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* Carol's relatives descended from the same source, Peggy and Steve, all seem to have some unusual level of [[SuperSoldier enhanced]] badassery. Except, seemingly, her mother. Jack O'Neill managed to become a Brigadier General entirely on merit at an unusually young age and has demonstrated a bit of super-strength while [[BerserkButton thoroughly pissed]] at General Ross for suggesting that they experiment on Carol. Sharon Carter managed to kick the ass of Baron Zemo's possibly enhanced protégé with relative ease, fighting on even footing despite his being considerably larger, possibly more experienced, and the fight being in close quarters. And Carol had hints of it even before the incident with the GeniusLoci. This suggests that the abilities aren't entirely dormant and only require a relatively small kick in the genetic pants to activate.

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* Carol's relatives descended from the same source, Peggy and Steve, all seem to have some unusual level of [[SuperSoldier enhanced]] badassery. Except, seemingly, her mother. Jack O'Neill managed to become a Brigadier General entirely on merit at an unusually young age and has demonstrated a bit of super-strength while [[BerserkButton [[PapaWolf thoroughly pissed]] at General Ross for suggesting that they experiment on Carol. Sharon Carter managed to kick the ass of Baron Zemo's possibly enhanced protégé with relative ease, fighting on even footing despite his being considerably larger, possibly more experienced, and the fight being in close quarters. And Carol had hints of it even before the incident with the GeniusLoci. This suggests that the abilities aren't entirely dormant and only require a relatively small kick in the genetic pants to activate.



* Wanda is shown to be not so different from her father in many ways: their temper, [[PhysicalGod power levels]], awesome feats, and resultant FamedInStory status, fierce protectiveness of their family, etc. However, a more subtle one is their respective entrances: After having been talked up as a LivingLegend of fearsome power, both Wanda and Magneto pull a BigDamnHeroes moment in the middle of an epic battle against otherwordly forces (featuring many of the same combatants both times), [[BigEntrance appearing in the sky with otherworldly light playing around them as a side-effect of their powers]] and turning the tide for the weary heroes, absolutely ''annihilating'' the enemy.

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* Wanda is shown to be not so different from her father in many ways: their temper, [[PhysicalGod power levels]], awesome feats, feats and resultant FamedInStory status, fierce protectiveness of their family, etc. However, a more subtle one is their respective entrances: After having been talked up as a LivingLegend of fearsome power, both Wanda and Magneto pull a BigDamnHeroes moment in the middle of an epic battle against otherwordly forces (featuring many of the same combatants both times), [[BigEntrance appearing in the sky with otherworldly light playing around them as a side-effect of their powers]] and turning the tide for the weary heroes, absolutely ''annihilating'' the enemy.



* OOCIsSeriousBusiness : downplayed, as it's near the beginning of the first appearance (so before any solid expectations for ''in'' character), and it's directed at someone offscreen you don't see - but. But: one of the serious contenders for nicest and most zen person in the series, the [[AllLovingHero poster child]] for grace and patience, Jesus really-no-middle-name Christ, is (by comparisson) ''pissed'' - at the notion of other people possibly listening in on a private conversation (and at least thoroughly annoyed at being watched, too). However: not only is the privacy issue SeriousBusiness enough all by itself to be that (in or out of character), there are [[FridgeBrilliance several additional good reasons]] to take the prospect of this specific chat not staying private even more seriously:

