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\\\"Although Smash Bros 3DS has no true official tier list as of yet, a lot of people are saying that Palutena is one of the worst characters in the game due to her default specials being considered very highly impractical and her tilts being very slow and punishable.\\\"
Personally, I think this Tier-Induced Scrappy entry is wrong as-is. For starters, SSB4 does not have tier lists that are regarded as official just yet, and the one list I\\\'ve seen does not rank Palutena that low. The trope may be a YMMV trope, but examples (under YMMV) still need to qualify for the trope. In this case, one of three things is possible:
1) Tier-Induced Scrappy does indeed have to do with tier lists, in which case Palutena does not yet belong to that trope because those are rare.
2) Tier-Induced Scrappy is not about tier lists, which means it \\\'\\\'might\\\'\\\' have a name issue. Palutena would be a valid example if this is true.
3) There\\\'s actually high-profile tier lists that do rank Palutena that low, which means I\\\'m just being an idiot on this front.
Second, I recently learned that the competitive scene has \\\'\\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\'\\\' yet agreed on whether Custom Specials are to be banned. I quote (though translated) \\\"They are still in the process of testing this\\\". That\\\'s highly important because it\\\'s not only the main gimmick of Palutena, but also very much crucial for Palutena\\\'s functioning in general. I\\\'m putting aside my genuine hatred of banning Palutena\\\'s \\\"customs\\\". Could go in detail about this too, but I\\\'ll keep it brief: If custom specials aren\\\'t banned, there\\\'s more to her than the mentioned \\\"default moveset\\\".
Finally, and this one has to do with the following response:
\\\"Her entry should stay because in \\\'\\\'competitive\\\'\\\' she is considered a bad character; her Ensemble Darkhorse status doesn\\\'t affect her tier status.\\\"
There is next to no tier status yet, as detailed earlier. And to get to the point: If Palutena is \\\'\\\'competitively\\\'\\\' bad, why does the entry simply say \\\"one of \\\'\\\'the worst\\\'\\\' characters in the game\\\"? The YMMV page, and I very much believe TvT does in general, acknowledges that the Casual-Competitive Conflict is extremely severe in SSB. Given that, it\\\'s a \\\'\\\'\\\'terrible\\\'\\\'\\\' idea to not explicitly state the side of the conflict. In this case, if Palutena is considered bad \\\"competitively\\\", state it as such. Right now, the entry is implying that she is in fact \\\'\\\'plain\\\'\\\' bad, and when you have as many playstyles as there are in Smash Bros, that\\\'s pretty much completely \\\'\\\'impossible\\\'\\\'. You can\\\'t be bad at that many things.
Again, the entry right now is not okay, but if TvT insists on keeping it, I \\\'\\\'\\\'highly\\\'\\\'\\\' suggest you at least add that \\\"competitive\\\" bit, because as is, the entry is just begging for trouble.
I\\\'m not touching the page myself. For all I know I could be editing it wrong.
Personally, I think this Tier-Induced Scrappy entry is wrong as-is. For starters, SSB4 does not have tier lists that are regarded as official just yet, and the one list I\\\'ve seen does not rank Palutena that low. The trope may be a YMMV trope, but examples (under YMMV) still need to qualify for the trope. In this case, one of three things is possible:
1) Tier-Induced Scrappy does indeed have to do with tier lists, in which case Palutena does not yet belong to that trope because those are rare.
2) Tier-Induced Scrappy is not about tier lists, which means it \\\'\\\'might\\\'\\\' have a name issue. Palutena would be a valid example if this is true.
3) There\\\'s actually high-profile tier lists that do rank Palutena that low, which means I\\\'m just being an idiot on this front.
