Discussion History Main / LightFeminineAndDarkFeminine

* In the episode \\\"Green Isn\\\'t Your Color\\\" of \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic\\\'\\\' we start off by learning that Fluttershy and Rarity spend time together at the spa every week. Rarity talks Fluttershy into modeling for her as a way to further Rarity\\\'s fashion career because nopony is going to have Fluttershy\\\'s elegance and poise. Fluttershy reluctantly agrees at Rarity\\\'s insistence even after Fluttershy isn\\\'t going to be modeling Rarity\\\'s designs. Over time Fluttershy becomes more uncomfortable with the attention but stays with it because she doesn\\\'t want to let Rarity down while Rarity becomes more jealous so much that she wants Fluttershy to fail and by the end they tell each other how they were feeling and strengthen their friendship.

With this reasoning: \\\"There\\\'s no reason to call them the two most feminine characters as if Pinkie Pie isn\\\'t very feminine.The example needs to say what the duo\\\'s relationship is and don\\\'t tell how the examples doesn\\\'t apply as in, \\\"Given the show\\\'s nature, Rarity (dark) can\\\'t actually be devilish or too sexual...\\\" \\\"

So, let\\\'s see.
* \\\"There\\\'s no reason to call them the two most feminine characters as if Pinkie Pie isn\\\'t very feminine.\\\"
** I don\\\'t exactly feel so, but it\\\'s arguable about Pinkie Pie, so I\\\'ll grant this point. (To illustrate my point of view, though: do you think Cheese Sandwich is very feminine? If not, aside from squeaky voice, what\\\'s the difference?)
* \\\"The example needs to say what the duo\\\'s relationship is\\\"
** Which is done in \\\"out of the six main female characters and group of best friends\\\" (and to a lesser extent by pointing out they\\\'re the feminine ones of the bunch).
* \\\"and don\\\'t tell how the examples doesn\\\'t apply as in, \\\"Given the show\\\'s nature, Rarity (dark) can\\\'t actually be devilish or too sexual...\\\"\\\"
** It needs to be said to explain how the trope applies anyway; that\\\'s why I wrote this followed by an explanation of how Rarity is close to those features anyway, relatively speaking. Maybe this needs to be spelled out more, or maybe I should have just written something like \\\"is as close as can be\\\".

Now, for the current edit: Their whole personalities are an example of this trope. This episode doesn\\\'t contain all of it, and as it\\\'s written, the example says kind of irrelevant things.

Rarity actually has that sexuality thing going, in a limited kids\\\' show kind of way. That should be mentioned. Fluttershy is generally nurturing, hence fitting or approximating the love aspect. Without these, with the example as it is, I don\\\'t think it would even fit the trope.

I know I should PM lexicon to notify them about this discussion so that we can actually have a discussion, but I\\\'ll leave that for later when I have the time and energy to get into it. I just wanted to write all this down already.

* In the episode \\\"Green Isn\\\'t Your Color\\\" of \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic\\\'\\\' we start off by learning that Fluttershy and Rarity spend time together at the spa every week. Rarity talks Fluttershy into modeling for her as a way to further Rarity\\\'s fashion career because nopony is going to have Fluttershy\\\'s elegance and poise. Fluttershy reluctantly agrees at Rarity\\\'s insistence even after Fluttershy isn\\\'t going to be modeling Rarity\\\'s designs. Over time Fluttershy becomes more uncomfortable with the attention but stays with it because she doesn\\\'t want to let Rarity down while Rarity becomes more jealous so much that she wants Fluttershy to fail and by the end they tell each other how they were feeling and strengthen their friendship.

