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Even if the provided evidence was valid and relevant (which it isn\'t), it still fails to meet the basic definition. There is no canonical relationship unsupported by the evidence. Shepard and Liara\'s relationship is \'\'not\'\' romantic if Liara is not romanced. If anything, this is somewhat of an inverse of the trope. Whereas the trope is a relationship unsupported by the rest of the story, what the entry describes is evidence within the story but no actual relationship. On that alone, it doesn\'t meet the definition.
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Even if the provided evidence was valid and relevant (which it isn\\\'t), it still fails to meet the basic definition. There is no canonical relationship unsupported by the evidence. Shepard and Liara\\\'s relationship is \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' romantic if Liara is not romanced. If anything, this is somewhat of an inverse of the trope. Whereas the trope is a relationship unsupported by content within the rest of the story, what the entry describes is evidence within the story but no actual relationship. On that alone, it doesn\\\'t meet the definition.
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Despite the player being able to be rude to Liara in dialogue, the two are canonically friends, which is established by their actions throughout the series. And of course, this is true with a wide range of characters. Regardless of how much the player might hate them and want to shoot them in the face, Shepard allows them on ship, and works with them, and fights alongside them. Even if that could be interpreted as Shepard putting duty over personal concerns, there are actions throughout the series clearly dependent on Shepard at least somewhat liking characters and vice-versa. The player can be rude to just about every character, but they still get along. Ultimately, content the narrative conclusively shows trumps the player\'s desire and ability to roleplay.
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Despite the player being able to be rude to Liara in dialogue, the two are canonically friends, which is established by their actions throughout the series. And of course, this is true with a wide range of characters. Regardless of how much the player might hate them and want to shoot them in the face, Shepard allows them on ship, works with them, and fights alongside them. Even if that could be interpreted as Shepard putting duty over personal concerns, there are actions throughout the series clearly dependent on Shepard at least somewhat liking characters and vice-versa. The player can be rude to just about every character, but they still get along. Ultimately, content the narrative conclusively shows trumps the player\\\'s desire and ability to roleplay.
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Despite the player being able to be rude to Liara in dialogue, the two are canonically friends, which is established by their actions throughout the series. And of course, this is true with a wide range of characters. Regardless of how much the player might hate them and want to shoot them in face, Shepard canonically allows them on ship, and is willing to work and fight alongside them. The player can be rude to just about every character, but they still get along. Ultimately, content the narrative conclusively shows trumps the player\'s desire and ability to roleplay.
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Despite the player being able to be rude to Liara in dialogue, the two are canonically friends, which is established by their actions throughout the series. And of course, this is true with a wide range of characters. Regardless of how much the player might hate them and want to shoot them in the face, Shepard allows them on ship, and works with them, and fights alongside them. Even if that could be interpreted as Shepard putting duty over personal concerns, there are actions throughout the series clearly dependent on Shepard at least somewhat liking characters and vice-versa. The player can be rude to just about every character, but they still get along. Ultimately, content the narrative conclusively shows trumps the player\\\'s desire and ability to roleplay.
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Even if the provided evidence was valid and relevant (which it isn\'t), it still fails to meet the basic definition. There is no canonical relationship unsupported by the evidence. Shepard and Liara\'s relationship is \'\'not\'\' romantic if Liara is not romanced. If anything, this is somewhat of an inverse of the trope. Whereas the trope is a relationship unsupported by the rest of the story, what the entry describes evidence within the story but no actual relationship. On that alone, it doesn\'t meet the definition.
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Even if the provided evidence was valid and relevant (which it isn\\\'t), it still fails to meet the basic definition. There is no canonical relationship unsupported by the evidence. Shepard and Liara\\\'s relationship is \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' romantic if Liara is not romanced. If anything, this is somewhat of an inverse of the trope. Whereas the trope is a relationship unsupported by the rest of the story, what the entry describes is evidence within the story but no actual relationship. On that alone, it doesn\\\'t meet the definition.
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Despite the player being able to be rude to Liara in dialogue, the two are canonically friends, which is established by their actions throughout the series. And of course, this is true with a wide range of characters. Regardless of how much the player might hate them and want to shoot them in face, Shepard canonically allows them on ship, and is willing to work and fight alongside them. The player can be rude to just about every character, but they still get along.
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Despite the player being able to be rude to Liara in dialogue, the two are canonically friends, which is established by their actions throughout the series. And of course, this is true with a wide range of characters. Regardless of how much the player might hate them and want to shoot them in face, Shepard canonically allows them on ship, and is willing to work and fight alongside them. The player can be rude to just about every character, but they still get along. Ultimately, content the narrative conclusively shows trumps the player\\\'s desire and ability to roleplay.
