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!!Dorian Gray
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!!Dorian Christopher Gray
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* TheAntiAntiChrist: Becomes this in "The Last Confession" when he [[spoiler:rejects Lucifer's offer to let him die for real and refuses to go along with whatever he has planned. Instead he resolves to spend an eternity fighting Lucifer and any other immortals he creates.]]
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* TheAntiAntiChrist: AntiAntiChrist: Becomes this in "The Last Confession" when he [[spoiler:rejects Lucifer's offer to let him die for real and refuses to go along with whatever he has planned. Instead he resolves to spend an eternity fighting Lucifer and any other immortals he creates.]]
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* BedTrick: [[spoiler:Lucifer pulls this on him, having taken over Toby's body and sleeping with.]]
* BroughtDownToNormal: In "The Mayfair Monster" his portrait is stolen and he ages as people experiment on it. [[spoiler:According to "Ever After" this happened again after Lucifer returned his soul.]]
* BroughtDownToNormal: In "The Mayfair Monster" his portrait is stolen and he ages as people experiment on it. [[spoiler:According to "Ever After" this happened again after Lucifer returned his soul.]]
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* BedTrick: He did this to Scarlet Moore while pretending to be her husband and [[spoiler:Lucifer pulls this on him, having taken over Toby's body and sleeping with.]]
* BroughtDownToNormal: In "The Mayfair Monster" his portrait is stolen and he ages as people experiment on it. [[spoiler:According to "Ever After" this happened again after Lucifer returned his soul.]]
* BroughtDownToNormal: In "The Mayfair Monster" his portrait is stolen and he ages as people experiment on it.
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* CharacterDevelopment: Following the audios in chronological order shows Dorian transform from an amoral and often selfish young man who is able to move on with his life after his adventures without much difficulty to a more brooding and depressed character who is worn down by his losses. He's more of a AntiHero in stories set closer to the present than ones set earlier, where he's more of a VillainProtagonist.
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* CharacterDevelopment: CharacterDevelopment:
** Following the audios in chronological order shows Dorian transform from an amoral and often selfish young man who is able to move on with his life after his adventures without much difficulty to a more brooding and depressed character who is worn down by his losses. He's more of a AntiHero in stories set closer to the present than ones set earlier, where he's more of aVillainProtagonist.VillainProtagonist.
** If you consider "The Lost Confessions" as canon, then the series shows Dorian as an amoral young immortal at the start of the 20th century who is rarely bothered by his failures and regrets. The series then shows him slowly being weighed down the horrors he sees, the losses he suffers and the painful knowledge of how lonely immortality is until he's a more depressed yet kind character until he [[spoiler:becomes willing to sacrifice his own life to save another. After his resurrection he's realised he's not a good person but regains the love of his life, finding some sort of happiness until accidentally releasing the Devil himself from his prison, who returns Dorian's soul and takes over Toby's body. Now more lost than ever and feeling the emotional pain of more than a century of life, instead of giving up Dorian comes to accept his failures and instead resolves to live despite Lucifer's attempts to convince him to finally die. He becomes the AntiAntiChrist, dedicating his immortality to stop whatever Lucifer has planned and be a better person]].
** Following the audios in chronological order shows Dorian transform from an amoral and often selfish young man who is able to move on with his life after his adventures without much difficulty to a more brooding and depressed character who is worn down by his losses. He's more of a AntiHero in stories set closer to the present than ones set earlier, where he's more of a
** If you consider "The Lost Confessions" as canon, then the series shows Dorian as an amoral young immortal at the start of the 20th century who is rarely bothered by his failures and regrets. The series then shows him slowly being weighed down the horrors he sees, the losses he suffers and the painful knowledge of how lonely immortality is until he's a more depressed yet kind character until he [[spoiler:becomes willing to sacrifice his own life to save another. After his resurrection he's realised he's not a good person but regains the love of his life, finding some sort of happiness until accidentally releasing the Devil himself from his prison, who returns Dorian's soul and takes over Toby's body. Now more lost than ever and feeling the emotional pain of more than a century of life, instead of giving up Dorian comes to accept his failures and instead resolves to live despite Lucifer's attempts to convince him to finally die. He becomes the AntiAntiChrist, dedicating his immortality to stop whatever Lucifer has planned and be a better person]].
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* TookALevelInKindness: As time goes on he becomes very different from the man he was when he made the deal for his immortality. [[spoiler:After his resurrection in Series 3 he's a bit more nicer to people due to having realised that he wasn't a good person]].
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* TookALevelInKindness: As time goes on he becomes very different from the man he was when he made the deal for his immortality. [[spoiler:After his resurrection in Series 3 he's a bit more nicer to people due to having realised that he wasn't a good person]].person]] and [[spoiler:regaining his soul makes him feel the guilt for every bad thing he's done ever more]].