With this reasoning: \\\"There\\\'s no reason to call them the two most feminine characters as if Pinkie Pie isn\\\'t very feminine.The example needs to say what the duo\\\'s relationship is and don\\\'t tell how the examples doesn\\\'t apply as in, \\\"Given the show\\\'s nature, Rarity (dark) can\\\'t actually be devilish or too sexual...\\\" \\\"

So, let\\\'s see.
* \\\"There\\\'s no reason to call them the two most feminine characters as if Pinkie Pie isn\\\'t very feminine.\\\"
** I don\\\'t exactly feel so, but it\\\'s arguable about Pinkie Pie, so I\\\'ll grant this point. (To illustrate my point of view, though: do you think Cheese Sandwich is very feminine? If not, aside from squeaky voice, what\\\'s the difference?)
* \\\"The example needs to say what the duo\\\'s relationship is\\\"
** Which is done in \\\"out of the six main female characters and group of best friends\\\" (and to a lesser extent by pointing out they\\\'re the feminine ones of the bunch).
* \\\"and don\\\'t tell how the examples doesn\\\'t apply as in, \\\"Given the show\\\'s nature, Rarity (dark) can\\\'t actually be devilish or too sexual...\\\"\\\"
** It needs to be said to explain how the trope applies anyway; that\\\'s why I wrote this followed by an explanation of how Rarity is close to those features anyway, relatively speaking. Maybe this needs to be spelled out more, or maybe I should have just written something like \\\"is as close as can be\\\".

Now, for the current edit: Their whole personalities are an example of this trope. This episode doesn\\\'t contain all of it, and as it\\\'s written, the example says kind of irrelevant things.

Rarity actually has that sexuality thing going, in a limited kids\\\' show kind of way. That should be mentioned. Fluttershy is generally nurturing, hence fitting or approximating the love aspect. Without these, with the example as it is, I don\\\'t think it would even fit the trope.

I know I should PM lexicon to notify them about this discussion so that we can actually have a discussion, but I\\\'ll leave that for later when I have the time and energy to get into it. I just wanted to write all this down.

* In the episode \\\"Green Isn\\\'t Your Color\\\" of \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic\\\'\\\' we start off by learning that Fluttershy and Rarity spend time together at the spa every week. Rarity talks Fluttershy into modeling for her as a way to further Rarity\\\'s fashion career because nopony is going to have Fluttershy\\\'s elegance and poise. Fluttershy reluctantly agrees at Rarity\\\'s insistence even after Fluttershy isn\\\'t going to be modeling Rarity\\\'s designs. Over time Fluttershy becomes more uncomfortable with the attention but stays with it because she doesn\\\'t want to let Rarity down while Rarity becomes more jealous so much that she wants Fluttershy to fail and by the end they tell each other how they were feeling and strengthen their friendship.

With this reasoning: \\\"There\\\'s no reason to call them the two most feminine characters as if Pinkie Pie isn\\\'t very feminine.The example needs to say what the duo\\\'s relationship is and don\\\'t tell how the examples doesn\\\'t apply as in, \\\"Given the show\\\'s nature, Rarity (dark) can\\\'t actually be devilish or too sexual...\\\" \\\"

So, let\\\'s see.
* \\\"There\\\'s no reason to call them the two most feminine characters as if Pinkie Pie isn\\\'t very feminine.\\\"
** I don\\\'t exactly feel so, but it\\\'s arguable about Pinkie Pie, so I\\\'ll grant this point.
* \\\"The example needs to say what the duo\\\'s relationship is\\\"
** Which is done in \\\"out of the six main female characters and group of best friends\\\" (and to a lesser extent by pointing out they\\\'re the feminine ones of the bunch).
* \\\"and don\\\'t tell how the examples doesn\\\'t apply as in, \\\"Given the show\\\'s nature, Rarity (dark) can\\\'t actually be devilish or too sexual...\\\"\\\"
** It needs to be said to explain how the trope applies anyway; that\\\'s why I wrote this followed by an explanation of how Rarity is close to those features anyway, relatively speaking. Maybe this needs to be spelled out more, or maybe I should have just written something like \\\"is as close as can be\\\".

Now, for the current edit: Their whole personalities are an example of this trope. This episode doesn\\\'t contain all of it, and as it\\\'s written, the example says kind of irrelevant things.

