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Because as others have pointed out, while Complete Monsters are meant to be hated in-universe, Love To Hate is still in affect for the audience: it\'s possible to hate a villain for how irredeemably evil they are, and yet also be in awe with how good they are at being irredeemably evil because of how well-written they are. And likewise, a magnificent bastard can still invoke just loathing and contempt even if they\'re suppose to invoke the opposite, so I think how an audience is suppose to feel about either one is something of a moot point by now. And even if some examples still end up being just Complete Monsters, it should be noted at least that it does not undermine the fact that many of them still have plans, adapt according to situations, are highly manipulative and charismatic(even if that charisma is ultimately fake, which both Complete Monsters and Magnificent Bastards tend to have), can be pragmatic, are dangerously genre savvy, and can still pull off moments that can genuinely out-magnificent a usual Magnificent Bastard.
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Because as others have pointed out, while Complete Monsters are meant to be hated in-universe, Love To Hate is still in affect for the audience: it\\\'s possible to hate a villain for how irredeemably evil they are, and yet also be in awe with how good they are at being irredeemably evil because of how well-written they are. And likewise, a magnificent bastard can still invoke just loathing and contempt even if they\\\'re suppose to invoke the opposite, so I think how an audience is suppose to feel about either one is something of a moot point by now. And even if some examples still end up being just Complete Monsters, it should be noted at least that it does not undermine the fact that many of them still have plans, adapt according to situations, are highly manipulative and charismatic(even if that charisma is ultimately fake, which both Complete Monsters and Magnificent Bastards tend to have), can be pragmatic, are dangerously genre savvy, and can still pull off moments that can genuinely out-magnificent a usual Magnificent Bastard. Likewise, a Magnificent Bastard can still end up being a Magnificent Bastard even if they end up treading into some of the tropes that the article says to avoid or be careful with.
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Even if trying to play the two tropes together at the same time is a tricky feat, I still don\'t think it\'s something to shy away when existing examples of two combined together can lead to potential for interesting ways of how write villains.
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Even if trying to play the two tropes together at the same time is a tricky feat, I still don\\\'t think it\\\'s something to shy away from when existing examples of two combined together can lead to potential for interesting ways of how write villains.
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Because as others have pointed out, while Complete Monsters are meant to be hated in-universe, Love To Hate is still in affect for the audience: it\'s possible to hate a villain for how irredeemably evil they are, and yet also be in awe with how good they are at being irredeemably evil because of how well-written they are. And likewise, a magnificent bastard can still invoke just loathing and contempt even if they\'re suppose to invoke the opposite, so I think how an audience is suppose to feel about either one is something of a moot point by now. And even if some examples still end up being just Complete Monsters, it should be noted at least that it does not undermine the fact that many of them still have plans, adapt according to situations, are highly manipulative and charismatic(even if that charisma is ultimately fake, which both Complete Monsters and Magnificent Bastards tend to have), are dangerously genre savvy, and can still pull off moments that can genuinely out-magnificent a usual Magnificent Bastard.
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Because as others have pointed out, while Complete Monsters are meant to be hated in-universe, Love To Hate is still in affect for the audience: it\\\'s possible to hate a villain for how irredeemably evil they are, and yet also be in awe with how good they are at being irredeemably evil because of how well-written they are. And likewise, a magnificent bastard can still invoke just loathing and contempt even if they\\\'re suppose to invoke the opposite, so I think how an audience is suppose to feel about either one is something of a moot point by now. And even if some examples still end up being just Complete Monsters, it should be noted at least that it does not undermine the fact that many of them still have plans, adapt according to situations, are highly manipulative and charismatic(even if that charisma is ultimately fake, which both Complete Monsters and Magnificent Bastards tend to have), can be pragmatic, are dangerously genre savvy, and can still pull off moments that can genuinely out-magnificent a usual Magnificent Bastard.
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Because as others have pointed out, while Complete Monsters are meant to be hated in-universe, Love To Hate is still in affect for the audience: it\'s possible to hate a villain for how irredeemably evil they are, and yet also be in awe with how good they are at being irredeemably evil because of how well-written they are. And likewise, a magnificent bastard can still invoke just loathing and contempt even if they\'re suppose to invoke the opposite, so I think how an audience is suppose to feel about either one is something of a moot point by now. And even if some examples still end up being just Complete Monsters, it should be noted at least that it does not undermine the fact that many of them still have plans, adapt according to situations, are highly manipulative and charismatic(even if that charisma is ultimately fake, which both Complete Monsters and Magnificent Bastards tend to have), and can still pull off moments that can genuinely out-magnificent a usual Magnificent Bastard.
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Because as others have pointed out, while Complete Monsters are meant to be hated in-universe, Love To Hate is still in affect for the audience: it\\\'s possible to hate a villain for how irredeemably evil they are, and yet also be in awe with how good they are at being irredeemably evil because of how well-written they are. And likewise, a magnificent bastard can still invoke just loathing and contempt even if they\\\'re suppose to invoke the opposite, so I think how an audience is suppose to feel about either one is something of a moot point by now. And even if some examples still end up being just Complete Monsters, it should be noted at least that it does not undermine the fact that many of them still have plans, adapt according to situations, are highly manipulative and charismatic(even if that charisma is ultimately fake, which both Complete Monsters and Magnificent Bastards tend to have), are dangerously genre savvy, and can still pull off moments that can genuinely out-magnificent a usual Magnificent Bastard.
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