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** Motoyasu, Ren, and Itsuki believe that they are in a standard TrappedInAnotherWorld story where each of them are the protagonists and Bruce is basically the semi-useless tag-along side-character.

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** Motoyasu, Ren, and Itsuki believe that they are in a standard TrappedInAnotherWorld story where each of them are the protagonists and Bruce is basically the semi-useless tag-along side-character. Oh how wrong they were when the Hulk shows up...
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''...Or Is He Both?'' is a ''ComicBook/ImmortalHulk''/''LightNovel/TheRisingOfTheShieldHero'' CrossOver fanfic written by Creator/TheInfamousMan of ''FanFic/AmazingFantasy'' and ''FanFic/JustAnUnorthodoxThief'' fame. It can be read [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/or-is-he-both-the-rising-of-the-shield-hero-the-immortal-hulk.840944/#post-66393314 here]] on Website/SpaceBattles and [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13551789/1/Or-Is-He-Both here]] on Website/FanfictionDotNet.

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''...Or Is He Both?'' is a ''ComicBook/ImmortalHulk''/''LightNovel/TheRisingOfTheShieldHero'' ''ComicBook/ImmortalHulk''/''Literature/TheRisingOfTheShieldHero'' CrossOver fanfic written by Creator/TheInfamousMan of ''FanFic/AmazingFantasy'' and ''FanFic/JustAnUnorthodoxThief'' fame. It can be read [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/or-is-he-both-the-rising-of-the-shield-hero-the-immortal-hulk.840944/#post-66393314 here]] on Website/SpaceBattles and [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13551789/1/Or-Is-He-Both here]] on Website/FanfictionDotNet.
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** Myne/Malty is a lot nicer to Bruce and even calls him by his first name when asked. Though, this is thoroughly [[SubvertedTrope subverted]] later on when she plainly tells him her hatred of him before cruelly speeding along with his death.

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** Myne/Malty is a lot nicer to Bruce and even calls him by his first name when asked. Though, Though this is thoroughly [[SubvertedTrope subverted]] later on when she plainly tells him her hatred of him before cruelly speeding along with his death.

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* NewsTravelsFast: {{Averted}}. Bruce finds that the morning after the Hulk's rampage that the village he's residing in is just getting news of his death. Because there's no way to instantaneously update or check information like through telegrams or telephones, there's an information lag that relies wholly on the speed of messengers.



* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome:
** Because the world that Melromarc resides in is close to medieval times development-wise, there is no modern sewage system or toilets. Because of this, Bruce is forced to go to the bathroom in a chamber pot.
** Due to lacking the gaming knowledge necessary to grasp his Legendary Shield, Bruce's first mission against the low-level Balloons goes incredibly poorly.
** Rather than try to take the lead due to his experience, Bruce defers most of his decisions to Malty/Myne because she's supposedly more familiar with adventuring and unlike him can actually read the local language.
** While Bruce does pick up a children's book to learn the local language, learning a whole new language takes time and Bruce finds himself struggling with it during the hour he has reading it.
** Bruce finds that the morning after the Hulk's rampage that the village he's residing in is just getting news of his death. Because there's no way to instantaneously update or check information like through telegrams or telephones, there's an information lag that relies wholly on the speed of messengers.
** Due to the transformation into the Hulk shredding his clothes, Bruce is forced to steal them from local residences. He even admits that he's broken into a few houses for money and clothes out of desperation.
** Bruce ruminates that maps of the land are not widely available and are expensive, which he cannot get because he has no money. As such he needs to wholly rely on the Hulk for a sense of direction.
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[[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk Doctor Robert "Bruce" Banner]] was supposed to be dead. He had been several times. But he has come to the startling truth that the Hulk will not let him die. And with this new relationship, he's been summoned by the Kingdom of Melromarc to fight as the Shield Hero. But they may have summoned something worse. What is the Immortal Hulk? And what was brought from beyond the Green Door?

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[[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk [[ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk Doctor Robert "Bruce" Banner]] was supposed to be dead. He had been several times. But he has come to the startling truth that the Hulk will not let him die. And with this new relationship, he's been summoned by the Kingdom of Melromarc to fight as the Shield Hero. But they may have summoned something worse. What is the Immortal Hulk? And what was brought from beyond the Green Door?
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''...Or Is He Both?'' is a ''ComicBook/ImmortalHulk''/''LightNovel/TheRisingOfTheShieldHero'' CrossOver fanfic written by [[https://www.fanfiction.net/u/2328776/The-Infamous-Man The Infamous Man]] of ''FanFic/AmazingFantasy'' and ''FanFic/JustAnUnorthodoxThief'' fame. It can be read [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/or-is-he-both-the-rising-of-the-shield-hero-the-immortal-hulk.840944/#post-66393314 here]] on Website/SpaceBattles and [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13551789/1/Or-Is-He-Both here]] on Website/FanfictionDotNet.