Rarity actually has that sexuality thing going, in a limited kids\\\' show kind of way. That should be mentioned. Fluttershy is generally nurturing, hence fitting or approximating the love aspect. Without these, with the example as it is, I don\\\'t think it would even fit the trope.

I know I should PM lexicon to notify them about this discussion so that we can actually have a discussion, but I\\\'ll leave that for later when I have the time and energy to get into it. I just wanted to write all this down.

* In the episode \\\"Green Isn\\\'t Your Color\\\" of \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic\\\'\\\' we start off by learning that Fluttershy and Rarity spend time together at the spa every week. Rarity talks Fluttershy into modeling for her as a way to further Rarity\\\'s fashion career because nopony is going to have Fluttershy\\\'s elegance and poise. Fluttershy reluctantly agrees at Rarity\\\'s insistence even after Fluttershy isn\\\'t going to be modeling Rarity\\\'s designs. Over time Fluttershy becomes more uncomfortable with the attention but stays with it because she doesn\\\'t want to let Rarity down while Rarity becomes more jealous so much that she wants Fluttershy to fail and by the end they tell each other how they were feeling and strengthen their friendship.

With this reasoning: \\\"There\\\'s no reason to call them the two most feminine characters as if Pinkie Pie isn\\\'t very feminine.The example needs to say what the duo\\\'s relationship is and don\\\'t tell how the examples doesn\\\'t apply as in, \\\"Given the show\\\'s nature, Rarity (dark) can\\\'t actually be devilish or too sexual...\\\" \\\"

So, let\\\'s see.
* \\\"There\\\'s no reason to call them the two most feminine characters as if Pinkie Pie isn\\\'t very feminine.\\\"
** I don\\\'t exactly feel so, but it\\\'s arguable about Pinkie Pie, so I\\\'ll grant this point.
* \\\"The example needs to say what the duo\\\'s relationship is\\\"
** Which is done in \\\"out of the six main female characters and group of best friends\\\" (and to a lesser extent by pointing out they\\\'re the feminine ones of the bunch).
* \\\"and don\\\'t tell how the examples doesn\\\'t apply as in, \\\"Given the show\\\'s nature, Rarity (dark) can\\\'t actually be devilish or too sexual...\\\"\\\"
** It needs to be said to explain how the trope applies anyway; that\\\'s why I wrote this followed by an explanation of how Rarity is close to those features anyway, relatively speaking. Maybe this needs to be spelled out more.

Now, for the current edit: Their whole personalities are an example of this trope. This episode doesn\\\'t contain all of it, and as it\\\'s written, the example says kind of irrelevant things.

Rarity actually has that sexuality thing going, in a limited kids\\\' show kind of way. That should be mentioned. Fluttershy is generally nurturing, hence fitting or approximating the love aspect. Without these, with the example as it is, I don\\\'t think it would even fit the trope.

I know I should PM lexicon to notify them about this discussion so that we can actually have a discussion, but I\\\'ll leave that for later when I have the time and energy to get into it. I just wanted to write all this down.

* In the episode \\\"Green Isn\\\'t Your Color\\\" of \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic\\\'\\\' we start off by learning that Fluttershy and Rarity spend time together at the spa every week. Rarity talks Fluttershy into modeling for her as a way to further Rarity\\\'s fashion career because nopony is going to have Fluttershy\\\'s elegance and poise. Fluttershy reluctantly agrees at Rarity\\\'s insistence even after Fluttershy isn\\\'t going to be modeling Rarity\\\'s designs. Over time Fluttershy becomes more uncomfortable with the attention but stays with it because she doesn\\\'t want to let Rarity down while Rarity becomes more jealous so much that she wants Fluttershy to fail and by the end they tell each other how they were feeling and strengthen their friendship.

