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*** Although it\'s never established, MartianManhunter\'s adopted home city where he kept his detective identity from his earliest appearances is Apex City, Florida in {{Fanon}} -- because it\'s a coastal city with a warm climate, their mascot is the Flamingo, and most of the businesses start with the name \
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*** Although it\\\'s never established, MartianManhunter\\\'s adopted home city where he kept his detective identity from his earliest appearances is Apex City, Florida in {{Fanon}} -- because it\\\'s a coastal city with a warm climate, their mascot is the Flamingo, and most of the businesses start with the name \\\"Apex\\\".
I really don\\\'t get the tendency to list fictional cities that are placed in a real-life state on this page. Short of giving latitude and longitude coordinates, or naming the exact interstate exit, how much more detailed can the setting get? This trope is about deliberately vague and contradictory locations, not just fictional cities.
* The Marvel universe avoids this for the most part by using only [[strike:[[BigApplesauce New York City]]]] real-world American cities.
** Except for Wakanda, Latveria, Atlantis, etc.
If we listed every story that uses real-life cities, there wouldn\\\'t be any room for the rest of the tropes. :)
Also, removing...
* The city in \\\'\\\'TheMatrix\\\'\\\' was never explicitly named, and it certainly wasn\\\'t New York. Street names are taken from the Wachowski brothers\\\' hometown of Chicago. [[spoiler:It was filmed in Sydney.]]
**[[spoiler: This may not be a good example, since there is only one city in the Matrix, and it takes up the majority of the acreage.]]
Since the city is its own self-contained universe.
Annnnd...
*** I\\\'m pretty sure that \\\'\\\'Jason Goes to Hell\\\'\\\' makes it more or less clear that Crystal Lake is also in Ohio, if memory serves, so naturally it would be within a couple of hours\\\' driving distance. And I\\\'m pretty *damn* sure that no one in the first \\\'\\\'Nightmare\\\'\\\' film says they\\\'re in L.A.
ThisTroper (grr), ThreadMode, and as for the substance of the comment... there are \\\'\\\'palm trees\\\'\\\' prominently on display in the first movie. It\\\'s not Ohio, at least not at first. Crystal Lake also isn\\\'t in Ohio, as \\\"Jason Takes Manhattan\\\" would make no sense if it were (there\\\'s no ocean route that could take a boat from a lake in Ohio to Manhattan Island in a few days). Both movie franchises have been deliberately having fun with this trope over the years, so there\\\'s no need to defend them with fan guesswork.
And removing this one, tentatively...
* The \\\'\\\'HarryPotter\\\'\\\' series has a number of fictional locations whose whereabouts are never pinpointed, although:
** The first book explicitly places Little Whinging in Surrey.
*** The films agree; in the \\\'\\\'Order of the Phoenix\\\'\\\' movie, when the (presumably) local weather report shows the area. This is sort-of-confirmed by an early scene in the \\\'\\\'Half-Blood Prince\\\'\\\' movie, which takes place at Surbiton railway station, which is in south-west London near the Surrey border.
** Godric\\\'s Hollow is probably in the West Country.
** Hogwarts is obviously somewhere in the Highlands of Scotland.
** The Ministry of Magic is somewhere in central London, as is St. Mungo\\\'s; the latter is in one of London\\\'s major shopping streets, probably Oxford Street.
** Ottery St. Catchpole is implied to be in Devon or Exeter.
** Spinner\\\'s End is OopNorth in an old mill town with a river flowing through it.
** Little Hangleton is implied to be somewhere else OopNorth.
** Azkaban is somewhere in the North Sea.
The UK\\\'s not all that huge geographically, and most of these locations seem to have been narrowed down to specific counties. Like the DC example, I\\\'m not sure how much more specific Rowling could get.
And again...
* \\\'\\\'TheRockyHorrorPictureShow\\\'\\\'\\\'s Brad and Janet are from Denton, Ohio. This city doesn\\\'t exist, but writer Richard O\\\'Brien named the city Denton because there are many of them in the US. The sequel \\\'\\\'ShockTreatment\\\'\\\' explicitly takes place in \\\"Denton, USA!\\\"
If the state is named, then there\\\'s no mystery. I think there\\\'s some serious confusion going on with this trope, and people are just putting every fictional city here. It has to be deliberately vague, like Angel Grove having every climate imaginable as the plot demands, or Springfield and all its geographical anomalies. If it\\\'s actually set in a real-life state, that\\\'s about as specific as any story can get without giving local {{Shout Out}}s.
I really don\\\'t get the tendency to list fictional cities that are placed in a real-life state on this page. Short of giving latitude and longitude coordinates, or naming the exact interstate exit, how much more detailed can the setting get? This trope is about deliberately vague and contradictory locations, not just fictional cities.
* The Marvel universe avoids this for the most part by using only [[strike:[[BigApplesauce New York City]]]] real-world American cities.
** Except for Wakanda, Latveria, Atlantis, etc.
If we listed every story that uses real-life cities, there wouldn\\\'t be any room for the rest of the tropes. :)
Also, removing...
* The city in \\\'\\\'TheMatrix\\\'\\\' was never explicitly named, and it certainly wasn\\\'t New York. Street names are taken from the Wachowski brothers\\\' hometown of Chicago. [[spoiler:It was filmed in Sydney.]]
**[[spoiler: This may not be a good example, since there is only one city in the Matrix, and it takes up the majority of the acreage.]]
Since the city is its own self-contained universe.
Annnnd...
*** I\\\'m pretty sure that \\\'\\\'Jason Goes to Hell\\\'\\\' makes it more or less clear that Crystal Lake is also in Ohio, if memory serves, so naturally it would be within a couple of hours\\\' driving distance. And I\\\'m pretty *damn* sure that no one in the first \\\'\\\'Nightmare\\\'\\\' film says they\\\'re in L.A.
