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* This is the CentralTheme indicated in the trailer for the second season of ''Series/CobraKai.'' Miyagi-Do Karate, run by Daniel at his sensei's old home, serves as a counterbalance to Johnny's dojo. The EscalatingWar eventually turns into a full-scale fight-to-the-finish bloodbath between their respective students.

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* This is the CentralTheme indicated in the trailer for the second season of ''Series/CobraKai.'' Miyagi-Do Karate, run by Daniel at his sensei's old home, serves as a counterbalance to Johnny's Cobra Kai dojo. The EscalatingWar eventually turns into a full-scale fight-to-the-finish bloodbath between their respective students.



** Even inside the Brazilian jiu-jitsu side and the very Gracie family there were important dojo wars. Hélio and Carlson Gracie's schools were rivals due to their different approaches to grappling, while another branch of BJJ led by Oswaldo Fadda was against the Gracie doctrine overall.

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** Even inside * Within the Gracie clan of Brazilian jiu-jitsu side and the very Gracie family there were important dojo wars. schools, Hélio and Carlson Gracie's schools were rivals due to their different approaches to grappling, while another branch of BJJ led by Oswaldo Fadda was against the Gracie doctrine overall.

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* Turned drastically UpToEleven in ''Franchise/StarWars'' where the Jedi and the Sith teach opposing philosophical approaches to similar martial and magical skill, and have been at each others' throats for twenty-five thousand years.

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* Turned drastically UpToEleven in ''Franchise/StarWars'' where ''Franchise/StarWars'': The original trilogy establishes the Light and Dark sides of the force, mastered by Yoda and Darth Sidious, respectively. The Jedi and the Sith teach opposing philosophical approaches to similar martial and magical skill, and have been at each others' throats for twenty-five thousand years.



* Inverted by ''Film/BestOfTheBest'', where the two schools are both honorable and have similar philosophies.




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* ''Film/FistOfLegend'' has the local kung fu school as rivals of the karate dojo of the occupying Japanese. The Chinese are the heroes and the Japanese are the villains, though the most powerful Japanese master is unaffiliated with the local dojo and stands neutral in the feud.

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* ''Manga/KenichiTheMightiestDisciple'' has the Ryonzanpaku Dojo vs. the criminal organization YAMI. They both are run by superhuman martial artists (that have CharlesAtlasSuperpower to the point they are "PhysicalGod"-level badasses), and they re both (in a way) ArrogantKungFuGuy-types (only the former is the "CondescendingCompassion because they are the only ones that can fight other Masters" type vs. ''actual'' '''murderous''' arrogance), and their conflict essentially boils down to "ThouShaltNotKill and use martial arts to protect people vs. martial arts should be used to kill people and lord over them".

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* ''Manga/KenichiTheMightiestDisciple'' has the Ryonzanpaku Ryozanpaku Dojo vs. the criminal organization YAMI. They both are run by superhuman martial artists (that have CharlesAtlasSuperpower to the point they are "PhysicalGod"-level badasses), and they re both (in a way) ArrogantKungFuGuy-types (only the former is the "CondescendingCompassion because they are the only ones that can fight other Masters" type vs. ''actual'' '''murderous''' arrogance), and their conflict essentially boils down to "ThouShaltNotKill and use martial arts to protect people vs. martial arts should be used to kill people and lord over them".
** On the ''dojoyaburi'' subset, Ryozanpaku gets challenged once in a while... And has a number of specific rules designed to ''extort the challengers'', and once they win they force them to get cured at the clinics of two of their members for an outrageous fee. In Ryozanpaku's defense, they're ''very'' poor and extorting challengers is one of their main ways to fund themselves... And the cures they provide are actually worth more than the challengers are forced to pay (Kenzei and especially Akisame are ''that'' good).
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* Supported by Miyagi Dojo vs Cobra Kai in ''Film/TheKarateKid1984'' and ''Film/TheKarateKidPartIII''. The rivalry gets revived years later in ''Series/CobraKai'', when Johnny Lawrence revives the titular dojo and [[spoiler:Daniel in-turn revives the Miyagi-do]].

