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Multiple reboots, timelines, actors playing the iconic villain, and films outside the core continuity are just some of the factors that have split fans down the line on the ''Franchise/{{Halloween}}'' franchise for over 40 years.

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Multiple reboots, timelines, actors playing the iconic villain, and films outside the core continuity are just some of the factors that have split fans down the line on the ''Franchise/{{Halloween}}'' franchise for over 40 years. Jay Bauman of Red letter media fame amusingly referred to the franchise as a Choose Your Own Adventure series.
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Multiple reboots and timelines, actors playing the iconic villain and films outside the core continuity are just some of the factors that have split fans down the line on the ''Franchise/{{Halloween}}'' franchise for over 40 years.

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In a franchise that spans multiple timelines and alternate continuities, this was bound to happen

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In a Multiple reboots and timelines, actors playing the iconic villain and films outside the core continuity are just some of the factors that have split fans down the line on the ''Franchise/{{Halloween}}'' franchise that spans multiple timelines and alternate continuities, this was bound to happenfor over 40 years.



* There were no films after the [[Film/{{Halloween 1978}} first]] [[Film/HalloweenII1981 2]]. Helping that case is Creator/JohnCarpenter wrote it with the intent to kill Michael off completely.
** There were no films after the original, ''period''. It was only one movie. Probably helps that John Carpenter considers the original a stand alone, and the sequels to be an obligation if anything. II & 2018 may be exceptions as many fans agree they came close to replicating the atmosphere and tone of the original.
* ''[[Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch Season of the Witch]]'' was the only ''true'' sequel for many fans given [[WhatCouldHaveBeen the franchise was supposed to transition from slasher movies to an anthology series afterwords]].
** It also ''didn’t'' happen for many other fans because it’s [[OddballInTheSeries the only one to not have Michael Myers]].

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* There The first, and perhaps earliest, form of this fan schism appeared in the notion that there were no films after the [[Film/{{Halloween 1978}} first]] the original]]. ''Period''. This was bolstered after [[Film/HalloweenII1981 2]]. Helping the sequel]] took steps to change core parts of the mythology, namely TheReveal that case [[spoiler:Laurie Strode is Michael Myers' sister]], a twist that was put in by Creator/JohnCarpenter wrote (begrudgingly and [[MoneyDearBoy for a paycheck]], as he's told it with over the intent to kill Michael off completely.
** There were no films after
years), causing fan discontent in the original, ''period''. process. It was only one movie. Probably helps that John Carpenter considers the original a stand alone, and the sequels to be an obligation if anything. II & 2018 may be exceptions exceptions, as many some fans agree they came close to replicating the atmosphere and tone of the original.
* Conversely, there is a segment of the fanbase that claims that while were no films after the first two. Helping that case is that Creator/JohnCarpenter wrote it with the intent to kill Michael off completely.
* ''[[Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch Season of the Witch]]'' was the only ''true'' sequel for many fans given [[WhatCouldHaveBeen the franchise was supposed to transition from slasher movies to an anthology series afterwords]].
** It also ''didn’t'' happen for many other
afterwords]]. On the flipside, some fans disavow the film because it’s [[OddballInTheSeries the only one to not have Michael Myers]].
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Some people do like parts of Resurrection, even if they prefer to disregard parts of it like Laurie dying.


* Basically, the ''only'' thing fans of all the timelines have agreed on is that ''[[Film/HalloweenResurrection Resurrection]]'' never existed and should’ve never been made because of its [[AssPull terrible excuse of a retcon]] to arguably a perfect end with ''H20'' and for doing the most damaging things to the character’s legacy. [[note]] Michael at one point gets blinded by a handful of spices and even backs down, almost cowers even from Music/BustaRhymes after the former yells at him for imitating his costume and trying to ruin the show, and later he defeats Michael by shocking him in the balls. And that's not counting how it starts with Michael successfully killing Laurie - it's like having Luke Skywalker killed by Palpatine only for Music/VillagePeople to show up and save the galaxy.[[/note]] [[DisownedAdaptation Even Jamie Lee Curtis disowned it]] and went on to state she considers ''H20'' the ending of that continuity.