With this reasoning: \\\"There\\\'s no reason to call them the two most feminine characters as if Pinkie Pie isn\\\'t very feminine.The example needs to say what the duo\\\'s relationship is and don\\\'t tell how the examples doesn\\\'t apply as in, \\\"Given the show\\\'s nature, Rarity (dark) can\\\'t actually be devilish or too sexual...\\\" \\\"

So, let\\\'s see.
* \\\"There\\\'s no reason to call them the two most feminine characters as if Pinkie Pie isn\\\'t very feminine.\\\"
** I don\\\'t exactly feel so, but this is arguable, so I\\\'ll grant this point.
* \\\"The example needs to say what the duo\\\'s relationship is\\\"
** Which is done in \\\"out of the six main female characters and group of best friends\\\" (and to a lesser extent by pointing out they\\\'re the feminine ones of the bunch).
* \\\"and don\\\'t tell how the examples doesn\\\'t apply as in, \\\"Given the show\\\'s nature, Rarity (dark) can\\\'t actually be devilish or too sexual...\\\"\\\"
** It needs to be said to explain how the trope applies anyway; that\\\'s why I wrote this followed by an explanation of how Rarity is close to those features anyway, relatively speaking. Maybe this needs to be spelled out more.

Now, for the current edit: Their whole personalities are an example of this trope. This episode doesn\\\'t contain all of it, and as it\\\'s written, the example says kind of irrelevant things.

Rarity actually has that sexuality thing going, in a limited kids\\\' show kind of way. That should be mentioned. Fluttershy is generally nurturing, hence fitting or approximating the love aspect. Without these, with the example as it is, I don\\\'t think it would even fit the trope.

I know I should PM lexicon to notify them about this discussion so that we can actually have a discussion, but I\\\'ll leave that for later when I have the time and energy to get into it. I just wanted to write all this down.

* In the episode \\\"Green Isn\\\'t Your Color\\\" of \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic\\\'\\\' we start off by learning that Fluttershy and Rarity spend time together at the spa every week. Rarity talks Fluttershy into modeling for her as a way to further Rarity\\\'s fashion career because nopony is going to have Fluttershy\\\'s elegance and poise. Fluttershy reluctantly agrees at Rarity\\\'s insistence even after Fluttershy isn\\\'t going to be modeling Rarity\\\'s designs. Over time Fluttershy becomes more uncomfortable with the attention but stays with it because she doesn\\\'t want to let Rarity down while Rarity becomes more jealous so much that she wants Fluttershy to fail and by the end they tell each other how they were feeling and strengthen their friendship.

With this reasoning: \\\"There\\\'s no reason to call them the two most feminine characters as if Pinkie Pie isn\\\'t very feminine.The example needs to say what the duo\\\'s relationship is and don\\\'t tell how the examples doesn\\\'t apply as in, \\\"Given the show\\\'s nature, Rarity (dark) can\\\'t actually be devilish or too sexual...\\\" \\\"

So, let\\\'s see.
* \\\"There\\\'s no reason to call them the two most feminine characters as if Pinkie Pie isn\\\'t very feminine.\\\"
** I don\\\'t exactly feel so, but this is arguable, so I\\\'ll grant this point.
* \\\"The example needs to say what the duo\\\'s relationship is\\\"
** Which is done in \\\"out of the six main female characters and group of best friends\\\" (and to a lesser extent by pointing out they\\\'re the feminine ones of the bunch).
* \\\"and don\\\'t tell how the examples doesn\\\'t apply as in, \\\"Given the show\\\'s nature, Rarity (dark) can\\\'t actually be devilish or too sexual...\\\"\\\"
** It needs to be said to explain how the trope applies anyway; that\\\'s why I wrote this followed by an explanation of how Rarity is close to those features anyway, relatively speaking. Maybe this needs to be spelled out more.

Now, for the current edit: Their whole personalities are an example of this trope. This episode doesn\\\'t contain all of it, and as it\\\'s written, the example says kind of irrelevant things.

