History DethroningMoment / HowIMetYourMother

*** RippenFan33: Agreed, and I'd like to add this little comment. The finale was apparently made earlier so Ted's kids would stay the same age, but not only would them being older be a good joke (as a sort of LampshadeHanging fro how long the story was taking), but one episode featured a FunnyBackgroundEvent where a couple got engaged, had kids, became old etc. while the gang was telling Canada jokes, and that was apparently okay, but Ted's kids aging isn't?

* CapriciousSalmon: HIMYM is one of my favorite sitcoms, and while I have a lot of least favorite episodes, the one episode I hate is "Little Minnesota" for how tightly Ted grabs the IdiotBall and never lets go. In the episode, Ted's sister Heather comes to visit and tells Ted she has her life back on track, and even gets a job at GNB with [[AnythingThatMoves Barney]] to prove it. She wants to move to NYC to be closer to Ted and wants him to cosign her apartment's lease. Sister or not, Ted has every right not to give her a second chance. Before, she stole his stuff to buy tickets to a concert in Spain and was generally irresponsible and reckless. During the whole time he's known Ted, Barney has never met Heather but he always made jokes about banging her, so Ted is convinced something will go down. And his fears are proven true when Lily goes to visit Marshall at lunch and she sees the pair in Barney's office with no clothes on and messy hair. The only rational explanation is they slept together, on Heather's first day of work no less. Ted confronts her about this and Heather and Barney reveal that they faked it to "prove" Heather had her life back on track, and they knew Lily would blab. Ted accepts her and that's that. No, Heather is still irresponsible and that just seals the deal. In fact, she's probably worse than she was before, [[AtLeastIAdmitIt at least before she was honest about the fact she stole Ted's furniture.]] If it was something like Lily mistook something totally innocent, like Heather said or did something normal out of context, I could see her point that Ted was jumping to conclusion. Maybe it could've been Barney tries to proposition Heather but she refuses. But "we faked it, you're too tightly wound" doesn't prove anything. Considering how much of an UnreliableNarrator Barney is, part of me thinks they did end up sleeping together and lied to hurt Ted (or Ted didn't want to tell his kids that was the truth). Also, Heather, beyond a mention at Virginia's wedding, is never seen or heard from again, so I can only assume her life spiraled out of control and Ted finally wised up and cut the cord. I love Robin and Marshall's storyline, but this is my least favorite plot, especially with Season 9 considered.

* CapriciousSalmon: I have a lot of least favorite episodes, but the one episode I hate is "Little Minnesota" for its ending. In the episode, Ted's sister Heather comes to visit and tells Ted she has her life back on track, as beforehand she was a crazed, irresponsible party-girl, and even gets a job at GNB with [[AnythingThatMoves Barney]] to prove it. She wants to move to NYC to be closer to Ted and wants him to cosign her lease. Sister or not, Ted has every right not to, especially since she stole his stuff to buy tickets to a concert in Spain. Now, throughout the years, Barney has never met Heather but he always made jokes about banging her to Ted, so Ted is convinced something will go down between them. And his fears are proven true when Lily goes to visit Marshall during lunch and she sees the pair with their hair messed up and their clothes off. Now the only rational explanation is they slept together, on Heather's first day of work no less. Ted confronts her about this and Heather and Barney reveal that they faked it to "prove" Heather had her life back on track, and they knew Lily would blab. So for some weird reason, Ted accepts her and that's that. No, Heather is still irresponsible and that just seals the deal. If it was something like Lily mistook something totally innocent, like Heather said or did something normal out of context and Barney was being his [[Troll normal self]], I could see her point, but that doesn't prove anything. And Heather, beyond a mention at Virginia's wedding, is never seen or heard from again, so I can only assume her life spiraled out of control again. I love Robin and Marshall's plot but this is my least favorite plot, especially with Season 9 considered.

* CapriciousSalmon: I have a lot of least favorite episodes, but the one episode I hate is "Little Minnesota" for its ending. You see, Heather says she has her life back on track, but Lily finds her and Barney in a situation where the only rational explanation would be that they slept together in his office. Ted confronts her about this and Heather says they faked it because they knew Ted would still think she was just a stupid, irresponsible girl, not a mature young woman. No, Heather is still irresponsible and that just seals the deal. On top of that, Ted had every right to think she wasn't mature and he shouldn't be guilted for being justifiably mad. I love Robin and Marshall's plot but Heather is my least favorite character.

