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->''"You never tell me anything, so how the hell should I know what might be important?"''

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->''"You never tell me anything, '''anything''', so how the hell '''hell''' should I know what might be important?"''
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* In ''Webcomic/{{SSDD}}'', Michael is part of a group trying to prevent [[AIIsACrapshoot The Oracle]] from gaining control, and is the only person who is not from the BadFuture in which it has attained power. Two problems. First, he's the group's ButtMonkey, so nobody else tells him anything, which means he has no idea what the Oracle is, never mind that it exists. Second, he's the group's ButtMonkey, so nobody listens to him, which means while he knows that British Intelligence created something called the Echelon Plug-in (he was given a copy of it), nobody knows what ''it'' is, never mind that it exists. [[spoiler:When they ''finally'' tell Michael what the Oracle is, Michael makes a comparison of the two programs and the others realize that the Oracle and Echelon Plug-in are ''one and the same''. In other words, the Oracle already exists in Michael's time, which explains a ''lot''.]]

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* In ''Webcomic/{{SSDD}}'', Michael is part the only member of a group trying to prevent [[AIIsACrapshoot The Oracle]] from gaining control, and is the only person control who is not from the BadFuture in which it has attained power. done so. He also knows that British Intelligence created something called the Echelon Plug-in (he was given a copy of it). Two problems. First, he's the group's ButtMonkey, so nobody else tells him anything, which means he has no idea what the Oracle is, never mind that it exists. Second, he's the group's ButtMonkey, so nobody listens to him, which means while he nobody else knows that British Intelligence created something called the what The Echelon Plug-in (he was given a copy of it), nobody knows what ''it'' is, never mind that it exists. [[spoiler:When they ''finally'' tell Michael what the Oracle is, about Oracle, Michael makes a comparison of the two programs and the others realize that the Oracle and Echelon Plug-in are ''one and the same''. In other words, the Oracle already exists in Michael's time, which explains a ''lot''.]]
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* In ''Webcomic/{{SSDD}}'', Michael knows that British Intelligence created something called the Echelon Plug-in; he was given a copy of it. Unfortunately, Michael is generally treated like a ButtMonkey and has been so locked out of the loop that he doesn't know what the Oracle is or that it even exists. Of the group trying to prevent the Oracle from gaining control, Michael is the only person who is not from the future, but nobody else listens to him, so they don't know about the existence of the Echelon Plug-in. [[spoiler:When they ''finally'' tell Michael what the Oracle is, Michael makes a comparison of the two programs and the others realize that the Oracle and Echelon Plug-in are ''one and the same''. In other words, the Oracle already exists in Michael's time, which explains a ''lot''.]]

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* In ''Webcomic/{{SSDD}}'', Michael is part of a group trying to prevent [[AIIsACrapshoot The Oracle]] from gaining control, and is the only person who is not from the BadFuture in which it has attained power. Two problems. First, he's the group's ButtMonkey, so nobody else tells him anything, which means he has no idea what the Oracle is, never mind that it exists. Second, he's the group's ButtMonkey, so nobody listens to him, which means while he knows that British Intelligence created something called the Echelon Plug-in; he Plug-in (he was given a copy of it. Unfortunately, Michael is generally treated like a ButtMonkey and has been so locked out of the loop that he doesn't know it), nobody knows what the Oracle is or ''it'' is, never mind that it even exists. Of the group trying to prevent the Oracle from gaining control, Michael is the only person who is not from the future, but nobody else listens to him, so they don't know about the existence of the Echelon Plug-in.exists. [[spoiler:When they ''finally'' tell Michael what the Oracle is, Michael makes a comparison of the two programs and the others realize that the Oracle and Echelon Plug-in are ''one and the same''. In other words, the Oracle already exists in Michael's time, which explains a ''lot''.]]
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->''"This information would have been useful'' ''''''a few years ago!'''''

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->''"This information would have been useful'' ''''''a '''''a few years ago!'''''

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->''"This information would have been useful'' ''''''a few years ago!'''''



-->-- '''Michael''', ''Webcomic/{{SSDD}}''

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-->-- '''Michael''', '''Sticks and Michael''', ''Webcomic/{{SSDD}}''
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* In ''Webcomic/{{Galaxion}}'' Patty gets bitten by an alien bug. The team worries a bit, but soon lets it go in favour of more pressing concerns, but the fever she develops after a while is actually plot-important. (And how!)
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* In the DanteValentine series, Danny is forever begging Japhrimel to tell her things. He doesn't until it comes up in battle. When Danny asks why he didn't tell her sooner, he shrugs it off answering, "I did not want to trouble you with something so trivial." He abuses this excuse to the point Dante is often ready to scream.