ThisTroper (grr), ThreadMode, and as for the substance of the comment... there are \\\'\\\'palm trees\\\'\\\' prominently on display in the first movie. It\\\'s not Ohio, at least not at first. Crystal Lake also isn\\\'t in Ohio, as \\\"Jason Takes Manhattan\\\" would make no sense if it were (there\\\'s no ocean route that could take a boat from a lake in Ohio to Manhattan Island in a few days). Both movie franchises have been deliberately having fun with this trope over the years, so there\\\'s no need to defend them with fan guesswork.
And removing this one, tentatively...
* The \\\'\\\'HarryPotter\\\'\\\' series has a number of fictional locations whose whereabouts are never pinpointed, although:
** The first book explicitly places Little Whinging in Surrey.
*** The films agree; in the \\\'\\\'Order of the Phoenix\\\'\\\' movie, when the (presumably) local weather report shows the area. This is sort-of-confirmed by an early scene in the \\\'\\\'Half-Blood Prince\\\'\\\' movie, which takes place at Surbiton railway station, which is in south-west London near the Surrey border.
** Godric\\\'s Hollow is probably in the West Country.
** Hogwarts is obviously somewhere in the Highlands of Scotland.
** The Ministry of Magic is somewhere in central London, as is St. Mungo\\\'s; the latter is in one of London\\\'s major shopping streets, probably Oxford Street.
** Ottery St. Catchpole is implied to be in Devon or Exeter.
** Spinner\\\'s End is OopNorth in an old mill town with a river flowing through it.
** Little Hangleton is implied to be somewhere else OopNorth.
** Azkaban is somewhere in the North Sea.
The UK\\\'s not all that huge geographically, and most of these locations seem to have been narrowed down to specific counties. Like the DC example, I\\\'m not sure how much more specific Rowling could get.
And again...
* \\\'\\\'TheRockyHorrorPictureShow\\\'\\\'\\\'s Brad and Janet are from Denton, Ohio. This city doesn\\\'t exist, but writer Richard O\\\'Brien named the city Denton because there are many of them in the US. The sequel \\\'\\\'ShockTreatment\\\'\\\' explicitly takes place in \\\"Denton, USA!\\\"
If the state is named, then there\\\'s no mystery. I think there\\\'s some serious confusion going on with this trope, and people are just putting every fictional city here. It has to be deliberately vague, like Angel Grove having every climate imaginable as the plot demands, or Springfield and all its geographical anomalies. If it\\\'s actually set in a real-life state, that\\\'s about as specific as any story can get without giving local {{Shout Out}}s.
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*** Although it\'s never established, MartianManhunter\'s adopted home city where he kept his detective identity from his earliest appearances is Apex City, Florida in {{Fanon}} -- because it\'s a coastal city with a warm climate, their mascot is the Flamingo, and most of the businesses start with the name \
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*** Although it\\\'s never established, MartianManhunter\\\'s adopted home city where he kept his detective identity from his earliest appearances is Apex City, Florida in {{Fanon}} -- because it\\\'s a coastal city with a warm climate, their mascot is the Flamingo, and most of the businesses start with the name \\\"Apex\\\".
I really don\\\'t get the tendency to list fictional cities that are placed in a real-life state on this page. Short of giving latitude and longitude coordinates, or naming the exact interstate exit, how much more detailed can the setting get? This trope is about deliberately vague and contradictory locations, not just fictional cities.
* The Marvel universe avoids this for the most part by using only [[strike:[[BigApplesauce New York City]]]] real-world American cities.
** Except for Wakanda, Latveria, Atlantis, etc.
If we listed every story that uses real-life cities, there wouldn\\\'t be any room for the rest of the tropes. :)
Also, removing...
* The city in \\\'\\\'TheMatrix\\\'\\\' was never explicitly named, and it certainly wasn\\\'t New York. Street names are taken from the Wachowski brothers\\\' hometown of Chicago. [[spoiler:It was filmed in Sydney.]]
**[[spoiler: This may not be a good example, since there is only one city in the Matrix, and it takes up the majority of the acreage.]]
Since the city is its own self-contained universe.
Annnnd...
*** I\\\'m pretty sure that \\\'\\\'Jason Goes to Hell\\\'\\\' makes it more or less clear that Crystal Lake is also in Ohio, if memory serves, so naturally it would be within a couple of hours\\\' driving distance. And I\\\'m pretty *damn* sure that no one in the first \\\'\\\'Nightmare\\\'\\\' film says they\\\'re in L.A.
ThisTroper (grr), ThreadMode, and as for the substance of the comment... there are \\\'\\\'palm trees\\\'\\\' prominently on display in the first movie. It\\\'s not Ohio, at least not at first. Crystal Lake also isn\\\'t in Ohio, as \\\"Jason Takes Manhattan\\\" would make no sense if it were (there\\\'s no ocean route that could take a boat from a lake in Ohio to Manhattan Island in a few days). Both movie franchises have been deliberately having fun with this trope over the years, so there\\\'s no need to defend them with fan guesswork.
And removing this one, tentatively...
* The \\\'\\\'HarryPotter\\\'\\\' series has a number of fictional locations whose whereabouts are never pinpointed, although:
** The first book explicitly places Little Whinging in Surrey.
*** The films agree; in the \\\'\\\'Order of the Phoenix\\\'\\\' movie, when the (presumably) local weather report shows the area. This is sort-of-confirmed by an early scene in the \\\'\\\'Half-Blood Prince\\\'\\\' movie, which takes place at Surbiton railway station, which is in south-west London near the Surrey border.
** Godric\\\'s Hollow is probably in the West Country.
** Hogwarts is obviously somewhere in the Highlands of Scotland.
** The Ministry of Magic is somewhere in central London, as is St. Mungo\\\'s; the latter is in one of London\\\'s major shopping streets, probably Oxford Street.
