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* LaserGuidedKarma: Suffers the consequences of his actions regularly.
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* LaserGuidedKarma: Suffers the consequences of his actions regularly. Primarily during Season 3 where his decision to get legally emancipated and drop out of high school due to Eric's ill-advised proposition of a job offer lands him in a terrible job in Alaska where he suffers wage abuse from his boss and humiliations far worse than his time in Marlin Academy.
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* EveryoneHasStandards: He refused to fight against his boss, Lavernia, because he wouldn't hit a woman -- [[spoiler:until she ended up mocking his mother (or rather, insinuated he was a momma's boy). He then fights back and the fight ended with a draw]].
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* EveryoneHasStandards: He refused to fight against his boss, Lavernia, because he wouldn't hit a woman -- [[spoiler:until she ended up mocking his mother (or rather, insinuated he was a momma's boy). He then fights back and the fight ended with a draw]]. He's also shown to generally have a pretty anti-racist streak, showing annoyance at his cabinmates casual disregard for Native culture, and for the most part seems to respect women, which is part of why his marriage to Piama works so well despite their FourthDateMarriage status.
* ForeignCultureFetish: Downplayed, but its notable that, when he moved to Alaska, Francis showed a lot of reverence for Native American and Innuit culture despite not actually having much understanding of it (including fasting and meditating before a totem pole that was carved by a local just as a garden decoration because he assumed it had spiritual importance), and after marrying into the culture via Piama, he was quick to embrace 'the tribe' for personal gain by opening a casino in the section of his house that was on tribal land. He also casually expresses disdain for his own working class white culture, seeing it as valueless in comparison. Piama calls him out on it, and seems uncomfortable with him trying to appropriate the culture that she herself doesn't really embrace much.
* ForeignCultureFetish: Downplayed, but its notable that, when he moved to Alaska, Francis showed a lot of reverence for Native American and Innuit culture despite not actually having much understanding of it (including fasting and meditating before a totem pole that was carved by a local just as a garden decoration because he assumed it had spiritual importance), and after marrying into the culture via Piama, he was quick to embrace 'the tribe' for personal gain by opening a casino in the section of his house that was on tribal land. He also casually expresses disdain for his own working class white culture, seeing it as valueless in comparison. Piama calls him out on it, and seems uncomfortable with him trying to appropriate the culture that she herself doesn't really embrace much.
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* JerkassHasAPoint: While it's no excuse for his behavior, about 80% of the time his criticism of the family's dysfunctional dynamic is correct. Which is more often than even the show gives him credit for. In one example, he called out Hal and Lois for allowing Reese to move out despite the fact that he was underage, believing that Reese was being kicked out like Francis. This argument actually caused Hal and Lois to go to therapy to reevaluate their parenting skills.
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* JerkassHasAPoint: JerkassHasAPoint:
** While it's no excuse for his behavior, about 80% of the time his criticism of the family's dysfunctional dynamic is correct. Which is more often than even the show gives him credit for. In one example, he called out Hal and Lois for allowing Reese to move out despite the fact that he was underage, believing that Reese was being kicked out like Francis. This argument actually caused Hal and Lois to go to therapy to reevaluate their parentingskills.skills.
** It's pretty clear that, while he might have [[NeverMyFault issues with putting all the blame for his life's problems on Lois and never accepting his own guilt]], he's clearly not wrong that her parenting ''screwed him up'' and was ''not'' beneficial for him in the slightest. Putting aside just how much he shows far greater maturity and responds better to much more even handed authority figures like Otto, Gretchen, and even Hal, but its pretty clear that Lois' extreme and abusive treatment created a toxic cycle where Francis was acting out in defiance of her harsh treatment, prompting her to treat him worse, prompting him to rebel even more, and this cycle clearly repeats itself with the other brothers. Considering how we see her treat Malcolm (who, while no angel, has oftentimes been punished severely by Lois for minor infractions, such as publicly embarrassing him for having a small stain on his pocket from what's clearly a leaking pen which directly led to him attempting to perform a similar act of delinquency as what Francis did), it's pretty clear that if Lois wasn't so extreme with her parenting the boys wouldn't be as screwed up as they are.
