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* TrainingFromHell: His men's retreats are brutal wilderness excursions with rules such as "you only eat what you kill" and "if you have an issue with someone else, fight it out".
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* ButNotTooBi: Cary identifies as bisexual, but very little is shown of him and Joe hooking up during their swinging experiment, [[DoubleStandard especially compared]] to [[GirlOnGirlIsHot Sherry and Love]]. Granted that Joe is straight and not genuinely into it, but all of the action boils down to Cary having ADateWithRosiePalms in front of the mirror as "foreplay", to the point that even Joe {{lampshade|Hanging}}s that Cary is probably just projecting his ScrewYourself fantasy onto other men.

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* ButNotTooBi: Cary identifies as bisexual, but very little is shown of him and Joe hooking up during their swinging experiment, [[DoubleStandard especially compared]] to [[GirlOnGirlIsHot Sherry and Love]]. Granted that Joe is straight and not genuinely into it, but all of the action boils down to Cary having ADateWithRosiePalms masturbating in front of the mirror as "foreplay", to the point that even Joe {{lampshade|Hanging}}s that Cary is probably just projecting his ScrewYourself fantasy onto other men.



* {{Narcissist}}: While not really an unlikeable person, Cary is ''incredibly'' self-obsessed, presenting himself as an "optimised" human being. He really enjoys surrounding himself with people who adore him and likes spewing out anecdotes about himself being a hero under completely irrelevant circumstances. More comically, he also has ADateWithRosiePalms [[ScrewYourself in front of mirrors]] as his own form of sexual foreplay.

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* {{Narcissist}}: While not really an unlikeable person, Cary is ''incredibly'' self-obsessed, presenting himself as an "optimised" human being. He really enjoys surrounding himself with people who adore him and likes spewing out anecdotes about himself being a hero under completely irrelevant circumstances. More comically, he also has ADateWithRosiePalms [[ScrewYourself masturbates in front of mirrors]] mirrors as his own form of sexual foreplay.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: To Ron, from the first season, as they are both well-respected figures but constantly abusive to their spouse/partner, who would be single mothers Claudia and Marienne. The only difference is that while Ron is abusive to Paco as well, Ryan, on the other hand, seems to treat Juliette with decent respect, though he rarely gets to spend time with her.

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[[folder:Marienne Bellamy]]
!! Marienne Bellamy
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->'''Played by:''' Creator/TatiGabrielle

A librarian that Joe meets in suburbia.

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[[folder:Dante Ferguson]]
!! Marienne Bellamy
Dante Ferguson
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->'''Played by:''' Creator/TatiGabrielle

A librarian that Joe meets in suburbia.
Creator/BenMehl

Marianne's library assistant.



* BatmanGambit: [[spoiler:After she's held hostage by Joe in season 4, she is found by Nadia and they team up to make sure she gets free and able to see her daughter Juliette again. Nadia takes her friend Beatrice's contact, pretending to be her, when Joe (as Marienne) texts her, with Nadia (as Beatrice) criticizing Marienne for her supposed relapse and threatening to give Juliette's custody to her grandmother. Marienne then fakes her own death to fool Joe, who leaves her on a bench at night, allowing Nadia to wake her up with an injection. Still, they end up losing when Kate, through her influences, gets Joe exonerated for all his crimes and he frames poor Nadia for his murders on Rhys and Edward, her college classmate and boyfriend]].
* EverythingSoundsSexierInFrench: She was born in Paris and moved to the US as a young girl. French is her first language and she still speaks it fluently. Joe is impressed and aroused when she first does it around him.
* {{Expy}}: She and her daughter Juliette are ''very'' loosely based on Mary-Kay and Nomi from ''Literature/YouLoveMe''.
* FosterKid: Like Joe, she was a former foster kid. It's a (relatively, for Joe) genuine point of connection between them, since they both want the best for their respective children and don't want them to wind up in the system.
* HotLibrarian: A beautiful librarian whom Joe freely fantasizes over.
* GutFeeling:
-->'''Marienne:''' If there is ever, even for a fleeting moment, a tiny voice in your head, and that tiny voice is telling you, “I deserve better”, listen to her. That’s your partner. That’s your real, true love. And if you betray her long enough, you will lose her.
* NiceGirl: She has feelings for Joe but refuses to be a homewrecker. She also seems more grounded than his previous "You's".
* RecoveredAddict: PlayedForDrama. She has beaten her drug addiction, but her well-off, white ex-husband keeps painting her as a crackhead in their custody battle, which stresses her out to no end.
* ShoutOut: Her name (and its pronunciation) calls to mind another [[Theatre/TheMusicMan famous librarian]].
* SoleSurvivor: She is only woman who Joe was obsessed with to survive the events so far.
* StrugglingSingleMother: She has an ex, Ryan, but she does what she can to parent Juliette alone and is in a lot of financial and emotional turbulence.
* UngratefulBitch: When Joe catches her and Ryan in a loud and soon to be violent argument and asks Ryan to leave, she instead yells at him for being a white knight. Justified due to this possibly angering Ryan into harassing her further.
* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: [[spoiler:Marienne orders Nadia not to call the police to free her out of fear that Joe will escape and has her participate in a complicated plan to free her. It succeeds, but Joe catches onto Nadia, ends up murdering her boyfriend Edward and framing her for it. If Nadia called the cops, Marienne would have been freed and Joe would have been arrested at best or forced to flee at worst.]]