** Ottery St. Catchpole is implied to be in Devon or Exeter.
** Spinner\\\'s End is OopNorth in an old mill town with a river flowing through it.
** Little Hangleton is implied to be somewhere else OopNorth.
** Azkaban is somewhere in the North Sea.
The UK\\\'s not all that huge geographically, and most of these locations seem to have been narrowed down to specific counties. Like the DC example, I\\\'m not sure how much more specific Rowling could get.
And again...
* \\\'\\\'TheRockyHorrorPictureShow\\\'\\\'\\\'s Brad and Janet are from Denton, Ohio. This city doesn\\\'t exist, but writer Richard O\\\'Brien named the city Denton because there are many of them in the US. The sequel \\\'\\\'ShockTreatment\\\'\\\' explicitly takes place in \\\"Denton, USA!\\\"
If the state is named, then there\\\'s no mystery. I think there\\\'s some serious confusion going on with this trope, and people are just putting every fictional city here. It has to be deliberately vague, like Angel Grove having every climate imaginable as the plot demands, or Springfield and all its geographical anomalies. If it\\\'s actually set in a specific state, that\\\'s about as specific as any story can get without giving local {{Shout Out}}s.
I really don\\\'t get the tendency to list fictional cities that are placed in a real-life state on this page. Short of giving latitude and longitude coordinates, or naming the exact interstate exit, how much more detailed can the setting get? This trope is about deliberately vague and contradictory locations, not just fictional cities.
* The Marvel universe avoids this for the most part by using only [[strike:[[BigApplesauce New York City]]]] real-world American cities.
** Except for Wakanda, Latveria, Atlantis, etc.
If we listed every story that uses real-life cities, there wouldn\\\'t be any room for the rest of the tropes. :)
Also, removing...
* The city in \\\'\\\'TheMatrix\\\'\\\' was never explicitly named, and it certainly wasn\\\'t New York. Street names are taken from the Wachowski brothers\\\' hometown of Chicago. [[spoiler:It was filmed in Sydney.]]
**[[spoiler: This may not be a good example, since there is only one city in the Matrix, and it takes up the majority of the acreage.]]
Since the city is its own self-contained universe.
Annnnd...
*** I\\\'m pretty sure that \\\'\\\'Jason Goes to Hell\\\'\\\' makes it more or less clear that Crystal Lake is also in Ohio, if memory serves, so naturally it would be within a couple of hours\\\' driving distance. And I\\\'m pretty *damn* sure that no one in the first \\\'\\\'Nightmare\\\'\\\' film says they\\\'re in L.A.
ThisTroper (grr), ThreadMode, and as for the substance of the comment... there are \\\'\\\'palm trees\\\'\\\' prominently on display in the first movie. It\\\'s not Ohio, at least not at first. Crystal Lake also isn\\\'t in Ohio, as \\\"Jason Takes Manhattan\\\" would make no sense if it were (there\\\'s no ocean route that could take a boat from a lake in Ohio to Manhattan Island in a few days). Both movie franchises have been deliberately having fun with this trope over the years, so there\\\'s no need to defend them with fan guesswork.
And removing this one, tentatively...
* The \\\'\\\'HarryPotter\\\'\\\' series has a number of fictional locations whose whereabouts are never pinpointed, although:
** The first book explicitly places Little Whinging in Surrey.
*** The films agree; in the \\\'\\\'Order of the Phoenix\\\'\\\' movie, when the (presumably) local weather report shows the area. This is sort-of-confirmed by an early scene in the \\\'\\\'Half-Blood Prince\\\'\\\' movie, which takes place at Surbiton railway station, which is in south-west London near the Surrey border.
** Godric\\\'s Hollow is probably in the West Country.
** Hogwarts is obviously somewhere in the Highlands of Scotland.
** The Ministry of Magic is somewhere in central London, as is St. Mungo\\\'s; the latter is in one of London\\\'s major shopping streets, probably Oxford Street.
** Ottery St. Catchpole is implied to be in Devon or Exeter.
** Spinner\\\'s End is OopNorth in an old mill town with a river flowing through it.
** Little Hangleton is implied to be somewhere else OopNorth.
** Azkaban is somewhere in the North Sea.
The UK\\\'s not all that huge geographically, and most of these locations seem to have been narrowed down to specific counties. Like the DC example, I\\\'m not sure how much more specific Rowling could get.
And again...
* \\\'\\\'TheRockyHorrorPictureShow\\\'\\\'\\\'s Brad and Janet are from Denton, Ohio. This city doesn\\\'t exist, but writer Richard O\\\'Brien named the city Denton because there are many of them in the US. The sequel \\\'\\\'ShockTreatment\\\'\\\' explicitly takes place in \\\"Denton, USA!\\\"
If the state is named, then there\\\'s no mystery. I think there\\\'s some serious confusion going on with this trope, and people are just putting every fictional city here. It has to be deliberately vague, like Angel Grove having every climate imaginable as the plot demands, or Springfield and all its geographical anomalies. If it\\\'s actually set in a specific state, that\\\'s about as specific as any story can get without giving local {{Shout Out}}s.
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*** Although it\'s never established, MartianManhunter\'s adopted home city where he kept his detective identity from his earliest appearances is Apex City, Florida in {{Fanon}} -- because it\'s a coastal city with a warm climate, their mascot is the Flamingo, and most of the businesses start with the name \
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*** Although it\\\'s never established, MartianManhunter\\\'s adopted home city where he kept his detective identity from his earliest appearances is Apex City, Florida in {{Fanon}} -- because it\\\'s a coastal city with a warm climate, their mascot is the Flamingo, and most of the businesses start with the name \\\"Apex\\\".
I really don\\\'t get the tendency to list fictional cities that are placed in a real-life state on this page. Short of giving latitude and longitude coordinates, or naming the exact interstate exit, how much more detailed can the setting get? This trope is about deliberately vague and contradictory locations, not just fictional cities.
* The Marvel universe avoids this for the most part by using only [[strike:[[BigApplesauce New York City]]]] real-world American cities.
