History Main / LogicalExtreme

* SubvertedCatchphrase: A OnceAnEpisode CatchPhrase isn't able to be said at all.

* CastOfSnowflakes: A large cast of characters given intricate and distinct tropes that separate each one of them, sometimes doubling as DoingItForTheArt. Well-known examples include ''Franchise/TouhouProject'' and ''{{Anime/Monster}}''.

* NoEnding: "The Jewels of Nabooti" of the [[{{Gamebooks}} Choose Your Own Adventure]] series, in which there were a series of choices that made an infinite loop.

->''"The critics deplore that in the three Kafka novels many intermediate chapters are missing, but recognizes that those chapters are not essential. I have for me that [[DramaticallyMissingThePoint this complaint indicates an essential ignorance of Kafka's art]]. The path of these "unfinished" novels is born specifically of TheInfinite number of obstacles that stop and return to stop their identical heroes.'' Franz Kafka [[NoEnding does not finish them]], because [[CentralTheme the main thing was that they]] [[TheInfinite were endless]]. ''Do you remember the first and clearest of Zeno's paradoxes? The movement is impossible, because before reaching B we must cross the intermediate point C, but before reaching C, we must cross the intermediate point D, but before reaching D ... ''The Greek does not list all the points; Franz Kafka does not have to list all the vicissitudes. It is enough to understand that they are infinite like Hell".

* CastOfSnowflakes: A large cast of characters given intricate and distinct tropes that separate each one of them, sometimes doubling as DoingItForTheArt. Well-known examples include ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' and ''{{Anime/Monster}}''.

** The “One Big Lie” subtrope of soft science fiction has another logical extreme, in the Literature/{{Orthogonal}} trilogy by Creator/GregEgan. The setting has precisely one physical law changed from the real world, in the smallest way possible (a single minus sign in an equation becomes a plus sign) but even though all other laws of physics are the same as our world, this causes ''everything'' on the macroscopic level to be so different as to be unrecognizable.

** The Gunlance in the ''VideoGame/MonsterHunter'' series essentially fires blanks that do explosion damage not much farther than the tip of the weapon. As of Monster Hunter Rise, it's viable to make a whole playstyle of using the gun shells only for propelling yourself around the battlefield, and doing all of your actual damage by smacking monsters with the side of the weapon.
* SkillScoresAndPerks: Go crazy and add anything you can find. ''Videogame/PathOfExile'' is both famous and notorious for having what is essentially a '''''[[http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMB skill forest]]'''''.

** In TableTopGame/DungeonsAndDragons, Vlaakith CLVII is the Lich-Queen of the Githyanki. Being undead, she has no need for a successor. It's mentioned in at least one sourcebook that if Vlaakith is killed, the githyanki will be thrown into chaos.

* BandOfRelatives: ''Everyone'' in the band is related. Far from rare. Even if you narrow it to everyone in the band being ''immediate family'' (that is, parents and siblings), you have [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cowsills The Cowsills]] (mother and children), Music/TheShaggs (all sisters), Music/TheJacksonFive (all siblings), Music/TheWhiteStripes (husband and wife), Music/{{Hanson}} (all brothers), The Band Perry (sister and two brothers), Music/TheProclaimers (''identical twin'' brothers)...

* UnexpectedSuccessor: When the very ''need'' for a successor is unexpected.
** UsefulNotes/WilliamHenryHarrison taught the United States the hard way that a President ''can'' expire before his term does.

*** According to some sources, the Sassanid Empire managed to turn the Logical Extreme further up with an ''in utero'' coronation; [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shapur_II King Shapur II]] is the only monarch known to be crowned ''before he was born'' (the crown was placed on his mother's belly). Other sources say she was ordered to wear the crown around her loins so her child would be born into it.

* BreakingTheFourthWall: NoFourthWall

Compare DeconstructedTrope, where tropes are played realistically and sometimes by straining them in the logical extreme. See also ExaggeratedTrope, which is the "''Il''logical Extreme", and the Wiki/TVTropes section of LiteralMetaphor.