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* OOCIsSeriousBusiness : OOCIsSeriousBusiness: downplayed, as it's near the beginning of the first appearance (so before any solid expectations for ''in'' character), and it's directed at someone offscreen you don't see - but. But: one of the serious contenders for nicest and most zen person in the series, the [[AllLovingHero poster child]] for grace and patience, Jesus really-no-middle-name Christ, is (by comparisson) comparison) ''pissed'' - at the notion of other people possibly listening in on a private conversation (and at least thoroughly annoyed at being watched, too). However: not only is the privacy issue SeriousBusiness enough all by itself to be that (in or out of character), there are [[FridgeBrilliance several additional good reasons]] to take the prospect of this specific chat not staying private even more seriously:
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** Carol is described as being YoungerThanSheLooks and very physically attractive to boot, looking about 20 at 14. The story explicitly touches on the downsides of this briefly, with a drunken DirtyOldMan grabbing her ass. While the guy gets put in his place after BullyingADragon in the form of [[ComicBook/BlackPanther T'Challa]], as in real life, Carol is probably harassed, cat-called and treated as a sex object who knows how many times a day by grown men, and probably has since she was 11 or 12, which has to be extremely traumatic. She's also got a StayInTheKitchen dad, a mother who's implied to be of the ExtremeDoormat variety (though there's later [[HiddenDepths revealed to be more to her]]), and her only close family is her CoolUncle Jack O'Neill and cousin Sharon, both of whom are often busy with work. Furthermore, she's implied, until Harry, to have only two close friends - Lex Luthor, who's something of KnightTemplarBigBrother requiring her to be his MoralityChain, and Jean-Paul Beaubier, who's CampGay and hiding his mutation - and a few less close friends in the form of her soccer team. A few throwaway lines have implied that just about every boy that's tried to befriend her has been looking to get in her pants, prior to Harry, and being regarded as a ballbreaker and a challenge. No wonder she's a little spiky and abrasive at first. And the more abrasive she got, as noted briefly, the more she's likely to turn off any of the few who genuinely do want to just be friends.

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** Carol is described as being YoungerThanSheLooks and very physically attractive to boot, looking about 20 at 14. The story explicitly touches on the downsides of this briefly, with a drunken DirtyOldMan grabbing her ass. While the guy gets put in his place after BullyingADragon in the form of [[ComicBook/BlackPanther T'Challa]], as in real life, Carol is probably harassed, cat-called and treated as a sex object who knows how many times a day by grown men, and probably has since she was 11 or 12, which has to be extremely traumatic. She's also got a StayInTheKitchen dad, a mother who's implied to be of the ExtremeDoormat variety (though there's later [[HiddenDepths revealed to be more to her]]), and her only close family is her grandmother Alison, CoolUncle Jack O'Neill O'Neill, and cousin Sharon, both all of whom are often busy with work. Furthermore, she's implied, until Harry, to have only two close friends - Lex Luthor, who's something of KnightTemplarBigBrother requiring her to be his MoralityChain, and Jean-Paul Beaubier, who's CampGay and hiding his mutation - and a few less close friends in the form of her soccer team. A few throwaway lines have implied that just about every boy that's tried to befriend her has been looking to get in her pants, prior to Harry, and being regarded as a ballbreaker and a challenge. No wonder she's a little spiky and abrasive at first. And the more abrasive she got, as noted briefly, the more she's likely to turn off any of the few who genuinely do want to just be friends.
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** Implicitly confirmed by Strange in [=CoS=] chapter 80, when he lists it as [[ForWantOfANail one of the nails he scattered.]]

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** Implicitly confirmed by Strange in [=CoS=] chapter 80, when he lists it as [[ForWantOfANail one of the nails he scattered.]] scattered.
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** Carol is described as being YoungerThanSheLooks and very physically attractive to boot, looking about 20 at 14. The story explicitly touches on the downsides of this briefly, with a drunken DirtyOldMan grabbing her ass. While the guy gets put in his place after BullyingADragon in the form of [[ComicBook/BlackPanther T'Challa]], as in real life, Carol is probably harassed, cat called and treated as a sex object who knows how many times a day by grown men, and probably has since she was 11 or 12, which has to be extremely traumatic. She's also got a StayInTheKitchen dad, a mother who's implied to be of the ExtremeDoormat variety (though there's later [[HiddenDepths revealed to be more to her]]), and her only close family is her CoolUncle Jack O'Neill and cousin Sharon, both of whom are often busy with work. Furthermore, she's implied, until Harry, to have only two close friends - Lex Luthor, who's something of KnightTemplarBigBrother requiring her to be his MoralityChain and Jean-Paul Beaubier, who's CampGay and hiding his mutation - and a few less close friends in the form of her soccer team. A few throwaway lines have implied that just about every boy that's tried to befriend her has been looking to get in her pants, prior to Harry, and being regarded as a ballbreaker and a challenge. No wonder she's a little spiky and abrasive at first. And the more abrasive she got, as noted briefly, the more she's likely to turn off any of the few who genuinely do want to just be friends.

