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[002] MajinGojira Current Version

21st Apr '12 at 06:14:33 PM

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\'\'Well, I always thought that strong atheism is more about the definite belief (for lack of a better word) that there is no such thing as a supernatural god (will be silly if they believe that Alexander the Great doesn\'t exist) and doesn\'t include active opposition to religion, which is in the realm do anti-theism.\'\'

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\\\'\\\'Well, I always thought that strong atheism is more about the definite belief (for lack of a better word) that there is no such thing as a supernatural god (will be silly if they believe that Alexander the Great doesn\\\'t exist) and doesn\\\'t include active opposition to religion, which is in the realm do anti-theism.

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Actually, the philosophy of Secularism covers that lack of a belief in supernatural better.

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However, there\\\'s still a problem of some of the examples in the title that gives the vibe that this page is a massive Take That against all religions and atheists and antithesis can do no wrong.

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\'\'However, there\'s still a problem of some of the examples in the title that gives the vibe that this page is a massive Take That against all religions and atheists and antithesis can do no wrong.\'\'

You\'re looking at it from the wrong perspective. Given that Communism is explicitly mention, and is indeed an Atheistic (or \

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For example, where in Buddhists texts that tells Buddhists that people from other religions are \\\"infidels\\\" and can be killed? If there\\\'s none then those Buddhists in ancient China were not adhering to Buddhist ideas and calling them \\\"Buddhist fundamentalists\\\" is like calling an atheist psycho murderer \\\"an atheist fundamentalist\\\"- their actions have nothing to do with their philosophy at all.

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21st Apr '12 at 06:13:25 PM

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Well, I always thought that strong atheism is more about the definite belief (for lack of a better word) that there is no such thing as a supernatural god (will be silly if they believe that Alexander the Great doesn\'t exist) and doesn\'t include active opposition to religion, which is in the realm do anti-theism. I actually think that Communism is an anti-theistic philosophy: it\'s just that it also includes ideas about politics and society (apart from the bit about religion being the poison of the people) that makes it different from pure anti-theism.

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\\\'\\\'Well, I always thought that strong atheism is more about the definite belief (for lack of a better word) that there is no such thing as a supernatural god (will be silly if they believe that Alexander the Great doesn\\\'t exist) and doesn\\\'t include active opposition to religion, which is in the realm do anti-theism.\\\'\\\'

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However, there\'s still a problem of some of the examples in the title that gives the vibe that this page is a massive Take That against all religions and atheists and antithesis can do no wrong. For example, where in Buddhists texts that tells Buddhists that people from other religions are \

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Actually, the philosophy of Secularism covers that lack of a belief in supernatural better.

\\\'\\\'However, there\\\'s still a problem of some of the examples in the title that gives the vibe that this page is a massive Take That against all religions and atheists and antithesis can do no wrong.\\\'\\\'

You\\\'re looking at it from the wrong perspective. Given that Communism is explicitly mention, and is indeed an Atheistic (or \\\"Anti-Theistic\\\" in your statement), Atheist philosophies are already covered within. Furthermore, Atheism is, like Theism, simply inapplicable to the subject matter. So you\\\'re off on two counts.

\\\'\\\'For example, where in Buddhists texts that tells Buddhists that people from other religions are \\\"infidels\\\" and can be killed? If there\\\'s none then those Buddhists in ancient China were not adhering to Buddhist ideas and calling them \\\"Buddhist fundamentalists\\\" is like calling an atheist psycho murderer \\\"an atheist fundamentalist\\\"- their actions have nothing to do with their philosophy at all.\\\'\\\'

Fundementalism isn\\\'t just definied by how a believer adheres to the tennants, but how they treat others. Compare Christian Fundies like those who bomb abortion clinics with the good quotes of Jesus.

That said, I didn\\\'t add that example and am unsure of its veracity. It seemed plausible, but I\\\'d love to see verification of it. Of course, the main thing I have for it was a talk which attacked the phrase \\\"Religion of Peace\\\" given by an Atheistic speaker where he eventually deduced that Jainism was the only true \\\"Religion of Peace\\\" out there as none of its tenants could be twisted to cause harm to others.

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