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\\\"2) The writing is just plain bad. Why admitting it is so hard, where there are tons of articles about books, films, games etc. designed especially to openly bash how work in question is bad? Some kind of double standards? The game could easily pass with two separate notes - one for very good gameplay experience (aside of Square Enix trademark trainload of long, plot-driving cutscenes) and one for poor, heavy-handed writting (which becomes very prominent in those cutscenes). \\\"
Separate post to break down how pretentious this one is. Just because the writing falls short in certain areas doesn\\\'t make it bad. This is just the argument about the Dark Knight Rises all over again: the story is a character piece, it\\\'s focusing on Lara\\\'s development, and everything else is secondary. And when it comes to video games the writing and narrative comes across through more then just the cutscenes; the story is told IN the gameplay, the environments, the character animations, the collectables documents and Lara\\\'s comments on said collectables. Just because the writing isn\\\'t what YOU want it to be doesn\\\'t make it bad. Hell, the writing in this game is fucking outstanding, and really puts the Uncharted series and it\\\'s ridiculously thin vainer of even pretending to have a narrative to shame. The game was pitched, presented, marketed as, and shown to have the lions share of focus on Lara\\\'s character growth and development, with everything else in the story serving that purpose. And it was executed beautifully, with Lara starting out the game as one person, and emerging as something else, and hell one of the reasons I really adore the narrative is because it \\\'\\\'doesn\\\'t\\\'\\\' just pretend that\\\'s a positive thing in and of itself. Lara emerges from the island utterly broken, she\\\'s had to do horrible stuff to survive and lost people very important to her. WordOfGod even made the implication that Lara\\\'s conviction to keep adventuring at the end wasn\\\'t because she\\\'s all confident and badass now, but was because she feels the need to keep running because if she slows down long enough to let everything that happened to her sink in then she\\\'ll be crushed under the weight of it all. It really destroys the myth that ANY character development automatically makes a character a better person by the end, because you could make just as much of an argument that Lara is much worse off after she leaves the island then she ever was before.
As the one who added the ClicheStorm example in YMMV, I will freely admit this game can be cringe worthy with how bad it is at times (I\\\'m looking at you, Roth\\\'s death scene), but the positives overwhelmingly outweigh the negatives, story wise. Do not make the ridiculously arrogant assumption that just because YOU didn\\\'t like the story of the game that automatically makes it bad. You having a certain opinion doesn\\\'t make it law. That\\\'s kinda what this whole discussion is basically breaking down to. So don\\\'t just say \\\"oh this story sucks, why can\\\'t you peons just admit that,\\\" because no, it doesn\\\'t. It might to you, but not to everyone else, so if you don\\\'t like the story fine enough, but don\\\'t expect everyone else to march lock step with your outlook, or at the very least please don\\\'t express your opinion like an arrogant genius looking down on us lowly subterrainians who are clearly of inferior taste for liking something when you, oh lord and master of all that is quality, have dubbed it so vile.
Separate post to break down how pretentious this one is. Just because the writing falls short in certain areas doesn\\\'t make it bad. This is just the argument about the Dark Knight Rises all over again: the story is a character piece, it\\\'s focusing on Lara\\\'s development, and everything else is secondary. And when it comes to video games the writing and narrative comes across through more then just the cutscenes; the story is told IN the gameplay, the environments, the character animations, the collectables documents and Lara\\\'s comments on said collectables. Just because the writing isn\\\'t what YOU want it to be doesn\\\'t make it bad. Hell, the writing in this game is fucking outstanding, and really puts the Uncharted series and it\\\'s ridiculously thin vainer of even pretending to have a narrative to shame. The game was pitched, presented, marketed as, and shown to have the lions share of focus on Lara\\\'s character growth and development, with everything else in the story serving that purpose. And it was executed beautifully, with Lara starting out the game as one person, and emerging as something else, and hell one of the reasons I really adore the narrative is because it \\\'\\\'doesn\\\'t\\\'\\\' just pretend that\\\'s a positive thing in and of itself. Lara emerges from the island utterly broken, she\\\'s had to do horrible stuff to survive and lost people very important to her. WordOfGod even made the implication that Lara\\\'s conviction to keep adventuring at the end wasn\\\'t because she\\\'s all confident and badass now, but was because she feels the need to keep running because if she slows down long enough to let everything that happened to her sink in then she\\\'ll be crushed under the weight of it all. It really destroys the myth that ANY character development automatically makes a character a better person by the end, because you could make just as much of an argument that Lara is much worse off after she leaves the island then she ever was before.