** Except for Wakanda, Latveria, Atlantis, etc.
If we listed every story that uses real-life cities, there wouldn\\\'t be any room for the rest of the tropes. :)
Also, removing...
* The city in \\\'\\\'TheMatrix\\\'\\\' was never explicitly named, and it certainly wasn\\\'t New York. Street names are taken from the Wachowski brothers\\\' hometown of Chicago. [[spoiler:It was filmed in Sydney.]]
**[[spoiler: This may not be a good example, since there is only one city in the Matrix, and it takes up the majority of the acreage.]]
Since the city is its own self-contained universe.
Annnnd...
*** I\\\'m pretty sure that \\\'\\\'Jason Goes to Hell\\\'\\\' makes it more or less clear that Crystal Lake is also in Ohio, if memory serves, so naturally it would be within a couple of hours\\\' driving distance. And I\\\'m pretty *damn* sure that no one in the first \\\'\\\'Nightmare\\\'\\\' film says they\\\'re in L.A.
ThisTroper (grr), ThreadMode, and as for the substance of the comment... there are \\\'\\\'palm trees\\\'\\\' prominently on display in the first movie. It\\\'s not Ohio, at least not at first. Crystal Lake also isn\\\'t in Ohio, as \\\"Jason Takes Manhattan\\\" would make no sense if it were (there\\\'s no ocean route that could take a boat from a lake in Ohio to Manhattan Island in a few days). Both movie franchises have been deliberately having fun with this trope over the years, so there\\\'s no need to defend them with fan guesswork.
And removing this one, tentatively...
* The \\\'\\\'HarryPotter\\\'\\\' series has a number of fictional locations whose whereabouts are never pinpointed, although:
** The first book explicitly places Little Whinging in Surrey.
*** The films agree; in the \\\'\\\'Order of the Phoenix\\\'\\\' movie, when the (presumably) local weather report shows the area. This is sort-of-confirmed by an early scene in the \\\'\\\'Half-Blood Prince\\\'\\\' movie, which takes place at Surbiton railway station, which is in south-west London near the Surrey border.
** Godric\\\'s Hollow is probably in the West Country.
** Hogwarts is obviously somewhere in the Highlands of Scotland.
** The Ministry of Magic is somewhere in central London, as is St. Mungo\\\'s; the latter is in one of London\\\'s major shopping streets, probably Oxford Street.
** Ottery St. Catchpole is implied to be in Devon or Exeter.
** Spinner\\\'s End is OopNorth in an old mill town with a river flowing through it.
** Little Hangleton is implied to be somewhere else OopNorth.
** Azkaban is somewhere in the North Sea.
The UK\\\'s not all that huge geographically, and most of these locations seem to have been narrowed down to specific counties. Like the DC example, I\\\'m not sure how much more specific Rowling could get.
I really don\\\'t get the tendency to list fictional cities that are placed in a real-life state on this page. Short of giving latitude and longitude coordinates, or naming the exact interstate exit, how much more detailed can the setting get? This trope is about deliberately vague and contradictory locations, not just fictional cities.
* The Marvel universe avoids this for the most part by using only [[strike:[[BigApplesauce New York City]]]] real-world American cities.
** Except for Wakanda, Latveria, Atlantis, etc.
If we listed every story that uses real-life cities, there wouldn\\\'t be any room for the rest of the tropes. :)
Also, removing...
* The city in \\\'\\\'TheMatrix\\\'\\\' was never explicitly named, and it certainly wasn\\\'t New York. Street names are taken from the Wachowski brothers\\\' hometown of Chicago. [[spoiler:It was filmed in Sydney.]]
**[[spoiler: This may not be a good example, since there is only one city in the Matrix, and it takes up the majority of the acreage.]]
Since the city is its own self-contained universe.
Annnnd...
*** I\\\'m pretty sure that \\\'\\\'Jason Goes to Hell\\\'\\\' makes it more or less clear that Crystal Lake is also in Ohio, if memory serves, so naturally it would be within a couple of hours\\\' driving distance. And I\\\'m pretty *damn* sure that no one in the first \\\'\\\'Nightmare\\\'\\\' film says they\\\'re in L.A.
ThisTroper (grr), ThreadMode, and as for the substance of the comment... there are \\\'\\\'palm trees\\\'\\\' prominently on display in the first movie. It\\\'s not Ohio, at least not at first. Crystal Lake also isn\\\'t in Ohio, as \\\"Jason Takes Manhattan\\\" would make no sense if it were (there\\\'s no ocean route that could take a boat from a lake in Ohio to Manhattan Island in a few days). Both movie franchises have been deliberately having fun with this trope over the years, so there\\\'s no need to defend them with fan guesswork.
And removing this one, tentatively...
* The \\\'\\\'HarryPotter\\\'\\\' series has a number of fictional locations whose whereabouts are never pinpointed, although:
** The first book explicitly places Little Whinging in Surrey.
*** The films agree; in the \\\'\\\'Order of the Phoenix\\\'\\\' movie, when the (presumably) local weather report shows the area. This is sort-of-confirmed by an early scene in the \\\'\\\'Half-Blood Prince\\\'\\\' movie, which takes place at Surbiton railway station, which is in south-west London near the Surrey border.
** Godric\\\'s Hollow is probably in the West Country.
** Hogwarts is obviously somewhere in the Highlands of Scotland.
** The Ministry of Magic is somewhere in central London, as is St. Mungo\\\'s; the latter is in one of London\\\'s major shopping streets, probably Oxford Street.
** Ottery St. Catchpole is implied to be in Devon or Exeter.
** Spinner\\\'s End is OopNorth in an old mill town with a river flowing through it.
** Little Hangleton is implied to be somewhere else OopNorth.
** Azkaban is somewhere in the North Sea.
The UK\\\'s not all that huge geographically, and most of these locations seem to have been narrowed down to specific counties. Like the DC example, I\\\'m not sure how much more specific Rowling could get.
