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* BigBadWannabe: In the grand scheme of things, Thordan's plan to become a god is ultimately irrelevant. He initially seems like quite the threat, accruing a huge amount of power and even avoiding being an UnwittingPawn of the Ascians by recognizing what they were up to, beating Lahabrea at his own game and stabbing the Ascian in the back before he could do the same to Thordan. Thus, Thordan ends up dispatching Lahabrea and acquiring all the power he was after. And yet, it all amounts to nothing, as Thordan and his Knights Twelve are killed by the Warrior of Light just a few minutes later. At the end of his life, Thordan is incredulous that even after all the pieces he put in place to ensure his dominance as God-King Thordan -- the eyes of two dragons, a thousand years of prayer, and his Knights Twelve backing him up in battle as the Knights of the Round primal -- Thordan was basically brushed aside by the Warrior of Light. After the Warrior puts him down, Thordan's presence is missed by few, and it matters very little in the long run against the Ascians' plans.

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* BigBadWannabe: In the grand scheme of things, Thordan's plan to become a god is ultimately irrelevant. He initially seems like quite the threat, accruing a huge amount of power and even avoiding being an UnwittingPawn of the Ascians by recognizing what they were up to, beating Lahabrea at his own game and stabbing the Ascian in the back before he could do the same to Thordan. Thus, Thordan ends up dispatching Lahabrea and acquiring all the power he was after. And yet, Yet it all amounts to nothing, as Thordan and his Knights Twelve are killed by the Warrior of Light just a few minutes later. At the end of his life, [[ThisCannotBe Thordan is incredulous incredulous]] that even after with all the pieces he put in place to ensure his dominance as God-King Thordan -- the eyes of two dragons, a thousand years of prayer, and his Knights Twelve backing him up in battle as the Knights of the Round primal -- Thordan was basically brushed aside by the Warrior of Light. After the Warrior puts him down, Thordan's Thordan DisappearsIntoLight, his presence is missed by few, and it he matters very little in the long run against the Ascians' plans.run.



* VillainHasAPoint: Thordan believes that admitting the truth behind the Dragonsong War would be pointless and futile, a vain attempt to placate [[UnstoppableRage an implacable enemy]], and could threaten to bring about societal collapse in Ishgard. Thordan also tells Aymeric that their people shouldn't be made to answer for [[SinsOfOurFathers the sins of their long-dead ancestors]], and even asks an ArmorPiercingQuestion of what Aymeric intends to say to people who would have to be told that the sacrifices of their loved ones were AllForNothing. Aymeric has difficulty arguing with Thordan on these points, despite firmly believing that the truth needs to come out to bring an end to the CycleOfRevenge. While the issues end up forced by both Thordan and Nidhogg making their respective moves, the Archbishop proves to be right on all counts, and cleaning up the giant mess left in their wake is a long and delicate process.

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* VillainHasAPoint: Thordan believes says to Aymeric that admitting the truth AwfulTruth behind the Dragonsong War would be pointless and futile, pointless, a vain attempt to placate [[UnstoppableRage an implacable enemy]], and could threaten to bring about societal collapse in Ishgard. Thordan also tells Aymeric that their people shouldn't be made to answer for [[SinsOfOurFathers the sins of their long-dead ancestors]], and even asks an ArmorPiercingQuestion of what Aymeric intends to say to people who would have to be told that the sacrifices of their loved ones were AllForNothing. Even though Thordan is saying all of these things to [[AGodAmI get Aymeric to back off and allow Thordan to further his own plans to become a god]], Aymeric has difficulty arguing with to admit that what Thordan on these points, despite firmly believing that the truth needs to come out to bring an end to the CycleOfRevenge. said wasn't incorrect. While the issues end up forced by both Thordan and Nidhogg making their respective moves, the Archbishop proves to be right on all counts, and cleaning up the giant mess left in their the wake of the CycleOfRevenge between the dragons and Ishgard is a long and delicate process.
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* BigBadWannabe: In the grand scheme of things, Thordan is ultimately irrelevant. He initially seems like quite the threat, having some far reaching plans that involve accruing a huge amount of power and he even avoids being an UnwittingPawn of the Ascians. But his plans work, dispatching Lahabrea and acquiring all the power he was after... then gets immediately defeated and killed by the Warrior of Light. At the end, he's incredulous that even after all the pieces he put in place to ensure his dominance as God-King Thordan -- the eyes of two dragons, a thousand years of prayer, and his Knights Twelve backing him up in battle -- Thordan still can't contend with the Warrior of Light. After the Warrior puts him down, Thordan's presence is missed by few, and it matters very little in the long run against the Ascians' plans.

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* BigBadWannabe: In the grand scheme of things, Thordan Thordan's plan to become a god is ultimately irrelevant. He initially seems like quite the threat, having some far reaching plans that involve accruing a huge amount of power and he even avoids avoiding being an UnwittingPawn of the Ascians. But Ascians by recognizing what they were up to, beating Lahabrea at his plans work, own game and stabbing the Ascian in the back before he could do the same to Thordan. Thus, Thordan ends up dispatching Lahabrea and acquiring all the power he was after... then gets immediately defeated after. And yet, it all amounts to nothing, as Thordan and his Knights Twelve are killed by the Warrior of Light. Light just a few minutes later. At the end, he's end of his life, Thordan is incredulous that even after all the pieces he put in place to ensure his dominance as God-King Thordan -- the eyes of two dragons, a thousand years of prayer, and his Knights Twelve backing him up in battle as the Knights of the Round primal -- Thordan still can't contend with was basically brushed aside by the Warrior of Light. After the Warrior puts him down, Thordan's presence is missed by few, and it matters very little in the long run against the Ascians' plans.

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