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''...Or Is He Both?'' is a ''ComicBook/ImmortalHulk''/''LightNovel/TheRisingOfTheShieldHero'' CrossOver fanfic written by [[https://www.fanfiction.net/u/2328776/The-Infamous-Man The Infamous Man]] Creator/TheInfamousMan of ''FanFic/AmazingFantasy'' and ''FanFic/JustAnUnorthodoxThief'' fame. It can be read [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/or-is-he-both-the-rising-of-the-shield-hero-the-immortal-hulk.840944/#post-66393314 here]] on Website/SpaceBattles and [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13551789/1/Or-Is-He-Both here]] on Website/FanfictionDotNet.

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* RealityEnsues:

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* RealityEnsues: TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Hulk ''loves'' dishing these out, but takes the time to dissect Malty’s reasoning for killing Bruce and exposing her as a self-centered brat who sees everyone as expendable but somehow never sees her actions coming back to bite her.
* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome:



* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Hulk ''loves'' dishing these out, but takes the time to dissect Malty’s reasoning for killing Bruce and exposing her as a self-centered brat who sees everyone as expendable but somehow never sees her actions coming back to bite her.
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* {{Epigraph}}: Like ''Immortal Hulk'', each chapter begins with a quote from a famous piece of literature,


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* TouchedByVorlons: Hulk gives Raphtalia a mark that erases her slave seal and gives her gamma strength.

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** King Aultcray displays interest in Bruce the moment he mentions he's a doctor, though that's likely due to self-interest and wanting to wring as much knowledge form the Shield Hero before the rape accusation.
** Myne/Malty is a lot nicer to Bruce and even calls him by his first name when asked. Though, this is thoroughly [[SubvertedTrope subverted]] later on when she plainly tells him her hatred of him before cruelly speeding along his death.

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** King Aultcray displays an interest in Bruce the moment he mentions he's a doctor, though that's likely due to self-interest and wanting to wring as much knowledge form from the Shield Hero before the rape accusation.
** Myne/Malty is a lot nicer to Bruce and even calls him by his first name when asked. Though, this is thoroughly [[SubvertedTrope subverted]] later on when she plainly tells him her hatred of him before cruelly speeding along with his death.death.
* AdaptedOut: Instead of Naofumi, Bruce Banner is summoned to the Kingdom of Melromarc as the Shield Hero.



* EntertaininglyWrong: Bruce thinks that King Aultcray purposefully summoned him because he's the Hulk and that the other heroes are there to put him down if the Hulk gets out of hand. What he doesn't know is that Aultcray has no idea who he is and is mistreating him solely for his hatred towards the Shield Hero and Demihumans.

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* EntertaininglyWrong: To the point of a RunningGag.
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Bruce thinks that King Aultcray purposefully summoned him because he's the Hulk and that the other heroes are there to put him down if the Hulk gets out of hand. What he doesn't know is that Aultcray has no idea who he is and is mistreating him solely for his hatred towards the Shield Hero and Demihumans. Furthermore, he balks at the revelation that Malty intends to frame him for a FalseRapeAccusation as she further twists the knife in his neck as he lay dying.



** Bruce's alias during his arrival in Melromarc is Robert Banner, which is his lesser used full name.

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** Bruce's alias during his arrival in Melromarc is Robert Banner, which is his lesser used lesser-used full name.
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** Because the world that Melromarc resides in is close to medieval times development-wise, there is no modern sewage system or toilets. Because of this, Bruce is forced to go to the bathroom in a chamber pot.


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** Bruce finds that the morning after the Hulk's rampage that the village he's residing in is just getting news of his death. Because there's no way to instantaneously update or check information like through telegrams or telephones, there's an information lag that relies wholly on the speed of messengers.
** Due to the transformation into the Hulk shredding his clothes, Bruce is forced to steal them from local residences. He even admits that he's broken into a few houses for money and clothes out of desperation.
** Bruce ruminates that maps of the land are not widely available and are expensive, which he cannot get because he has no money. As such he needs to wholly rely on the Hulk for a sense of direction.
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** Motoyasu, Ren, and Itsuki believe that they are in a standard TrappedInAnotherWorld story where each of them are the protagonists and Bruce is basically the semi-useless tag-along side-character.