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*** Although it\'s never established, MartianManhunter\'s adopted home city where he kept his detective identity from his earliest appearances is Apex City, Florida in {{Fanon}} -- because it\'s a coastal city with a warm climate, their mascot is the Flamingo, and most of the businesses start with the name \
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*** Although it\\\'s never established, MartianManhunter\\\'s adopted home city where he kept his detective identity from his earliest appearances is Apex City, Florida in {{Fanon}} -- because it\\\'s a coastal city with a warm climate, their mascot is the Flamingo, and most of the businesses start with the name \\\"Apex\\\".
I really don\\\'t get the tendency to list fictional cities that are placed in a real-life state on this page. Short of giving latitude and longitude coordinates, or naming the exact interstate exit, how much more detailed can the setting get? This trope is about deliberately vague and contradictory locations, not just fictional cities.
* The Marvel universe avoids this for the most part by using only [[strike:[[BigApplesauce New York City]]]] real-world American cities.
** Except for Wakanda, Latveria, Atlantis, etc.
If we listed every story that uses real-life cities, there wouldn\\\'t be any room for the rest of the tropes. :)
Also, removing...
* The city in \\\'\\\'TheMatrix\\\'\\\' was never explicitly named, and it certainly wasn\\\'t New York. Street names are taken from the Wachowski brothers\\\' hometown of Chicago. [[spoiler:It was filmed in Sydney.]]
**[[spoiler: This may not be a good example, since there is only one city in the Matrix, and it takes up the majority of the acreage.]]
Since the city is its own self-contained universe.
Annnnd...
*** I\\\'m pretty sure that \\\'\\\'Jason Goes to Hell\\\'\\\' makes it more or less clear that Crystal Lake is also in Ohio, if memory serves, so naturally it would be within a couple of hours\\\' driving distance. And I\\\'m pretty *damn* sure that no one in the first \\\'\\\'Nightmare\\\'\\\' film says they\\\'re in L.A.
ThisTroper (grr), ThreadMode, and as for the substance of the comment... there are \\\'\\\'palm trees\\\'\\\' prominently on display in the first movie. It\\\'s not Ohio, at least not at first. Crystal Lake also isn\\\'t in Ohio, as \\\"Jason Takes Manhattan\\\" would make no sense if it were (there\\\'s no ocean route that could take a boat from a lake in Ohio to Manhattan Island in a few days). Repeat after me, TropesAreNotBad. Both movie franchises have been having fun with this one over the years, so there\\\'s no need to defend them with fan guesswork.
I really don\\\'t get the tendency to list fictional cities that are placed in a real-life state on this page. Short of giving latitude and longitude coordinates, or naming the exact interstate exit, how much more detailed can the setting get? This trope is about deliberately vague and contradictory locations, not just fictional cities.
* The Marvel universe avoids this for the most part by using only [[strike:[[BigApplesauce New York City]]]] real-world American cities.
** Except for Wakanda, Latveria, Atlantis, etc.
If we listed every story that uses real-life cities, there wouldn\\\'t be any room for the rest of the tropes. :)
Also, removing...
* The city in \\\'\\\'TheMatrix\\\'\\\' was never explicitly named, and it certainly wasn\\\'t New York. Street names are taken from the Wachowski brothers\\\' hometown of Chicago. [[spoiler:It was filmed in Sydney.]]
**[[spoiler: This may not be a good example, since there is only one city in the Matrix, and it takes up the majority of the acreage.]]
Since the city is its own self-contained universe.
Annnnd...
*** I\\\'m pretty sure that \\\'\\\'Jason Goes to Hell\\\'\\\' makes it more or less clear that Crystal Lake is also in Ohio, if memory serves, so naturally it would be within a couple of hours\\\' driving distance. And I\\\'m pretty *damn* sure that no one in the first \\\'\\\'Nightmare\\\'\\\' film says they\\\'re in L.A.
ThisTroper (grr), ThreadMode, and as for the substance of the comment... there are \\\'\\\'palm trees\\\'\\\' prominently on display in the first movie. It\\\'s not Ohio, at least not at first. Crystal Lake also isn\\\'t in Ohio, as \\\"Jason Takes Manhattan\\\" would make no sense if it were (there\\\'s no ocean route that could take a boat from a lake in Ohio to Manhattan Island in a few days). Repeat after me, TropesAreNotBad. Both movie franchises have been having fun with this one over the years, so there\\\'s no need to defend them with fan guesswork.
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*** Although it\'s never established, MartianManhunter\'s adopted home city where he kept his detective identity from his earliest appearances is Apex City, Florida in {{Fanon}} -- because it\'s a coastal city with a warm climate, their mascot is the Flamingo, and most of the businesses start with the name \
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*** Although it\\\'s never established, MartianManhunter\\\'s adopted home city where he kept his detective identity from his earliest appearances is Apex City, Florida in {{Fanon}} -- because it\\\'s a coastal city with a warm climate, their mascot is the Flamingo, and most of the businesses start with the name \\\"Apex\\\".
I really don\\\'t get the tendency to list fictional cities that are placed in a real-life state on this page. Short of giving latitude and longitude coordinates, or naming the exact interstate exit, how much more detailed can the setting get? This trope is about deliberately vague and contradictory locations, not just fictional cities.
* The Marvel universe avoids this for the most part by using only [[strike:[[BigApplesauce New York City]]]] real-world American cities.
** Except for Wakanda, Latveria, Atlantis, etc.
If we listed every story that uses real-life cities, there wouldn\\\'t be any room for the rest of the tropes. :)
Also, removing...
* The city in \\\'\\\'TheMatrix\\\'\\\' was never explicitly named, and it certainly wasn\\\'t New York. Street names are taken from the Wachowski brothers\\\' hometown of Chicago. [[spoiler:It was filmed in Sydney.]]
**[[spoiler: This may not be a good example, since there is only one city in the Matrix, and it takes up the majority of the acreage.]]
