Discussion History Main / KarmaHoudini

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To make it clear: I put the bold notes up in order to prevent more annoyance and people accidentally putting examples they shouldn\'t. It\'s in order to help other tropers and should not be taken as an endorsement of the villain-only policy. I do endorse cutting down on ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike, as I said above, but banning all non-villains from the KarmaHoudini trope is just throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

Unless a majority of mods agree that the trope needs to be villain only I really think there should be a vote on it, because honestly a lot of times non-villains really \'\'are\'\' Karma Houdinis. Saying they\'re not might cut down on complaining but it\'s also... well, kind of lying.

Point is, I think there are better ways to cut down on complaining.

EDIT: I think I\'d also like a definition of villain as it\'s being used here. Are we defining villains as antagonists, or just characters who are evil and/or commit atrocities? If it\'s the latter then that totally \'\'can\'\' include the JerkassHero.

Unless a majority of mods (not just one guy) agree that the trope needs to be villain only I really think there should be a vote on it, because honestly a lot of times non-villains really \'\'are\'\' Karma Houdinis. Saying they\'re not might cut down on complaining but it\'s also... well, kind of lying.

Point is, I think there are better ways to cut down on complaining.

To the mod who decided that, I recognize that as a mod you do have authority over us regular tropers. I also recognize that you\'re a normal human being. You\'re no more intelligent and no less susceptible to bias than the rest of us. Unless a majority of mods agree that this trope needs to be villain only I really think we need a vote because, honestly, there is no reason in the world why we can\'t let people bring up non-villains as long as it\'s a good example.