about to return''']].
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** This makes his appearance on the show scarier, since his comparatively animalistic behavior there implies ''[[UpToEleven he’s gotten even more insane]]'', his greater size implies ''he got more powerful then ever'', [[spoiler:and he’s about to return]].

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** This makes his appearance on the show scarier, since his comparatively animalistic behavior there implies ''[[UpToEleven he’s gotten even more insane]]'', his greater size implies ''he got more powerful then ever'', [[spoiler:and [[spoiler:'''and he’s about to return]].return''']].



* They make ''[[BigGood Celestia]]'' this, proving the best example in the franchise that [[GoodIsNotSoft her benevolence won’t save you if you’re bad enough]]. SHE is the reason the changelings have their ragged, hole-filled appearance. The best Twilight Sparkle (with her powers boosted) could do left them with AmusingInjuries, Celesita left [[ScarsAreForever damage so permanent]] it apparently passed on to future generations as a kind of genetic trait. Scary enough that the changelings [[PayEvilUntoEvil did enough to deserve it]], [[BewareTheNiceOnes but damn]].

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* They make ''[[BigGood Celestia]]'' this, proving the best example in the franchise that [[GoodIsNotSoft her benevolence won’t save you if you’re bad enough]]. SHE is the reason the changelings have their ragged, hole-filled appearance. The best Twilight Sparkle (with her powers boosted) could do left them with AmusingInjuries, Celesita Celestia left [[ScarsAreForever damage so permanent]] it apparently passed on to future generations as a kind of genetic trait. Scary enough that the changelings [[PayEvilUntoEvil did enough to deserve it]], [[BewareTheNiceOnes but damn]].
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* The reveal that Chrysalis and her kind have [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld existed at least 1000 years prior]]. While enough major villains existed back then to warrant a LampshadeHanging, [[SealedEvilInACan unlike them]], the changelings seem to have been active during most of that time, meaning they potentially have more atrocities under their belt then any other villain in the series. That they were still so effective as to come off as an OutsideContextVillain in their debut…

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* The reveal that Chrysalis and her kind have [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld existed at least 1000 years prior]]. While enough major villains existed back then to warrant a LampshadeHanging, [[SealedEvilInACan unlike them]], the changelings seem to have been active during most of that time, meaning they potentially have more atrocities under their belt then any other villain in the series. That they were still so effective as to come off as an OutsideContextVillain OutsideContextProblem in their debut…debut...
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* The changelings' origins as a species, the first of their hordes were spawned of a mutated carnivorous tree from flies and pony skeletons, if not ''corpes''! They're more AlwaysChaoticEvil then ever now that they have elements of ZombieApocalypse in their nature. This achieves the non-insignificant feet of being darker then any fan theories. Those with weak constitutions may be grateful UnreliableNarrator may be in effect.

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* The changelings' origins as a species, the first of their hordes were spawned of a mutated carnivorous tree from flies and pony skeletons, if not ''corpes''! ''corpses''! They're more AlwaysChaoticEvil then ever now that they have elements of ZombieApocalypse in their nature. This achieves the non-insignificant feet feat of being darker then any fan theories. Those with weak constitutions may be grateful UnreliableNarrator may be in effect.



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* Last we saw Chrysalis, her defeat imprisonment was played for laughs. Here, however, it's played far more seriously, as she is [[spoiler:or rather ''was'']] set for a 1000 year sentence and ''seems'' ''[[VillainousBSOD utterly broken]]'' by it. [[LimpAndLivid She appears terrible]], learning that Twilight Sparkle has become an alicorn princess has seemingly eroded her sanity, and leaning on the DespairEventHorizon. The Mane 6 looked genuinely shocked at her state. Now yes, granted, TheReveal shows [[spoiler:this is not Chrysalis at all, rather one of her commanders/lieutenants disguised as her, but even this can then be chalked up as a testament to just how diabolically devious and cunning Chrysalis is. She played Twilight and co. like a fiddle, playing on their emotions to make them feel sorry for her and trust her enough so could make her escape. [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bitch]] indeed.]]