*** According to some sources, the Sassanid Empire managed to turn the Logical Extreme UpToEleven with an ''in utero'' coronation; [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shapur_II King Shapur II]] is the only monarch known to be crowned ''before he was born'' (the crown was placed on his mother's belly). Other sources say she was ordered to wear the crown around her loins so her child would be born into it.

* ADayInTheLimelight: The main character [[AbsenteeActor disappears for the episode]] in order to keep the focus on a more minor one.

* CastOfSnowflakes: LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters given intricate and distinct tropes that separate each one of them, sometimes doubling as DoingItForTheArt. Well-known examples include ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' and ''{{Anime/Monster}}''.

* BandOfRelatives: ''Everyone'' in the band is related. Far from rare. Even if you narrow it to everyone in the band being ''immediate family'' (that is, parents and siblings), you have [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cowsills The Cowsills]] (mother and children), Music/TheShaggs (all sisters), Music/TheJacksonFive (all siblings), Music/TheWhiteStripes (husband and wife), Music/{{Hanson}} (all brothers), The Band Perry (sister and two brothers)...

Note that sometimes a trope can have more than one Logical Extreme that fit the trope in different ways. For example, the Logical Extremes of ReclusiveArtist include artists who no one knows who they are, artists who no one knows ''where'' they are, and artists whom no one knows whether they're alive or dead. In other cases, two distinct tropes can have the same logical extreme: for instance, ScienceFantasy serves as the logical extreme for both [[MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness soft science fiction]] and SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic.

* ScienceFantasy: Most [[MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness soft science fiction]] makes liberal use of AppliedPhlebotinum which simply makes no sense from a scientific perspective, and may as well be magical. When an explanation ''is'' given, expect it to contradict physical laws because the writer either doesn't know as much about science as they think, or are [[{{MST3K Mantra}} disregarding it for the sake of a better story]]. Science Fantasy is therefore when a work actually admits this. Depending on how you look at it, it is also the Logical Extreme to MagicAIsMagicA and SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic, as "classical" fantasy stories are inspired by mythology, and therefore never give any explanation for why the magic works the way it does. Again, in Science Fantasy, the setting is inspired by science instead.

* BackseatDriver: Someone who's ''supposed'' to be the passenger tries to literally drive the car by grabbing for the controls (usually the steering wheel). TruthInTelevision, and there ''are'' legal repercussions for doing this, namely [[spoiler:he "passenger" would be fully responsible for whatever they cause the vehicle to do]].

Note that sometimes a trope can have more than one Logical Extreme that fit the trope in different ways. For example, the Logical Extremes of ReclusiveArtist include artists who no one knows who they are, artists who no one knows ''where'' they are, and artists whom no one knows whether they're alive or dead. In other cases, two distinct tropes can have the same logical extreme: for instance, ScienceFantasy serves as the logical extreme for both soft science fiction and SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic.

Note that sometimes a trope can have more than one Logical Extreme that fit the trope in different ways. For example, the Logical Extremes of ReclusiveArtist include artists who no one knows who they are, artists who no one knows ''where'' they are, and artists whom no one knows whether they're alive or dead.

*** The most recent example is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfonso_XIII_of_Spain King Alfonso XIII of Spain]], the [[SomeoneToRememberHimBy posthumous son of Alfonso XII]]. There were even debates about backdating Alfonso XIII's reign to the date of his father's death, rather than the date of his birth. He was actually ''crowned'' King when he turned 16.

* BackseatDriver: Someone who's ''supposed'' to be the passenger tries to literally drive the car by grabbing for the controls (usually the steering wheel). TruthInTelevision, and there ''are'' legal repercussions for doing this[[labelnote:Namely]]The "passenger" would be fully responsible for whatever they cause the vehicle to do.[[/labelnote]]

** Creator/JorgeLuisBorges" wrote on ''Foreword to "The Metamorphosis" by Creator/FranzKafka'' about the NoEnding in Kafka's novels "Amerika", "The Castle" and "The Trial",

* ADayInTheLimelight: The main character [[AbsenteeActor disappears for the episode]] in order to keep the focus on a more minor one.