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* Basically, the ''only'' thing that the majority of fans of all the timelines have agreed on is that ''[[Film/HalloweenResurrection Resurrection]]'' never existed and should’ve never been made because of its [[AssPull terrible excuse of a retcon]] to arguably a perfect end with ''H20'' and for doing the most damaging things to the character’s legacy. [[note]] Michael at one point gets blinded by a handful of spices and even backs down, almost cowers even from Music/BustaRhymes after the former yells at him for imitating his costume and trying to ruin the show, and later he defeats Michael by shocking him in the balls. And that's not counting how it starts with Michael successfully killing Laurie - it's like having Luke Skywalker killed by Palpatine only for Music/VillagePeople to show up and save the galaxy.[[/note]] [[DisownedAdaptation Even Jamie Lee Curtis disowned it]] and went on to state she considers ''H20'' the ending of that continuity.
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** ''Film/Halloween4TheReturnOfMichaelMyers'' happened, but the other two Cult of Thorn movies didn't. This allows for the fourth movie to serve as the final installment of a trilogy with the first two movies. The fact that the fourth film doesn't feature The Man in Black or any of the other cultists, the number of {{Retcon}}s in the fifth and sixth films, and how hard it is to swallow how Michael survived his death at the end of the fourth film makes this easier to accept.

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** ''Film/Halloween4TheReturnOfMichaelMyers'' happened, happened (save perhaps the final scene), but the other two Cult of Thorn movies didn't. This allows for the fourth movie to serve as the final installment of a trilogy with the first two movies. The fact that the fourth film doesn't feature The Man in Black or any of the other cultists, the number of {{Retcon}}s in the fifth and sixth films, and how hard it is to swallow how Michael survived his death at the end of the fourth film makes this easier to accept.
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** ''Film/Halloween4TheReturnOfMichaelMyers'' happened, but the other two Cult of Thorn movies didn't. This allows for the fourth movie to serve as the final installment of a trilogy with the first two movies. The fact that it doesn't feature The Man in Black or any of the other cultists, and that it is hard to swallow how Michael survived his death at the end of the film makes this easier to accept.

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** ''Film/Halloween4TheReturnOfMichaelMyers'' happened, but the other two Cult of Thorn movies didn't. This allows for the fourth movie to serve as the final installment of a trilogy with the first two movies. The fact that it the fourth film doesn't feature The Man in Black or any of the other cultists, the number of {{Retcon}}s in the fifth and that sixth films, and how hard it is hard to swallow how Michael survived his death at the end of the fourth film makes this easier to accept.
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* Even people who actually like the Cult of Thorn Trilogy often won't accept [[spoiler:Rachel]]'s unceremonious stabbing, which drags down the rest of the fifth movie and is completely irrelevant to the overall story.
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* Some people who acknowledge ''Film/Halloween2018'' are reluctant to extend the same courtesy to ''Film/HalloweenKills'', given how it has well-liked characters come BackForTheDead and the previous movie works fine as a standalone movie with a BittersweetEnding.
* [[OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight Only the films with John Carpenter’s involvement]] exist, whether it’s directing, writing, or even composing ([[Film/Halloween1978 1978,]] [[Film/HalloweenII1981 II,]] [[Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch Season of the Witch,]] and [[Film/Halloween2018 2018]]). Though the contentious reception to ''Film/HalloweenKills'' is threatening to derail this.

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* Some people who acknowledge ''Film/Halloween2018'' are reluctant to extend the same courtesy to ''Film/HalloweenKills'', given how it has well-liked characters come BackForTheDead and the previous movie works fine as a standalone movie with a BittersweetEnding. \n It gets even worse with ''Film/HalloweenEnds'', which aside from the ending many people wanted ([[spoiler:Laurie killing Michael and sending the body into a metal shredder as ItsTheOnlyWayToBeSure]]) gave fuel for the arguments that the 2018 movie works better without follow-ups.
* [[OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight Only the films with John Carpenter’s involvement]] exist, whether it’s directing, writing, or even composing ([[Film/Halloween1978 1978,]] [[Film/HalloweenII1981 II,]] [[Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch Season of the Witch,]] and [[Film/Halloween2018 2018]]). Though the contentious reception to ''Film/HalloweenKills'' and ''Film/HalloweenEnds''. is threatening to derail this.
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** Subsequently the Theatrical Cut doesn’t exist for its removal of the cult elements in favor of a more sci-fi oriented one, jarring editing choices that leads to countless PlotHoles and FridgeLogic and for its mishandling of Dr. Loomis’ scenes (especially since the reshoots for this cut was after Donald Pleasance [[D passed away]]).