As the one who added the ClicheStorm example in YMMV, I will freely admit this game can be cringe worthy with how bad it is at times (I\\\'m looking at you, Roth\\\'s death scene), but the positives overwhelmingly outweigh the negatives, story wise. Do not make the ridiculously arrogant assumption that just because YOU didn\\\'t like the story of the game that automatically makes it bad. You having a certain opinion doesn\\\'t make it law. That\\\'s kinda what this whole discussion is basically breaking down to. So don\\\'t just say \\\"oh this story sucks, why can\\\'t you peons just admit that,\\\" because no, it doesn\\\'t. It might to you, but not to everyone else, so if you don\\\'t like the story fine enough, but don\\\'t expect everyone else to march lock step with your outlook, or at the very least please don\\\'t express your opinion like an arrogant genius looking down on us lowly subterrainians who are clearly of inferior taste for liking something when you, oh lord and master of all that is quality, have dubbed it so vile.
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\\\"2) The writing is just plain bad. Why admitting it is so hard, where there are tons of articles about books, films, games etc. designed especially to openly bash how work in question is bad? Some kind of double standards? The game could easily pass with two separate notes - one for very good gameplay experience (aside of Square Enix trademark trainload of long, plot-driving cutscenes) and one for poor, heavy-handed writting (which becomes very prominent in those cutscenes). \\\"
Separate post to break down how pretentious this one is. Just because the writing falls short in certain areas doesn\\\'t make it bad. This is just the argument about the Dark Knight Rises all over again: the story is a character piece, it\\\'s focusing on Lara\\\'s development, and everything else is secondary. And when it comes to video games the writing and narrative comes across through more then just the cutscenes; the story is told IN the gameplay, the environments, the character animations, the collectables documents and Lara\\\'s comments on said collectables. Just because the writing isn\\\'t what YOU want it to be doesn\\\'t make it bad. Hell, the writing in this game is fucking outstanding, and really puts the Uncharted series and it\\\'s ridiculously thin vainer of even pretending to have a narrative to shame. The game was pitched, presented, marketed as, and shown to have the lions share of focus on Lara\\\'s character growth and development, with everything else in the story serving that purpose. And it was executed beautifully, with Lara starting out the game as one person, and emerging as something else, and hell one of the reasons I really adore the narrative is because it \\\'\\\'doesn\\\'t\\\'\\\' just pretend that\\\'s a positive thing in and of itself. Lara emerges from the island utterly broken, she\\\'s had to do horrible stuff to survive and lost people very important to her. WordOfGod even made the implication that Lara\\\'s conviction to keep adventuring at the end wasn\\\'t because she\\\'s all confident and badass now, but was because she feels the need to keep running because if she slows down long enough to let everything that happened to her sink in then she\\\'ll be crushed under the weight of it all. It really destroys the myth that ANY character development automatically makes a character a better person by the end, because you could make just as much of an argument that Lara is much worse off after she leaves the island then she ever was before.
As the one who added the ClicheStorm example in YMMV, I will freely admit this game can be cringe worthy with how bad it is at times (I\\\'m looking at you, Roth\\\'s death scene), but the positives overwhelmingly outweigh the negatives, story wise. Do not make the ridiculously arrogant assumption that just because YOU didn\\\'t like the story of the game that automatically makes it bad. You having a certain opinion doesn\\\'t make it law. That\\\'s kinda what this whole discussion is basically breaking down to. So don\\\'t just say \\\"oh this story sucks, why can\\\'t you peons just admit that,\\\" because no, it doesn\\\'t. It might to you, but not to everyone else, so if you don\\\'t like the story fine enough, but don\\\'t expect everyone else to march lock step with your outlook.