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* TheAntichrist: Not literally, but [[spoiler:"All Through The House" reveals that the Lowell Foundation knew that Lucifer was trapped in the Brigadoon Hotel and were aware that Dorian was the perfect vessel that Lucifer could use to escape, which is why they wanted to find a way to kill him]]. [[spoiler:This ends up happening, but not in the way they expected as Lucifer instead escapes by taking over Toby's body, as his resurrection in Series 3 made him the perfect vessel.]]
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* TheAntichrist: TheAntichrist:
** Not literally, but [[spoiler:"All Through The House" reveals that the Lowell Foundation knew that Lucifer was trapped in the Brigadoon Hotel and were aware that Dorian was the perfect vessel that Lucifer could use to escape, which is why they wanted to find a way to kill him]]. [[spoiler:This ends up happening, but not in the way they expected as Lucifer instead escapes by taking over Toby's body, as his resurrection in Series 3 made him the perfect vessel.]]
** "The Last Confession" reveals that [[spoiler:Lucifer made Dorian immortal as part of a long term plan to pit immortals against each other until only the most ruthless and dangerous remained. While it's not established why he did this, Dorian presumes it's part of his plan to cause the apocalypse]].
* TheAntiAntiChrist: Becomes this in "The Last Confession" when he [[spoiler:rejects Lucifer's offer to let him die for real and refuses to go along with whatever he has planned. Instead he resolves to spend an eternity fighting Lucifer and any other immortals he creates.]]
** Not literally, but [[spoiler:"All Through The House" reveals that the Lowell Foundation knew that Lucifer was trapped in the Brigadoon Hotel and were aware that Dorian was the perfect vessel that Lucifer could use to escape, which is why they wanted to find a way to kill him]]. [[spoiler:This ends up happening, but not in the way they expected as Lucifer instead escapes by taking over Toby's body, as his resurrection in Series 3 made him the perfect vessel.]]
** "The Last Confession" reveals that [[spoiler:Lucifer made Dorian immortal as part of a long term plan to pit immortals against each other until only the most ruthless and dangerous remained. While it's not established why he did this, Dorian presumes it's part of his plan to cause the apocalypse]].
* TheAntiAntiChrist: Becomes this in "The Last Confession" when he [[spoiler:rejects Lucifer's offer to let him die for real and refuses to go along with whatever he has planned. Instead he resolves to spend an eternity fighting Lucifer and any other immortals he creates.]]
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!!!'''Voiced By:''' Laura Doddington and Creator/AlexanderVlahos ("The Lost Confessions")
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* TookALevelInKindness: As time goes on he becomes very different from the man he was when he made the deal for his immortality. [[After his resurrection in Series 3 he's a bit more nicer to people due to having realised that he wasn't a good person]].
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* TookALevelInKindness: As time goes on he becomes very different from the man he was when he made the deal for his immortality. [[After [[spoiler:After his resurrection in Series 3 he's a bit more nicer to people due to having realised that he wasn't a good person]].
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!!!'''Voiced By:''' Gabriel Woolf and Creator/HughSkinner (as Toby)
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* AdaptationalBadass: Was turned into a vampire in this version.
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* AdaptationalBadass: Was turned into a vampire half-vampire in this version.
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* Dhampyr: Claims to be this in "The Last Confession", though how this is possible isn't explained.
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* Dhampyr: {{Dhampyr}}: Claims to be this a half-vampire in "The Last Confession", though how this is possible isn't explained.explained.
* HeroOfAnotherStory: "The Last Confession" reveals her to be this, with Mina [[spoiler:having fought other immortals like Dorian as part of Lucifer's game, and unlike him being aware of what Lucifer had planned]].
* HeroOfAnotherStory: "The Last Confession" reveals her to be this, with Mina [[spoiler:having fought other immortals like Dorian as part of Lucifer's game, and unlike him being aware of what Lucifer had planned]].
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* Dhampyr: Claims to be this in "The Last Confession", though how this is possible isn't explained.
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* BackForTheFinale: He returns in "Ever After", the GrandFinale of the series.
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* BackForTheFinale: Sort of in "Ever After". [[spoiler:She died in Series 3, but Dorian meets a woman who looks just like her and claiming to be his mother. It's unclear whether she was a creation of Lucifer, or if Dorian is genuinely crazy and that woman was the real mother of Charlie White.]]
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* BackForTheFinale: Sort of in "Ever After". [[spoiler:She died in Series 3, but Dorian meets a woman namd Marion White who looks just like her and claiming to be his mother. It's unclear whether she was a creation of Lucifer, or if Dorian is genuinely crazy and that woman was the real mother of Charlie White.]]