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** Subsequently the Theatrical Cut doesn’t exist for its removal of the cult elements in favor of a more sci-fi oriented one, jarring editing choices that leads to countless PlotHoles and FridgeLogic and for its mishandling of Dr. Loomis’ scenes (especially since the reshoots for this cut was after Donald Pleasance [[D [[DiedDuringProduction passed away]]).
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* Some people who acknowledge ''Film/Halloween2018'' are reluctant to extend the same courtesy to ''Film/HalloweenKills,'' given how it has well-liked characters come BackForTheDead and the previous movie works fine as a standalone movie with a BittersweetEnding.
* Only the films with John Carpenter’s involvement exist, whether it’s directing, writing, or even composing ([[Film/Halloween1978 1978,]] [[Film/HalloweenII1981 II,]] [[Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch Season of the Witch,]] and [[Film/Halloween2018 2018]]).
* Basically, the ''only'' thing fans of all the timelines have agreed on is that ''[[Film/HalloweenResurrection Resurrection]]'' never existed and should’ve never been made because of its [[AssPull terrible excuse of a retcon]] to arguably a perfect end with ''H20'' and for doing the most damaging things to the character’s legacy. [[note]] Michael at one point gets blinded by a handful of spices and even backs down, almost cowers even from Music/BustaRhymes after the former yells at him for imitating his costume and trying to ruin the show, and later he defeats Michael by shocking him in the balls. And that's not counting how it starts with Michael successfully killing Laurie - it's like having Luke Skywalker killed by Palpatine only for Music/VillagePeople to show up and save the galaxy.[[/note]] [[DisownedAdaptation Even Jamie Lee Curtis disowned it]] and went on to state she considers ''H20'' the ending.

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* Some people who acknowledge ''Film/Halloween2018'' are reluctant to extend the same courtesy to ''Film/HalloweenKills,'' ''Film/HalloweenKills'', given how it has well-liked characters come BackForTheDead and the previous movie works fine as a standalone movie with a BittersweetEnding.
* [[OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight Only the films with John Carpenter’s involvement involvement]] exist, whether it’s directing, writing, or even composing ([[Film/Halloween1978 1978,]] [[Film/HalloweenII1981 II,]] [[Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch Season of the Witch,]] and [[Film/Halloween2018 2018]]).
2018]]). Though the contentious reception to ''Film/HalloweenKills'' is threatening to derail this.
* Basically, the ''only'' thing fans of all the timelines have agreed on is that ''[[Film/HalloweenResurrection Resurrection]]'' never existed and should’ve never been made because of its [[AssPull terrible excuse of a retcon]] to arguably a perfect end with ''H20'' and for doing the most damaging things to the character’s legacy. [[note]] Michael at one point gets blinded by a handful of spices and even backs down, almost cowers even from Music/BustaRhymes after the former yells at him for imitating his costume and trying to ruin the show, and later he defeats Michael by shocking him in the balls. And that's not counting how it starts with Michael successfully killing Laurie - it's like having Luke Skywalker killed by Palpatine only for Music/VillagePeople to show up and save the galaxy.[[/note]] [[DisownedAdaptation Even Jamie Lee Curtis disowned it]] and went on to state she considers ''H20'' the ending.ending of that continuity.
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* Some people who acknowledge ''Film/Halloween2018'' are reluctant to extend the same courtesy to ''Film/HalloweenKills,'' given how it has well-liked characters come BackForTheDead and the previous movie works fine as a standalone movie with a BittersweetEnding.
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** Subsequently the Theatrical Cut doesn’t exist for its removal of the cult elements in favor of a more sci-fi oriented one, jarring editing choices that leads to countless PlotHoles and FridgeLogic and for its mishandling of Dr. Loomis’ scenes (especially since the reshoots for this cut was after Donald Pleasance [[AuthorExistenceFailure passed away]]).

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** Subsequently the Theatrical Cut doesn’t exist for its removal of the cult elements in favor of a more sci-fi oriented one, jarring editing choices that leads to countless PlotHoles and FridgeLogic and for its mishandling of Dr. Loomis’ scenes (especially since the reshoots for this cut was after Donald Pleasance [[AuthorExistenceFailure [[D passed away]]).
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* There were no films after the first 2. Helping that case is Creator/JohnCarpenter wrote it with the intent to kill Michael off completely.

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* There were no films after the first 2.[[Film/{{Halloween 1978}} first]] [[Film/HalloweenII1981 2]]. Helping that case is Creator/JohnCarpenter wrote it with the intent to kill Michael off completely.



* Basically, the ''only'' thing fans of all the timelines have agreed on is that ''[[Film/HalloweenResurrection Resurrection]]'' never existed and should’ve never been made because of its [[AssPull terrible excuse of a retcon]] to arguably a perfect end with ''H20'' and for doing the most damaging things to the character’s legacy. [[note]] Michael at one point gets blinded by a handful of spices and even backs down, almost cowers even from Busta Rhymes after the former yells at him for imitating his costume and trying to ruin the show, and later he defeats Michael by shocking him in the balls. [[/note]] [[DisownedAdaptation Even Jamie Lee Curtis disowned it]] and went on to state she considers ''H20'' the ending.