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* BatmanGambit: [[spoiler:After she's held hostage by NiceGuy: He's such a good guy that even the misanthropic Joe in season 4, she likes him. [[spoiler: Joe's high esteem of Dante is found by Nadia and they team up what convinces him to make sure she gets free and able to see her daughter Juliette again. Nadia takes her friend Beatrice's contact, pretending to be her, when Joe (as Marienne) texts her, leave his son Henry with Nadia (as Beatrice) criticizing Marienne for her supposed relapse Dante and threatening to give Juliette's custody to her grandmother. Marienne then fakes her own death to fool Joe, who leaves her on a bench at night, allowing Nadia to wake her up with an injection. Still, they end up losing when Kate, through her influences, gets Joe exonerated for all his crimes and he frames poor Nadia for his murders on Rhys and Edward, her college classmate and boyfriend]].
* EverythingSoundsSexierInFrench: She was born in Paris and moved to the US as a young girl. French is her first language and she still speaks it fluently. Joe is impressed and aroused when she first does it around him.
* {{Expy}}: She and her daughter Juliette are ''very'' loosely based on Mary-Kay and Nomi from ''Literature/YouLoveMe''.
* FosterKid: Like Joe, she was a former foster kid. It's a (relatively, for Joe) genuine point of connection between them, since they both want the best for their respective children and don't want them to wind up in the system.
* HotLibrarian: A beautiful librarian whom Joe freely fantasizes over.
* GutFeeling:
-->'''Marienne:''' If there is ever, even for a fleeting moment, a tiny voice in your head, and that tiny voice is telling you, “I deserve better”, listen to her. That’s your
partner. That’s your real, true love. And if you betray her long enough, you will lose her.
* NiceGirl: She has feelings for
Given his own orphaned background, it's clear this wasn't a decision Joe but refuses to be a homewrecker. She also seems more grounded than his previous "You's".
made lightly.]]
* RecoveredAddict: PlayedForDrama. She has beaten her drug addiction, but her well-off, white ex-husband keeps painting her as a crackhead TwoferTokenMinority: His eyesight is impaired and he's in their custody battle, which stresses her out to no end.
* ShoutOut: Her name (and its pronunciation) calls to mind
a relationship with another [[Theatre/TheMusicMan famous librarian]].
* SoleSurvivor: She is only woman who Joe was obsessed with to survive the events so far.
* StrugglingSingleMother: She has an ex, Ryan, but she does what she can to parent Juliette alone and is in a lot of financial and emotional turbulence.
* UngratefulBitch: When Joe catches her and Ryan in a loud and soon to be violent argument and asks Ryan to leave, she instead yells at him for being a white knight. Justified due to this possibly angering Ryan into harassing her further.
* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: [[spoiler:Marienne orders Nadia not to call the police to free her out of fear that Joe will escape and has her participate in a complicated plan to free her. It succeeds, but Joe catches onto Nadia, ends up murdering her boyfriend Edward and framing her for it. If Nadia called the cops, Marienne would have been freed and Joe would have been arrested at best or forced to flee at worst.]]
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[[folder:Dante Ferguson]]
!! Dante Ferguson
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->'''Played by:''' Creator/BenMehl