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** Motoyasu, Ren, and Itsuki believe that they are in a standard TrappedInAnotherWorld story where each of them are the protagonists and Bruce is basically the semi-useless tag-along side-character.side-character.
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** Bruce mentions to his fellow heroes that he has only really played ''VideoGame/{{Minecraft}}'' on pacifist.

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** Bruce mentions to his fellow heroes that he has only really played ''VideoGame/{{Minecraft}}'' on pacifist.peaceful.
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** Bruce, due to not being a gamer, is completely at a loss with the mechanics of his status menu and the Legendary Shield. Needless to say, his mist mission ends badly and he barely kills any Balloon monsters.

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** Bruce, due to not being a gamer, is completely at a loss with the mechanics of his status menu and the Legendary Shield. Needless to say, his mist first mission ends badly and he barely kills any Balloon monsters.

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* CurbStompBattle: Motoyasu, Ren, and Itsuki attempt to stop Hulk's warpath towards Malty. Predictably the "battle" turns into a one-sided MookHorrorShow as not only is the Hulk immortal, but massively outstats them in every category along with having access to the [[DangerousForbiddenTechnique Curse Series:]] [[ThePowerOfHate Wrath]] from the get-go.



* CurbStompBattle: Motoyasu, Ren, and Itsuki attempt to stop Hulk's warpath towards Malty. Predictably the "battle" turns into a one-sided MookHorrorShow as not only is the Hulk immortal, but massively outstats them in every category along with having access to the [[DangerousForbiddenTechnique Curse Series:]] [[ThePowerOfHate Wrath]] from the get-go.



** In a darkly comedic sense, Bruce thinks that he's trapped in a standard superhero crossover plot a-la ''ComicBook/SecretWars''. As such, he makes assumptions about the narrative solely revolving around him and how the kingdom wants the Hulk's strength despite their complete lack of knowledge about it.

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** In a darkly comedic sense, Bruce thinks that he's trapped in a standard superhero crossover plot a-la ''ComicBook/SecretWars''.''ComicBook/SecretWars1984''. As such, he makes assumptions about the narrative solely revolving around him and how the kingdom wants the Hulk's strength despite their complete lack of knowledge about it.
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* CurbStompBattle: Motoyasu, Ren, and Itsuki attempt to stop Hulk's warpath towards Malty. Predictably the "battle" turns into a one-sided MookHorrorShow as not only is the Hulk immortal, but massively outstats them in every category along with having access to the [[DangerousForbiddenTechnique Curse Series:]] [[ThePowerOfHate Wrath]] from the get-go.
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* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Hulk ''loves'' dishing these out, but takes the time to dissect Malty’s reasoning for killing Bruce and exposing her as a self-centered brat who sees everyone as expendable but somehow never sees her actions coming back to bite her.
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* RealityEnsues:
** Due to lacking the gaming knowledge necessary to grasp his Legendary Shield, Bruce's first mission against the low-level Balloons goes incredibly poorly.
** Rather than try to take the lead due to his experience, Bruce defers most of his decisions to Malty/Myne because she's supposedly more familiar with adventuring and unlike him can actually read the local language.
** While Bruce does pick up a children's book to learn the local language, learning a whole new language takes time and Bruce finds himself struggling with it during the hour he has reading it.
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* EntertaininglyWrong: Bruce thinks that King Aultcray purposefully summoned him because he's the Hulk and that the other heroes are there to put him down if the Hulk gets out of hand. What he doesn't know is that Aultcray has no idea who he is and is mistreating him solely for his hatred towards the Shield Hero and Demihumans.