* CapriciousSalmon: I have a lot of least favorite episodes, but the one episode I hate is "Little Minnesota" for its ending. You see, Heather says she has her life back on track, but Lily finds her and Barney in a situation where the only rational explanation would be that they slept together in his office. Ted confronts her about this and Heather says they faked it because they knew Ted would still think she was just a stupid, irresponsible girl, not a mature young woman. No, Heather is still irresponsible and that just seals the deal. On top of that, Ted had every right to think she wasn't mature and he shouldn't be guilted into being justifiably mad. I love Robin and Marshall's plot but Heather is my least favorite character.

* Tropers/SWFMax: For me, the DMOS is in the episode "Bagpipes," when Robin and Barney, who are dating at the time, use affectionate nicknames for each other. Ted, Robin's ex-boyfriend, suspects that something fishy is going on, because when he was dating Robin, she hated nicknames. However, in the earlier episode "Where Were We?", which takes place while Ted is dating Robin, Robin calls Ted "Teddy bear." She does not say it sarcastically. Therefore, the moment in the episode "Bagpipes" is inconsistent with the show's history.

* xFllo: My DMOS for this series is "Of Course". Ted's idea for a super date was cheesy and the song he sang about it was lame, and actually an insult to his previous iconic romantic gestures (stealing a French horn and making it rain for Robin, or a two-minute date for Stella). In addition, everybody behaved horribly to Robin and they unjustifiably praised the guy Robin was working with. Ughh!
** Tropers/LawandDisorder: "Of Course" gets even worse, in my opinion. Robin and Barney broke up a while back and the other guys in the group are talking about Barney's successful womanizing. Note that this doesn't include Barney, or is about him behaving in a way Robin hasn't gotten used to for years at this point, but only Ted and Marshal. So Robin takes the logical course of action and sics an author after Barney whose claim to fame is her ability to break men's spirits. Even when she admits to this nobody calls her on her vindictive and poorly-aimed revenge, Ted and Marshal don't apologize, but instead they yell at Barney for making her feel bad. The ending is the group (including Robin) bragging about how she had sex in front of Barney in the same manner that'd been considering a taunt all episode. Barney gets a lot of punishment in the series, most of it incredibly deserved to be fair, but this was one of the most undeservedly cruel.

** Tropers/{{tsstevens}}: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=13eDfrMgFQM#t=31 Wow.]] Just... [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=t4tQbCSBeIE#t=66 wow.]] Way to make the whole series RuinedForever. To completely screw with established canon and characterization and be so mean spirited not just to the characters but to fans, I hope the writers struggle to find work after this. I really do. That's how upset I am.

** Tropers/{{Prime_of_Perfection}}: This ending is the first time I've ever been hit by a RuinedForever type of reaction to something. After the entire series build up regarding character development, so many plots that appeared to be wrapping up well enough, and me overall being okay with tons of problems other people have had, this has been the one to actually hit me hard enough to say fuck this series. With it continuing on with everything not being perfect, I was fine with that. However, it was them unceremoniously killing off Tracy after having setup so many different fine endings then pushing Robin YET AGAIN back into the forefront. These are the tactics of bad fanfiction, not a quality series finale.

Kids, I'm gonna tell you a story about the [[DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck moments of suck]].

* Miniatures: I'm tempted to say the finale, but really, it's the season 4 episode "Shelter Island" in light of the finale for me. Near the end of the episode, Robin begs Ted not to marry Stella, not so that he can be with her, but because it's not the ending he deserves. She claims that Ted deserves better than to "disappear" into "someone else's wedding, someone else's house, someone else's life". Oh, you mean like how Robin presumably winds up marrying Ted, moving into HIS dream home, being the stepmother to children she never wanted, and more or less filling the Tracy-shaped hole in Ted's life? Robin's speech is fine on its own, but with the added context of the finale, its implications are awful. Apparently it's unthinkable that Ted might not be the hero and author of his story, but it's perfectly all right for Robin to "disappear into someone else's life". It's one of the most blatant and infuriating instances of HIMYM viewing its female characters as rewards for the dudes, not people in their own right.