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Despite the player being able to be rude to Liara in dialogue, the two are canonically friends, which is established by their actions throughout the series. And of course, this is true with a wide range of characters. Regardless of how much the player might hate them and want to shoot them in face, Shepard canonically allows them on ship, and is willing to work and fight alongside them. The player can be rude to just about every character, but they\'re still get along.
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Despite the player being able to be rude to Liara in dialogue, the two are canonically friends, which is established by their actions throughout the series. And of course, this is true with a wide range of characters. Regardless of how much the player might hate them and want to shoot them in face, Shepard canonically allows them on ship, and is willing to work and fight alongside them. The player can be rude to just about every character, but they still get along.
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Despite the player being able to be rude to Liara in dialogue, the two are canonically friends, which is established by their actions throughout the series. And of course, this is true with a wide range of characters. Regardless of how much the player might hate them and want to shoot them in face, Shepard canonically allows them on ship, and is willing to work and fight alongside them.
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Despite the player being able to be rude to Liara in dialogue, the two are canonically friends, which is established by their actions throughout the series. And of course, this is true with a wide range of characters. Regardless of how much the player might hate them and want to shoot them in face, Shepard canonically allows them on ship, and is willing to work and fight alongside them. The player can be rude to just about every character, but they\\\'re still get along.
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Despite the player being able to be rude to Liara in dialogue, the two are canonically friends. And of course, this is true with a wide range of characters. Regardless of how much the player might hate them and want to shoot them in face, Shepard canonically allows them on ship, and is willing to work and fight alongside them.
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Despite the player being able to be rude to Liara in dialogue, the two are canonically friends, which is established by their actions throughout the series. And of course, this is true with a wide range of characters. Regardless of how much the player might hate them and want to shoot them in face, Shepard canonically allows them on ship, and is willing to work and fight alongside them.
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Secondly, the entry says it\'s \'assumed\' Shepard is attractive to Liara in ME 1. I\'m nearly certain this is false. Ashley and Kaidan \'\'ask\' if Shepard is attracted to Liara, but Shepard is free to say he or she isn\'t. In any case, \'\'characters\'\' assuming something is not the same at all as the \'\'narrative\'\' assuming something.
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Secondly, the entry says it\\\'s \\\'assumed\\\' Shepard is attractive to Liara in ME 1. I\\\'m nearly certain this is false. Ashley and Kaidan \\\'\\\'ask\\\'\\\' if Shepard is attracted to Liara, but Shepard is free to say he or she isn\\\'t. In any case, \\\'\\\'characters\\\'\\\' assuming something is not the same at all as the \\\'\\\'narrative\\\'\\\' assuming something.
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Even if the provided evidence was valid and relevant (which it isn\'t), it still fails to meet the basic definition. There is no canonical relationship unsupported by the evidence. Shepard and Liara\'s relationship is \'\'not\'\' romantic if Liara is not romanced. If anything, this is somewhat of an inverse of the trope. Whereas the trope is a relationship unsupported by the rest of the story, what the entry desribes evidence within the story but no actual relationship. On that alone, it doesn\'t meet the definition.
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Concerning Liara in the \\\'\\\'Mass Effect\\\'\\\' series...
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Even if the provided evidence was valid and relevant (which it isn\\\'t), it still fails to meet the basic definition. There is no canonical relationship unsupported by the evidence. Shepard and Liara\\\'s relationship is \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' romantic if Liara is not romanced. If anything, this is somewhat of an inverse of the trope. Whereas the trope is a relationship unsupported by the rest of the story, what the entry describes evidence within the story but no actual relationship. On that alone, it doesn\\\'t meet the definition.
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Even if the provided evidence was valid and relevant (which it isn\'t), it still fails to meet the basic definition. There is no canonical relationship unsupported by the evidence. Shepard and Liara\'s relationship is \'\'not\'\' romantic if Liara is not romanced. If anything, this is somewhat of an inverse of the trope. Whereas the trope is a relationship unsupported by the rest of the story, the entry points to evidence within the story but no actual relationship.
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Even if the provided evidence was valid and relevant (which it isn\\\'t), it still fails to meet the basic definition. There is no canonical relationship unsupported by the evidence. Shepard and Liara\\\'s relationship is \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' romantic if Liara is not romanced. If anything, this is somewhat of an inverse of the trope. Whereas the trope is a relationship unsupported by the rest of the story, what the entry desribes evidence within the story but no actual relationship. On that alone, it doesn\\\'t meet the definition.
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