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Yup, i definitely too obsessed with this, cuz i checked out the novelization in the bookstore. I know novelizations can deviate a little from the original script, but hear me out. In the climactic scene where the police attack Banes forces and Batman approaches Bane, the writing switches to Banes own internal narration. He himself muses that when he destroys Gotham and kills Batman once and for all, he will be cemented as Ra\'s Al Ghuls TRUE successor in front of the whole world. He then looks up at a window to see Talia watching him. He blithely thinks, \
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Yup, i definitely too obsessed with this, cuz i checked out the novelization in the bookstore. I know novelizations can deviate a little from the original script, but hear me out.
In the climactic scene where the police attack Bane\\\'s forces and Batman approaches Bane, the writing switches to Banes own internal narration. He himself muses that when he destroys Gotham and kills Batman once and for all, he will be cemented as Ra\\\'s Al Ghuls TRUE successor in front of the whole world. He then looks up at a window to see Talia watching him. He blithely thinks, \\\"Well good, this time she can watch me destroy the Dark Knight if she wants to.\\\"
He then enters the final battle will Batman. The novelization differs a little bit in that it is Bane who kicks Batman into the Hall of Justice before Batman attacks his mask. He has Batman on the ground, and Talia and a group of her mercenaries approach him. Bane actually turns around to scream at her \\\"NO! HE IS MINE!\\\" Talia and Co. actually back off at his command. Then Batman hits his mask and the novel proceeds essentially as the movie did, Reveal and all.
Now i know a novelization doesnt count as Word of God in the strictest sense. However, it does adapt the script very well, and the way Bane is written not only defies Dragon categorization, it goes one step further and implies that TALIA is his dragon. When the novel switches to his POV in her presence, it seems to confirm the characterization of a deceitful manipulator and mastermind who uses Talias resources without really caring about her wishes, rather than an Undyingly Loyal lovesick puppy dog who did everything as per her command for her cover.
The former is the impression i got in the movie, thats all. Its just that when people both inside and outside this site refer to him as the \\\"secretly brainless lovesick henchman that is Hilariously in Hindsight like his incarnation in Batman And Robin,\\\" they seem to forget two critical scenes.
The scenes in question would be where Commissioner Gordon escapes from the sewers and Bane inspects his final speech. He later uses this same speech as part of the plan to break open Blackgate prison and ensure chaos. It seems unlikely that he contacted Miranda between these two scenes, given what a police state Gotham has been established to be, the fact that the CIA is after him, the fact that he cant take off his signature mask, etc.
The other scene would he where he flagrantly disobeys Talias (presumably) last wishes and tries to execute Batman on the spot. If Nolan intended everything Bane ever did to be in utter service of Talias machinations, then that scene makes no sense what so ever.
Given that Talia never asserts herself as his superior, nor he her inferior, i just dont understand why he is the dragon. Especially in light of the argument that he was willing to blow up 12 MILLION MEN WOMEN AND CHILDREN because he just decided to follow a little girl entirely dependant on him for the rest of his natural life.
I just don\\\'t think that motivation makes sense when the movie itself offers other ones, such as during the scene with him fighting Batman, or when he is talking to Batman in the pit.
In the climactic scene where the police attack Bane\\\'s forces and Batman approaches Bane, the writing switches to Banes own internal narration. He himself muses that when he destroys Gotham and kills Batman once and for all, he will be cemented as Ra\\\'s Al Ghuls TRUE successor in front of the whole world. He then looks up at a window to see Talia watching him. He blithely thinks, \\\"Well good, this time she can watch me destroy the Dark Knight if she wants to.\\\"
He then enters the final battle will Batman. The novelization differs a little bit in that it is Bane who kicks Batman into the Hall of Justice before Batman attacks his mask. He has Batman on the ground, and Talia and a group of her mercenaries approach him. Bane actually turns around to scream at her \\\"NO! HE IS MINE!\\\" Talia and Co. actually back off at his command. Then Batman hits his mask and the novel proceeds essentially as the movie did, Reveal and all.
Now i know a novelization doesnt count as Word of God in the strictest sense. However, it does adapt the script very well, and the way Bane is written not only defies Dragon categorization, it goes one step further and implies that TALIA is his dragon. When the novel switches to his POV in her presence, it seems to confirm the characterization of a deceitful manipulator and mastermind who uses Talias resources without really caring about her wishes, rather than an Undyingly Loyal lovesick puppy dog who did everything as per her command for her cover.
The former is the impression i got in the movie, thats all. Its just that when people both inside and outside this site refer to him as the \\\"secretly brainless lovesick henchman that is Hilariously in Hindsight like his incarnation in Batman And Robin,\\\" they seem to forget two critical scenes.
The scenes in question would be where Commissioner Gordon escapes from the sewers and Bane inspects his final speech. He later uses this same speech as part of the plan to break open Blackgate prison and ensure chaos. It seems unlikely that he contacted Miranda between these two scenes, given what a police state Gotham has been established to be, the fact that the CIA is after him, the fact that he cant take off his signature mask, etc.
The other scene would he where he flagrantly disobeys Talias (presumably) last wishes and tries to execute Batman on the spot. If Nolan intended everything Bane ever did to be in utter service of Talias machinations, then that scene makes no sense what so ever.
Given that Talia never asserts herself as his superior, nor he her inferior, i just dont understand why he is the dragon. Especially in light of the argument that he was willing to blow up 12 MILLION MEN WOMEN AND CHILDREN because he just decided to follow a little girl entirely dependant on him for the rest of his natural life.
I just don\\\'t think that motivation makes sense when the movie itself offers other ones, such as during the scene with him fighting Batman, or when he is talking to Batman in the pit.