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** Carol is described as being YoungerThanSheLooks and very physically attractive to boot, looking about 20 at 14. The story explicitly touches on the downsides of this briefly, with a drunken DirtyOldMan grabbing her ass. While the guy gets put in his place after BullyingADragon in the form of [[ComicBook/BlackPanther T'Challa]], as in real life, Carol is probably harassed, cat called cat-called and treated as a sex object who knows how many times a day by grown men, and probably has since she was 11 or 12, which has to be extremely traumatic. She's also got a StayInTheKitchen dad, a mother who's implied to be of the ExtremeDoormat variety (though there's later [[HiddenDepths revealed to be more to her]]), and her only close family is her CoolUncle Jack O'Neill and cousin Sharon, both of whom are often busy with work. Furthermore, she's implied, until Harry, to have only two close friends - Lex Luthor, who's something of KnightTemplarBigBrother requiring her to be his MoralityChain MoralityChain, and Jean-Paul Beaubier, who's CampGay and hiding his mutation - and a few less close friends in the form of her soccer team. A few throwaway lines have implied that just about every boy that's tried to befriend her has been looking to get in her pants, prior to Harry, and being regarded as a ballbreaker and a challenge. No wonder she's a little spiky and abrasive at first. And the more abrasive she got, as noted briefly, the more she's likely to turn off any of the few who genuinely do want to just be friends.
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** Carol is described as being YoungerThanSheLooks and very physically attractive to boot, looking about 20 at 14. The story explicitly touches on the downsides of this briefly, with a drunken DirtyOldMan grabbing her ass. While the guy gets put in his place after BullyingADragon in the form of [[ComicBook/BlackPanther T'Challa]], as in real life, Carol is probably harassed, cat called and treated as a sex object who knows how many times a day by grown men, and probably has since she was 11 or 12, which has to be extremely traumatic. She's also got a StayInTheKitchen dad, a mother who's implied to be of the ExtremeDoormat variety and her only close family is her CoolUncle, Jack O'Neill and cousin Sharon, both of whom are often busy with work. Furthermore, she's implied, until Harry, to have only two close friends - Lex Luthor, who's something of KnightTemplarBigBrother requiring her to be his MoralityChain and Jean-Paul Beaubier, who's CampGay and hiding his mutation - and a few less close friends in the form of her soccer team. A few throwaway lines have implied that just about every boy that's tried to befriend her has been looking to get in her pants, prior to Harry, and being regarded as a ballbreaker and a challenge. No wonder she's a little spiky and abrasive at first. And the more abrasive she got, as noted briefly, the more she's likely to turn off any of the few who genuinely do want to just be friends.