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* Supported by Miyagi Dojo vs Cobra Kai in ''Film/TheKarateKid1984'' and ''Film/TheKarateKidPartIII''. The rivalry gets revived years later in ''Series/CobraKai'', when Johnny Lawrence revives the titular dojo and [[spoiler:Daniel Daniel in-turn revives the Miyagi-do]].Miyagi-do. Sadly, [[spoiler: RealityEnsues, and by the end of season 2 the heady mixture of resentment, petty feuds, vandalism and one-upmanship explodes into an outright war, leaving multiple students from both dojos injured, permanently disabled and in one case possibly dead.]]
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* This is the CentralTheme indicated in the trailer for the second season of ''Series/CobraKai.'' Miyagi-Do Karate, run by Daniel at his sensei's old home, serves as a counterbalance to Johnny's dojo.

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* This is the CentralTheme indicated in the trailer for the second season of ''Series/CobraKai.'' Miyagi-Do Karate, run by Daniel at his sensei's old home, serves as a counterbalance to Johnny's dojo.
dojo. The EscalatingWar eventually turns into a full-scale fight-to-the-finish bloodbath between their respective students.
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* In Brazil, the Brazilian jiu-jitsu and luta livre schools were bitter enemies, as they featured opposite combat philosophies and taught different social demographies (BJJ was the martial art of the high class and Brazilian elite, while LL dojos were cheaper and friendlier to lower classes and poor people). Eventually Brazilian jiu-jitsu side, led by the ubiquitous Gracie family, got the upper hand and expanded internationally via the UltimateFightingChampionship, while luta livre became a shadow of itself and almost faded out.

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* In Brazil, the Brazilian jiu-jitsu UsefulNotes/BrazilianJiuJitsu and luta livre schools were bitter enemies, as they featured opposite combat philosophies and taught different social demographies (BJJ was the martial art of the high class and Brazilian elite, while LL dojos were cheaper and friendlier to lower classes and poor people). Eventually Brazilian jiu-jitsu side, led by the ubiquitous Gracie family, got the upper hand and expanded internationally via the UltimateFightingChampionship, UsefulNotes/UltimateFightingChampionship, while luta livre became a shadow of itself and almost faded out.
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* This is the CentralTheme indicated in the trailer for the second season of ''Series/CobraKai.'' Miyagi-Do Karate, run by Daniel at his sensei's old home, serves as a counterbalance to Johnny's dojo.
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* ''Film/NinjaAcademy''. Oddly enough, one of the students at the {{Hero}} ninja academy is a mime.

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* ''Film/NinjaAcademy''. Oddly enough, one of the students at the {{Hero}} Hero ninja academy is a mime.
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Most often, but not always, the two masters were students of the same martial arts style before branching off to [[OpposingCombatPhilosophies different styles]]: the protagonist usually (but not always) learning under [[TheMentor the benevolent master]] who [[PacifistDojo teaches wisdom and self defense]], while the rival school is run by an EvilMentor who encourages its students to be [[ThugDojo ruthless, aggressive and brutal]]. A tough SenseiForScoundrels who takes the [[Combatpragmatist pragmatic middle-of-the-road approach]] could substitute for either of them.

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Most often, but not always, the two masters were students of the same martial arts style before branching off to [[OpposingCombatPhilosophies different styles]]: the protagonist usually (but not always) learning under [[TheMentor the benevolent master]] who [[PacifistDojo teaches wisdom and self defense]], while the rival school is run by an EvilMentor who encourages its students to be [[ThugDojo ruthless, aggressive and brutal]]. A tough SenseiForScoundrels who takes the [[Combatpragmatist [[CombatPragmatist pragmatic middle-of-the-road approach]] could substitute for either of them.
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Most often, but not always, the two masters were students of the same martial arts style before branching off to [[OpposingCombatPhilosophies different styles]]: the protagonist usually (but not always) learning under [[TheMentor the benevolent master]] who [[PacifistDojo teaches wisdom and self defense]], while the rival school is run by an EvilMentor who encourages its students to be [[ThugDojo ruthless, aggressive and brutal]], or by a tough SenseiForScoundrels who takes the pragmatic middle-of-the-road approach.