** While it's no excuse for his behavior, about 80% of the time his criticism of the family's dysfunctional dynamic is correct. Which is more often than even the show gives him credit for. In one example, he called out Hal and Lois for allowing Reese to move out despite the fact that he was underage, believing that Reese was being kicked out like Francis. This argument actually caused Hal and Lois to go to therapy to reevaluate their parenting
** It's pretty clear that, while he might have [[NeverMyFault issues with putting all the blame for his life's problems on Lois and never accepting his own guilt]], he's clearly not wrong that her parenting ''screwed him up'' and was ''not'' beneficial for him in the slightest. Putting aside just how much he shows far greater maturity and responds better to much more even handed authority figures like Otto, Gretchen, and even Hal, but its pretty clear that Lois' extreme and abusive treatment created a toxic cycle where Francis was acting out in defiance of her harsh treatment, prompting her to treat him worse, prompting him to rebel even more, and this cycle clearly repeats itself with the other brothers. Considering how we see her treat Malcolm (who, while no angel, has oftentimes been punished severely by Lois for minor infractions, such as publicly embarrassing him for having a small stain on his pocket from what's clearly a leaking pen which directly led to him attempting to perform a similar act of delinquency as what Francis did), it's pretty clear that if Lois wasn't so extreme with her parenting the boys wouldn't be as screwed up as they are.
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* BerserkButton: Do NOT try to evict her from her home, or treat Francis badly.
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* BerserkButton: Do NOT try to evict her from her home, or treat Francis badly. And while she handles it with TranquilFury, she doesn't like it when Francis starts appropriating her native culture for personal profit.
* BirdsOfAFeather: Possibly why her and Francis fell in love so quickly, both had difficult childhoods including terrible relationships with their opposite sex parent figure, and a willingness to break the law, but are ultimately good people to those who treat them well.
* CharacterisationMarchesOn: Her HairTriggerTemper seems to fade over time, and her relationship with Francis goes from LikeParentLikeSpouse to her being more soft and supportive. Also while in her first appearance she was shown not taking Lois' crap and standing up to her, she becomes more of a doormat in later appearances, taking Lois' barbs with silent acceptance until eventually hitting a breaking point when she makes a remark at the wrong time.
* BirdsOfAFeather: Possibly why her and Francis fell in love so quickly, both had difficult childhoods including terrible relationships with their opposite sex parent figure, and a willingness to break the law, but are ultimately good people to those who treat them well.
* CharacterisationMarchesOn: Her HairTriggerTemper seems to fade over time, and her relationship with Francis goes from LikeParentLikeSpouse to her being more soft and supportive. Also while in her first appearance she was shown not taking Lois' crap and standing up to her, she becomes more of a doormat in later appearances, taking Lois' barbs with silent acceptance until eventually hitting a breaking point when she makes a remark at the wrong time.
* DarkAndTroubledPast: It's not delved into too much, but her childhood isn't too dissimilar to Francis and his siblings, having had a crappy relationship with her parents, being kicked out as a teenager, and already having an ex-husband (who is now in jail) before she'd even come of age.
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* HairTriggerTemper: Just like Lois, she can be pretty scary when she is pissed off. Lavernia finds out when Piama kidnaps her parakeet and threats to not return it until she treats Francis better.
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* HairTriggerTemper: Just like Lois, she can be pretty scary when she is pissed off. Lavernia finds out when Piama kidnaps her parakeet and threats to not return it until she treats Francis better. She also at one point gets arrested for breaking a police officer's jaw when they patronised her while trying to evict her from her home.
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* PintsizedPowerhouse: Piama is tiny, being visibly shorter than Francis' teenaged brothers, but she's also got a fiery temper and not afraid to get into a fight with a much larger male police officer, one that ends with her arrested but unharmed while the officer had to have his jaw wired shut.
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* TheUnfavorite:
** Despite being the family prodigy, he's often treated this way due to Lois' belief that Malcolm is both too smart to be behaving the way he does and so warrants much harsher punishments than the other brothers get for similar behavior, and that he's smart enough to cope with the unfairness of life in a way his brothers couldn't. Downplayed with Hal, who doesn't show Malcolm any unfairness but clearly favours Dewey given the number of their B-plots together.