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* In the DanteValentine ''Literature/DanteValentine'' series, Danny is forever begging Japhrimel to tell her things. He doesn't until it comes up in battle. When Danny asks why he didn't tell her sooner, he shrugs it off answering, "I did not want to trouble you with something so trivial." He abuses this excuse to the point Dante is often ready to scream.
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-> [[LockedOutOfTheLoop You never tell me anything]], so how the hell should I know what might be important?
-->-- '''Michael''', ''{{SSDD}}''

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-> [[LockedOutOfTheLoop You ->''"You never tell me anything]], anything, so how the hell should I know what might be important?
important?"''
-->-- '''Michael''', ''{{SSDD}}''
''Webcomic/{{SSDD}}''



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* In an episode of ''LawandOrderSpecialVictimsUnit''. Elliot is accused of murdering a suspect in custody when the man's spleen is found lacerated in an autopsy. When ME Warner, who performed the autopsy, goes to him to apologize for having to implicate him in the man's death, Elliot is horrified at his own actions and says he never meant for anyone to die; he tried to save the man. How? By performing CPR. Which Warner immediately realizes could have caused the injury, meaning his cause of death was something else. She didn't know he'd done it, and none of the people who had witnessed it realized it was relevant at all, let alone the difference between Elliot going free or being charged with murder.

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* In an episode of ''LawandOrderSpecialVictimsUnit''. ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit'', Elliot is accused of murdering a suspect in custody when the man's spleen is found lacerated in an autopsy. When ME Warner, who performed the autopsy, goes to him to apologize for having to implicate him in the man's death, Elliot is horrified at his own actions and says he never meant for anyone to die; he tried to save the man. How? By performing CPR. Which Warner immediately realizes could have caused the injury, meaning his cause of death was something else. She didn't know he'd done it, and none of the people who had witnessed it realized it was relevant at all, let alone the difference between Elliot going free or being charged with murder.



* In ''{{SSDD}}'', Michael knows that British Intelligence created something called the Echelon Plug-in; he was given a copy of it. Unfortunately, Michael is generally treated like a ButtMonkey and has been so locked out of the loop that he doesn't know what the Oracle is or that it even exists. Of the group trying to prevent the Oracle from gaining control, Michael is the only person who is not from the future, but nobody else listens to him, so they don't know about the existence of the Echelon Plug-in. [[spoiler:When they ''finally'' tell Michael what the Oracle is, Michael makes a comparison of the two programs and the others realize that the Oracle and Echelon Plug-in are ''one and the same''. In other words, the Oracle already exists in Michael's time, which explains a ''lot''.]]

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* In ''{{SSDD}}'', ''Webcomic/{{SSDD}}'', Michael knows that British Intelligence created something called the Echelon Plug-in; he was given a copy of it. Unfortunately, Michael is generally treated like a ButtMonkey and has been so locked out of the loop that he doesn't know what the Oracle is or that it even exists. Of the group trying to prevent the Oracle from gaining control, Michael is the only person who is not from the future, but nobody else listens to him, so they don't know about the existence of the Echelon Plug-in. [[spoiler:When they ''finally'' tell Michael what the Oracle is, Michael makes a comparison of the two programs and the others realize that the Oracle and Echelon Plug-in are ''one and the same''. In other words, the Oracle already exists in Michael's time, which explains a ''lot''.]]



--> ''"A lot of information about the origin of the Court has been lost or, in my opinion, deliberately hidden. If you have somehow come across information from that time, it could provide valuable insight. (...) However, such information is useless until properly investigated. When you feel you have uncovered the whole story, please, tell me about it."''

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--> ''"A -->''"A lot of information about the origin of the Court has been lost or, in my opinion, deliberately hidden. If you have somehow come across information from that time, it could provide valuable insight. (...) However, such information is useless until properly investigated. When you feel you have uncovered the whole story, please, tell me about it."''
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* In ''FanFic/SayItThice'', [[WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom Danny, Sam, and Tucker]] never think to mention to the new girl about the rumors concerning the Ghost With the Most and his missing "Mortal Bride." Likewise, [[Film/{{Beetlejuice}} Lydia]] never thinks to mention she was almost married to a ghost once. Without these minor details, no one can make the connection and realize they are dealing with the same entity. Of course, it makes sense that the topics wouldn't come up when talking to near-strangers.