* Miniatures: I'm tempted to say the finale, but really, it's the season 4 episode "Shelter Island" in light of the finale for me. Near the end of the episode, Robin begs Ted not to marry Stella, not so that he can be with her, but because it's not the ending he deserves. She claims that Ted deserves better than to "disappear" into "someone else's wedding, someone else's house, someone else's life". Oh, you mean like how [[spoiler: Robin presumably winds up marrying Ted, moving into HIS dream home, being the stepmother to children she never wanted, and more or less filling the Tracy-shaped hole in Ted's life]]? Robin's speech is fine on its own, but with the added context of the finale, its implications are awful. Apparently it's unthinkable that Ted might not be the hero and author of his story, but [[spoiler: it's perfectly all right for Robin to "disappear into someone else's life"]]. It's one of the most blatant and infuriating instances of HIMYM viewing its female characters as rewards for the dudes, not people in their own right.

* Miniatures: I'm tempted to say the finale, but really, it's the season 4 episode "Shelter Island" in light of the finale for me. Near the end of the episode, Robin begs Ted not to marry Stella, not so that he can be with her, but because it's not the ending he deserves. She claims that Ted deserves better than to "disappear" into "someone else's wedding, someone else's house, someone else's life". Oh, you mean like how [[spoiler: Robin presumably winds up marrying Ted, moving into HIS dream home, being the stepmother to children she never wanted, and more or less filling the Tracy-shaped hole in Ted's life]]? Robin's speech is fine on its own, but with the added context of the finale, its implications are awful. Apparently it's unthinkable that Ted might not be the hero and author of his story, but [[spoiler: it's perfectly all right for Robin to "disappear into someone else's life"]]. It's one of the most blatant and infuriating instances of HIMYM treating its female characters as rewards for the dudes, not people in their own right.

* Scsigs: Let me just say that I hate the finale, but before I get to that, let me explain as to why I think season 9, as a whole, is just one big, overly long, festival of suck. The fact that the build up to the wedding took the entire season to get through. It should've been only a quarter of the season, then have the rest be dedicated to Ted and Tracy as a couple and maybe Barney & Robin enjoying their honeymoon and marriage. Some episodes, like Barney finally explaining his job, the final slap, and Barney giving the Playbook to two younger dudes are all what I think should've been kept. The rest, minus the wedding and Ted meeting Tracy, should've been removed because most of it was meaningless filler. I think the decision to make this season more serialized and take place over a 48-hour period with the most bland, boring filler in the world made it a slog to get through and, unfortunately, put even more weight on the finale to be what we'd hoped for. Unfortunately, the finale took a turn down a road it shouldn't have. No one seems to mention anywhere here that they spent up until the week the episode aired with which ending they were going to go with; the terrible one in the episode, or the good one from the DVD set. It came down to the wire and the creators made the decision. Unfortunately, it was the wrong one. The ending in the final product is what should've been on the DVD as an alternate ending, not the other one. Let's take a currently-running series for comparison in a similar situation; ''Manga/OnePiece''. Eiichiro Oda has said that he planned the series' ending already. However, I'm sure he's smart enough to where the ending will be tweaked to accommodate the development the series has had and will have until it nears its end. He's not just going to regress it to make his ending work. That's the thing with the ending, it wouldn't be as bad of a blow if it wasn't being looked forward to as much as it was, but it was, and now the creators have to live with it. You have to change your plans when CharacterizationMarchesOn and not piss off fans. I admit, I still like the show. I think it did a lot of what ''Friends'' did, only better in a lot of cases. Every time I see it's on, I tune in to it, but I can't bare watching the finale again, it's just too awful for these and many other reasons. If this trope ever needs a new picture on the main page, it should be the DVD cover of season 9 of this show. Just sayin'.

