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* \\\"originally intended to be monstrous\\\" implies some sort of WordOfGod on the subject, which there isn\\\'t as far as I know (although I admittedly haven\\\'t read through Creator/AndrewHussie\\\'s full Formspring archive). Also, the bit about the inherently violent streak is wrong, but I cover that more a few lines down.
* Trolls finding humans ugly has always been in question, since the only source we have on that subject is Karkat telling John to tell Jade to \\\"GET HER GROSS AND TOTALLY UNATTRACTIVE HUMAN BUTT OFF HER UGLY HUMAN HIGH HORSE AND ANSWER MY MESSAGES\\\", which is a sentence pretty much impossible to take seriously as his actual opinion on her looks.
* John is known to compare pretty much \\\'\\\'anything\\\'\\\' to his favorite movies given the opportunity. At one point he reenacts the ending of Film/ConAir with a pair of \\\'\\\'salamanders\\\'\\\'.
* Nobody ever says the trolls are \\\"all so pretty\\\".
* The character who says the trolls are \\\"so beautiful\\\" (which I assume is the incident that the \\\"all so pretty\\\" misquote is referring to) is a parody of the fandom, and that line is just the conclusion of a whole bunch of gushing about how great trolls are.
* The inherent violence isn\\\'t retconned to be the fault of a bunch of psychics, it\\\'s just never there in the first place. Their society is highly violent, yes, but the story never tries to claim that it\\\'s inherent, just that it\\\'s the clear social paradigm.
* While some of the teenage/adult clones are portrayed as sexy, Karkat\\\'s ancestor was never one of them. One version of him is portrayed with zero emphasis on his attractieness one way or the other, although he\\\'s a confirmed celibate. The other had a steady relationship, but still doesn\\\'t really have any emphasis on his attractiveness, just his charisma.
* Trolls finding humans ugly has always been in question, since the only source we have on that subject is Karkat telling John to tell Jade to \\\"GET HER GROSS AND TOTALLY UNATTRACTIVE HUMAN BUTT OFF HER UGLY HUMAN HIGH HORSE AND ANSWER MY MESSAGES\\\", which is a sentence pretty much impossible to take seriously as his actual opinion on her looks.
* John is known to compare pretty much \\\'\\\'anything\\\'\\\' to his favorite movies given the opportunity. At one point he reenacts the ending of Film/ConAir with a pair of \\\'\\\'salamanders\\\'\\\'.
* Nobody ever says the trolls are \\\"all so pretty\\\".
* The character who says the trolls are \\\"so beautiful\\\" (which I assume is the incident that the \\\"all so pretty\\\" misquote is referring to) is a parody of the fandom, and that line is just the conclusion of a whole bunch of gushing about how great trolls are.
* The inherent violence isn\\\'t retconned to be the fault of a bunch of psychics, it\\\'s just never there in the first place. Their society is highly violent, yes, but the story never tries to claim that it\\\'s inherent, just that it\\\'s the clear social paradigm.
* While some of the teenage/adult clones are portrayed as sexy, Karkat\\\'s ancestor was never one of them. One version of him is portrayed with zero emphasis on his attractieness one way or the other, although he\\\'s a confirmed celibate. The other had a steady relationship, but still doesn\\\'t really have any emphasis on his attractiveness, just his charisma.
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* \\\"originally intended to be monstrous\\\" implies some sort of WordOfGod on the subject, which there isn\\\'t as far as I know (although I admittedly haven\\\'t read through Creator/AndrewHussie\\\'s full Formspring archive). Also, the bit about the inherently violent streak is wrong, but I cover that more a few lines down.
* Trolls finding humans ugly has always been in question, since the only source we have on that subject is Karkat telling John to tell Jade to \\\"GET HER GROSS AND TOTALLY UNATTRACTIVE HUMAN BUTT OFF HER UGLY HUMAN HIGH HORSE AND ANSWER MY MESSAGES\\\", which is a sentence pretty much impossible to take seriously as his actual opinion on her looks.
* John is known to compare pretty much \\\'\\\'anything\\\'\\\' to his favorite movies given the opportunity. At one point he reenacts the ending of Film/ConAir with a pair of \\\'\\\'salamanders\\\'\\\'.
* Nobody ever says the trolls are \\\"all so pretty\\\".
* The character who says the trolls are \\\"so beautiful\\\" (which I assume is the incident that the \\\"all so pretty\\\" misquote is referring to) is a parody of the fandom, and that line is just the conclusion of a whole bunch of gushing about how great trolls are.
* The inherent violence isn\\\'t retconned to be the fault of a bunch of psychics, it\\\'s just never there in the first place. Their society is highly violent, yes, but the story never tries to claim that it\\\'s inherent, just that it\\\'s the clear social paradigm.