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* In ''FanFic/SayItThice'', ''FanFic/SayItThrice'', [[WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom Danny, Sam, and Tucker]] never think to mention to the new girl about the rumors concerning the Ghost With the Most and his missing "Mortal Bride." Likewise, [[Film/{{Beetlejuice}} Lydia]] never thinks to mention she was almost married to a ghost once. Without these minor details, no one can make the connection and realize they are dealing with the same entity. Of course, it makes sense that the topics wouldn't come up when talking to near-strangers.
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* In ''FanFic/SayItThice'', [[WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom Danny, Sam, and Tucker]] never think to mention to the new girl about the rumors concerning the Ghost With the Most and his missing "Mortal Bride." Likewise, [[Film/{{Beetlejuice}} Lydia]] never thinks to mention she was almost married to a ghost once. Without these minor details, no one can make the connection and realize they are dealing with the same entity. Of course, it makes sense that the topics wouldn't come up when talking to near-strangers.
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* In ''ThePrincessBride,'' Inigo Montoya can be forgiven for not realising that a wheelbarrow might turn out to be of significance:
-->'''Westley:''' What are our liabilities?
-->'''Inigo:''' There is but one working castle gate, and... and it is guarded by 60 men.
-->'''Westley:''' And our assets?
-->'''Inigo:''' Your brains, Fezzik's strength, my steel.
-->'''Westley:''' I mean, if we only had a wheelbarrow, that would be something.
-->'''Inigo:''' Where did we put that wheelbarrow the albino had?
-->'''Fezzik:''' Over the albino, I think.
-->'''Westley:''' Well, why didn't you list that among our assets in the first place?

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* In ''ThePrincessBride,'' ''Film/ThePrincessBride'', Inigo Montoya can be forgiven for not realising that a wheelbarrow might turn out to be of significance:
-->'''Westley:''' What are our liabilities?
-->'''Inigo:'''
liabilities?\\
'''Inigo:'''
There is but one working castle gate, and... and it is guarded by 60 men.
-->'''Westley:'''
men.\\
'''Westley:'''
And our assets?
-->'''Inigo:'''
assets?\\
'''Inigo:'''
Your brains, Fezzik's strength, my steel.
-->'''Westley:'''
steel.\\
'''Westley:'''
I mean, if we only had a wheelbarrow, that would be something.
-->'''Inigo:'''
something.\\
'''Inigo:'''
Where did we put that wheelbarrow the albino had?
-->'''Fezzik:'''
had?\\
'''Fezzik:'''
Over the albino, I think.
-->'''Westley:'''
think.\\
'''Westley:'''
Well, why didn't you list that among our assets in the first place?
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* In ''ThePrincessBride,'' Inigo Montoya can be forgiven for not realising that a wheelbarrow might turn out to be of significance:
-->'''Westley:''' What are our liabilities?
-->'''Inigo:''' There is but one working castle gate, and... and it is guarded by 60 men.
-->'''Westley:''' And our assets?
-->'''Inigo:''' Your brains, Fezzik's strength, my steel.
-->'''Westley:''' I mean, if we only had a wheelbarrow, that would be something.
-->'''Inigo:''' Where did we put that wheelbarrow the albino had?
-->'''Fezzik:''' Over the albino, I think.
-->'''Westley:''' Well, why didn't you list that among our assets in the first place?
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-> [[LockedOutOfTheLoop You never tell me ''anything'']], so how the hell should I know what might be important?

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-> [[LockedOutOfTheLoop You never tell me ''anything'']], anything]], so how the hell should I know what might be important?
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-> [[LockedOutOfTheLoop You never tell me ]]''[[LockedOutOfTheLoop anything]]'', so how the hell should I know what might be important?

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-> [[LockedOutOfTheLoop You never tell me ]]''[[LockedOutOfTheLoop anything]]'', ''anything'']], so how the hell should I know what might be important?

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* Many a school shooting could be averted if not for this. Often times there's tons of evidence that person is going to do this but its knowledge is scattered in bits and pieces throughout the community. This why sociologists suggest residences of communities keep lines of communication open even if risking embarrassment or being seen as a gossip spreader.
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* This trope is pulled in spades in the ''AceAttorney'' series, infuriating the player character to no end. Witnesses will sometimes not bother to tell the player a vital piece of information or give some important evidence that could help clear their name or solve the case because they feel the item/information has no bearings on the current situation.