Since the city is its own self-contained universe.
Annnnd...
*** I\\\'m pretty sure that \\\'\\\'Jason Goes to Hell\\\'\\\' makes it more or less clear that Crystal Lake is also in Ohio, if memory serves, so naturally it would be within a couple of hours\\\' driving distance. And I\\\'m pretty *damn* sure that no one in the first \\\'\\\'Nightmare\\\'\\\' film says they\\\'re in L.A.
ThisTroper (grr), ThreadMode, and as for the substance of the comment... there are \\\'\\\'palm trees\\\'\\\' prominently on display in the first movie. It\\\'s not Ohio, at least not at first. Crystal Lake also isn\\\'t in Ohio, as \\\"Jason Takes Manhattan\\\" would make no sense if it were (there\\\'s no route that could take a boat from a lake in Ohio to Manhattan Island in a few days). Repeat after me, TropesAreNotBad. Both movie franchises have been having fun with this one over the years, so there\\\'s no need to defend them with fan guesswork.
I really don\\\'t get the tendency to list fictional cities that are placed in a real-life state on this page. Short of giving latitude and longitude coordinates, or naming the exact interstate exit, how much more detailed can the setting get? This trope is about deliberately vague and contradictory locations, not just fictional cities.
* The Marvel universe avoids this for the most part by using only [[strike:[[BigApplesauce New York City]]]] real-world American cities.
** Except for Wakanda, Latveria, Atlantis, etc.
If we listed every story that uses real-life cities, there wouldn\\\'t be any room for the rest of the tropes. :)
Also, removing...
* The city in \\\'\\\'TheMatrix\\\'\\\' was never explicitly named, and it certainly wasn\\\'t New York. Street names are taken from the Wachowski brothers\\\' hometown of Chicago. [[spoiler:It was filmed in Sydney.]]
**[[spoiler: This may not be a good example, since there is only one city in the Matrix, and it takes up the majority of the acreage.]]
Since the city is its own self-contained universe.
Annnnd...
*** I\\\'m pretty sure that \\\'\\\'Jason Goes to Hell\\\'\\\' makes it more or less clear that Crystal Lake is also in Ohio, if memory serves, so naturally it would be within a couple of hours\\\' driving distance. And I\\\'m pretty *damn* sure that no one in the first \\\'\\\'Nightmare\\\'\\\' film says they\\\'re in L.A.
ThisTroper (grr), ThreadMode, and as for the substance of the comment... there are \\\'\\\'palm trees\\\'\\\' prominently on display in the first movie. It\\\'s not Ohio, at least not at first. Crystal Lake also isn\\\'t in Ohio, as \\\"Jason Takes Manhattan\\\" would make no sense if it were (there\\\'s no route that could take a boat from a lake in Ohio to Manhattan Island in a few days). Repeat after me, TropesAreNotBad. Both movie franchises have been having fun with this one over the years, so there\\\'s no need to defend them with fan guesswork.
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*** Although it\'s never established, MartianManhunter\'s adopted home city where he kept his detective identity from his earliest appearances is Apex City, Florida in {{Fanon}} -- because it\'s a coastal city with a warm climate, their mascot is the Flamingo, and most of the businesses start with the name \
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*** Although it\\\'s never established, MartianManhunter\\\'s adopted home city where he kept his detective identity from his earliest appearances is Apex City, Florida in {{Fanon}} -- because it\\\'s a coastal city with a warm climate, their mascot is the Flamingo, and most of the businesses start with the name \\\"Apex\\\".
I really don\\\'t get the tendency to list fictional cities that are placed in a real-life state on this page. Short of giving latitude and longitude coordinates, or naming the exact interstate exit, how much more detailed can the setting get? This trope is about deliberately vague and contradictory locations, not just fictional cities.
* The Marvel universe avoids this for the most part by using only [[strike:[[BigApplesauce New York City]]]] real-world American cities.
** Except for Wakanda, Latveria, Atlantis, etc.
If we listed every story that uses real-life cities, there wouldn\\\'t be any room for the rest of the tropes. :)
Also, removing...
* The city in \\\'\\\'TheMatrix\\\'\\\' was never explicitly named, and it certainly wasn\\\'t New York. Street names are taken from the Wachowski brothers\\\' hometown of Chicago. [[spoiler:It was filmed in Sydney.]]
**[[spoiler: This may not be a good example, since there is only one city in the Matrix, and it takes up the majority of the acreage.]]
Since the city is its own self-contained universe.
Annnnd...
*** I\\\'m pretty sure that \\\'\\\'Jason Goes to Hell\\\'\\\' makes it more or less clear that Crystal Lake is also in Ohio, if memory serves, so naturally it would be within a couple of hours\\\' driving distance. And I\\\'m pretty *damn* sure that no one in the first \\\'\\\'Nightmare\\\'\\\' film says they\\\'re in L.A.
ThisTroper (grr), ThreadMode, and as for the substance of the comment... there are \\\'\\\'palm trees\\\'\\\' prominently on display in the first movie. It\\\'s not Ohio, at least not at first. Crystal Lake also isn\\\'t in Ohio, as \\\"Jason Takes Manhattan\\\" would make no sense if it were (there\\\'s no route that could take a boat from a lake in Ohio to Manhattan Island in a few days). Repeat after me, TropesAreNotBad. Both movie franchises have been having fun with this trope over the years, so there\\\'s no need to defend them with fan guesswork.
I really don\\\'t get the tendency to list fictional cities that are placed in a real-life state on this page. Short of giving latitude and longitude coordinates, or naming the exact interstate exit, how much more detailed can the setting get? This trope is about deliberately vague and contradictory locations, not just fictional cities.
* The Marvel universe avoids this for the most part by using only [[strike:[[BigApplesauce New York City]]]] real-world American cities.
** Except for Wakanda, Latveria, Atlantis, etc.
If we listed every story that uses real-life cities, there wouldn\\\'t be any room for the rest of the tropes. :)
Also, removing...