* While some of the teenage/adult clones (who it\\\'s worth mentioning aren\\\'t actually confirmed to be genetically identical, just very similar) are portrayed as sexy, Karkat\\\'s ancestor was never one of them. One version of him is portrayed with zero emphasis on his attractieness one way or the other, although he\\\'s a confirmed celibate. The other had a steady relationship, but still doesn\\\'t really have any emphasis on his attractiveness, just his charisma.
* Trolls finding humans ugly has always been in question, since the only source we have on that subject is Karkat telling John to tell Jade to \\\"GET HER GROSS AND TOTALLY UNATTRACTIVE HUMAN BUTT OFF HER UGLY HUMAN HIGH HORSE AND ANSWER MY MESSAGES\\\", which is a sentence pretty much impossible to take seriously as his actual opinion on her looks.
* John is known to compare pretty much \\\'\\\'anything\\\'\\\' to his favorite movies given the opportunity. At one point he reenacts the ending of Film/ConAir with a pair of \\\'\\\'salamanders\\\'\\\'.
* Nobody ever says the trolls are \\\"all so pretty\\\".
* The character who says the trolls are \\\"so beautiful\\\" (which I assume is the incident that the \\\"all so pretty\\\" misquote is referring to) is a parody of the fandom, and that line is just the conclusion of a whole bunch of gushing about how great trolls are.
* The inherent violence isn\\\'t retconned to be the fault of a bunch of psychics, it\\\'s just never there in the first place. Their society is highly violent, yes, but the story never tries to claim that it\\\'s inherent, just that it\\\'s the clear social paradigm.
* While some of the teenage/adult clones (who it\\\'s worth mentioning aren\\\'t actually confirmed to be genetically identical, just very similar) are portrayed as sexy, Karkat\\\'s ancestor was never one of them. One version of him is portrayed with zero emphasis on his attractieness one way or the other, although he\\\'s a confirmed celibate. The other had a steady relationship, but still doesn\\\'t really have any emphasis on his attractiveness, just his charisma.
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* \\\"originally intended to be monstrous\\\" implies some sort of WordOfGod on the subject, which there isn\\\'t as far as I know (although I admittedly haven\\\'t read through Creator/AndrewHussie\\\'s full Formspring archive). Also, the bit about the inherently violent streak is wrong, but I cover that more a few lines down.
* Trolls finding humans ugly has always been in question, since the only source we have on that subject is Karkat telling John to tell Jade to \\\"GET HER GROSS AND TOTALLY UNATTRACTIVE HUMAN BUTT OFF HER UGLY HUMAN HIGH HORSE AND ANSWER MY MESSAGES\\\", which is a sentence pretty much impossible to take seriously as his actual opinion on her looks.
* John is known to compare pretty much \\\'\\\'anything\\\'\\\' to his favorite movies given the opportunity. At one point he reenacts the ending of Film/ConAir with a pair of \\\'\\\'salamanders\\\'\\\'.
* Nobody ever says the trolls are \\\"all so pretty\\\".
* The character who says the trolls are \\\"so beautiful\\\" (which I assume is the incident that the \\\"all so pretty\\\" misquote is referring to) is a parody of the fandom, and that line is just the conclusion of a whole bunch of gushing about how great trolls are.
* The inherent violence isn\\\'t retconned to be the fault of a bunch of psychics, it\\\'s just never there in the first place. Their society is highly violent, yes, but the story never tries to claim that it\\\'s inherent, just that it\\\'s the clear social paradigm.
* While some of the teenage/adult clones (who it\\\'s worth mentioning aren\\\'t actually confirmed to be genetically identical, just very similar) are portrayed as sexy, Karkat\\\'s ancestor was never one of them. One version of him is portrayed with zero emphasis on his attractieness one way or the other, although he\\\'s a confirmed celibate. The other had some steady romance, but still doesn\\\'t really have any emphasis on his attractiveness, just his charisma.
* Trolls finding humans ugly has always been in question, since the only source we have on that subject is Karkat telling John to tell Jade to \\\"GET HER GROSS AND TOTALLY UNATTRACTIVE HUMAN BUTT OFF HER UGLY HUMAN HIGH HORSE AND ANSWER MY MESSAGES\\\", which is a sentence pretty much impossible to take seriously as his actual opinion on her looks.
* John is known to compare pretty much \\\'\\\'anything\\\'\\\' to his favorite movies given the opportunity. At one point he reenacts the ending of Film/ConAir with a pair of \\\'\\\'salamanders\\\'\\\'.
* Nobody ever says the trolls are \\\"all so pretty\\\".
* The character who says the trolls are \\\"so beautiful\\\" (which I assume is the incident that the \\\"all so pretty\\\" misquote is referring to) is a parody of the fandom, and that line is just the conclusion of a whole bunch of gushing about how great trolls are.