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* TheBusCameBack: Sort of in "Ever After". [[spoiler:She died in Series 3, but Dorian meets a woman who looks just like her and claiming to be his mother. It's unclear whether she was a creation of Lucifer, or if Dorian is genuinely crazy and that woman was the real mother of Charlie White.]]
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* TheBusCameBack: BackForTheFinale: Sort of in "Ever After". [[spoiler:She died in Series 3, but Dorian meets a woman who looks just like her and claiming to be his mother. It's unclear whether she was a creation of Lucifer, or if Dorian is genuinely crazy and that woman was the real mother of Charlie White.]]
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* TheBusCameBack: Sort of in "Ever After". [[spoiler:Dorian meets someone he becomes convinced is Brennan, but it's revealed that he's actually another patient at the institution he's stuck in. It's unclear whether he was really Brennan, a creation of Lucifer, or just a normal patient going along with Dorian's fantasies.]]
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* TheBusCameBack: BackForTheFinale: Sort of in "Ever After". [[spoiler:Dorian meets someone he becomes convinced is Brennan, but it's revealed that he's actually another patient at the institution he's stuck in. It's unclear whether he was really Brennan, a creation of Lucifer, or just a normal patient going along with Dorian's fantasies.]]
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* TheBusCameBack: Sort of in "Ever After". [[spoiler:Gray appears as Dorian's therapist, but it's unclear whether he's a creation of Lucifer, a manifestation of his portrait, or is a real person trying to treat a very delusional Charlie White.]]
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* TheBusCameBack: BackForTheFinale: Sort of in "Ever After". [[spoiler:Gray appears as Dorian's therapist, but it's unclear whether he's a creation of Lucifer, a manifestation of his portrait, or is a real person trying to treat a very delusional Charlie White.]]
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* TheCameo: Implied, as in "Ever After" Dorian is trapped in an asylum where everyone looks like people he knows and he mention talking to someone named Luke.
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* TheBusCameBack: Sort of. She first appeared in Series 2, but returned in Series 5 in "The Valley of Nightmares", which has her recall another adventure she had with Dorian.
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* TheBusCameBack: Sort of. She first appeared in Series 2, but returned in Series 5 in "The Valley of Nightmares", which has her recall another adventure she had with Dorian.
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** In "Before Your Eyes" it's hinted that he's older than he was in the audios, with the short film presumably being set in 2022. Since he states that his portrait was made over 150 years ago, that would suggest it happened on the late 1860s or possibly earlier, but the audios established he was born in 1862 and his portrait was made in 1880. Since Vlahos himself looks older than he did in the cover art of the audios it can also be assumed that Dorian was in his thirties when he became immortal in the short, so he is at a minimum two decades older than he was in the audios.
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** In "Before ''Before Your Eyes" Eyes'' it's hinted that he's older than he was in the audios, with the short film presumably being set in 2022. Since he states that his portrait was made over 150 years ago, that would suggest it happened on the late 1860s or possibly earlier, but the audios established he was born in 1862 and his portrait was made in 1880. Since Vlahos himself looks older than he did in the cover art of the audios it can also be assumed that Dorian was in his thirties when he became immortal in the short, so he is at a minimum two decades older than he was in the audios.
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* TheBusCameBack: Sort of. [[spoiler:She died in Series 3, but in "Ever After" Dorian meets a woman who looks just like her and claiming to be his mother. It's unclear whether she was a creation of Lucifer, or if Dorian is genuinely crazy and that woman was the real mother of Charlie White.]]
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* TheBusCameBack: Sort of. of in "Ever After". [[spoiler:She died in Series 3, but in "Ever After" Dorian meets a woman who looks just like her and claiming to be his mother. It's unclear whether she was a creation of Lucifer, or if Dorian is genuinely crazy and that woman was the real mother of Charlie White.]]
* TheBusCameBack: Sort of in "Ever After". [[spoiler:Dorian meets someone he becomes convinced is Brennan, but it's revealed that he's actually another patient at the institution he's stuck in. It's unclear whether he was really Brennan, a creation of Lucifer, or just a normal patient going along with Dorian's fantasies.]]
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* TheBusCameBack: Sort of. [[spoiler:In "Ever After", Gray appears as Dorian's therapist. It's unclear whether he's a creation of Lucifer, a manifestation of his portrait, or is a real person trying to treat a very delusional Charlie White.]]
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* TheBusCameBack: Sort of. [[spoiler:In of in "Ever After", Gray After". [[spoiler:Gray appears as Dorian's therapist. It's therapist, but it's unclear whether he's a creation of Lucifer, a manifestation of his portrait, or is a real person trying to treat a very delusional Charlie White.]]