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** Carol is described as being YoungerThanSheLooks and very physically attractive to boot, looking about 20 at 14. The story explicitly touches on the downsides of this briefly, with a drunken DirtyOldMan grabbing her ass. While the guy gets put in his place after BullyingADragon in the form of [[ComicBook/BlackPanther T'Challa]], as in real life, Carol is probably harassed, cat called and treated as a sex object who knows how many times a day by grown men, and probably has since she was 11 or 12, which has to be extremely traumatic. She's also got a StayInTheKitchen dad, a mother who's implied to be of the ExtremeDoormat variety (though there's later [[HiddenDepths revealed to be more to her]]), and her only close family is her CoolUncle, CoolUncle Jack O'Neill and cousin Sharon, both of whom are often busy with work. Furthermore, she's implied, until Harry, to have only two close friends - Lex Luthor, who's something of KnightTemplarBigBrother requiring her to be his MoralityChain and Jean-Paul Beaubier, who's CampGay and hiding his mutation - and a few less close friends in the form of her soccer team. A few throwaway lines have implied that just about every boy that's tried to befriend her has been looking to get in her pants, prior to Harry, and being regarded as a ballbreaker and a challenge. No wonder she's a little spiky and abrasive at first. And the more abrasive she got, as noted briefly, the more she's likely to turn off any of the few who genuinely do want to just be friends.
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*** And when she really excels, at sports, beating all the boys, including the entire football team in arm wrestling matches, their fathers lean on the school board to get her tested for steroids. That must be incredibly humiliating - she's doing something that she loves and no one believes that she can be that good simply because she's a girl.

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*** And when she really excels, excels at sports, beating all the boys, including the entire football team in arm wrestling matches, their fathers lean on the school board to get her tested for steroids. That must be incredibly humiliating - she's doing something that she loves and no one believes that she can be that good simply because she's a girl.
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** There's a lot of focus on Ginny and the psychic trauma she underwent thanks to Riddle, which Harry and Sean both independently refer to as mind rape. But what nobody addresses is that, about a year later, she got another heaping dose of psychic trauma from losing both her father, and a close friend of hers, ''on the same day.'' And on top of that, over the next six months or so, she has to struggle with accepting her sexuality, which would be a difficult enough process in an insular, unwelcoming society like the Wizarding World without all of her other scars. Oh, and there's no mention of her having any other close friends outside of Diana, her family, Harry, and Hermione either. Poor kid.
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* Throughout this story, Tony seems more compassionate and insightful than his MCU counterpart, whose kindness was often more deeply hidden under a barrage of snark and whose interpersonal skills could be...somewhat lacking, to put it kindly. But then it's revealed that here, Tony's godfather was ''Charles Xavier.''
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* Why does Harry adjust so much less quickly during the [[PlotRelevantAgeUp temporary age up]] in Chapters 59/60 than his fellows, being described as barely scratching the surface of his powers? As [[ViewersAreGeniuses one reviewer]] pointed out, he had so many more powers suddenly dropped on his head than the others did. Carol was just enhanced to SuperSoldier levels of physical ability, Uhtred just became bigger, stronger and tougher, Jean-Paul became [[SuperSpeed even faster]] and Diana's physical and empathic abilities were also jacked up. Harry, on the other hand, went from teenage SquishyWizard to fully fledged FlyingBrick in the blink of an eye, along with gaining vast [[LightEmUp Energy Manipulation]] abilities, seriously jacked up SuperSenses, potentially vast PsychicPowers... the reviewer in question compared it to Clark Kent going from pre ''{{Series/Smallville}}'' powers to full on [[ExplosiveOverclocking sun dipped]] levels. He adjusted so much more slowly because he had so much more to adjust to.
** Not only that, but Diana, Uhtred, and Jean-Paul are all used to their powers (Diana and Uhtred have had their powers since infancy, and for Jean-Paul it's been at least a few years), while Carol has always been a little above average anyway, and isn't getting anything new, per se, just being jacked up to the max of human potential. On the other hand, it's been only a few months since Harry's powers (other than magic) have begun to show, and less than six since TheReveal. He's still getting used to ''having'' all of those powers in the first place!
* Carol's relatives descended from the same source, Peggy and Steve, all seem to have some unusual level of [[SuperSoldier enhanced]] badassery. Except, seemingly, her mother. Jack O'Neill managed to become a Brigadier General entirely on merit at an unusually young age and has demonstrated a bit of super-strength while [[BerserkButton thoroughly pissed]] at General Ross for suggesting that they experiment on Carol. Sharon Carter managed to kick the ass of Baron Zemo's possibly enhanced protégé with relative ease, fighting on even footing despite his being considerably larger and the fight being in close quarters. And Carol had hints of it even before the incident with the GeniusLoci. This suggests that the abilities aren't entirely dormant and only require a relatively small kick in the genetic pants to activate.