Separate post to break down how pretentious this one is. Just because the writing falls short in certain areas doesn\\\'t make it bad. This is just the argument about the Dark Knight Rises all over again: the story is a character piece, it\\\'s focusing on Lara\\\'s development, and everything else is secondary. And when it comes to video games the writing and narrative comes across through more then just the cutscenes; the story is told IN the gameplay, the environments, the character animations, the collectables documents and Lara\\\'s comments on said collectables. Just because the writing isn\\\'t what YOU want it to be doesn\\\'t make it bad. Hell, the writing in this game is fucking outstanding, and really puts the Uncharted series and it\\\'s ridiculously thin vainer of even pretending to have a narrative to shame. The game was pitched, presented, marketed as, and shown to have the lions share of focus on Lara\\\'s character growth and development, with everything else in the story serving that purpose. And it was executed beautifully, with Lara starting out the game as one person, and emerging as something else, and hell one of the reasons I really adore the narrative is because it \\\'\\\'doesn\\\'t\\\'\\\' just pretend that\\\'s a positive thing in and of itself. Lara emerges from the island utterly broken, she\\\'s had to do horrible stuff to survive and lost people very important to her. WordOfGod even made the implication that Lara\\\'s conviction to keep adventuring at the end wasn\\\'t because she\\\'s all confident and badass now, but was because she feels the need to keep running because if she slows down long enough to let everything that happened to her sink in then she\\\'ll be crushed under the weight of it all. It really destroys the myth that ANY character development automatically makes a character a better person by the end, because you could make just as much of an argument that Lara is much worse off after she leaves the island then she ever was before.
As the one who added the ClicheStorm example in YMMV, I will freely admit this game can be cringe worthy with how bad it is at times (I\\\'m looking at you, Roth\\\'s death scene), but the positives overwhelmingly outweigh the negatives, story wise. Do not make the ridiculously arrogant assumption that just because YOU didn\\\'t like the story of the game that automatically makes it bad. You having a certain opinion doesn\\\'t make it law. That\\\'s kinda what this whole discussion is basically breaking down to. So don\\\'t just say \\\"oh this story sucks, why can\\\'t you peons just admit that,\\\" because no, it doesn\\\'t. It might to you, but not to everyone else, so if you don\\\'t like the story fine enough, but don\\\'t expect everyone else to march lock step with your outlook.
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\\\"2) The writing is just plain bad. Why admitting it is so hard, where there are tons of articles about books, films, games etc. designed especially to openly bash how work in question is bad? Some kind of double standards? The game could easily pass with two separate notes - one for very good gameplay experience (aside of Square Enix trademark trainload of long, plot-driving cutscenes) and one for poor, heavy-handed writting (which becomes very prominent in those cutscenes). \\\"
Separate post to break down how pretentious this one is. Just because the writing falls short in certain areas doesn\\\'t make it bad. This is just the argument about the Dark Knight Rises all over again: the story is a character piece, it\\\'s focusing on Lara\\\'s development, and everything else is secondary. And when it comes to video games the writing and narrative comes across through more then just the cutscenes; the story is told IN the gameplay, the environments, the character animations, the collectables documents and Lara\\\'s comments on said collectables. Just because the writing isn\\\'t what YOU want it to be doesn\\\'t make it bad. Hell, the writing in this game is fucking outstanding, and really puts the Uncharted series and it\\\'s ridiculously thin vainer of even pretending to have a narrative to shame. The game was pitched, presented, marketed as, and shown to have the lions share of focus on Lara\\\'s character growth and development, with everything else in the story serving that purpose. And it was executed beautifully, with Lara starting out the game as one person, and emerging as something else, and hell one of the reasons I really adore the narrative is because it \\\'\\\'doesn\\\'t\\\'\\\' just pretend that\\\'s a positive thing in and of itself. Lara emerges from the island utterly broken, she\\\'s had to do horrible stuff to survive and lost people very important to her. WordOfGod even made the implication that Lara\\\'s conviction to keep adventuring at the end wasn\\\'t because she\\\'s all confident and badass now, but was because she feels the need to keep running because if she slows down long enough to let everything that happened to her sink in then she\\\'ll be crushed under the weight of it all. It really destroys the myth that ANY character development automatically makes a character a better person by the end, because you could make just as much of an argument that Lara is much worse off after she leaves the island then she ever was before.