** He's also this among his brothers, particularly Francis. While Dewey is early on treated as an AnnoyingYoungerSibling by himself and Reese, over time Reese and Dewey, Francis and Dewey, and Dewey and Jamie have many B-plots together compared to how many times they spend one-on-one with Malcolm, and its revealed at one point that Francis often takes the other two out for events where they don't invite Malcolm. Likewise, Francis has shown a tendency to call Malcolm out on his shit that he doesn't show to his other brothers, expressing that the other brothers feel they need to have space from Malcolm sometimes because of his InsufferableGenius tendencies get too much, dismisses his angst over this as simply having a bruised ego, and gives him a lot of shit about cheating with Reese's girlfriend.
** Despite being the family prodigy, he's often treated this way due to Lois' belief that Malcolm is both too smart to be behaving the way he does and so warrants much harsher punishments than the other brothers get for similar behavior, and that he's smart enough to cope with the unfairness of life in a way his brothers couldn't. Downplayed with Hal, who doesn't show Malcolm any unfairness but clearly favours Dewey given the number of their B-plots together.
** He's also this among his brothers, particularly Francis. While Dewey is early on treated as an AnnoyingYoungerSibling by himself and Reese, over time Reese and Dewey, Francis and Dewey, and Dewey and Jamie have many B-plots together compared to how many times they spend one-on-one with Malcolm, and its revealed at one point that Francis often takes the other two out for events where they don't invite Malcolm. Likewise, Francis has shown a tendency to call Malcolm out on his shit that he doesn't show to his other brothers, expressing that the other brothers feel they need to have space from Malcolm sometimes because of his InsufferableGenius tendencies get too much, dismisses his angst over this as simply having a bruised ego, and gives him a lot of shit about cheating with Reese's girlfriend.
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* HeroicSacrifice: A very downplayed example given they're high schoolers, but in order to stop Malcolm from doing something stupid to get himself sent to military school after Lois humiliated him on the first day of high school, she sacrifices her own social standing by purposely implying loudly that they'd had sex, [[DoubleStandard allowing his own social status to recover while her own is tanked]], smirking knowingly while everyone is calling her a slut.
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Crippled kids are off-limits for his bullying as per usual for the bullies at Malcolm's school, when Stevie pretends to have been hurt by his punch, his reputation goes down in flames.
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Crippled kids are off-limits for his bullying as per usual for the bullies at Malcolm's school, when Stevie pretends to have been hurt by his punch, his reputation goes down in flames.flames and gets implicitly expelled for it.
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* HateSink: The vast majority of them are emotionally abusive, cruel and spiteful towards Lois going as far as keeping her out of the extended family photo by giving her a bunch of wild goose chases and mocking her when she cries over realizing how badly she's gotten screwed over. This makes Malcolm and the boys' subsequent destruction of their party all the more satisfying.
* ObnoxiousInLaws: Most of them are unpleasant and spiteful towards Lois for no reason beyond the fact that they can.
* TokenGoodTeammate: The little cousins who Francis bonds with are the only members of the family to not be portrayed as cruel towards Lois and help out the boys in ruining the party for the rest of the family.
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[[folder:"La Vaca Diablo"]]
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* ObnoxiousInLaws: Most of them are unpleasant and spiteful towards Lois for no reason beyond the fact that they can.
* TokenGoodTeammate: The little cousins who Francis bonds with are the only members of the family to not be portrayed as cruel towards Lois and help out the boys in ruining the party for the rest of the family.
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* HandicappedBadass: He started out [[DisabledMeansHelpless as quite innocent and helpless]] but as the series progresses he becomes much more confident. He joined the school's wheelchair basketball team, uses his wheelchair as a weapon against bullies (by running them over), and was revealed as a mystery badass street racer in one episode. Interestingly, a lot of this takes place after his Mom leaves, suggesting it was her over-protectiveness that made him underconfident.