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* Last we saw Chrysalis, her defeat imprisonment was played for laughs. Here, however, it's played far more seriously, as she is [[spoiler:or rather ''was'']] set for a 1000 year sentence and ''seems'' ''[[VillainousBSOD utterly broken]]'' by it. [[LimpAndLivid She appears terrible]], learning that Twilight Sparkle has become an alicorn princess has seemingly eroded her sanity, and leaning on the DespairEventHorizon. The Mane 6 looked genuinely shocked at her state. Now yes, granted, TheReveal shows [[spoiler:this is not Chrysalis at all, rather one of her commanders/lieutenants disguised as her, but even this can then be chalked up as a testament to just how diabolically devious and cunning Chrysalis is. She played Twilight and co. like a fiddle, playing on their emotions to make them feel sorry for her and trust her enough so could make her escape. [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bitch]] MagnificentBitch indeed.]]
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* Last we saw Chrysalis, her defeat imprisonment was played for laughs. Here, however, it's played far more seriously, as she is [[spoiler:or rather ''was'']] set for a 1000 year sentence and ''seems'' ''[[VillainousBSOD utterly broken]]'' by it. [[LimpAndLivid She appears terrible]], learning that Twilight Sparkle has become an alicorn princess has seemingly eroded her sanity, and leaning on the [[DespairEventHorizon]]. The Mane 6 looked genuinely shocked at her state. Now yes, granted, TheReveal shows [[spoiler:this is not Chrysalis at all, rather one of her commanders/lieutenants disguised as her, but even this can then be chalked up as a testament to just how diabolically devious and cunning Chrysalis is. She played Twilight and co. like a fiddle, playing on their emotions to make them feel sorry for her and trust her enough so could make her escape. [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bitch]] indeed.]]

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* Last we saw Chrysalis, her defeat imprisonment was played for laughs. Here, however, it's played far more seriously, as she is [[spoiler:or rather ''was'']] set for a 1000 year sentence and ''seems'' ''[[VillainousBSOD utterly broken]]'' by it. [[LimpAndLivid She appears terrible]], learning that Twilight Sparkle has become an alicorn princess has seemingly eroded her sanity, and leaning on the [[DespairEventHorizon]].DespairEventHorizon. The Mane 6 looked genuinely shocked at her state. Now yes, granted, TheReveal shows [[spoiler:this is not Chrysalis at all, rather one of her commanders/lieutenants disguised as her, but even this can then be chalked up as a testament to just how diabolically devious and cunning Chrysalis is. She played Twilight and co. like a fiddle, playing on their emotions to make them feel sorry for her and trust her enough so could make her escape. [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bitch]] indeed.]]



* [[spoiler:By breaking out, Chrysalis has pulled of the first straight example of TheBadGuyWins "in the franchise". Every other time they had this level of success, they were still defeated at the end of the episode/two-parter/comic arc. Even those who avoided significant consequences at least had their EvilPlan thwarted or delayed. Here, she scores a straight up win that it will take at least in till the next story to reverse. By that score, Chrysalis is now the most effective villain in the series. And she is out there…]] Sweet dreams.

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* [[spoiler:By breaking out, Chrysalis has pulled of the first straight example of TheBadGuyWins "in ''in the franchise".franchise''. Every other time they had this level of success, they were still defeated at the end of the episode/two-parter/comic arc. Even those who avoided significant consequences at least had their EvilPlan thwarted or delayed. Here, she scores a straight up win that it will take at least in till the next story to reverse. By that score, Chrysalis is now the most effective villain in the series. And she is out there…]] Sweet dreams.
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* Last we saw Chrysalis, her imprisonment was played for laughs. Here, she seems ''[[VillainousBSOD utterly broken]]'' by it. [[LimpAndLivid She looks terrible]], learning that Twilight Sparkle has become an alicorn princess has eroded her sanity, and she’s [[DespairEventHorizon pretty much succumb to despair]]. And they plan to keep her like this for the next ''1000 years'', the Mane 6 were shocked at her state.
** [[spoiler:The ''real'' Chrysalis manages to scarier then ever. While her insanity towards Twilight seems genuine, it has not diminished her threat ''at all''. She still had the intelligence to have a changeling impersonate her while she hid in the ceiling for who knows how long. Given that she won against Twilight after literally getting the drop on her (terrifying itself) there's reason to think she's more dangerous then ever.]]
* The reveal that they have [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld existed at least 1000 years prior]]. While enough major villains existed back then to warrant a LampshadeHanging, [[SealedEvilInACan unlike them]], the changelings seem to have been active during most of that time, meaning they potentially have more atrocities under their belt then any other villain in the series. That they were still so effective as to come off as an OutsideContextVillain in their debut…

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* Last we saw Chrysalis, her defeat imprisonment was played for laughs. Here, however, it's played far more seriously, as she seems is [[spoiler:or rather ''was'']] set for a 1000 year sentence and ''seems'' ''[[VillainousBSOD utterly broken]]'' by it. [[LimpAndLivid She looks appears terrible]], learning that Twilight Sparkle has become an alicorn princess has seemingly eroded her sanity, and she’s [[DespairEventHorizon pretty much succumb to despair]]. And they plan to keep her like this for leaning on the next ''1000 years'', the [[DespairEventHorizon]]. The Mane 6 were looked genuinely shocked at her state.
state. Now yes, granted, TheReveal shows [[spoiler:this is not Chrysalis at all, rather one of her commanders/lieutenants disguised as her, but even this can then be chalked up as a testament to just how diabolically devious and cunning Chrysalis is. She played Twilight and co. like a fiddle, playing on their emotions to make them feel sorry for her and trust her enough so could make her escape. [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bitch]] indeed.]]
** [[spoiler:The ''real'' Chrysalis manages to be scarier then ever. While her insanity borderline insane obsession towards Twilight seems genuine, it has not diminished her threat ''at all''. She still had the intelligence to have a changeling impersonate her while she hid in the ceiling for who knows how long. Given that she won against Twilight after literally getting the drop on her (terrifying itself) there's reason to think she's more dangerous then ever.]]
* The reveal that they Chrysalis and her kind have [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld existed at least 1000 years prior]]. While enough major villains existed back then to warrant a LampshadeHanging, [[SealedEvilInACan unlike them]], the changelings seem to have been active during most of that time, meaning they potentially have more atrocities under their belt then any other villain in the series. That they were still so effective as to come off as an OutsideContextVillain in their debut…