Marianne's library assistant.
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* NiceGuy: He's such a good guy that even the misanthropic Joe likes him. [[spoiler: Joe's high esteem of Dante is what convinces him to leave his son Henry with Dante and his partner. Given his own orphaned background, it's clear this wasn't a decision Joe made lightly.]]
* TwoferTokenMinority: His eyesight is impaired and he's in a relationship with another man.
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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: [[spoiler:Marienne orders Nadia not to call the police to free her out of fear that Joe will escape and has her participate in a complicated plan to free her. It succeeds, but Joe catches onto Nadia, ends up murdering her boyfriend Edward and framing her for it. If Nadia called the cops, Marienne would have been freed and Joe would have been arrested at best or forced to flee at worst.]]
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* BatmanGambit: [[spoiler:After she's held hostage by Joe in season 4, she is found by Nadia and they team up to make sure she gets free and able to see her daughter Juliette again. Nadia takes her friend Beatrice's contact, pretending to be her, when Joe (as Marienne) texts her, with Nadia (as Beatrice) criticizing Marienne for her supposed relapse and threatening to give Juliette's custody to her grandmother. Marienne then fakes her own death to fool Joe, who leaves her on a bench at night, allowing Nadia to wake her up with an injection. Still, they end up losing when Kate, through her influences, gets Joe exonerated for all his crimes and he frames poor Nadia for his murders on Rhys and Edward, her college classmate and boyfriend]].
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* PsychoPartyMember: [[spoiler: Aside from Joe and Love ''obviously'', Ryan is shown to be the only Madre Linda resident to be completely unhinged and psychotic.]]
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* RealityEnsues: For Joe - when he finds her in Paris, she is not happy to see him at all. In fact, she is understandably terrified and runs off, knowing that his presence in Paris means he faked his death and is in fact a SerialKiller like Love told her.
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* RealityEnsues: For Joe - when he finds her in Paris, she is not happy to see him at all. In fact, she is understandably terrified and runs off, knowing that his presence in Paris means he faked his death and is in fact a SerialKiller like Love told her.
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* PlayingGertrude: Creator/MichaelaMcManus (Natalie) is only eleven years older than Dylan Arnold, who played her character's son Theo.
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* FlawlessToken: The disabled, gay Dante is extremely kind and nice, to the point where [[spoiler:Joe leaves Henry with him.]]

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* SoleSurvivor: She is only woman who Joe was obsessed with to survive the events.

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* SoleSurvivor: She is only woman who Joe was obsessed with to survive the events.events so far.
* StrugglingSingleMother: She has an ex, Ryan, but she does what she can to parent Juliette alone and is in a lot of financial and emotional turbulence.


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* FlawlessToken: The disabled, gay Dante is extremely kind and nice, to the point where [[spoiler:Joe leaves Henry with him.]]


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* DramaticIrony: He was framed for Natalie's murder, even though he has no history of violent crime himself. His son, on the other hand...


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* KnightTemplarParent: He is [[PapaWolf extremely protective]] of his son, even though he's a violent serial rapist.
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Joe falls for his neighbour, said neighbour reciprocates his interest and Love is paranoid enough to figure this all out. [[spoiler: So of course Natalie is killed off within the space of a single episode.]]
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* TooDumbToLive: [[spoiler: Mocking someone who just pushed you off a building, that they don't have the guts to stab you to death, is not a good way to ensure your survival as Ryan finds out the hard way.]]
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* FamousLastWords: [[spoiler: He tells Joe he doesn't have it him to kill Ryan in cold blood. Joe immediately proceeds to do exactly that.]]
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* PlayingGertrude: Creator/MichaelaMcManus (Natalie) is only eleven years older than Dylan Arnold, who played her character's son Theo.
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* FamousLastWords: [[spoiler: He tells Joe he doesn't have it him to kill Ryan in cold blood. Joe proceeds to do exactly that.]]

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* FamousLastWords: [[spoiler: He tells Joe he doesn't have it him to kill Ryan in cold blood. Joe immediately proceeds to do exactly that.]]



* TemptingFate: [[spoiler: His last words are mocking Joe, claiming he doesn't have it in him to stab Ryan to death. Pretty much what you'd expect to happen happens.]]

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* TemptingFate: [[spoiler: His last words are mocking Joe, claiming he doesn't have it in him to stab Ryan to death. Pretty much Exactly what you'd expect to then happen happens.]]

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