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2nd Jul '10 at 05:03:07 AM

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ETA: [[hottip:*:I re-read and realised I was missing my most important argument. FAIL!]] Taking away representation from a minority that\\\'s already under represented is \\\'\\\'not diversity\\\'\\\'. If MNS really wanted to present everyone, he could have made a much better effort, like making the Fire Nation white (WHAT A TWEEST!). Instead he cut out Inuit tribes, possible the LEAST represented race in Hollywood ever.

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This film was an opportunity to launch Asian stars, to give Asian-American kids heroes to relate to; to let them have an idol they can recognise, and celebrate their own culture that had been subject to exoticism, white-washing and exploitation by Hollywood. And it failed to give every. Single. Opportunity.

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Why do you think Joss Whedon got so much shit for his Invisible Asians on \\\'\\\'Firefly\\\'\\\'? He packed his \\\'verse full of Asian culture but then the only Asian character to get a speaking line was a whore. It\\\'s like Ayries said, it\\\'s extremely dehumanising for us. They\\\'re taking the culture and history and praising it, but only with the condition that it doesn\\\'t have non-white people along with it.

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The Fire Nation is not presented to us as the good guys the same way that the Gaang are presented as the good guys; they\'re quite clearly the antagonists lead by a CompleteMonster BigBad. It\'s about what\'s right there on the screen, not about what they\'re capable of in-show or the subtle reading between the lines. (And frankly, MNS has about as much subtlety as a brick to the face).

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The Fire Nation is not presented to us as the good guys the same way that the Gaang are presented as the good guys; they\\\'re quite clearly the antagonists lead by a CompleteMonster BigBad. It\\\'s about what\\\'s right there on the screen, not about what they\\\'re capable of in-show or the subtle reading between the lines. (And frankly, MNS has about as much subtlety as a brick to the face). HeelFaceTurn or not, Zuko is not someone we\\\'re supposed to relate to and emphasize with.

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Why do you think Joss Whedon got so much heat for his Invisible Asians on \'\'Firefly\'\'? He packed his \'verse full of Asian culture but then the only Asian character to get a speaking line was a whore. It\'s like Ayries said, it\'s extremely dehumanising for us. They\'re taking the culture and history and praising it, but only with the condition that it doesn\'t have non-white people along with it.

Count the Asians that have had an important, non-stereotyped, well-developed protagonist role in all history Hollywood. It was one of the few chances where an Asian actor/actress could play the hero for once, but apparently not even in a film that\'s crammed with their own culture can they get that role.

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Count the Asians that have had a main role as an important, non-stereotyped, well-developed protagonist in all history TV and movies. It was one of the few chances where an Asian actor/actress could play the hero for once, but apparently not even in a film that\\\'s crammed with their own culture can they get that role.

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The Fire Nation is not presented to us as the good guys the same way that the Gaang are presented as the good guys; they\'re quite clearly the antagonists lead by a CompleteMonster BigBag. It\'s about what\'s right there on the screen, not about what they\'re capable of in-show or the subtle reading between the lines. (And frankly, MNS has about as much subtlety as a brick to the face).

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