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* Why does Harry adjust so much less quickly during the [[PlotRelevantAgeUp temporary age up]] in Chapters 59/60 than his fellows, being described as barely scratching the surface of his powers? As [[ViewersAreGeniuses one reviewer]] pointed out, he had so many more powers suddenly dropped on his head than the others did. Carol was just enhanced to SuperSoldier levels of physical ability, Uhtred similarly just became bigger, stronger and tougher, Jean-Paul became [[SuperSpeed even faster]] faster]], and Diana's physical and empathic abilities were also jacked up. Harry, on the other hand, went from teenage SquishyWizard to fully fledged FlyingBrick in the blink of an eye, along with gaining vast [[LightEmUp Energy Manipulation]] abilities, seriously jacked up SuperSenses, potentially vast PsychicPowers... the reviewer in question compared it to Clark Kent going from pre ''{{Series/Smallville}}'' powers to full on [[ExplosiveOverclocking sun dipped]] levels. He adjusted so much more slowly because he had so much more to adjust to.
** Not only that, but Diana, Uhtred, and Jean-Paul are all used to their powers (Diana and Uhtred have had their powers since infancy, and for Jean-Paul it's been at least a few years), while Carol has always been a little above average anyway, and like the others isn't getting anything new, per se, just being jacked up to the max of human potential. On the other hand, it's been only a few months since Harry's powers (other than magic) have begun to show, and less than six since TheReveal. He's still getting used to ''having'' all of those powers in the first place!
* Carol's relatives descended from the same source, Peggy and Steve, all seem to have some unusual level of [[SuperSoldier enhanced]] badassery. Except, seemingly, her mother. Jack O'Neill managed to become a Brigadier General entirely on merit at an unusually young age and has demonstrated a bit of super-strength while [[BerserkButton thoroughly pissed]] at General Ross for suggesting that they experiment on Carol. Sharon Carter managed to kick the ass of Baron Zemo's possibly enhanced protégé with relative ease, fighting on even footing despite his being considerably larger larger, possibly more experienced, and the fight being in close quarters. And Carol had hints of it even before the incident with the GeniusLoci. This suggests that the abilities aren't entirely dormant and only require a relatively small kick in the genetic pants to activate.



** Also, it does seem a little odd at first that Sirius and Lupin were chosen for the Shadow Initiative, given that everyone else on the Initiative has serious superpowers, decades of experience, or both, while both of them are out of practice. Surely SHIELD in particular would have at least a few combat mages. However, given that a) Fury isn't sure who he can trust after HYDRA revealed itself and b) that he used to work and fight alongside Sirius and Lupin during the bad old days, it makes a lot more sense why he would choose them.

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** Also, it does seem a little odd at first that Sirius and Lupin were chosen for the Shadow Initiative, given that everyone else on the Initiative has serious superpowers, decades of experience, or both, while both of them are out of practice. Surely SHIELD in particular would have at least a few combat mages. However, given that a) Fury isn't sure who he can trust after HYDRA revealed itself and b) that he used to work and fight alongside Sirius and Lupin during the bad old days, it makes a lot more sense why he would choose them. Particularly since there's no way that Sirius, having been locked up ever since his Order days and then brought to Asgard and the Avengers very soon after escaping, could possibly be a HYDRA agent, and Lupin is almost as unlikely.



* Dracula defeating Xavier in a telepathic duel can be explained by a couple of factors. Not only is there the matter of experience, but Xavier noted in the first book that the stronger a body one possesses, the more raw power one can put behind psychic abilities. Xavier is a fit, if disabled, human with the biology of someone in middle age, while Dracula is King of the Grey Court, with everything that entails.