** Bruce mentions to his fellow heroes that he has only really played ''VideoGame/{{Minecraft}}'' on pacifist.

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** Bruce mentions to his fellow heroes that he has only really played ''VideoGame/{{Minecraft}}'' on pacifist.pacifist.
* OutsideContextProblem: The Hulk is this to the Kingdom of Melromarc and Three Cardinal Heroes. Not only does he have the powers of the Shield Hero, but the Hulk is also an incredibly strong, fast, and smart creature that simply ''cannot die''.
* WrongGenreSavvy:
** In a darkly comedic sense, Bruce thinks that he's trapped in a standard superhero crossover plot a-la ''ComicBook/SecretWars''. As such, he makes assumptions about the narrative solely revolving around him and how the kingdom wants the Hulk's strength despite their complete lack of knowledge about it.
** Bruce, due to not being a gamer, is completely at a loss with the mechanics of his status menu and the Legendary Shield. Needless to say, his mist mission ends badly and he barely kills any Balloon monsters.
** Motoyasu, Ren, and Itsuki believe that they are in a standard TrappedInAnotherWorld story where each of them are the protagonists and Bruce is basically the semi-useless tag-along side-character.
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''...Or Is He Both?'' is a ''ComicBook/ImmortalHulk''/''LightNovel/TheRisingOfTheShieldHero'' CrossOver fanfic written by [[https://www.fanfiction.net/u/2328776/The-Infamous-Man The Infamous Man]] of ''FanFic/AmazingFantasy'' and ''FanFic/JustAnUnorthodoxThief'' fame. It can be read [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/or-is-he-both-the-rising-of-the-shield-hero-the-immortal-hulk.840944/#post-66393314 here] on Website/SpaceBattles and [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13551789/1/Or-Is-He-Both here]] on Website/FanfictionDotNet.

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''...Or Is He Both?'' is a ''ComicBook/ImmortalHulk''/''LightNovel/TheRisingOfTheShieldHero'' CrossOver fanfic written by [[https://www.fanfiction.net/u/2328776/The-Infamous-Man The Infamous Man]] of ''FanFic/AmazingFantasy'' and ''FanFic/JustAnUnorthodoxThief'' fame. It can be read [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/or-is-he-both-the-rising-of-the-shield-hero-the-immortal-hulk.840944/#post-66393314 here] here]] on Website/SpaceBattles and [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13551789/1/Or-Is-He-Both here]] on Website/FanfictionDotNet.
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[[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk Doctor Robert "Bruce" Banner]] was supposed to be dead. He had been several times. But he has come to the startling truth that the Hulk will not let him die. And with this new relationship, he's been summoned by the Kingdom of Melromarc to fight as the Shield Hero. But they may have summoned something worse. What is the Immortal Hulk? And what was brought from beyond the Green Door?

''...Or Is He Both?'' is a ''ComicBook/ImmortalHulk''/''LightNovel/TheRisingOfTheShieldHero'' CrossOver fanfic written by [[https://www.fanfiction.net/u/2328776/The-Infamous-Man The Infamous Man]] of ''FanFic/AmazingFantasy'' and ''FanFic/JustAnUnorthodoxThief'' fame. It can be read [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/or-is-he-both-the-rising-of-the-shield-hero-the-immortal-hulk.840944/#post-66393314 here] on Website/SpaceBattles and [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13551789/1/Or-Is-He-Both here]] on Website/FanfictionDotNet.

Beware of unmarked spoilers for the story and ''ComicBook/ImmortalHulk''.
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!!...Or Is He Both? contains examples of:
* AdaptationalNiceGuy:
** Motoyasu, Itsuki, and Ren are noticeably a lot nicer and personable to Bruce compared to their treatment with Naofumi. It's likely due to Bruce's noticeable freak-out when he was summoned and admitting to them that he's not a gamer.
** King Aultcray displays interest in Bruce the moment he mentions he's a doctor, though that's likely due to self-interest and wanting to wring as much knowledge form the Shield Hero before the rape accusation.
** Myne/Malty is a lot nicer to Bruce and even calls him by his first name when asked. Though, this is thoroughly [[SubvertedTrope subverted]] later on when she plainly tells him her hatred of him before cruelly speeding along his death.
* AtrociousAlias: Bruce decides to hide his identity by going with his actual name Robert Banner. Unfortunately, this has Motoyasu begin calling him "Bob" which Bruce comes to really, ''really'' find annoying.
* DeathIsCheap: Bruce Banner can physically die, but come nightfall the Hulk rises from the grave with all wounds healed. When the sun comes up again, Bruce will awaken fully healed.
* MythologyGag:
** Bruce reflects upon his many deaths throughout his career, the most recent being shot with an arrow by ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} during ''ComicBook/CivilWarII''
** Bruce's alias during his arrival in Melromarc is Robert Banner, which is his lesser used full name.
** Bruce mentions to his fellow heroes that he has only really played ''VideoGame/{{Minecraft}}'' on pacifist.

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