Do not make the ridiculously arrogant assumption that just because YOU didn\\\'t like the story of the game that automatically makes it bad. You having a certain opinion doesn\\\'t make it law. That\\\'s kinda what this whole discussion is basically breaking down to. So don\\\'t just say \\\"oh this story sucks, why can\\\'t you peons just admit that,\\\" because no, it doesn\\\'t. It might to you, but not to everyone else, so if you don\\\'t like the story fine enough, but don\\\'t expect everyone else to march lock step with your outlook.
Separate post to break down how pretentious this one is. Just because the writing falls short in certain areas doesn\\\'t make it bad. This is just the argument about the Dark Knight Rises all over again: the story is a character piece, it\\\'s focusing on Lara\\\'s development, and everything else is secondary. And when it comes to video games the writing and narrative comes across through more then just the cutscenes; the story is told IN the gameplay, the environments, the character animations, the collectables documents and Lara\\\'s comments on said collectables. Just because the writing isn\\\'t what YOU want it to be doesn\\\'t make it bad. Hell, the writing in this game is fucking outstanding, and really puts the Uncharted series and it\\\'s ridiculously thin vainer of even pretending to have a narrative to shame. The game was pitched, presented, marketed as, and shown to have the lions share of focus on Lara\\\'s character growth and development, with everything else in the story serving that purpose. And it was executed beautifully, with Lara starting out the game as one person, and emerging as something else, and hell one of the reasons I really adore the narrative is because it \\\'\\\'doesn\\\'t\\\'\\\' just pretend that\\\'s a positive thing in and of itself. Lara emerges from the island utterly broken, she\\\'s had to do horrible stuff to survive and lost people very important to her. WordOfGod even made the implication that Lara\\\'s conviction to keep adventuring at the end wasn\\\'t because she\\\'s all confident and badass now, but was because she feels the need to keep running because if she slows down long enough to let everything that happened to her sink in then she\\\'ll be crushed under the weight of it all. It really destroys the myth that ANY character development automatically makes a character a better person by the end, because you could make just as much of an argument that Lara is much worse off after she leaves the island then she ever was before.
Do not make the ridiculously arrogant assumption that just because YOU didn\\\'t like the story of the game that automatically makes it bad. You having a certain opinion doesn\\\'t make it law. That\\\'s kinda what this whole discussion is basically breaking down to. So don\\\'t just say \\\"oh this story sucks, why can\\\'t you peons just admit that,\\\" because no, it doesn\\\'t. It might to you, but not to everyone else, so if you don\\\'t like the story fine enough, but don\\\'t expect everyone else to march lock step with your outlook.
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* The main cast of the first four \'\'Franchise/StarTrek\'\' series qualify, in a relatively restrained way, adding more to the \
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* The main cast of the first four \\\'\\\'Franchise/StarTrek\\\'\\\' series qualify, in a relatively restrained way, adding more to the \\\"high-class\\\" image of Starfleet and Trek humans than anything else.
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Scrubs}}. Janitor, Cox, Jordan, Kelso, Carla, JD... List goes on and on.
* \\\'\\\'MyFamily\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/MarriedWithChildren\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/ArrestedDevelopment\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'FawltyTowers\\\'\\\'
* [[strike: \\\'\\\'Series/RedDwarf\\\'\\\']]
* Everything JossWhedon has written, ever.
** [[strike:\\\'\\\'Series/{{Firefly}}\\\'\\\']]
** \\\'\\\'Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer\\\'\\\'
** \\\'\\\'[[WebVideo/DoctorHorriblesSingAlongBlog Dr. Horrible]]\\\'\\\'
** \\\'\\\'Series/{{Angel}}\\\'\\\'
* [[strike:\\\'\\\'GilmoreGirls\\\'\\\']]
* \\\'\\\'WizardsOfWaverlyPlace\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/ICarly\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Victorious}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/BigTimeRush\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/That70sShow\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Community}}\\\'\\\'. Especialy Jeff, but all the characters have some pretty good snarks.