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* Dracula defeating a Cerebro-amped Xavier in a telepathic duel can be explained by a couple of factors. Not only is there the matter of experience, but Xavier noted in the first book that the stronger a body one possesses, the more raw power one can put behind psychic abilities. Xavier is a fit, if disabled, human with the biology of someone in middle age, while Dracula is King of the Grey Court, with everything that entails.
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* There sure are a lot of {{Adaptational Badass}}es in this story. Sirius going from being a skilled duelist in canon to having the RedBaron of "The Marauder" and being picked for the Shadow Initiative, the Winter Soldier becoming TheDreaded for just about ''everyone'', Sean Cassidy being able to do far more with his MakeMeWannaShout powers and having BoxingLessonsForSuperman, etc. Makes a lot more sense when you consider that Strange is setting up Earth to go against Thanos, and all of the upheaval caused by Chthon and the resultant aftereffects, and presumably therefore wants every advantage he can get.

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* There sure are a lot of {{Adaptational Badass}}es in this story. Sirius going from being a skilled duelist in canon to having the RedBaron of "The Marauder" and being picked for the Shadow Initiative, the Winter Soldier becoming TheDreaded for just about ''everyone'', Sean Cassidy being able to do far more with his MakeMeWannaShout MakeSomeNoise powers and having BoxingLessonsForSuperman, etc. Makes a lot more sense when you consider that Strange is setting up Earth to go against Thanos, and all of the upheaval caused by Chthon and the resultant aftereffects, and presumably therefore wants every advantage he can get.
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Going into a bit of WMG there :)


** Fridge hillarious on the note of AffectionateParodies of real world religions and allusions to them in this vein is that a lot of people who've spoken to Jesus in person in the Christian accounts (and a lot of early followers as well) end up in a Roman era gladitorial arena - and so does Harry InUniverse, acting as a gladiator on Sakaar in ''The Phoenix and the Serpent'' (as a distraction). Nimbus should have brought a few lions (but maybe still will). Though given PlotArmor and Harry's powers, he'll very likely get out alive (how he'll get out of ''Sakaar'' if as the distraction he's the last to stay while his allies get everyone ''else'' out will be quite another matter).

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** Fridge hillarious hilarious on the note of AffectionateParodies of real world religions and allusions to them in this vein is that a lot of people who've spoken to Jesus in person in the Christian accounts (and a lot of early followers as well) end up in a Roman era gladitorial arena - and so does Harry InUniverse, acting as a gladiator on Sakaar in ''The Phoenix and the Serpent'' (as a distraction). Serpent''. Nimbus should have brought a few lions (but maybe still will). Though given PlotArmor and Harry's powers, he'll very likely get out alive (how he'll get out of ''Sakaar'' if as the distraction he's the last to stay while his allies get everyone ''else'' out will be quite another matter).lions.
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** Fridge hillarious on the note of AffectionateParodies of real world religions and allusions to them in this vein is that a lot of people who've spoken to Jesus in person (and a lot of early followers as well) end up in a Roman ear gladitorial arena - and so does Harry InUniverse, acting as a gladiator on Sakaar in ''The Phoenix and the Serpent'' (as a distraction). Nimbus should have brought a few lions (but maybe still will). Though given PlotArmor and Harry's powers, he'll very likely get out alive (how he'll get out of ''Sakaar'' if as the distraction he's the last to stay while his allies get everyone ''else'' out will be quite another matter).