Rarity actually has that sexuality thing going, in a limited kids\\\' show kind of way. That should be mentioned. Fluttershy is generally nurturing, hence fitting or approximating the love aspect. Without these, with the example as it is, I don\\\'t think it would even fit the trope.

I know I should PM lexicon to notify them about this discussion so that we can actually have a discussion, but I\\\'ll leave that for later when I have the time and energy to really get into it. I just wanted to write all this down.

* In the episode \\\"Green Isn\\\'t Your Color\\\" of \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic\\\'\\\' we start off by learning that Fluttershy and Rarity spend time together at the spa every week. Rarity talks Fluttershy into modeling for her as a way to further Rarity\\\'s fashion career because nopony is going to have Fluttershy\\\'s elegance and poise. Fluttershy reluctantly agrees at Rarity\\\'s insistence even after Fluttershy isn\\\'t going to be modeling Rarity\\\'s designs. Over time Fluttershy becomes more uncomfortable with the attention but stays with it because she doesn\\\'t want to let Rarity down while Rarity becomes more jealous so much that she wants Fluttershy to fail and by the end they tell each other how they were feeling and strengthen their friendship.

With this reasoning: \\\"There\\\'s no reason to call them the two most feminine characters as if Pinkie Pie isn\\\'t very feminine.The example needs to say what the duo\\\'s relationship is and don\\\'t tell how the examples doesn\\\'t apply as in, \\\"Given the show\\\'s nature, Rarity (dark) can\\\'t actually be devilish or too sexual...\\\" \\\"

So, let\\\'s see.
* \\\"There\\\'s no reason to call them the two most feminine characters as if Pinkie Pie isn\\\'t very feminine.\\\"
** I don\\\'t exactly feel so, but this is arguable, so I\\\'ll grant this point.
* \\\"The example needs to say what the duo\\\'s relationship is\\\"
** Which is done in \\\"out of the six main female characters and group of best friends\\\" (and to a lesser extent by pointing out they\\\'re the feminine ones of the bunch).
* \\\"and don\\\'t tell how the examples doesn\\\'t apply as in, \\\"Given the show\\\'s nature, Rarity (dark) can\\\'t actually be devilish or too sexual...\\\"\\\"
** It needs to be said to explain how the trope applies anyway; that\\\'s why I wrote this followed by an explanation of how Rarity is close to those features anyway, relatively speaking.

Now, for the current edit: Their whole personalities are an example of this trope. This episode doesn\\\'t contain all of it, and as it\\\'s written, the example says kind of irrelevant things.

Rarity actually has that sexuality thing going, in a limited kids\\\' show kind of way. That should be mentioned. Fluttershy is generally nurturing, hence fitting or approximating the love aspect. Without these, with the example as it is, I don\\\'t think it would even fit the trope.

I know I should PM lexicon to notify them about this discussion so that we can actually have a discussion, but I\\\'ll leave that for later when I have the time and energy to really get into it. I just wanted to write all this down.

* In the episode \\\"Green Isn\\\'t Your Color\\\" of \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic\\\'\\\' we start off by learning that Fluttershy and Rarity spend time together at the spa every week. Rarity talks Fluttershy into modeling for her as a way to further Rarity\\\'s fashion career because nopony is going to have Fluttershy\\\'s elegance and poise. Fluttershy reluctantly agrees at Rarity\\\'s insistence even after Fluttershy isn\\\'t going to be modeling Rarity\\\'s designs. Over time Fluttershy becomes more uncomfortable with the attention but stays with it because she doesn\\\'t want to let Rarity down while Rarity becomes more jealous so much that she wants Fluttershy to fail and by the end they tell each other how they were feeling and strengthen their friendship.

