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Also from the examples I gather the definitions between the three groups are rather vague.
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It\'s just plain not part of the definition of StealthExpert. A StealthExpert is \
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It\\\'s just plain not part of the definition of StealthExpert. A StealthExpert is \\\"a guy who\\\'s good at stealth.\\\" Full stop.
I don\\\'t disagree with you that \\\'\\\'often\\\'\\\', as a part of game balance, a character who is an expert at stealth is also made either squishy or poor at dealing damage outside of stealth, but it\\\'s not universally the case and it\\\'s not part of the definition of the trope.
There are, for example, plenty of single-player stealth games like \\\'\\\'VideoGame/{{Dishonored}}\\\'\\\' in which the player character is more than capable in combat outside of stealth. In these cases, CompetitiveBalance is not an issue because there are no other player characters to be competitive \\\'\\\'against\\\'\\\'.
There are also plenty of non-gameplay examples like Franchise/{{Batman}}. Batman is undeniably a StealthExpert; he is also a master of hand-to-hand combat. Depending on the setting and continuity, sometimes he\\\'s relatively squishy (compared to a powered hero like Superman, for example) and sometimes he\\\'s not (in \\\'\\\'Film/BatmanBegins\\\'\\\', for example, where he wears bulletproof body armor and nobody has superpowers). Being stealthy is a core part of his character; squishiness or lack of offense is not.
Now, I think that the concept of \\\"sneaky but squishy\\\" and/or \\\"sneaky but weak\\\" is probably tropable, but you can\\\'t just redefine an existing trope that way by fiat. You\\\'d need to either create a new trope in YKTTW, or take the existing trope to TRS to redefine it. Personally, I\\\'d be in favor of the latter, since as of right now StealthExpert is kind of under-defined and plagued by {{Zero Context Example}}s. Also, it doesn\\\'t seem to be very well distinguished from TheSneakyGuy, which has a lot of the same problems, so they could probably both stand to be redefined in relation to one another.
I don\\\'t disagree with you that \\\'\\\'often\\\'\\\', as a part of game balance, a character who is an expert at stealth is also made either squishy or poor at dealing damage outside of stealth, but it\\\'s not universally the case and it\\\'s not part of the definition of the trope.
There are, for example, plenty of single-player stealth games like \\\'\\\'VideoGame/{{Dishonored}}\\\'\\\' in which the player character is more than capable in combat outside of stealth. In these cases, CompetitiveBalance is not an issue because there are no other player characters to be competitive \\\'\\\'against\\\'\\\'.
There are also plenty of non-gameplay examples like Franchise/{{Batman}}. Batman is undeniably a StealthExpert; he is also a master of hand-to-hand combat. Depending on the setting and continuity, sometimes he\\\'s relatively squishy (compared to a powered hero like Superman, for example) and sometimes he\\\'s not (in \\\'\\\'Film/BatmanBegins\\\'\\\', for example, where he wears bulletproof body armor and nobody has superpowers). Being stealthy is a core part of his character; squishiness or lack of offense is not.
Now, I think that the concept of \\\"sneaky but squishy\\\" and/or \\\"sneaky but weak\\\" is probably tropable, but you can\\\'t just redefine an existing trope that way by fiat. You\\\'d need to either create a new trope in YKTTW, or take the existing trope to TRS to redefine it. Personally, I\\\'d be in favor of the latter, since as of right now StealthExpert is kind of under-defined and plagued by {{Zero Context Example}}s. Also, it doesn\\\'t seem to be very well distinguished from TheSneakyGuy, which has a lot of the same problems, so they could probably both stand to be redefined in relation to one another.