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** Fridge hillarious on the note of AffectionateParodies of real world religions and allusions to them in this vein is that a lot of people who've spoken to Jesus in person in the Christian accounts (and a lot of early followers as well) end up in a Roman ear era gladitorial arena - and so does Harry InUniverse, acting as a gladiator on Sakaar in ''The Phoenix and the Serpent'' (as a distraction). Nimbus should have brought a few lions (but maybe still will). Though given PlotArmor and Harry's powers, he'll very likely get out alive (how he'll get out of ''Sakaar'' if as the distraction he's the last to stay while his allies get everyone ''else'' out will be quite another matter).
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** Fridge hillarious on the note of AffectionateParodies of real world religions and allusions to them in this vein is that a lot of people who've spoken to Jesus in person (and a lot of early followers as well) end up in a Roman ear gladitorial arena - and so does Harry InUniverse, acting as a gladiator on Sakaar in ''The Phoenix and the Serpent'' (as a distraction). Nimbus should have brought a few lions (but maybe still will). Though given PlotArmor and Harry's powers, he'll very likely get out alive (how he'll get out of ''Sakaar'' if as the distraction he's the last to stay while his allies get everyone ''else'' out will be quite another matter).
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* Speaking of whom: it's occasionally hinted in-series that Thor and Loki weren't necessarily a bad influence on him, rather it may have been the other way around. How an AllLovingHero would be a bad influence on Thor and especially [[TheTrickster Loki]] depends heavily on the definition of bad - but the page image for JewsLoveToArgue offers a possible explanation: ''Arguing With God - A Jewish Tradition''. Considering that for one thing his father is the god in question, who seems to be [[ReasoningWithGod quite okay]] with it (as long as the contributions argued are of value - the translation of the name of his people, "Israel", is "those who contend with God"); and for another that this attitude to authorities decidedly would ''not'' go down well with most of the Asgardian pantheon (especially given Bor in particular's likely reaction to anyone challenging him)... Well.

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* Speaking of whom: it's occasionally hinted in-series that Thor and Loki weren't necessarily a bad influence on him, rather it may have been the other way around. How an AllLovingHero would be a bad influence on Thor and especially [[TheTrickster Loki]] depends heavily on the definition of bad - but the page image for JewsLoveToArgue offers a possible explanation: ''Arguing With God - A Jewish Tradition''. Considering that for one thing his father is the god in question, question[[note]]According to another Christian interpretation they're even different personas of the ''same'' deity, and Jesus is GodInHumanForm.[[/note]], who seems to be [[ReasoningWithGod quite okay]] with it (as long as the contributions argued are of value - the translation of the name of his people, "Israel", is "those who contend with God"); and for another that this attitude to authorities decidedly would ''not'' go down well with most of the Asgardian pantheon (especially given Bor in particular's likely reaction to anyone challenging him)... Well.
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That is exactly the translation. :)


* Speaking of whom: it's occasionally hinted in-series that Thor and Loki weren't necessarily a bad influence on him, rather it may have been the other way around. How an AllLovingHero would be a bad influence on Thor and especially [[TheTrickster Loki]] depends heavily on the definition of bad - but the page image for JewsLoveToArgue offers a possible explanation: ''Arguing With God - A Jewish Tradition''. Considering that for one thing his father is the god in question, who seems to be [[ReasoningWithGod quite okay]] with it (as long as the contributions argued are of value - one translation of the name of his people, "Am Israel", is "those who argue with God"); and for another that this attitude to authorities decidedly would ''not'' go down well with most of the Asgardian pantheon (especially given Bor in particular's likely reaction to anyone challenging him)... Well.

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* Speaking of whom: it's occasionally hinted in-series that Thor and Loki weren't necessarily a bad influence on him, rather it may have been the other way around. How an AllLovingHero would be a bad influence on Thor and especially [[TheTrickster Loki]] depends heavily on the definition of bad - but the page image for JewsLoveToArgue offers a possible explanation: ''Arguing With God - A Jewish Tradition''. Considering that for one thing his father is the god in question, who seems to be [[ReasoningWithGod quite okay]] with it (as long as the contributions argued are of value - one the translation of the name of his people, "Am Israel", "Israel", is "those who argue contend with God"); and for another that this attitude to authorities decidedly would ''not'' go down well with most of the Asgardian pantheon (especially given Bor in particular's likely reaction to anyone challenging him)... Well.

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