Second, I recently learned that the competitive scene has \\\'\\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\'\\\' yet agreed on whether Custom Specials are to be banned. I quote (though translated) \\\"They are still in the process of testing this\\\". That\\\'s highly important because it\\\'s not only the main gimmick of Palutena, but also very much crucial for Palutena\\\'s functioning in general. I\\\'m putting aside my genuine hatred of banning Palutena\\\'s \\\"customs\\\". Could go in detail about this too, but I\\\'ll keep it brief: If custom specials aren\\\'t banned, there\\\'s more to her than the mentioned \\\"default moveset\\\".
Finally, and this one has to do with the following response:
\\\"Her entry should stay because in \\\'\\\'competitive\\\'\\\' she is considered a bad character; her Ensemble Darkhorse status doesn\\\'t affect her tier status.\\\"
There is next to no tier status yet, as detailed earlier. And to get to the point: If Palutena is \\\'\\\'competitively\\\'\\\' bad, why does the entry simply say \\\"one of \\\'\\\'the worst\\\'\\\' characters in the game\\\"? The YMMV page, and I very much believe TvT does in general, acknowledges that the Casual-Competitive Conflict is extremely severe in SSB. Given that, it\\\'s a \\\'\\\'\\\'terrible\\\'\\\'\\\' idea to not explicitly state the side of the conflict. In this case, if Palutena is considered bad \\\"competitively\\\", state it as such. Right now, the entry is implying that she is in fact \\\'\\\'plain\\\'\\\' bad, and when you have as many playstyles as there are in Smash Bros, that\\\'s pretty much completely \\\'\\\'impossible\\\'\\\'. You can\\\'t be bad at that many things.
Again, the entry right now is not okay, but if TvT insists on keeping it, I \\\'\\\'\\\'highly\\\'\\\'\\\' suggest you at least add that \\\"competitive\\\" bit, because as is, the entry is just begging for trouble.
I\\\'m not touching the page myself. For all I know I could be editing it wrong.
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\\\"Although Smash Bros 3DS has no true official tier list as of yet, a lot of people are saying that Palutena is one of the worst characters in the game due to her default specials being considered very highly impractical and her tilts being very slow and punishable.\\\"
Personally, I think this Tier-Induced Scrappy entry is wrong as-is. For starters, SSB4 does not have tier lists that are regarded as official just yet, and the one list I\\\'ve seen does not rank Palutena that low. The trope may be a YMMV trope, but examples (under YMMV) still need to qualify for the trope. In this case, one of three things is possible:
1) Tier-Induced Scrappy does indeed have to do with tiers, in which case Palutena does not yet belong to that trope because those are rare.
2) Tier-Induced Scrappy is not about tiers, which means it might (IMO) have a name issue. Palutena would be a valid example if this is true.
3) There\\\'s actually high-profile tier lists that do rank Palutena that low, which means I\\\'m just being an idiot on this front.
Second, I recently learned that the competitive scene hasn\\\'t yet agreed on whether Custom Specials are to be banned. I quote (though translated) \\\"They are still in the process of testing this\\\". That\\\'s highly important because it\\\'s not only the main gimmick of Palutena, but also very much crucial for Palutena\\\'s functioning in general. I\\\'m putting aside my genuine hatred of banning Palutena\\\'s \\\"customs\\\". Could go in detail about this too, but I\\\'ll keep it brief: If custom specials aren\\\'t banned, there\\\'s more to her than the mentioned \\\"default moveset\\\".
Finally, and this one has to do with the following response:
\\\"Her entry should stay because in \\\'\\\'competitive\\\'\\\' she is considered a bad character; her Ensemble Darkhorse status doesn\\\'t affect her tier status.\\\"
There is next to no tier status yet, as detailed earlier. And to get to the point: If Palutena is competitively bad, why does the entry simply say \\\"one of the worst characters in the game\\\"? The YMMV page, and I very much believe TvT does in general, acknowledges that the Casual-Competitive Conflict is extremely severe in SSB. Given that, it\\\'s a terrible idea to not explicitly state the side of the conflict. In this case, if Palutena is considered bad \\\"competitively\\\", state it as such. Right now, the entry is implying that she is in fact plain bad, and when you have as many playstyles as there are in Smash Bros, that\\\'s pretty much completely impossible. You can\\\'t be bad at that many things.