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* This trope is pulled in spades in the ''AceAttorney'' ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series, infuriating the player character to no end. Witnesses will sometimes not bother to tell the player a vital piece of information or give some important evidence that could help clear their name or solve the case because they feel the item/information has no bearings on the current situation.
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* In an episode of ''LawandOrderSpecialVictimsUnit''. Elliot is accused of murdering a suspect in custody when the man's spleen is found lacerated in an autopsy. When ME Warner, who performed the autopsy, goes to him to apologize for having to implicate him in the man's death, Elliot is horrified at his own actions and says he never meant for anyone to die; he tried to save the man. How? By performing CPR. Which Warner immediately realizes could have caused the injury, meaning his cause of death was something else. However, no one else had the medical knowledge to know that, which was why no one mentioned it.

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* In an episode of ''LawandOrderSpecialVictimsUnit''. Elliot is accused of murdering a suspect in custody when the man's spleen is found lacerated in an autopsy. When ME Warner, who performed the autopsy, goes to him to apologize for having to implicate him in the man's death, Elliot is horrified at his own actions and says he never meant for anyone to die; he tried to save the man. How? By performing CPR. Which Warner immediately realizes could have caused the injury, meaning his cause of death was something else. However, no one else had the medical knowledge to She didn't know that, which he'd done it, and none of the people who had witnessed it realized it was why no one mentioned it.relevant at all, let alone the difference between Elliot going free or being charged with murder.
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The revelation of the fact may bring about WhyDidntYouJustSaySo, with "It seemed trivial" (or some variant thereof) being the answer.
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This is when someone knows a fact that would be of great importance to the heroes but never says anything, for the simple reason that that person has ''no idea'' the fact is important. A subtrope of PoorCommunicationKills, and definately overlaps with LockedOutOfTheLoop.

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This is when someone knows a fact that would be of great importance to the heroes but never says anything, for the simple reason that that person has ''no idea'' the fact is important. A subtrope of PoorCommunicationKills, and definately definitely overlaps with LockedOutOfTheLoop.
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* In an episode of ''LawandOrderSpecialVictimsUnit''. Elliot is accused of murdering a suspect in custody when the man's spleen is found lacerated in an autopsy. When ME Warner, who performed the autopsy, goes to him to apologize for having to implicate him in the man's death, Elliot is horrified at his own actions and says he never meant for anyone to die; he tried to save the man. How? By performing CPR. Which Warner immediately realizes could have caused the injury, meaning his cause of death was something else. However, no one else had the medical knowledge to know that, which was why no one mentioned it.
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-> You never tell me ''anything'', so how the hell should I know what might be important?

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-> [[LockedOutOfTheLoop You never tell me ''anything'', ]]''[[LockedOutOfTheLoop anything]]'', so how the hell should I know what might be important?



This is when someone knows a fact that would be of great importance to the heroes but never says anything, for the simple reason that that person has ''no idea'' the fact is important. A subtrope of PoorCommunicationKills.

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This is when someone knows a fact that would be of great importance to the heroes but never says anything, for the simple reason that that person has ''no idea'' the fact is important. A subtrope of PoorCommunicationKills.
PoorCommunicationKills, and definately overlaps with LockedOutOfTheLoop.
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* In ''TalesOfTheAbyss'', Jade deduced almost immediately that [[spoiler:the "Luke" he was traveling with was actually a replica of the real Luke.]] Jade didn't tell because doing so would have resulted in [[spoiler:massive amounts of existential angst on replica!Luke's part]] with no apparent beneficial trade-off. In hindsight, that wasn't the best decision. Revealing the truth would have stopped the BigBad's manipulations, even if Jade wasn't aware of them.

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* In ''TalesOfTheAbyss'', ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss'', Jade deduced almost immediately that [[spoiler:the "Luke" he was traveling with was actually a replica of the real Luke.]] Jade didn't tell because doing so would have resulted in [[spoiler:massive amounts of existential angst on replica!Luke's part]] with no apparent beneficial trade-off. In hindsight, that wasn't the best decision. Revealing the truth would have stopped the BigBad's manipulations, even if Jade wasn't aware of them.
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* In ''TalesOfVesperia'', Judith knew the truth about the blastia and how they were affecting the planet. Did she share any of this information? No. And when Rita and the others asks, "why didn't you say anything?" Judith's response (as seen during one of the private scenes between her and Rita) amounts to, "it didn't seem important at the time."