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* HandicappedBadass: He started out [[DisabledMeansHelpless as quite innocent and helpless]] but as the series progresses he becomes much more confident. He joined the school's wheelchair basketball team, uses his wheelchair as a weapon against bullies (by running them over), and was revealed as a mystery badass street racer in one episode. Interestingly, a lot of this takes place after his Mom mom leaves, suggesting it was her over-protectiveness that made him underconfident.
* TookALevelInBadass: He becomes more and more confident as the series goes on and begins to take fearlessly on dangerous challenges and standing up for himself with more ease.
Francis' best friend at Marlin, and often his voice of reason.
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* HypocriticalHumor: He once berated Francis for being too dumb at times... Right before dumping a whole cannister of fuel into his garbage can bonfire.
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* TooDumbToLive: He's even dumber than Reese, and so are his friends.
* ToxicFriendInfluence: To Francis, according to Lois. Lois isn't always the most reliable source but with his sleazy laziness, Richie certainly seems like any behavior or morals he would have imparted on his friends would be negative.
* ToxicFriendInfluence: To Francis, according to Lois. Lois isn't always the most reliable source but with his sleazy laziness, Richie certainly seems like any behavior or morals he would have imparted on his friends would be negative.
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* TooDumbToLive: He's even dumber than Reese, and so are his friends.
friends. It's a miracle his stupidity didn't get him killed when he dropped a whole fuel canister into his bonfire while he was point-blank at the explosion.
* ToxicFriendInfluence: To Francis, according to Lois. Lois isn't always the most reliable source but with his sleazy laziness, Richie certainly seems like any behavior or morals he would have imparted on his friends would be negative. It's notable that once Francis stops being into contact with Richie after season 3 he significantly improves his behavior.
* ToxicFriendInfluence: To Francis, according to Lois. Lois isn't always the most reliable source but with his sleazy laziness, Richie certainly seems like any behavior or morals he would have imparted on his friends would be negative. It's notable that once Francis stops being into contact with Richie after season 3 he significantly improves his behavior.
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* WildChild: When Dewey gets transferred to a normal classroom, the kids scape their homes and start living in the trees of Dewey's block. Some of them even start behaving like monkeys.
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* WildChild: When Dewey gets transferred to a normal classroom, the kids scape escape their homes and start living in the trees of Dewey's block. Some of them even start behaving like monkeys.
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* ArchEnemy: While most of the family hates her in the way one would a difficult relative, she and Francis are comic-book-level rivals; in the finale, Francis nearly kills her and she [[BringIt goads him into the fight]]. It's implied this happens often.
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* ArchEnemy: While most of the family hates her in the way one would a difficult relative, she and Francis are comic-book-level rivals; in the finale, Francis nearly kills her and she [[BringIt goads him into the fight]]. It's implied this happens often.often and she gives as good as she gets physically such as stabbing him in the leg.
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* EvilOldFolks: Ida is a sinister old grandmother willing to sue her own family or to drug a man into marrying her. Her own daughter and grandchildren call her a monster.
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* EvilOldFolks: Ida is a sinister old grandmother willing to sue her own family or to drug a man into marrying her. Her own daughter and grandchildren call her a monster.monster and when Lois has to take care of her after she loses a leg, Hal shows more sympathy for Lois due to having to take care of her horrible mother.
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* {{Jerkass}}: He was just as bad as his wife.wife, insulting every living being in his vicinity and being careless enough to endanger his own family.
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** While Victor showed great disdain for Malcolm, considering him to be a "sissy", he took a liking towards Reese, largely because Reese shared his jerkish and violent sociopathic tendencies.
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** While Victor showed great disdain for Malcolm, considering him to be a "sissy", he took a liking towards Reese, largely because Reese shared his jerkish and violent sociopathic tendencies. Even gifting him a genuine grenade, though that one ended up badly.
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* TooDumbToLive: Show Reese his war kit, with a real grenade inside it without any caution or security, guess what happens next.
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* TooDumbToLive: Show Reese his war kit, with a real grenade inside it without any caution or security, guess what happens next.Reese predictably almost gets them all killed when he pulls the pin without realizing it and they have to throw it in the fridge quickly, so it doesn't kill them both.