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Seinfeld}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'CurbYourEnthusiasm\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/TheBigBangTheory\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'TwoAndAHalfMen\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'CornerGas\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Sherlock}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Elementary}}\\\'\\\'. Must be a Sherlock Holmes thing.
* \\\'\\\'Series/BabylonFive\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'{{Series/Kaamelott}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'{{Agnes}}\\\'\\\'.
* \\\'\\\'BasicInstructions\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'OutThere\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'QuestionableContent\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'ScaryGoRound\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'BadMachinery\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Webcomic/SchlockMercenary\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'SomethingPositive\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'SluggyFreelance\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'WebComic/EightBitTheater\\\'\\\'
* HodgesPond.
* \\\'\\\'Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses\\\'\\\'.
* [[strike:\\\'\\\'Machinima/RedVsBlue\\\'\\\']] - context by Arkady Darell
* \\\'\\\'ZeroPunctuation\\\'\\\', if only because [[CausticCritic its lone inhabitant]] provides [[TheSnarkKnight enough snark]] [[UpToEleven all on his own]] to fill up an entire world.
**(qestionable entry, if it\\\'s one-man-show, I think it doesn\\\'t qualify as WorldOfSnark)
* Teenage superhero teams often result in this. \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/TeenTitans\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/YoungJustice\\\'\\\' are prime examples.
* Adult superhero teams can also have this, as evidenced by \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'[[WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes The Avengers: Earth\\\'s Mightiest Heroes]]\\\'\\\'. Avengers is particularly notable for having \\\'\\\'Hulk\\\'\\\' be a DeadpanSnarker
* \\\'\\\'Any\\\'\\\' WesternAnimation based upon Franchise/{{Spiderman}} must be this trope to qualify as a Spidey cartoon.
* \\\'\\\'TheSimpsons\\\'\\\' can be this at times.
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Scrubs}}. Janitor, Cox, Jordan, Kelso, Carla, JD... List goes on and on.
* \\\'\\\'MyFamily\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/MarriedWithChildren\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/ArrestedDevelopment\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'FawltyTowers\\\'\\\'
* [[strike: \\\'\\\'Series/RedDwarf\\\'\\\']]
* Everything JossWhedon has written, ever.
** [[strike:\\\'\\\'Series/{{Firefly}}\\\'\\\']]
** \\\'\\\'Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer\\\'\\\'
** \\\'\\\'[[WebVideo/DoctorHorriblesSingAlongBlog Dr. Horrible]]\\\'\\\'
** \\\'\\\'Series/{{Angel}}\\\'\\\'
* [[strike:\\\'\\\'GilmoreGirls\\\'\\\']]
* \\\'\\\'WizardsOfWaverlyPlace\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/ICarly\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Victorious}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/BigTimeRush\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/That70sShow\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Community}}\\\'\\\'. Especialy Jeff, but all the characters have some pretty good snarks.
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Seinfeld}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'CurbYourEnthusiasm\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/TheBigBangTheory\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'TwoAndAHalfMen\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'CornerGas\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Sherlock}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Elementary}}\\\'\\\'. Must be a Sherlock Holmes thing.
* \\\'\\\'Series/BabylonFive\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'{{Series/Kaamelott}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'{{Agnes}}\\\'\\\'.
* \\\'\\\'BasicInstructions\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'OutThere\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'QuestionableContent\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'ScaryGoRound\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'BadMachinery\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Webcomic/SchlockMercenary\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'SomethingPositive\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'SluggyFreelance\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'WebComic/EightBitTheater\\\'\\\'
* HodgesPond.
* \\\'\\\'Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses\\\'\\\'.
* [[strike:\\\'\\\'Machinima/RedVsBlue\\\'\\\']] - context by Arkady Darell
* \\\'\\\'ZeroPunctuation\\\'\\\', if only because [[CausticCritic its lone inhabitant]] provides [[TheSnarkKnight enough snark]] [[UpToEleven all on his own]] to fill up an entire world.
**(qestionable entry, if it\\\'s one-man-show, I think it doesn\\\'t qualify as WorldOfSnark)
* Teenage superhero teams often result in this. \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/TeenTitans\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/YoungJustice\\\'\\\' are prime examples.