With this reasoning: \\\"There\\\'s no reason to call them the two most feminine characters as if Pinkie Pie isn\\\'t very feminine.The example needs to say what the duo\\\'s relationship is and don\\\'t tell how the examples doesn\\\'t apply as in, \\\"Given the show\\\'s nature, Rarity (dark) can\\\'t actually be devilish or too sexual...\\\" \\\"

So, let\\\'s see.
* \\\"There\\\'s no reason to call them the two most feminine characters as if Pinkie Pie isn\\\'t very feminine.\\\"
** I don\\\'t exactly feel so, but this is arguable, so I\\\'ll grant this point.
* \\\"The example needs to say what the duo\\\'s relationship is\\\"
** Which is done in \\\"out of the six main female characters and group of best friends\\\" (and to a lesser extent by pointing out they\\\'re the feminine ones of the bunch).
* \\\"and don\\\'t tell how the examples doesn\\\'t apply as in, \\\"Given the show\\\'s nature, Rarity (dark) can\\\'t actually be devilish or too sexual...\\\"\\\"
** It needs to be said to explain how the trope applies anyway; that\\\'s why I wrote this followed by an explanation of how Rarity is close to those features anyway, relatively speaking.

Now, for the current edit: Their whole personalities are an example of this trope. This episode doesn\\\'t contain all of it, and as it\\\'s written, the example says kind of irrelevant things.

Rarity actually has that sexuality thing going, in a limited kids\\\' show kind of way. That should be mentioned. Fluttershy is generally nurturing, hence fitting or approximating the love aspect. Without these, with the example as it is, I don\\\'t think it would even fit the trope.

I know I should PM lexicon to notify them about this discussion, but I\\\'ll leave that for later when I have the time and energy to really get into it. I just wanted to write all this down.

* In the episode \\\"Green Isn\\\'t Your Color\\\" of \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic\\\'\\\' we start off by learning that Fluttershy and Rarity spend time together at the spa every week. Rarity talks Fluttershy into modeling for her as a way to further Rarity\\\'s fashion career because nopony is going to have Fluttershy\\\'s elegance and poise. Fluttershy reluctantly agrees at Rarity\\\'s insistence even after Fluttershy isn\\\'t going to be modeling Rarity\\\'s designs. Over time Fluttershy becomes more uncomfortable with the attention but stays with it because she doesn\\\'t want to let Rarity down while Rarity becomes more jealous so much that she wants Fluttershy to fail and by the end they tell each other how they were feeling and strengthen their friendship.

With this reasoning: \\\"There\\\'s no reason to call them the two most feminine characters as if Pinkie Pie isn\\\'t very feminine.The example needs to say what the duo\\\'s relationship is and don\\\'t tell how the examples doesn\\\'t apply as in, \\\"Given the show\\\'s nature, Rarity (dark) can\\\'t actually be devilish or too sexual...\\\" \\\"

So, let\\\'s see.
* \\\"There\\\'s no reason to call them the two most feminine characters as if Pinkie Pie isn\\\'t very feminine.\\\"
** I don\\\'t exactly feel so, but this is arguable, so I\\\'ll grant this point.
* \\\"The example needs to say what the duo\\\'s relationship is\\\"
** Which is done in \\\"out of the six main female characters and group of best friends\\\" (and to a lesser extent by pointing out they\\\'re the feminine ones of the bunch).
* \\\"and don\\\'t tell how the examples doesn\\\'t apply as in, \\\"Given the show\\\'s nature, Rarity (dark) can\\\'t actually be devilish or too sexual...\\\"\\\"
** It needs to be said to explain how the trope applies anyway; that\\\'s why I wrote this followed by an explanation of how Rarity is close to those features anyway, relatively speaking.

Now, for the current edit: Their whole personalities are an example of this trope. This episode doesn\\\'t contain all of it, and as it\\\'s written, it says kind of irrelevant things.

Rarity actually has that sexuality thing going, in a limited kids\\\' show kind of way. That should be mentioned. Fluttershy is generally nurturing, hence fitting or approximating the love aspect. Without these, with the example as it is, I don\\\'t think it would even fit the trope.

I know I should PM lexicon to notify them about this discussion, but I\\\'ll leave that for later when I have the time and energy to really get into it. I just wanted to write all this down.

(sigh) So much detail...