* The city in \\\'\\\'TheMatrix\\\'\\\' was never explicitly named, and it certainly wasn\\\'t New York. Street names are taken from the Wachowski brothers\\\' hometown of Chicago. [[spoiler:It was filmed in Sydney.]]
**[[spoiler: This may not be a good example, since there is only one city in the Matrix, and it takes up the majority of the acreage.]]
Since the city is its own self-contained universe.
Annnnd...
*** I\\\'m pretty sure that \\\'\\\'Jason Goes to Hell\\\'\\\' makes it more or less clear that Crystal Lake is also in Ohio, if memory serves, so naturally it would be within a couple of hours\\\' driving distance. And I\\\'m pretty *damn* sure that no one in the first \\\'\\\'Nightmare\\\'\\\' film says they\\\'re in L.A.
ThisTroper (grr), ThreadMode, and as for the substance of the comment... there are \\\'\\\'palm trees\\\'\\\' prominently on display in the first movie. It\\\'s not Ohio, at least not at first. Crystal Lake also isn\\\'t in Ohio, as \\\"Jason Takes Manhattan\\\" would make no sense if it were (there\\\'s no route that could take a boat from a lake in Ohio to Manhattan Island in a few days). Repeat after me, TropesAreNotBad. Both movie franchises have been having fun with this trope over the years, so there\\\'s no need to defend them with fan guesswork.
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*** Although it\'s never established, MartianManhunter\'s adopted home city where he kept his detective identity from his earliest appearances is Apex City, Florida in {{Fanon}} -- because it\'s a coastal city with a warm climate, their mascot is the Flamingo, and most of the businesses start with the name \
to:
*** Although it\\\'s never established, MartianManhunter\\\'s adopted home city where he kept his detective identity from his earliest appearances is Apex City, Florida in {{Fanon}} -- because it\\\'s a coastal city with a warm climate, their mascot is the Flamingo, and most of the businesses start with the name \\\"Apex\\\".
I really don\\\'t get the tendency to list fictional cities that are placed in a real-life state on this page. Short of giving latitude and longitude coordinates, or naming the exact interstate exit, how much more detailed can the setting get? This trope is about deliberately vague and contradictory locations, not just fictional cities.
* The Marvel universe avoids this for the most part by using only [[strike:[[BigApplesauce New York City]]]] real-world American cities.
** Except for Wakanda, Latveria, Atlantis, etc.
If we listed every story that uses real-life cities, there wouldn\\\'t be any room for the rest of the tropes. :)
Also, removing...
* The city in \\\'\\\'TheMatrix\\\'\\\' was never explicitly named, and it certainly wasn\\\'t New York. Street names are taken from the Wachowski brothers\\\' hometown of Chicago. [[spoiler:It was filmed in Sydney.]]
**[[spoiler: This may not be a good example, since there is only one city in the Matrix, and it takes up the majority of the acreage.]]
Since the city is its own self-contained universe.
Annnnd...
*** I\\\'m pretty sure that \\\'\\\'Jason Goes to Hell\\\'\\\' makes it more or less clear that Crystal Lake is also in Ohio, if memory serves, so naturally it would be within a couple of hours\\\' driving distance. And I\\\'m pretty *damn* sure that no one in the first \\\'\\\'Nightmare\\\'\\\' film says they\\\'re in L.A.
ThisTroper (grr), ThreadMode, and as for the substance of the comment... there are \\\'\\\'palm trees\\\'\\\' prominently on display in the first movie. It\\\'s not Ohio, at least not at first. Crystal Lake also isn\\\'t in Ohio, as \\\"Jason Goes to Manhatten\\\" would make no sense if it were (there\\\'s no route that could take a boat from a lake in Ohio to Manhattan Island in a few days). Repeat after me, TropesAreNotBad. Both movie franchises have been having fun with this trope over the years, so there\\\'s no need to defend them with fan guesswork.
I really don\\\'t get the tendency to list fictional cities that are placed in a real-life state on this page. Short of giving latitude and longitude coordinates, or naming the exact interstate exit, how much more detailed can the setting get? This trope is about deliberately vague and contradictory locations, not just fictional cities.
* The Marvel universe avoids this for the most part by using only [[strike:[[BigApplesauce New York City]]]] real-world American cities.
** Except for Wakanda, Latveria, Atlantis, etc.
If we listed every story that uses real-life cities, there wouldn\\\'t be any room for the rest of the tropes. :)
Also, removing...
* The city in \\\'\\\'TheMatrix\\\'\\\' was never explicitly named, and it certainly wasn\\\'t New York. Street names are taken from the Wachowski brothers\\\' hometown of Chicago. [[spoiler:It was filmed in Sydney.]]
**[[spoiler: This may not be a good example, since there is only one city in the Matrix, and it takes up the majority of the acreage.]]
Since the city is its own self-contained universe.
Annnnd...
*** I\\\'m pretty sure that \\\'\\\'Jason Goes to Hell\\\'\\\' makes it more or less clear that Crystal Lake is also in Ohio, if memory serves, so naturally it would be within a couple of hours\\\' driving distance. And I\\\'m pretty *damn* sure that no one in the first \\\'\\\'Nightmare\\\'\\\' film says they\\\'re in L.A.
ThisTroper (grr), ThreadMode, and as for the substance of the comment... there are \\\'\\\'palm trees\\\'\\\' prominently on display in the first movie. It\\\'s not Ohio, at least not at first. Crystal Lake also isn\\\'t in Ohio, as \\\"Jason Goes to Manhatten\\\" would make no sense if it were (there\\\'s no route that could take a boat from a lake in Ohio to Manhattan Island in a few days). Repeat after me, TropesAreNotBad. Both movie franchises have been having fun with this trope over the years, so there\\\'s no need to defend them with fan guesswork.