* Tropers/Statzkeen: "The Playbook": Ok, a lot of the plays were hilarious, but the Scuba Diver wasn't funny (because the entire thing was blindingly obvious right away), and was also completely unbelievable, since Barney was so blatantly setting it up and yet all his friends, with no even half-hearted plot explanation for their sudden gaping gullibility, not only take Barney 100% at his word but even band together and start working hard to convince the girl to go out with Barney despite her having every reason not to do so.

* Scsigs: Let me just say that I hate the finale, but before I get to that, let me explain as to why I think season 9, as a whole, is just one big, overly long, festival of suck. The fact that the build up to the wedding took the entire season to get through. It should've been only a quarter of the season, then have the rest be dedicated to Ted and Tracy as a couple and maybe Barney & Robin enjoying their honeymoon and marriage. Some episodes, like Barney finally explaining his job, the final slap, and Barney giving the Playbook to two younger dudes are all what I think should've been kept. The rest, minus the wedding and Ted meeting Tracy, should've been removed because most of it was meaningless filler. I think the decision to make this season more serialized and take place over a 48-hour period with the most bland, boring filler in the world made it a slog to get through and, unfortunately, put even more weight on the finale to be what we'd hoped for. Unfortunately, the finale took a turn down a road it shouldn't have. No one seems to mention anywhere here that they spent up until the week the episode aired with which ending they were going to go with; the terrible one in the episode, or the good one from the DVD set. It came down to the wire and the creators made the decision. Unfortunately, it was the wrong one. The ending in the final product is what should've been on the DVD as an alternate ending, not the other one. Let's take a currently-running series for comparison in a similar situation; ''Manga/OnePiece''. Eiichiro Oda has said that he planned the series' ending already. However, I'm sure he's smart enough to where the ending will be tweaked to accommodate the development the series has had and will have until it nears its end. He's not just going to regress it to make his ending work. That's the thing with the ending, it wouldn't be as bad of a blow if the ending weren't being looked forward to as much as it was, but it was, and now the creators have to live with it. You have to change your plans when CharacterizationMarchesOn and not piss off fans. I admit, I still like the show. I think it did a lot of what ''Friends'' did, only better in a lot of cases. Every time I see it's on, I tune in to it, but I can't bare watching the finale again, it's just too awful for these and many other reasons. If this trope ever needs a new picture on the main page, it should be the DVD cover of season 9 of this show. Just sayin'.

* Scsigs: Let me just say that I hate the finale, but before I get to that, let me explain as to why I think season 9, as a whole, is just one big, overly long, festival of suck. The fact that the build up to the wedding took the entire season to get through. It should've been only a quarter of the season, then have the rest be dedicated to Ted and Tracy as a couple and maybe Barney & Robin enjoying their honeymoon and marriage. Some episodes, like Barney finally explaining his job, the final slap, and Barney giving the Playbook to two younger dudes are all what I think should've been kept. The rest, minus the wedding and Ted meeting Tracy, should've been removed because most of it was meaningless filler. I think the decision to make this season more serialized and take place over a 48-hour period with the most bland, boring filler in the world was a slog to get through and, unfortunately, put even more weight on the finale to be what we'd hoped for. Unfortunately, the finale took a turn down a road it shouldn't have. No one seems to mention anywhere here that they spent up until the week the episode aired with which ending they were going to go with; the terrible one in the episode, or the good one from the DVD set. It came down to the wire and the creators made the decision. Unfortunately, it was the wrong one. The ending in the final product is what should've been on the DVD as an alternate ending, not the other one. Let's take a currently-running series for comparison in a similar situation; ''Manga/OnePiece''. Eiichiro Oda has said that he planned the series' ending already. However, I'm sure he's smart enough to where the ending will be tweaked to accommodate the development the series has had and will have until it nears its end. He's not just going to regress it to make his ending work. That's the thing with the ending, it wouldn't be as bad of a blow if the ending weren't being looked forward to as much as it was, but it was, and now the creators have to live with it. You have to change your plans when CharacterizationMarchesOn and not piss off fans. I admit, I still like the show. I think it did a lot of what ''Friends'' did, only better in a lot of cases. Every time I see it's on, I tune in to it, but I can't bare watching the finale again, it's just too awful for these and many other reasons. If this trope ever needs a new picture on the main page, it should be the DVD cover of season 9 of this show. Just sayin'.