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Most often, but not always, the two masters were students of the same martial arts style before branching off to [[OpposingCombatPhilosophies different styles]]: the protagonist usually (but not always) learning under [[TheMentor the benevolent master]] who [[PacifistDojo teaches wisdom and self defense]], while the rival school is run by an EvilMentor who encourages its students to be [[ThugDojo ruthless, aggressive and brutal]], or by a brutal]]. A tough SenseiForScoundrels who takes the [[Combatpragmatist pragmatic middle-of-the-road approach.
approach]] could substitute for either of them.
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Most often, but not always, the two masters were students of the same martial arts style before branching off to [[OpposingCombatPhilosophies different styles]]: the protagonist usually (but not always) learning under [[TheMentor the benevolent master]] who [[PacifistDojo teaches wisdom and self defense]], while the rival school is run by an EvilMentor and encourages its students to be [[ThugDojo ruthless, aggressive and brutal]].

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Most often, but not always, the two masters were students of the same martial arts style before branching off to [[OpposingCombatPhilosophies different styles]]: the protagonist usually (but not always) learning under [[TheMentor the benevolent master]] who [[PacifistDojo teaches wisdom and self defense]], while the rival school is run by an EvilMentor and who encourages its students to be [[ThugDojo ruthless, aggressive and brutal]].
brutal]], or by a tough SenseiForScoundrels who takes the pragmatic middle-of-the-road approach.
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* ''Manga/HistorysStrongestDiscipleKenichi'' has the Ryonzampaku Dojo vs. the criminal organization YAMI. They both are run by superhuman martial artists (that have CharlesAtlasSuperpower to the point they are "PhysicalGod"-level badasses), and they re both (in a way) ArrogantKungFuGuy-types (only the former is the "CondescendingCompassion because they are the only ones that can fight other Masters" type vs. ''actual'' arrogance), and their conflict essentially boils down to "ThouShaltNotKill and use martial arts to protect people vs. martial arts should be used to ''kill'' people and lord over them".

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* ''Manga/HistorysStrongestDiscipleKenichi'' ''Manga/KenichiTheMightiestDisciple'' has the Ryonzampaku Ryonzanpaku Dojo vs. the criminal organization YAMI. They both are run by superhuman martial artists (that have CharlesAtlasSuperpower to the point they are "PhysicalGod"-level badasses), and they re both (in a way) ArrogantKungFuGuy-types (only the former is the "CondescendingCompassion because they are the only ones that can fight other Masters" type vs. ''actual'' '''murderous''' arrogance), and their conflict essentially boils down to "ThouShaltNotKill and use martial arts to protect people vs. martial arts should be used to ''kill'' kill people and lord over them".
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* ''Manga/HistorysStrongestDiscipleKenishi'' has the Ryonzampaku Dojo vs. the criminal organization YAMI. They both are run by superhuman martial artists (that have CharlesAtlasSuperpower to the point they are "PhysicalGod"-level badasses), and they re both (in a way) ArrogantKungFuGuy-types (only the former is the "CondescendingCompassion because they are the only ones that can fight other Masters" type vs. ''actual'' arrogance), and their conflict essentially boils down to "ThouShaltNotKill and use martial arts to protect people vs. martial arts should be used to ''kill'' people and lord over them".