* They make ''[[BigGood Celestia]]'' this, proving the best example in the franchise that [[GoodIsNotSoft her benevolence won’t save you if you’re bad enough]]. SHE is the reason the changelings have their ragged, hole-filled appearance. The best Twilight Sparkle (with her powers boosted) could do left them with AmusingInjuries, Celesita left [[ScarsAreForever damage so permanent]] it apparently passed on to future generations. Scary enough that the changelings [[PayEvilUntoEvil did enough to deserve it]], [[BewareTheNiceOnes but damn]].
* The changelings origins, they were spawned of a mutated carnivorous tree from flies and pony skeletons, if not ''corpes''! They're more AlwaysChaoticEvil then ever now that they have elements of ZombieApocalypse in their nature. This achieves the non-insignificant feet of being darker then any fan theories. Those with weak constitutions may be grateful UnreliableNarrator may be in effect.

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* They make ''[[BigGood Celestia]]'' this, proving the best example in the franchise that [[GoodIsNotSoft her benevolence won’t save you if you’re bad enough]]. SHE is the reason the changelings have their ragged, hole-filled appearance. The best Twilight Sparkle (with her powers boosted) could do left them with AmusingInjuries, Celesita left [[ScarsAreForever damage so permanent]] it apparently passed on to future generations.generations as a kind of genetic trait. Scary enough that the changelings [[PayEvilUntoEvil did enough to deserve it]], [[BewareTheNiceOnes but damn]].
* The changelings origins, they changelings' origins as a species, the first of their hordes were spawned of a mutated carnivorous tree from flies and pony skeletons, if not ''corpes''! They're more AlwaysChaoticEvil then ever now that they have elements of ZombieApocalypse in their nature. This achieves the non-insignificant feet of being darker then any fan theories. Those with weak constitutions may be grateful UnreliableNarrator may be in effect.
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* Last we saw Chrysalis, her imprisonment was played for laughs. Here, she seems [[VillainousBSOD utterly broken]]'' by it. [[LimpAndLivid She looks terrible]], learning that Twilight Sparkle has become an alicorn princess has eroded her sanity, and she’s [[DespairEventHorizon pretty much succumb to despair]]. And they plan to keep her like this for the next ''1000 years'', the Mane 6 were shocked at her state.

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* Last we saw Chrysalis, her imprisonment was played for laughs. Here, she seems [[VillainousBSOD ''[[VillainousBSOD utterly broken]]'' by it. [[LimpAndLivid She looks terrible]], learning that Twilight Sparkle has become an alicorn princess has eroded her sanity, and she’s [[DespairEventHorizon pretty much succumb to despair]]. And they plan to keep her like this for the next ''1000 years'', the Mane 6 were shocked at her state.
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[[spoiler:By breaking out, Chrysalis has pulled of the first straight example of TheBadGuyWins "in the franchise". Every other time they had this level of success, they were still defeated at the end of the episode/two-parter/comic arc. Even those who avoided significant consequences at least had their EvilPlan thwarted or delayed. Here, she scores a straight up win that it will take at least in till the next story to reverse. By that score, Chrysalis is now the most effective villain in the series. And she is out there…]] Sweet dreams.

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* [[spoiler:By breaking out, Chrysalis has pulled of the first straight example of TheBadGuyWins "in the franchise". Every other time they had this level of success, they were still defeated at the end of the episode/two-parter/comic arc. Even those who avoided significant consequences at least had their EvilPlan thwarted or delayed. Here, she scores a straight up win that it will take at least in till the next story to reverse. By that score, Chrysalis is now the most effective villain in the series. And she is out there…]] Sweet dreams.
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The [[ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW comics]] have already made the [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic shows]] [[VileVillainSaccharineShow impressively dark villains]] [[DarkerAndEdgier even worse]]. [[VillainEpisode Once the spotlight is on them]], we find more reason to be afraid…