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* In ''TalesOfVesperia'', ''VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia'', Judith knew the truth about the blastia and how they were affecting the planet. Did she share any of this information? No. And when Rita and the others asks, "why didn't you say anything?" Judith's response (as seen during one of the private scenes between her and Rita) amounts to, "it didn't seem important at the time."
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* Antimony Carver, from ''GunnerkriggCourt''. At the point of Chapter 33, she had enough information about [[spoiler:Jeanne, one of the Court's founders]], whose information was [[{{Unperson}} deliberately hidden or destroyed]]. This is even lampshaded at some point in Chapter 23 by Jones:

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* Antimony Carver, from ''GunnerkriggCourt''.''Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt''. At the point of Chapter 33, she had enough information about [[spoiler:Jeanne, one of the Court's founders]], whose information was [[{{Unperson}} deliberately hidden or destroyed]]. This is even lampshaded at some point in Chapter 23 by Jones:
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** Luke does this later on in the last third of the game when he neglects to tell the rest of the party [[spoiler: the local Deity had contacted him, warning him that the BigBad had captured it]]. This one can be chalked up to simple ignorance, as Luke had no idea what the message meant.
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* In ''TalesOfTheAbyss'', Jade deduced almost immediately that [[spoiler:the "Luke" he was traveling with was actually a replica of the real Luke.]] Jade didn't tell because doing so would have resulted in [[spoiler:massive amounts of existential angst on replica!Luke's part]] with no apparent beneficial trade-off. In hindsight, that wasn't the best decision. Revealing the truth would have stopped the BigBad's manipulations, even if Jade wasn't aware of them.
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* It seems like in ''{{House}}'' every other episode or so features this -- the key turns out to be something that the patient would have gladly divulged (especially as an alternative to the humiliating but irrelevant parts of his life that they unearth while looking for the clue), but couldn't see that it would possibly be relevant.
* The ''{{Columbo}}'' episode called "Lady In Waiting" has a wealthy woman kill her brother and make it look like she accidentally mistook him for a burglar after he tripped the alarm system. Her fiancé came to the house unexpectedly as her setup was unfolding. Only later did he realize (with Columbo's help) that [[spoiler:he heard the three fatal shots first, '''then''' heard the alarm sound]].

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* It seems like in ''{{House}}'' ''Series/{{House}}'' every other episode or so features this -- the key turns out to be something that the patient would have gladly divulged (especially as an alternative to the humiliating but irrelevant parts of his life that they unearth while looking for the clue), but couldn't see that it would possibly be relevant.
* The ''{{Columbo}}'' ''Series/{{Columbo}}'' episode called "Lady In Waiting" has a wealthy woman kill her brother and make it look like she accidentally mistook him for a burglar after he tripped the alarm system. Her fiancé came to the house unexpectedly as her setup was unfolding. Only later did he realize (with Columbo's help) that [[spoiler:he heard the three fatal shots first, '''then''' heard the alarm sound]].
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* Many a school shooting could be averted if not for this. Often times there's tons of evidence that person is going to do this but its knowledge is scattered in bits and pieces throughout the community. This why sociologists suggest residences of communities keep lines of communication open even if risking embarrassment or being seen as a gossip spreader.
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* In ''{{SSDD}}'', Michael knows that British Intelligence created something called the Echelon Plug-in; he was given a copy of it. Unfortunately, Michael is generally treated like a ButtMonkey and has been so locked out of the loop that he doesn't know what the Oracle is or that it even exists. Of the group trying to prevent the Oracle from gaining control, Michael is the only person who is not from the future, but nobody else listens to him, so they don't know about the existence of the Echelon Plug-in. [[spoiler:Only when they ''finally'' tell Michael what the Oracle is do they learn about the Echelon Plug-in; Michael makes a comparison of the two programs and the others realize that the Oracle and Echelon Plug-in are one and the same. In other words, the Oracle already exists in Michael's time, which explains a ''lot''.]]

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* In ''{{SSDD}}'', Michael knows that British Intelligence created something called the Echelon Plug-in; he was given a copy of it. Unfortunately, Michael is generally treated like a ButtMonkey and has been so locked out of the loop that he doesn't know what the Oracle is or that it even exists. Of the group trying to prevent the Oracle from gaining control, Michael is the only person who is not from the future, but nobody else listens to him, so they don't know about the existence of the Echelon Plug-in. [[spoiler:Only when [[spoiler:When they ''finally'' tell Michael what the Oracle is do they learn about the Echelon Plug-in; is, Michael makes a comparison of the two programs and the others realize that the Oracle and Echelon Plug-in are one ''one and the same.same''. In other words, the Oracle already exists in Michael's time, which explains a ''lot''.]]
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** A particularly notable example is when Miles Edgeworth [[NotSoStoic completely loses his composure]] in ''[[OOCIsSeriousBusiness the middle of court]]'' over a playing card that Adrian Andrews has been absentmindedly toying with. She is genuinely confused when he demands to know where she got it and why she didn't tell anyone about it. [[spoiler:Turns out it's the calling card of an infamous assassin, which dramatically changes the case]].

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