* Adult superhero teams can also have this, as evidenced by \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'[[WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes The Avengers: Earth\\\'s Mightiest Heroes]]\\\'\\\'. Avengers is particularly notable for having \\\'\\\'Hulk\\\'\\\' be a DeadpanSnarker
* \\\'\\\'Any\\\'\\\' WesternAnimation based upon Franchise/{{Spiderman}} must be this trope to qualify as a Spidey cartoon.
* \\\'\\\'TheSimpsons\\\'\\\' can be this at times.
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* The main cast of the first four \'\'Franchise/StarTrek\'\' series qualify, in a relatively restrained way, adding more to the \
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* The main cast of the first four \\\'\\\'Franchise/StarTrek\\\'\\\' series qualify, in a relatively restrained way, adding more to the \\\"high-class\\\" image of Starfleet and Trek humans than anything else.
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Scrubs}}. Janitor, Cox, Jordan, Kelso, Carla, JD... List goes on and on.
* \\\'\\\'MyFamily\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/MarriedWithChildren\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/ArrestedDevelopment\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'FawltyTowers\\\'\\\'
* [[strike: \\\'\\\'Series/RedDwarf\\\'\\\']]
* Everything JossWhedon has written, ever.
** [[strike:\\\'\\\'Series/{{Firefly}}\\\'\\\']]
** \\\'\\\'Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer\\\'\\\'
** \\\'\\\'[[WebVideo/DoctorHorriblesSingAlongBlog Dr. Horrible]]\\\'\\\'
** \\\'\\\'Series/{{Angel}}\\\'\\\'
* [[strike:\\\'\\\'GilmoreGirls\\\'\\\']]
* \\\'\\\'WizardsOfWaverlyPlace\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/ICarly\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Victorious}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/BigTimeRush\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/That70sShow\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Community}}\\\'\\\'. Especialy Jeff, but all the characters have some pretty good snarks.
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Seinfeld}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'CurbYourEnthusiasm\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/TheBigBangTheory\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'TwoAndAHalfMen\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'CornerGas\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Sherlock}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Elementary}}\\\'\\\'. Must be a Sherlock Holmes thing.
* \\\'\\\'Series/BabylonFive\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'{{Series/Kaamelott}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'{{Agnes}}\\\'\\\'.
* \\\'\\\'BasicInstructions\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'OutThere\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'QuestionableContent\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'ScaryGoRound\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'BadMachinery\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Webcomic/SchlockMercenary\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'SomethingPositive\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'SluggyFreelance\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'WebComic/EightBitTheater\\\'\\\'
* HodgesPond.
* \\\'\\\'Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses\\\'\\\'.
* \\\'\\\'Machinima/RedVsBlue\\\'\\\'.
* \\\'\\\'ZeroPunctuation\\\'\\\', if only because [[CausticCritic its lone inhabitant]] provides [[TheSnarkKnight enough snark]] [[UpToEleven all on his own]] to fill up an entire world.
**(qestionable entry, if it\\\'s one-man-show, I think it doesn\\\'t qualify as WorldOfSnark)
* Teenage superhero teams often result in this. \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/TeenTitans\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/YoungJustice\\\'\\\' are prime examples.
* Adult superhero teams can also have this, as evidenced by \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'[[WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes The Avengers: Earth\\\'s Mightiest Heroes]]\\\'\\\'. Avengers is particularly notable for having \\\'\\\'Hulk\\\'\\\' be a DeadpanSnarker
* \\\'\\\'Any\\\'\\\' WesternAnimation based upon Franchise/{{Spiderman}} must be this trope to qualify as a Spidey cartoon.
* \\\'\\\'TheSimpsons\\\'\\\' can be this at times.
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Scrubs}}. Janitor, Cox, Jordan, Kelso, Carla, JD... List goes on and on.
* \\\'\\\'MyFamily\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/MarriedWithChildren\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/ArrestedDevelopment\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'FawltyTowers\\\'\\\'
* [[strike: \\\'\\\'Series/RedDwarf\\\'\\\']]
* Everything JossWhedon has written, ever.