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[[folder:# 1 King Sombra]]
* The Umbrum, once they’re revealed, make this a borderline CosmicHorrorStory. Mysterious and powerful? Check. GoMadFromTheRevelation? Sombra does so upon learning his connection to them. BrokeYourArmPunchingOutCthulhu? Stopping them cost the Crystal Empire [[DoomedByCanon per canon]], Radiant Hope lost ''everything'' she cared about for her role in stopping them, and the actual Umbrum are still out there. [[spoiler:The ending shows that even the seemingly decisive defeat of Sombra on the show was but a delay for both Sombra and the Umbrum, and sets them up to return on unsuspecting ponykind.]]
* Child Sombra becoming cripplingly, agonizingly ill once a year, every year until he was a young adult, when it got so bad he ''exploded''! It’s all too easy to see why learning the reasons for this would [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds break him such]].
* Sombra’s [[TakenForGranite crystalizing Princess Amore]] in a fit of rage was bad enough, but his [[EvilFeelsGood increasing excitement to that he's]] [[MoralEventHorizon damned himself]], and that it’s freed him to lash out at those who wronged him. That's when we realize we are witnessing the moment the [[TheWoobie sympathetic individual with a horrible fate forced upon them]] transforming into a monster. By the time he ''[[LiterallyShatteredLives shatters Amore]]'', he's ''reveling'' in it.
-->'''Sombra''': I am not just any monster, Hope. I am King of the Monsters!
** This makes his appearance on the show scarier, since his comparatively animalistic behavior there implies ''[[UpToEleven he’s gotten even more insane]]'', his greater size implies ''he got more powerful then ever'', [[spoiler:and he’s about to return]].
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[[folder:# 5 Queen Chrysalis]]
* Chrysalis and the changelings were terrifying enough on the show. Their comic debut made them [[DarkerAndEdgier even worse]] and is the page image for VileVillainSaccharineShow. Their issue here is a ''CerebusRetcon'' to all that.
* Last we saw Chrysalis, her imprisonment was played for laughs. Here, she seems [[VillainousBSOD utterly broken]]'' by it. [[LimpAndLivid She looks terrible]], learning that Twilight Sparkle has become an alicorn princess has eroded her sanity, and she’s [[DespairEventHorizon pretty much succumb to despair]]. And they plan to keep her like this for the next ''1000 years'', the Mane 6 were shocked at her state.
** [[spoiler:The ''real'' Chrysalis manages to scarier then ever. While her insanity towards Twilight seems genuine, it has not diminished her threat ''at all''. She still had the intelligence to have a changeling impersonate her while she hid in the ceiling for who knows how long. Given that she won against Twilight after literally getting the drop on her (terrifying itself) there's reason to think she's more dangerous then ever.]]
* The reveal that they have [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld existed at least 1000 years prior]]. While enough major villains existed back then to warrant a LampshadeHanging, [[SealedEvilInACan unlike them]], the changelings seem to have been active during most of that time, meaning they potentially have more atrocities under their belt then any other villain in the series. That they were still so effective as to come off as an OutsideContextVillain in their debut…
* We finally get a good look at what the changelings [[EmotionEater do to their victims]]. The emaciated state, their left in, plus that in at least one case, they never fully recovered, puts it up their with Tirek’s ManaDrain in horror, and there’s ''an entire army that can do that''.
* They make ''[[BigGood Celestia]]'' this, proving the best example in the franchise that [[GoodIsNotSoft her benevolence won’t save you if you’re bad enough]]. SHE is the reason the changelings have their ragged, hole-filled appearance. The best Twilight Sparkle (with her powers boosted) could do left them with AmusingInjuries, Celesita left [[ScarsAreForever damage so permanent]] it apparently passed on to future generations. Scary enough that the changelings [[PayEvilUntoEvil did enough to deserve it]], [[BewareTheNiceOnes but damn]].
* The changelings origins, they were spawned of a mutated carnivorous tree from flies and pony skeletons, if not ''corpes''! They're more AlwaysChaoticEvil then ever now that they have elements of ZombieApocalypse in their nature. This achieves the non-insignificant feet of being darker then any fan theories. Those with weak constitutions may be grateful UnreliableNarrator may be in effect.
** Pictured: Chrysalis' "birth". ''A Canterlot Wedding'' had her claim she wanted to conquer "[[EnfantTerrible since I was small]]". While it's shown to be MetaphoricallyTrue, that image alone surpasses expectations for how true it is.
[[spoiler:By breaking out, Chrysalis has pulled of the first straight example of TheBadGuyWins "in the franchise". Every other time they had this level of success, they were still defeated at the end of the episode/two-parter/comic arc. Even those who avoided significant consequences at least had their EvilPlan thwarted or delayed. Here, she scores a straight up win that it will take at least in till the next story to reverse. By that score, Chrysalis is now the most effective villain in the series. And she is out there…]] Sweet dreams.
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