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*** Although it\'s never established, MartianManhunter\'s adopted home city where he kept his detective identity from his earliest appearances is Apex City, Florida in {{Fanon}} -- because it\'s a coastal city with a warm climate, their mascot is the Flamingo, and most of the businesses start with the name \
to:
*** Although it\\\'s never established, MartianManhunter\\\'s adopted home city where he kept his detective identity from his earliest appearances is Apex City, Florida in {{Fanon}} -- because it\\\'s a coastal city with a warm climate, their mascot is the Flamingo, and most of the businesses start with the name \\\"Apex\\\".
I really don\\\'t get the tendency to list fictional cities that are placed in a real-life state on this page. Short of giving latitude and longitude coordinates, or naming the exact interstate exit, how much more detailed can the setting get? This trope is about deliberately vague and contradictory locations, not just fictional cities.
* The Marvel universe avoids this for the most part by using only [[strike:[[BigApplesauce New York City]]]] real-world American cities.
** Except for Wakanda, Latveria, Atlantis, etc.
If we listed every story that uses real-life cities, there wouldn\\\'t be any room for the rest of the tropes. :)
Also, removing...
* The city in \\\'\\\'TheMatrix\\\'\\\' was never explicitly named, and it certainly wasn\\\'t New York. Street names are taken from the Wachowski brothers\\\' hometown of Chicago. [[spoiler:It was filmed in Sydney.]]
**[[spoiler: This may not be a good example, since there is only one city in the Matrix, and it takes up the majority of the acreage.]]
Since the city is its own self-contained universe.
Annnnd...
*** I\\\'m pretty sure that \\\'\\\'Jason Goes to Hell\\\'\\\' makes it more or less clear that Crystal Lake is also in Ohio, if memory serves, so naturally it would be within a couple of hours\\\' driving distance. And I\\\'m pretty *damn* sure that no one in the first \\\'\\\'Nightmare\\\'\\\' film says they\\\'re in L.A.
ThisTroper (grr), ThreadMode, and as for the substance of the comment... there are \\\'\\\'palm trees\\\'\\\' prominently on display in the first movie. It\\\'s not Ohio, at least not at first. Crystal Lake also isn\\\'t in Ohio, as \\\"Jason Goes to Manhatten\\\" would make no sense if it were (there\\\'s no route that could take a boat from a lake in Ohio to Manhattan Island in a few days). Repeat after me, TropesAreNotBad ...both movie franchises have clearly been having fun with this trope over the years.
I really don\\\'t get the tendency to list fictional cities that are placed in a real-life state on this page. Short of giving latitude and longitude coordinates, or naming the exact interstate exit, how much more detailed can the setting get? This trope is about deliberately vague and contradictory locations, not just fictional cities.
* The Marvel universe avoids this for the most part by using only [[strike:[[BigApplesauce New York City]]]] real-world American cities.
** Except for Wakanda, Latveria, Atlantis, etc.
If we listed every story that uses real-life cities, there wouldn\\\'t be any room for the rest of the tropes. :)
Also, removing...
* The city in \\\'\\\'TheMatrix\\\'\\\' was never explicitly named, and it certainly wasn\\\'t New York. Street names are taken from the Wachowski brothers\\\' hometown of Chicago. [[spoiler:It was filmed in Sydney.]]
**[[spoiler: This may not be a good example, since there is only one city in the Matrix, and it takes up the majority of the acreage.]]
Since the city is its own self-contained universe.
Annnnd...
*** I\\\'m pretty sure that \\\'\\\'Jason Goes to Hell\\\'\\\' makes it more or less clear that Crystal Lake is also in Ohio, if memory serves, so naturally it would be within a couple of hours\\\' driving distance. And I\\\'m pretty *damn* sure that no one in the first \\\'\\\'Nightmare\\\'\\\' film says they\\\'re in L.A.
ThisTroper (grr), ThreadMode, and as for the substance of the comment... there are \\\'\\\'palm trees\\\'\\\' prominently on display in the first movie. It\\\'s not Ohio, at least not at first. Crystal Lake also isn\\\'t in Ohio, as \\\"Jason Goes to Manhatten\\\" would make no sense if it were (there\\\'s no route that could take a boat from a lake in Ohio to Manhattan Island in a few days). Repeat after me, TropesAreNotBad ...both movie franchises have clearly been having fun with this trope over the years.
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*** Although it\'s never established, MartianManhunter\'s adopted home city where he kept his detective identity from his earliest appearances is Apex City, Florida in {{Fanon}} -- because it\'s a coastal city with a warm climate, their mascot is the Flamingo, and most of the businesses start with the name \
to:
*** Although it\\\'s never established, MartianManhunter\\\'s adopted home city where he kept his detective identity from his earliest appearances is Apex City, Florida in {{Fanon}} -- because it\\\'s a coastal city with a warm climate, their mascot is the Flamingo, and most of the businesses start with the name \\\"Apex\\\".
I really don\\\'t get the tendency to list fictional cities that are placed in a real-life state on this page. Short of giving latitude and longitude coordinates, or naming the exact interstate exit, how much more detailed can the setting get? This trope is about deliberately vague and contradictory locations, not just fictional cities.
* The Marvel universe avoids this for the most part by using only [[strike:[[BigApplesauce New York City]]]] real-world American cities.
** Except for Wakanda, Latveria, Atlantis, etc.
If we listed every story that uses real-life cities, there wouldn\\\'t be any room for the rest of the tropes. :)
I really don\\\'t get the tendency to list fictional cities that are placed in a real-life state on this page. Short of giving latitude and longitude coordinates, or naming the exact interstate exit, how much more detailed can the setting get? This trope is about deliberately vague and contradictory locations, not just fictional cities.
* The Marvel universe avoids this for the most part by using only [[strike:[[BigApplesauce New York City]]]] real-world American cities.
** Except for Wakanda, Latveria, Atlantis, etc.
If we listed every story that uses real-life cities, there wouldn\\\'t be any room for the rest of the tropes. :)