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* ''Manga/HistorysStrongestDiscipleKenishi'' ''Manga/HistorysStrongestDiscipleKenichi'' has the Ryonzampaku Dojo vs. the criminal organization YAMI. They both are run by superhuman martial artists (that have CharlesAtlasSuperpower to the point they are "PhysicalGod"-level badasses), and they re both (in a way) ArrogantKungFuGuy-types (only the former is the "CondescendingCompassion because they are the only ones that can fight other Masters" type vs. ''actual'' arrogance), and their conflict essentially boils down to "ThouShaltNotKill and use martial arts to protect people vs. martial arts should be used to ''kill'' people and lord over them".
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* ''Manga/HistorysStrongestDiscipleKenishi'' has the Ryonzampaku Dojo vs. the criminal organization YAMI. They both are run by superhuman martial artists (that have CharlesAtlasSuperpower to the point they are "PhysicalGod"-level badasses), and they re both (in a way) ArrogantKungFuGuy-types (only the former is the "CondescendingCompassion because they are the only ones that can fight other Masters" type vs. ''actual'' arrogance), and their conflict essentially boils down to "ThouShaltNotKill and use martial arts to protect people vs. martial arts should be used to ''kill'' people and lord over them".

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* Supported by Miyagi Dojo vs Kobra Kai in ''Film/TheKarateKid1984'' and ''Film/TheKarateKidPartIII''.

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* Supported by Miyagi Dojo vs Kobra Cobra Kai in ''Film/TheKarateKid1984'' and ''Film/TheKarateKidPartIII''.''Film/TheKarateKidPartIII''. The rivalry gets revived years later in ''Series/CobraKai'', when Johnny Lawrence revives the titular dojo and [[spoiler:Daniel in-turn revives the Miyagi-do]].
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Most often, but not always, the two masters were students of the same martial arts style before branching off to different styles: the protagonist usually (but not always) learning under [[TheMentor the benevolent master]] who [[PacifistDojo teaches wisdom and self defense]], while the rival school is run by an EvilMentor and encourages its students to be [[ThugDojo ruthless, aggressive and brutal]].

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Most often, but not always, the two masters were students of the same martial arts style before branching off to [[OpposingCombatPhilosophies different styles: styles]]: the protagonist usually (but not always) learning under [[TheMentor the benevolent master]] who [[PacifistDojo teaches wisdom and self defense]], while the rival school is run by an EvilMentor and encourages its students to be [[ThugDojo ruthless, aggressive and brutal]].
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Most often, but not always, the two masters were students of the same martial arts style before branching off to different styles: the protagonist usually (but not always) learning under the benevolent master who [[PacifistDojo teaches wisdom and self defense]], while the rival school is run by an EvilMentor and encourages its students to be [[ThugDojo ruthless, aggressive and brutal]].

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Most often, but not always, the two masters were students of the same martial arts style before branching off to different styles: the protagonist usually (but not always) learning under [[TheMentor the benevolent master master]] who [[PacifistDojo teaches wisdom and self defense]], while the rival school is run by an EvilMentor and encourages its students to be [[ThugDojo ruthless, aggressive and brutal]].
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* ''PokemonRedAndBlue'': The current official Gym in Saffron City is dedicated to the Psychic-type under Sabrina. Immediately next door is the Fighting-type dojo, which used to be the sanctioned Gym until Sabrina and her followers crushed it, though they still devote themselves to the practice. And then ''the Player'' comes along and sacks the Fighting-dojo ''a second time'', forcing the Karate King to beg him not to take their emblem, instead offering up one of their prize Pokemon.