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* AbusiveParent: Not in the physical or verbal way, but the fact that he never accommodated to Hal's emotional needs, instead dodging any uncomfortable topics with humor and tickling.
* BusCrash: In "Hal Grieves." He dies offscreen and his death becomes the kickstarter for the plot.
* BusCrash: In "Hal Grieves." He dies offscreen and his death becomes the kickstarter for the plot.
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* AbusiveParent: Not in the physical or verbal way, but the fact that he never accommodated to Hal's emotional needs, instead dodging any uncomfortable topics with humor and tickling.
tickling makes him an emotional example. His death even caused Hal to be easily manipulated by his sons into doing them outrageous favors out of fear of history repeating itself with them and their bond.
* BusCrash: In "Hal Grieves." He dies offscreen and his death becomes the kickstarter for theplot.plot as Hal's grief makes him vulnerable to being manipulated by his sons in a misguided attempt to be closer to them unlike his father was with him.
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** The main reason she doesn't want to leave Alaska, despite hating her town and having no connection to her roots, is because she is afraid of not knowing what is outside. She and Francis decide to leave when she accepts a huge settlement for her house.
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* ViolentlyProtectiveGirlfriend: At one point, she suggests (half-jokingly/half-seriously) she'll stab Lavernia to death for being a BadBoss to Francis and steals Lavernia's beloved pet parakeet as revenge.
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* ViolentlyProtectiveGirlfriend: At one point, she suggests (half-jokingly/half-seriously) she'll stab Lavernia to death for being a BadBoss to Francis and steals Lavernia's beloved pet parakeet as revenge.revenge to get her to treat Francis better. She also dumps a bucket of water on Lois for insulting Francis.
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* AmbiguousSituation: After Lois finds out that she isn't Victor's biological daughter because Ida cheated on him ''a lot'', Lois asks about Susan. Ida only replies "anything is possible".
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* AmbiguousSituation: AmbiguouslyRelated: After Lois finds out that she isn't Victor's biological daughter because Ida cheated on him ''a lot'', Lois asks about Susan. Ida only replies "anything is possible".
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* TyrantTakesTheHelm: When he gets put in charge of the Lucky Aide during the night shift.
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* TyrantTakesTheHelm: When he gets put in charge of the Lucky Aide during the night shift.shift he becomes a tyrannical boss who drives all his employees insane. It leads to Hal helping overthrow him.
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* MyBelovedSmother: Kitty was this to Stevie initially, putting him to bed at absurdly early hours and sheltering him. That is until she leaves him and Abe.
* ParentalAbandonment: When she divorced Abe and abruptly left the family after the third season. She eventually returns.
* ParentalAbandonment: When she divorced Abe and abruptly left the family after the third season. She eventually returns.
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* MyBelovedSmother: Kitty was this to Stevie initially, putting him to bed at absurdly early hours and sheltering him. That is until she becomes nastier then leaves him and Abe.
Abe to live a life of hedonism.
* ParentalAbandonment: When she divorced Abe and abruptly left the family after the thirdseason.season to live out a life of hedonism. She eventually returns.
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* BadBoss: She not only works all of her employees like dogs but also charges them high fees for rent and other basic amenities (such as bedding and hot water) and will ''deduct money from their paychecks'' when they fail to keep up with it. She does this on purpose so they have to stay and work for her until they pay her off, which she makes sure they can't do until the logging is finished.
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* BadBoss: She not only works all of her employees like dogs but also charges them high fees for rent and other basic amenities (such as bedding and hot water) and will ''deduct money from their paychecks'' when they fail to keep up with it. She does this on purpose so they have to stay and work for her until they pay her off, which she makes sure they can't do until the logging is finished.finished at which that point she immediately lays off everybody without any prior warning.
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* HateSink: Spangler was a pretty bad guy towards Francis but he had his reasons for it and in the end grew to respect Francis for his defiant and rebellious attitude. Lavernia has not a single ounce of respect towards Francis, abuses all her workers and spends her entire screentime making everyone else miserable for either the slightest or no reason at all.