Again, the entry right now is not okay, but if TvT insists on keeping it, I HIGHLY suggest you at least add that \\\"competitive\\\" bit, because as is, the entry is just begging for trouble.
I\\\'m not touching the page myself. For all I know I could be editing it wrong.
Personally, I think this Tier-Induced Scrappy entry is wrong as-is. For starters, SSB4 does not have tier lists that are regarded as official just yet, and the one list I\\\'ve seen does not rank Palutena that low. The trope may be a YMMV trope, but examples (under YMMV) still need to qualify for the trope. In this case, one of three things is possible:
1) Tier-Induced Scrappy does indeed have to do with tiers, in which case Palutena does not yet belong to that trope because those are rare.
2) Tier-Induced Scrappy is not about tiers, which means it might (IMO) have a name issue. Palutena would be a valid example if this is true.
3) There\\\'s actually high-profile tier lists that do rank Palutena that low, which means I\\\'m just being an idiot on this front.
Second, I recently learned that the competitive scene hasn\\\'t yet agreed on whether Custom Specials are to be banned. I quote (though translated) \\\"They are still in the process of testing this\\\". That\\\'s highly important because it\\\'s not only the main gimmick of Palutena, but also very much crucial for Palutena\\\'s functioning in general. I\\\'m putting aside my genuine hatred of banning Palutena\\\'s \\\"customs\\\". Could go in detail about this too, but I\\\'ll keep it brief: If custom specials aren\\\'t banned, there\\\'s more to her than the mentioned \\\"default moveset\\\".
Finally, and this one has to do with the following response:
\\\"Her entry should stay because in \\\'\\\'competitive\\\'\\\' she is considered a bad character; her Ensemble Darkhorse status doesn\\\'t affect her tier status.\\\"
There is next to no tier status yet, as detailed earlier. And to get to the point: If Palutena is competitively bad, why does the entry simply say \\\"one of the worst characters in the game\\\"? The YMMV page, and I very much believe TvT does in general, acknowledges that the Casual-Competitive Conflict is extremely severe in SSB. Given that, it\\\'s a terrible idea to not explicitly state the side of the conflict. In this case, if Palutena is considered bad \\\"competitively\\\", state it as such. Right now, the entry is implying that she is in fact plain bad, and when you have as many playstyles as there are in Smash Bros, that\\\'s pretty much completely impossible. You can\\\'t be bad at that many things.
Again, the entry right now is not okay, but if TvT insists on keeping it, I HIGHLY suggest you at least add that \\\"competitive\\\" bit, because as is, the entry is just begging for trouble.
I\\\'m not touching the page myself. For all I know I could be editing it wrong.
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\\\"Although Smash Bros 3DS has no true official tier list as of yet, a lot of people are saying that Palutena is one of the worst characters in the game due to her default specials being considered very highly impractical and her tilts being very slow and punishable.\\\"
Personally, I think this Tier-Induced Scrappy entry is wrong as-is. For starters, SSB4 does not have tier lists that are regarded as official just yet, and the one list I\\\'ve seen does not rank Palutena that low. The trope may be a YMMV trope, but examples (under YMMV) still need to qualify for the trope. In this case, one of three things is possible:
1) Tier-Induced Scrappy does indeed have to do with tiers, in which case Palutena does not yet belong to that trope because those are rare.
2) Tier-Induced Scrappy is not about tiers, which means it might (IMO) have a name issue. Palutena would be a valid example if this is true.
3) There\\\'s actually high-profile tier lists that do rank Palutena that low, which means I\\\'m just being an idiot on this front.