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* ''PokemonRedAndBlue'': ''VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue'': The current official Gym in Saffron City is dedicated to the Psychic-type under Sabrina. Immediately next door is the Fighting-type dojo, which used to be the sanctioned Gym until Sabrina and her followers crushed it, though they still devote themselves to the practice. And then ''the Player'' comes along and sacks the Fighting-dojo ''a second time'', forcing the Karate King to beg him not to take their emblem, instead offering up one of their prize Pokemon.
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* ''PokemonRedAndBlue'': The current official Gym in Saffron City is dedicated to the Psychic-type under Sabrina. Immediately next door is the Fighting-type dojo, which used to be the sanctioned Gym until Sabrina and her followers crushed it, though they still devote themselves to the practice. And then ''the Player'' comes along and sacks the Fighting-dojo ''a second time'', forcing the Karate King to beg him not to take their emblem, instead offering up one of their prize Pokemon.
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* Being the quintessential FightingSeries (at least in Manga), ''Manga/DragonBall'' of course has this, with Goku learning the Turtle Style from Master Roshi, while his rival Crane Hermit's teaches his students styles of brutal assassination. Goku fights two members of the Crane School, Crane's brother Tao and his star pupil, Tien. Tien defeats Goku the first time, but, in a rare occurrence for this trope, his HeelFaceTurn begins even before Goku eventually bests him.
** The two styles get revived after the events of ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' in ''VideoGame/DragonBallOnline'', though the rivalry is more [[FriendlyRival friendly]] in nature since they're headed by Krillin and Tien Shinhan. There's still a schism between their philosophies, inspired by what each took away from their time fighting alongside [[TheHero Goku]]: the New Turtle School is all about [[SupportPartyMember playing support]], while the New Crane School focuses on performing powerful, decisive [[KiManipulation ki]] attacks.
* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' did an episode about a pair of rival gyms.

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* Being the quintessential FightingSeries (at least in Manga), ''Manga/DragonBall'' of course has this, with Goku learning the Turtle Style from Master the Muten Roshi, while his rival Crane Hermit's teaches his students styles of brutal assassination. Goku fights two members of the Crane School, Crane's the Crane Hermit's brother Tao Pai Pai and his star pupil, Tien. Tien Tenshinhan. Tenshinhan defeats Goku the first time, but, in a rare occurrence for this trope, his HeelFaceTurn begins even before Goku eventually bests him.
** The two styles get revived after the events of ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' in ''VideoGame/DragonBallOnline'', though the rivalry is more [[FriendlyRival friendly]] in nature since they're headed by Krillin Kuririn/Krillin and Tien Shinhan.Tenshinhan. There's still a schism between their philosophies, inspired by what each took away from their time fighting alongside [[TheHero Goku]]: the New Turtle School is all about [[SupportPartyMember playing support]], while the New Crane School focuses on performing powerful, decisive [[KiManipulation ki]] attacks.
* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' did an episode about a pair of rival gyms.Gyms. Each of them tried to be official Gyms, but in the end, neither of them were worthy enough to be declared as an official Gym.
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** Almost the entirety of ''Series/JukenSentaiGekiranger'' is about the battles between the heroic [=GekiJuken=] Beast Arts school and the evil [=RinJuken=] Akugata school.

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** Almost the entirety of ''Series/JukenSentaiGekiranger'' is about the battles between the heroic [=GekiJuken=] Beast Arts school and the evil [=RinJuken=] Akugata school.
school. [[spoiler:They wind up joining forces to defeat the Long and his [=GenJuken=] school after Rio discovers he and the rest of the [=RinJuken=] Akugata have been manipulated by Long.]]
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* Bobby Wasabi's (whose local sensei is an AdultChild BigBrotherMentor) and the [[ThugDojo Black Dragons]] (a Cobra Kai {{Expy}}) in ''KickinIt''.

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* Bobby Wasabi's (whose local sensei is an AdultChild BigBrotherMentor) and the [[ThugDojo Black Dragons]] (a Cobra Kai {{Expy}}) in ''KickinIt''.''Series/KickinIt''.
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A pair of rival schools of martial arts, run by a pair of masters who have probably been at it for years before the series even started. If ''dojo'' is applied to non-Japanese martial arts, its use is an example of the FarEast trope.

