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I really think people treat this trope as more meta than it\'s intended to be. NeverASelfMadeWoman is not TheSmurfettePrinciple. The vast majority of the description concerns in-universe guidelines. Being the only woman on the team has no relevance to Peggy\'s in-universe background--she doesn\'t chase after her goals because of a father\'s example, she doesn\'t find herself on a team for the sole reason that she was with her boyfriend when the plot hit, and there is not the slightest suggestion that she should or will step down from her position because she\'s fallen in love and thus clearly has a future of marriage and family and babies to concentrate on instead.

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I really think people treat this trope as more meta than it\\\'s intended to be. NeverASelfMadeWoman is not TheSmurfettePrinciple. The vast majority of the description concerns in-universe guidelines. Being the only woman on the team has no relevance to Peggy\\\'s in-universe background--she doesn\\\'t chase after her goals because of a father\\\'s example, she doesn\\\'t find herself on a team for the sole reason that she was with her boyfriend when the plot hit, and there is not the slightest suggestion that she should or will step down from her position because she\\\'s fallen in love and thus clearly has a future of marriage and family and babies to concentrate on instead.

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We see her trucking around doing work for the SSR, training soldiers, being the only person with the immediate presence of mind to follow the gunner who shot Erskine. They\'re not things with a huge impact on the plot, but they are there, and more to the point, they\'re things that are unrelated to Steve.

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We see her trucking around doing work for the SSR, training soldiers, being the only person with the immediate presence of mind to follow the gunner who shot Erskine. They\\\'re not things with a huge impact on the plot, but they are there, and more to the point, they\\\'re things that are unrelated to Steve.

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Furthermore, the most significant things Peggy does for Steve are not framed in terms of their budding romance. When she encourages him to pursue something greater, she doesn\'t say it\'s because she believes in him; she namechecks Erskine. When she tries to comfort him about Bucky\'s death, there\'s nothing romantic or feminine in her approach--she doesn\'t hug him or touch him in any way that puts her affection at the front of the scene. She\'s there as a friend, because her friend is grieving and she\'s concerned for him. When she\'s invading the base with everyone at the end, it\'s not because she\'s standing by her man, it\'s because she\'s doing her job as a member of the team.

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Furthermore, the most significant things Peggy does for Steve are not framed in terms of their budding romance. When she encourages him to pursue something greater, she doesn\\\'t say it\\\'s because she believes in him; she namechecks Erskine. When she tries to comfort him about Bucky\\\'s death, there\\\'s nothing romantic or feminine in her approach--she doesn\\\'t hug him or touch him in any way that puts her affection at the front of the scene. She\\\'s there as a friend, because her friend is grieving and she\\\'s concerned for him. When she\\\'s invading the base with everyone at the end, it\\\'s not because she\\\'s standing by her man, it\\\'s because she\\\'s doing her job as a member of the team.

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