** [[strike:\\\'\\\'Series/{{Firefly}}\\\'\\\']]
** \\\'\\\'Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer\\\'\\\'
** \\\'\\\'[[WebVideo/DoctorHorriblesSingAlongBlog Dr. Horrible]]\\\'\\\'
** \\\'\\\'Series/{{Angel}}\\\'\\\'
* [[strike:\\\'\\\'GilmoreGirls\\\'\\\']]
* \\\'\\\'WizardsOfWaverlyPlace\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/ICarly\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Victorious}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/BigTimeRush\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/That70sShow\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Community}}\\\'\\\'. Especialy Jeff, but all the characters have some pretty good snarks.
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Seinfeld}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'CurbYourEnthusiasm\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/TheBigBangTheory\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'TwoAndAHalfMen\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'CornerGas\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Sherlock}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Elementary}}\\\'\\\'. Must be a Sherlock Holmes thing.
* \\\'\\\'Series/BabylonFive\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'{{Series/Kaamelott}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'{{Agnes}}\\\'\\\'.
* \\\'\\\'BasicInstructions\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'OutThere\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'QuestionableContent\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'ScaryGoRound\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'BadMachinery\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Webcomic/SchlockMercenary\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'SomethingPositive\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'SluggyFreelance\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'WebComic/EightBitTheater\\\'\\\'
* HodgesPond.
* \\\'\\\'Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses\\\'\\\'.
* \\\'\\\'Machinima/RedVsBlue\\\'\\\'.
* \\\'\\\'ZeroPunctuation\\\'\\\', if only because [[CausticCritic its lone inhabitant]] provides [[TheSnarkKnight enough snark]] [[UpToEleven all on his own]] to fill up an entire world.
**(qestionable entry, if it\\\'s one-man-show, I think it doesn\\\'t qualify as WorldOfSnark)
* Teenage superhero teams often result in this. \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/TeenTitans\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/YoungJustice\\\'\\\' are prime examples.
* Adult superhero teams can also have this, as evidenced by \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'[[WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes The Avengers: Earth\\\'s Mightiest Heroes]]\\\'\\\'. Avengers is particularly notable for having \\\'\\\'Hulk\\\'\\\' be a DeadpanSnarker
* \\\'\\\'Any\\\'\\\' WesternAnimation based upon Franchise/{{Spiderman}} must be this trope to qualify as a Spidey cartoon.
* \\\'\\\'TheSimpsons\\\'\\\' can be this at times.
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* The main cast of the first four \'\'Franchise/StarTrek\'\' series qualify, in a relatively restrained way, adding more to the \
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* The main cast of the first four \\\'\\\'Franchise/StarTrek\\\'\\\' series qualify, in a relatively restrained way, adding more to the \\\"high-class\\\" image of Starfleet and Trek humans than anything else.
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Scrubs}}. Janitor, Cox, Jordan, Kelso, Carla, JD... List goes on and on.
* \\\'\\\'MyFamily\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/MarriedWithChildren\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/ArrestedDevelopment\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'FawltyTowers\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/RedDwarf\\\'\\\'
* Everything JossWhedon has written, ever.
** \\\'\\\'Series/{{Firefly}}\\\'\\\'
** \\\'\\\'Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer\\\'\\\'
** \\\'\\\'[[WebVideo/DoctorHorriblesSingAlongBlog Dr. Horrible]]\\\'\\\'
** \\\'\\\'Series/{{Angel}}\\\'\\\'
[[strike: * \\\'\\\'GilmoreGirls\\\'\\\']]
* \\\'\\\'WizardsOfWaverlyPlace\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/ICarly\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Victorious}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/BigTimeRush\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/That70sShow\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Community}}\\\'\\\'. Especialy Jeff, but all the characters have some pretty good snarks.
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Seinfeld}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'CurbYourEnthusiasm\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/TheBigBangTheory\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'TwoAndAHalfMen\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'CornerGas\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Sherlock}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Elementary}}\\\'\\\'. Must be a Sherlock Holmes thing.
* \\\'\\\'Series/BabylonFive\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'{{Series/Kaamelott}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'{{Agnes}}\\\'\\\'.