* The inherent violence isn\\\'t retconned to be the fault of a bunch of psychics, it\\\'s just never there in the first place. Their society is highly violent, yes, but the story never tries to claim that it\\\'s inherent, just that it\\\'s the clear social paradigm.
* While some of the teenage/adult clones (who it\\\'s worth mentioning aren\\\'t actually confirmed to be genetically identical, just very similar) are portrayed as sexy, Karkat\\\'s ancestor was never one of them. One version of him is portrayed with zero emphasis on his attractieness one way or the other, although he\\\'s a confirmed celibate. The other had some steady romance, but still doesn\\\'t really have any emphasis on his attractiveness, just his charisma.
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I\'ve just deleted the Homestuck example, having broken down what was wrong with it piece by piece; unfortunately, said breakdown was longer and more formatted than would be non-awkward for the edit reason box, so I\'m going to leave it here and give a short summary in the edit box. Here\'s a quote of the deleted example, for the sake of convenience:
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I\\\'ve just deleted the Homestuck example, having written a piece-by-piece breakdown of exactly how much of it was dependent on either one-sided writing or plain wrongness; unfortunately, said breakdown was longer and more formatted than would be non-awkward for the edit reason box, so I\\\'m going to leave it here. Here\\\'s a quote of the deleted example, for the sake of convenience:
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* \\\"originally intended to be monstrous\\\" implies some sort of WordOfGod on the subject, which there isn\\\'t as far as I know (although I admittedly haven\\\'t read through Creator/AndrewHussie\\\'s full Formspring archive).
* Trolls finding humans ugly has always been in question, since the only source we have on that subject is Karkat telling John to tell Jade to \\\"GET HER GROSS AND TOTALLY UNATTRACTIVE HUMAN BUTT OFF HER UGLY HUMAN HIGH HORSE AND ANSWER MY MESSAGES\\\", which is a sentence pretty much impossible to take seriously as his actual opinion on her looks.
* John is known to compare pretty much \\\'\\\'anything\\\'\\\' to his favorite movies given the opportunity. At one point he reenacts the ending of Film/ConAir with a pair of \\\'\\\'salamanders\\\'\\\'.
* Nobody ever says the trolls are \\\"all so pretty\\\".
* The character who says the trolls are \\\"so beautiful\\\" (which I assume is the incident that the \\\"all so pretty\\\" misquote is referring to) is a parody of the fandom, and that line is just the conclusion of a whole bunch of gushing about how great trolls are.
* The inherent violence isn\\\'t retconned to be the fault of a bunch of psychics, it\\\'s just never there in the first place. Their society is highly violent, yes, but the story never tries to claim that it\\\'s inherent, just that it\\\'s the clear social paradigm.
* While some of the teenage/adult clones (who it\\\'s worth mentioning aren\\\'t actually confirmed to be genetically identical, just very similar) are portrayed as sexy, Karkat\\\'s ancestor was never one of them. One version of him is portrayed with zero emphasis on his attractieness one way or the other, although he\\\'s a confirmed celibate. The other had some steady romance, but still doesn\\\'t really have any emphasis on his attractiveness, just his charisma.
* Trolls finding humans ugly has always been in question, since the only source we have on that subject is Karkat telling John to tell Jade to \\\"GET HER GROSS AND TOTALLY UNATTRACTIVE HUMAN BUTT OFF HER UGLY HUMAN HIGH HORSE AND ANSWER MY MESSAGES\\\", which is a sentence pretty much impossible to take seriously as his actual opinion on her looks.
* John is known to compare pretty much \\\'\\\'anything\\\'\\\' to his favorite movies given the opportunity. At one point he reenacts the ending of Film/ConAir with a pair of \\\'\\\'salamanders\\\'\\\'.
* Nobody ever says the trolls are \\\"all so pretty\\\".
* The character who says the trolls are \\\"so beautiful\\\" (which I assume is the incident that the \\\"all so pretty\\\" misquote is referring to) is a parody of the fandom, and that line is just the conclusion of a whole bunch of gushing about how great trolls are.
* The inherent violence isn\\\'t retconned to be the fault of a bunch of psychics, it\\\'s just never there in the first place. Their society is highly violent, yes, but the story never tries to claim that it\\\'s inherent, just that it\\\'s the clear social paradigm.
* While some of the teenage/adult clones (who it\\\'s worth mentioning aren\\\'t actually confirmed to be genetically identical, just very similar) are portrayed as sexy, Karkat\\\'s ancestor was never one of them. One version of him is portrayed with zero emphasis on his attractieness one way or the other, although he\\\'s a confirmed celibate. The other had some steady romance, but still doesn\\\'t really have any emphasis on his attractiveness, just his charisma.