Second, I recently learned that the competitive scene hasn\\\'t yet agreed on whether Custom Specials are to be banned. I quote (though translated) \\\"They are still in the process of testing this\\\". That\\\'s highly important because it\\\'s not only the main gimmick of Palutena, but also very much crucial for Palutena\\\'s functioning in general. I\\\'m putting aside my genuine hatred of banning Palutena\\\'s \\\"customs\\\". Could go in detail about this too, but I\\\'ll keep it brief: If custom specials aren\\\'t banned, there\\\'s more to her than the mentioned \\\"default moveset\\\".
Finally, and this one has to do with the following response:
\\\"Her entry should stay because in competitive she is considered a bad character; her Ensemble Darkhorse status doesn\\\'t affect her tier status.\\\"
There is next to no tier status yet, as detailed earlier. And to get to the point: If Palutena is competitively bad, why does the entry simply say \\\"one of the worst characters in the game\\\"? The YMMV page, and I very much believe TvT does in general, acknowledges that the Casual-Competitive Conflict is extremely severe in SSB. Given that, it\\\'s a terrible idea to not explicitly state the side of the conflict. In this case, if Palutena is considered bad \\\"competitively\\\", state it as such. Right now, the entry is implying that she is in fact plain bad, and when you have as many playstyles as there are in Smash Bros, that\\\'s pretty much completely impossible. You can\\\'t be bad at that many things.
Again, the entry right now is not okay, but if TvT insists on keeping it, I HIGHLY suggest you at least add that \\\"competitive\\\" bit, because as is, the entry is just begging for trouble.
I\\\'m not touching the page myself. For all I know I could be editing it wrong.
Personally, I think this Tier-Induced Scrappy entry is wrong as-is. For starters, SSB4 does not have tier lists that are regarded as official just yet, and the one list I\\\'ve seen does not rank Palutena that low. The trope may be a YMMV trope, but examples (under YMMV) still need to qualify for the trope. In this case, one of three things is possible:
1) Tier-Induced Scrappy does indeed have to do with tiers, in which case Palutena does not yet belong to that trope because those are rare.
2) Tier-Induced Scrappy is not about tiers, which means it might (IMO) have a name issue. Palutena would be a valid example if this is true.
3) There\\\'s actually high-profile tier lists that do rank Palutena that low, which means I\\\'m just being an idiot on this front.
Second, I recently learned that the competitive scene hasn\\\'t yet agreed on whether Custom Specials are to be banned. I quote (though translated) \\\"They are still in the process of testing this\\\". That\\\'s highly important because it\\\'s not only the main gimmick of Palutena, but also very much crucial for Palutena\\\'s functioning in general. I\\\'m putting aside my genuine hatred of banning Palutena\\\'s \\\"customs\\\". Could go in detail about this too, but I\\\'ll keep it brief: If custom specials aren\\\'t banned, there\\\'s more to her than the mentioned \\\"default moveset\\\".
Finally, and this one has to do with the following response:
\\\"Her entry should stay because in competitive she is considered a bad character; her Ensemble Darkhorse status doesn\\\'t affect her tier status.\\\"
There is next to no tier status yet, as detailed earlier. And to get to the point: If Palutena is competitively bad, why does the entry simply say \\\"one of the worst characters in the game\\\"? The YMMV page, and I very much believe TvT does in general, acknowledges that the Casual-Competitive Conflict is extremely severe in SSB. Given that, it\\\'s a terrible idea to not explicitly state the side of the conflict. In this case, if Palutena is considered bad \\\"competitively\\\", state it as such. Right now, the entry is implying that she is in fact plain bad, and when you have as many playstyles as there are in Smash Bros, that\\\'s pretty much completely impossible. You can\\\'t be bad at that many things.
Again, the entry right now is not okay, but if TvT insists on keeping it, I HIGHLY suggest you at least add that \\\"competitive\\\" bit, because as is, the entry is just begging for trouble.
I\\\'m not touching the page myself. For all I know I could be editing it wrong.