* \\\'\\\'BasicInstructions\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'OutThere\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'QuestionableContent\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'ScaryGoRound\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'BadMachinery\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Webcomic/SchlockMercenary\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'SomethingPositive\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'SluggyFreelance\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'WebComic/EightBitTheater\\\'\\\'
* HodgesPond.
* \\\'\\\'Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses\\\'\\\'.
* \\\'\\\'Machinima/RedVsBlue\\\'\\\'.
* \\\'\\\'ZeroPunctuation\\\'\\\', if only because [[CausticCritic its lone inhabitant]] provides [[TheSnarkKnight enough snark]] [[UpToEleven all on his own]] to fill up an entire world.
**(qestionable entry, if it\\\'s one-man-show, I think it doesn\\\'t qualify as WorldOfSnark)
* Teenage superhero teams often result in this. \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/TeenTitans\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/YoungJustice\\\'\\\' are prime examples.
* Adult superhero teams can also have this, as evidenced by \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'[[WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes The Avengers: Earth\\\'s Mightiest Heroes]]\\\'\\\'. Avengers is particularly notable for having \\\'\\\'Hulk\\\'\\\' be a DeadpanSnarker
* \\\'\\\'Any\\\'\\\' WesternAnimation based upon Franchise/{{Spiderman}} must be this trope to qualify as a Spidey cartoon.
* \\\'\\\'TheSimpsons\\\'\\\' can be this at times.
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Scrubs}}. Janitor, Cox, Jordan, Kelso, Carla, JD... List goes on and on.
* \\\'\\\'MyFamily\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/MarriedWithChildren\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/ArrestedDevelopment\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'FawltyTowers\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/RedDwarf\\\'\\\'
* Everything JossWhedon has written, ever.
** \\\'\\\'Series/{{Firefly}}\\\'\\\'
** \\\'\\\'Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer\\\'\\\'
** \\\'\\\'[[WebVideo/DoctorHorriblesSingAlongBlog Dr. Horrible]]\\\'\\\'
** \\\'\\\'Series/{{Angel}}\\\'\\\'
[[strike: * \\\'\\\'GilmoreGirls\\\'\\\']]
* \\\'\\\'WizardsOfWaverlyPlace\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/ICarly\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Victorious}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/BigTimeRush\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/That70sShow\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Community}}\\\'\\\'. Especialy Jeff, but all the characters have some pretty good snarks.
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Seinfeld}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'CurbYourEnthusiasm\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/TheBigBangTheory\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'TwoAndAHalfMen\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'CornerGas\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Sherlock}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Series/{{Elementary}}\\\'\\\'. Must be a Sherlock Holmes thing.
* \\\'\\\'Series/BabylonFive\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'{{Series/Kaamelott}}\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'{{Agnes}}\\\'\\\'.
* \\\'\\\'BasicInstructions\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'OutThere\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'QuestionableContent\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'ScaryGoRound\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'BadMachinery\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'Webcomic/SchlockMercenary\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'SomethingPositive\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'SluggyFreelance\\\'\\\'
* \\\'\\\'WebComic/EightBitTheater\\\'\\\'
* HodgesPond.
* \\\'\\\'Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses\\\'\\\'.
* \\\'\\\'Machinima/RedVsBlue\\\'\\\'.
* \\\'\\\'ZeroPunctuation\\\'\\\', if only because [[CausticCritic its lone inhabitant]] provides [[TheSnarkKnight enough snark]] [[UpToEleven all on his own]] to fill up an entire world.
**(qestionable entry, if it\\\'s one-man-show, I think it doesn\\\'t qualify as WorldOfSnark)
* Teenage superhero teams often result in this. \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/TeenTitans\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/YoungJustice\\\'\\\' are prime examples.
* Adult superhero teams can also have this, as evidenced by \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'[[WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes The Avengers: Earth\\\'s Mightiest Heroes]]\\\'\\\'. Avengers is particularly notable for having \\\'\\\'Hulk\\\'\\\' be a DeadpanSnarker
* \\\'\\\'Any\\\'\\\' WesternAnimation based upon Franchise/{{Spiderman}} must be this trope to qualify as a Spidey cartoon.
* \\\'\\\'TheSimpsons\\\'\\\' can be this at times.