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* Basically, the ''only'' thing fans of all the timelines have agreed on is that ''[[Film/HalloweenResurrection Resurrection]]'' never existed and should’ve never been made because of its [[AssPull terrible excuse of a retcon]] to arguably a perfect end with ''H20'' and for doing the most damaging things to the character’s legacy. [[note]] Michael at one point gets blinded by a handful of spices and even backs down, almost cowers even from Busta Rhymes Music/BustaRhymes after the former yells at him for imitating his costume and trying to ruin the show, and later he defeats Michael by shocking him in the balls. And that's not counting how it starts with Michael successfully killing Laurie - it's like having Luke Skywalker killed by Palpatine only for Music/VillagePeople to show up and save the galaxy.[[/note]] [[DisownedAdaptation Even Jamie Lee Curtis disowned it]] and went on to state she considers ''H20'' the ending.
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* There were no films after the first 2. Helping that case is Creator/JohnCarpenter wrote it with the intent to kill Michael off completely.
** There were no films after the original, ''period''. It was only one movie. Probably helps that John Carpenter considers the original a stand alone, and the sequels to be an obligation if anything. II & 2018 may be exceptions as many fans agree they came close to replicating the atmosphere and tone of the original.
* ''[[Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch Season of the Witch]]'' was the only ''true'' sequel for many fans given [[WhatCouldHaveBeen the franchise was supposed to transition from slasher movies to an anthology series afterwords]].
** It also ''didn’t'' happen for many other fans because it’s [[OddballInTheSeries the only one to not have Michael Myers]].
* Only the [[Film/Halloween4TheReturnOfMichaelMyers Cult]] [[Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers of]] [[Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers Thorn]] timeline happened after the first 2 (or 3) films and ignore everything afterwords, with many claiming these films captured the atmosphere of the actual holiday of Halloween much better and for being the only timeline to feature fan favorite character Dr. Loomis.
** ''Film/Halloween4TheReturnOfMichaelMyers'' happened, but the other two Cult of Thorn movies didn't. This allows for the fourth movie to serve as the final installment of a trilogy with the first two movies. The fact that it doesn't feature The Man in Black or any of the other cultists, and that it is hard to swallow how Michael survived his death at the end of the film makes this easier to accept.
** Regarding [[Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers Halloween 6]]’s existence, many claim the Producer’s Cut didn’t happened due to the explanation of Michael’s murderous origins and its infamous plot twist [[spoiler:of Jamie’s baby being her and Michael’s]].
** Subsequently the Theatrical Cut doesn’t exist for its removal of the cult elements in favor of a more sci-fi oriented one, jarring editing choices that leads to countless PlotHoles and FridgeLogic and for its mishandling of Dr. Loomis’ scenes (especially since the reshoots for this cut was after Donald Pleasance [[AuthorExistenceFailure passed away]]).
* ''[[Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater H20]]'' was the only true follow up after ''Halloween II''. There was nothing else in between and it ended right there [[spoiler:with Laurie decapitating Michael for good.]]
** An Inversion for some. There's other fans who prefer merging the Thorn and H20 timelines together. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen There were plans to do so that didn't make it into the final cut]].
** The Chaos Comics miniseries tried to officially tie them together, but were omitted from canon ironically by the later release ''Resurrection''. A new line of comics were written taking ''Resurrection'' into account but no ties with the Thorn trilogy.
* There were no films ''before'' Music/RobZombie’s [[Film/Halloween2007 duo]][[Film/HalloweenII2009 logy]]. Some fans prefer Michael have a realistic origin behind his madness rather than being simply pure evil, or controlled by a mysterious cult.
** Rob Zombie's 2007 film happened but the events of its sequel didn't. This is helped by how there are two cuts of the first movie, a theatrical one and an unrated one, as well as an alternate ending, and the sequel could diverge from any of those versions.
* For many, ''Film/Halloween2018'' is the first "true" sequel to the original, not only capturing the tone and going back to the roots, but also because it discarded the idea of Michael and Laurie being siblings which some fans never really liked that much.
** Then again, H2018 "didn't happen" simply because they felt it was unnecessary since, once again, ''H20'' provided a better arc and ending for Laurie.
* Only the films with John Carpenter’s involvement exist, whether it’s directing, writing, or even composing ([[Film/Halloween1978 1978,]] [[Film/HalloweenII1981 II,]] [[Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch Season of the Witch,]] and [[Film/Halloween2018 2018]]).
* Basically, the ''only'' thing fans of all the timelines have agreed on is that ''[[Film/HalloweenResurrection Resurrection]]'' never existed and should’ve never been made because of its [[AssPull terrible excuse of a retcon]] to arguably a perfect end with ''H20'' and for doing the most damaging things to the character’s legacy. [[note]] Michael at one point gets blinded by a handful of spices and even backs down, almost cowers even from Busta Rhymes after the former yells at him for imitating his costume and trying to ruin the show, and later he defeats Michael by shocking him in the balls. [[/note]] [[DisownedAdaptation Even Jamie Lee Curtis disowned it]] and went on to state she considers ''H20'' the ending.

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