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-->\\\'\\\'\\\"And does the disappearance of magic need justification, considering that it never existed?\\\"\\\'\\\'
You\\\'re still not getting it, and I suspect you\\\'re trying not to.
-->\\\'\\\'\\\"I\\\'m trying to have the entry state that magic started disappearing about 100 years ago, and the barrier was set up around Gensoukyou to keep magic within it. The big argument we had last time was over the nature of the barrier, not these facts, which you appeared to agree to be accurate.\\\"\\\'\\\'
Except that we never once did discuss your claim that magic vanished from the Touhou world. In fact, one of the very first things I said was:
-->From reading the various Touhou stuff, it seems more to me that Gensokyo is an attempt by ZUN to \\\"plausibly\\\" explain why the magic went away in Real Life, rather than being created because the magic went away. Yet a lot of fans seem to take it the latter way rather than the former.
The more I read from official Touhou sources, the more this became apparent. The problem for youkai wasn\\\'t a disappearance of magic, but that humans were becoming more empirical and more informed as a whole. What is clear is that the youkai created Gensokyo as a way to continue their way of life as rulers of the \\\"night.\\\" Whether or not their very existence hinges upon it falls within the realm of fanon theories.
The same is true for magic. What you claim are facts are not facts at all, but your personal fanon theories. Magic exists elsewhere in the Touhou theme, not just in Gensokyo, and as stated from sources like Perfect Cherry Blossom, youkai can still leave Gensokyo by way of their magical powers, mostly for kidnapping humans.
What\\\'s going on here is that Gensokyo is acting as something along these tropes: {{Masquerade}} and PlausibleDeniability. \\\'\\\'\\\'That\\\'s\\\'\\\'\\\' what I keep trying to tell you.
Magic isn\\\'t dead in the Touhou universe, but to humans it appears to have gone away. That many youkai now live within Gensokyo is the reason magic appears to have went away, hence the [[JustifiedTrope Justification]]--the PlausibleDeniability, where most of Touhou\\\'s events take place in a world sealed off from our own and yet its inhabitants can still affect it if they wish. The world of Touhou is a sort of {{masquerade}} where Gensokyo acts as a vehicle for PlausibleDeniability.
Now that I\\\'ve been able to locate the relevant tropes, do you understand where I\\\'m coming from?
You\\\'re still not getting it, and I suspect you\\\'re trying not to.
-->\\\'\\\'\\\"I\\\'m trying to have the entry state that magic started disappearing about 100 years ago, and the barrier was set up around Gensoukyou to keep magic within it. The big argument we had last time was over the nature of the barrier, not these facts, which you appeared to agree to be accurate.\\\"\\\'\\\'
Except that we never once did discuss your claim that magic vanished from the Touhou world. In fact, one of the very first things I said was:
-->From reading the various Touhou stuff, it seems more to me that Gensokyo is an attempt by ZUN to \\\"plausibly\\\" explain why the magic went away in Real Life, rather than being created because the magic went away. Yet a lot of fans seem to take it the latter way rather than the former.
The more I read from official Touhou sources, the more this became apparent. The problem for youkai wasn\\\'t a disappearance of magic, but that humans were becoming more empirical and more informed as a whole. What is clear is that the youkai created Gensokyo as a way to continue their way of life as rulers of the \\\"night.\\\" Whether or not their very existence hinges upon it falls within the realm of fanon theories.
The same is true for magic. What you claim are facts are not facts at all, but your personal fanon theories. Magic exists elsewhere in the Touhou theme, not just in Gensokyo, and as stated from sources like Perfect Cherry Blossom, youkai can still leave Gensokyo by way of their magical powers, mostly for kidnapping humans.
What\\\'s going on here is that Gensokyo is acting as something along these tropes: {{Masquerade}} and PlausibleDeniability. \\\'\\\'\\\'That\\\'s\\\'\\\'\\\' what I keep trying to tell you.
Magic isn\\\'t dead in the Touhou universe, but to humans it appears to have gone away. That many youkai now live within Gensokyo is the reason magic appears to have went away, hence the [[JustifiedTrope Justification]]--the PlausibleDeniability, where most of Touhou\\\'s events take place in a world sealed off from our own and yet its inhabitants can still affect it if they wish. The world of Touhou is a sort of {{masquerade}} where Gensokyo acts as a vehicle for PlausibleDeniability.
Now that I\\\'ve been able to locate the relevant tropes, do you understand where I\\\'m coming from?