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* UncertainDoom: [[spoiler:"Ever After" has him visit Dorian in the mental institution and Dorian notices vampire bite marks on his neck, which Simon claims is from a lover. Dorian comes to the conclusion that Simon is actually seeing Lucifer in Toby's body, who is trying to manipulate him to make sure Simon can't help Dorian, though given the implication that Dorian might just be an delusional man this is questionable,]]
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: The Lost is never brought up again after its first appearance and [[spoiler:it's unclear whether the souls were freed after Dorian destroyed his portrait. If they were then it remains unclear what happened after Dorian came back]].
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: The Lost is never brought up neve appear again after its their first appearance and [[spoiler:it's unclear whether the souls were freed after Dorian destroyed his portrait. If they were then it remains unclear what happened after Dorian came back]]. Though it's possible that the cocaine demon from "The Fallen King of London", which was in Series 1, was also the Lost. They do reappear in "Ever After", but given the context of the audio it's unclear whether Dorian simply hallucinated them or [[spoiler:they were a creation of Lucifer]].
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* TheBusCameBack: Sort of. [[spoiler:In "Ever After", Gray appears as Dorian's therapist. It's unclear whether he's a creation of Lucifer, a manifestation of his portrait, or is a real person trying to treat a very delusional Charlie White.]]
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* TheBusCameBack: Sort of. [[spoiler:She died in Series 3, but in "Ever After" Dorian meets a woman who looks just like her and claiming to be his mother. It's unclear whether she was a creation of Lucifer, or if Dorian is genuinely crazy and that woman was the real mother of Charlie White.]]
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* MyGreatestFailure: [[spoiler:Killing Dora became this for Dorian, which is why he became desperate to save in "All Through The House".]]
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* TheBusCameBack: Possibly. [[spoiler:Her soul might have appeared at the Brigadoon Hotel, but she also might have been a manipulation by Lucifer.]]
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* TheBusCameBack: Possibly. [[spoiler:Her soul might have appeared at the Brigadoon Hotel, in the form of several different women, but she also might have been a manipulation by Lucifer.]]
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* TheAntichrist: Not literally, but [[spoiler:"All Through The House" reveals that the Lowell Foundation knew that Lucifer was trapped in the Brigadoon Hotel and were aware that Dorian was the perfect vessel that Lucifer could use to escape, which is why they wanted to find a way to kill him]]. [[spoiler:This ends up happening, but not in the way they expected as Lucifer instead escapes by taking over Toby's body.]]
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* AmbiguousSituation: It's unclear whether the Dorian in the ''Confessions'' series is the same character that appeared in ''Literature/BerniceSummerfield''. The creators have always treated ''Confessions'' as being standalone and Series 5 [[spoiler:ended with Dorian seemingly dying for good]]. With "The Worlds of Big Finish" crossover, it's unclear which Dorian it's following, since the story would suggest it's about the Whoniverse Dorian but a writer for the series said that Irs Wildthyme was travelling between the Whoniverse and the ''Confessions'' universe. On the other hand, there are some references in the series to "Shades of Gray" and [[spoiler:his death in Series 5 was seemingly undone with "Isolation"]], suggesting he could become the Whoniverse Dorian.
* TheAntichrist: Not literally, but [[spoiler:"All Through The House" reveals that the Lowell Foundation knew that Lucifer was trapped in the Brigadoon Hotel and were aware that Dorian was the perfect vessel that Lucifer could use to escape, which is why they wanted to find a way to kill him]]. [[spoiler:This ends up happening, but not in the way they expected as Lucifer instead escapes by taking over Toby'sbody.body, as his resurrection in Series 3 made him the perfect vessel.]]
* TheAntichrist: Not literally, but [[spoiler:"All Through The House" reveals that the Lowell Foundation knew that Lucifer was trapped in the Brigadoon Hotel and were aware that Dorian was the perfect vessel that Lucifer could use to escape, which is why they wanted to find a way to kill him]]. [[spoiler:This ends up happening, but not in the way they expected as Lucifer instead escapes by taking over Toby's
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* TheSoulless: {{Subverted|Trope}} and discussed deeply. Dorian often states that he doesn't have a soul, or that his soul doesn't belong to him, and he does have some similarities with the trope. However, Dorian is capable of caring for others and showing compassion, and a big distinction is made between his sins, which his portrait suffers, and his regrets, which Dorian constantly gains as time goes on. [[spoiler:"All Through The House" has his soul returned to him and "Ever After" has him deal with the consequences of it.]]
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* TheSoulless: {{Subverted|Trope}} and discussed deeply. Dorian often states that he doesn't have a soul, or that his soul doesn't belong to him, and he does have some similarities with the trope. However, Dorian is capable of caring for others and showing compassion, and a big distinction is made between his sins, which his portrait suffers, and his regrets, which Dorian constantly gains as time goes on. [[spoiler:"All Through The House" has his soul returned to him and "Ever After" has him deal with the consequences of it.it, as it's revealed that the return of his soul means he can't handle the emotional pain of the life he's had.]]