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A pair of rival schools of martial arts, run by a pair of masters who have probably been at it feuding for years before the series even started. If ''dojo'' is applied to non-Japanese martial arts, its use is an example of the FarEast trope.
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* So common was this in Japan that Kyokushin karate founder Mas Oyama was GenreSavvy enough to keep [[BatterUp baseball bats]] on his dojo in case of a dojoyaburi.

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* So common was this in Japan that Kyokushin karate founder Mas Oyama was GenreSavvy enough to keep kept [[BatterUp baseball bats]] on his dojo in case of a dojoyaburi.
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Most often, but not always, the two masters were students of the same martial arts style before branching off to different styles: the protagonist usually (but not always) learning under the benevolent master who [[PacifistDojo teaches wisdom and self defense]], while the rival school is run by an EvilMentor and is [[ThugDojo characteristically ruthless, aggressive and brutal]].

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Most often, but not always, the two masters were students of the same martial arts style before branching off to different styles: the protagonist usually (but not always) learning under the benevolent master who [[PacifistDojo teaches wisdom and self defense]], while the rival school is run by an EvilMentor and is encourages its students to be [[ThugDojo characteristically ruthless, aggressive and brutal]].
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* As they draw significant influence from UsefulNotes/EuropeanSwordsmanship, (see RealLife below) the Literature/ElsabethSoesten books have this come up quite often. In ''Bait And Switch'' Elsabeth and Husson nearly get into a duel over the superiority of their respective masters.




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* Comes up throughout the history of UsefulNotes/EuropeanSwordsmanship as well. The rivalry between the Brotherhood of St. Mark and Federfechter in particular stands out, as the former held a monopoly on instruction in the Holy Roman Empire, which the latter infringed upon.
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A subset of this trope comes in the form of members of one school (or even an [[ArrogantKungFuGuy unaffiliated challenger looking to show his prowess]]) going to the other dojo and challenging the sensei or top student to a match, usually as an excuse to then completely ransack the dojo, maim everyone inside, and steal a memento of their victory (typically the dojo's marquee). This kind of act, whose exact term is ''dojoyaburi'' (道場破り, "dojo storming"), is TruthInTelevision, and there are stories about brutal dojo wars in historic Japan and more recently in the [[UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts Brazilian vale tudo]] scene

Very often comes up in FightingSeries. This situation often involves or ends with the main students from both schools eventually becoming friends or at least allies, usually after [[DefeatMeansFriendship one of them defeats the other,]] effectively ending the feud, or turning it into a [[FriendlyEnemy friendly rivalry]] (if it wasn't already) instead.

See also FeudingFamilies.

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A subset of this trope comes in the form of members of one school (or even an [[ArrogantKungFuGuy unaffiliated challenger looking to show his prowess]]) going to the other dojo and challenging the sensei or top student to a match, usually as an excuse to then completely ransack the dojo, maim everyone inside, and steal a memento of their victory (typically the dojo's marquee). This kind of act, whose exact term is ''dojoyaburi'' (道場破り, "dojo storming"), is TruthInTelevision, and there are stories about brutal dojo wars in historic Japan and more recently in the [[UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts Brazilian vale tudo]] scene

scene.

Very often comes up in FightingSeries. This situation often involves or ends with the main students from both schools eventually becoming friends or at least allies, usually allies (usually after [[DefeatMeansFriendship one of them defeats the other,]] other),]] effectively ending the feud, or turning it into a [[FriendlyEnemy friendly rivalry]] (if it wasn't already) instead.

See also FeudingFamilies.FeudingFamilies and FireForgedFriends.
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* Supported by Miyagi Dojo vs Kobra Kai in ''TheKarateKid 1'' and ''3''.

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* Supported by Miyagi Dojo vs Kobra Kai in ''TheKarateKid 1'' ''Film/TheKarateKid1984'' and ''3''.''Film/TheKarateKidPartIII''.



* ''Ninja Academy''. Oddly enough, one of the students at the {{Hero}} ninja academy is a mime.

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