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Well, while it\'s true I love Final Fantasy XIV to bits, I\'ve done my level best to be fair here - for instance, annotating or explaining my edits, mentioning the \'MMO in the main series\' argument, and asking AyaReiko for references to controversial entries rather than just deleting then - which she was good enough to provide. And this time.. I\'m sorry but I\'m leaving that entry (which I didn\'t write, I\'ll note) well enough alone, and I apologise to DonZabu for any possible offence, but the simple phrase \'This page seems to like the game way more than the game deserves to be liked\' already makes it pretty clear that they also have an opinion they\'d rather be the dominant one here. And being as it seems to be a negative one, I\'ll bet they haven\'t much inclination to be involved in the mass of improvements and changes presently going on under the new team leads, either. Besides, to be perfectly frank, while I\'m sure it does read like someone who enjoyed the game wrote it, it\'s still pretty fair in general, given it uses terms like \'faint promise\' when talking about optimists, points out the issues with claiming the game is in an ideal state, and cites the concerns around continued repair. To reference OJ, too, at least the negative response is actually cited, and repeatedly at that; everyone here has been very careful to make sure nobody feels that\'s being censored out. Hell, it even makes brief reference to the issues in the page description, which I\'m pretty sure is actually bad form.
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Well, while it\\\'s true I love Final Fantasy XIV to bits, I\\\'ve done my level best to be fair here - for instance, annotating or explaining my edits, mentioning the \\\'MMO in the main series\\\' argument, and asking AyaReiko for references to controversial entries rather than just deleting them - which she was good enough to provide. And this time.. I\\\'m sorry but I\\\'m leaving that entry (which I didn\\\'t write, I\\\'ll note) well enough alone, and I apologise to DonZabu for any possible offence, but the simple phrase \\\'This page seems to like the game way more than the game deserves to be liked\\\' already makes it pretty clear that they also have an opinion they\\\'d rather be the dominant one here. And being as it seems to be a negative one, I\\\'ll bet they haven\\\'t much inclination to be involved in the mass of improvements and changes presently going on under the new team leads, either. Besides, to be perfectly frank, while I\\\'m sure it does read like someone who enjoyed the game wrote it, it\\\'s still pretty fair in general, given it uses terms like \\\'faint promise\\\' when talking about optimists, points out the issues with claiming the game is in an ideal state, and cites the concerns around continued repair. To reference OJ, too, at least the negative response is actually cited, and repeatedly at that; everyone here has been very careful to make sure nobody feels that\\\'s being censored out. Hell, it even makes brief reference to the issues in the page description, which I\\\'m pretty sure is actually bad form.
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However, right now I recommend doing nothing that doesn\'t involve simply noting tropes contained in the work itself. Final Fantasy XIV\'s in the midst of a massive redevelopment, and setting aside the fact that content is already being changed and problems solved, it\'s still unclear the direction it\'s going to go \'\'and\'\' the game is subscription-free until the issues are resolved. As such, and given we\'ve already thrashed out the \'released to early\' argument, I\'d say it should be regarded as being back in beta again and treated with all reservation of judgment the in-development beta-phase warrants. The page will likely be in need of a huge rework, too, once the approved/fixed/confirmed version for the PS3 is released.
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However, right now I recommend doing nothing that doesn\\\'t involve simply noting tropes contained in the work itself. Final Fantasy XIV\\\'s in the midst of a massive redevelopment, and setting aside the fact that content is already being changed and problems solved, it\\\'s still unclear the direction it\\\'s going to go \\\'\\\'and\\\'\\\' the game is subscription-free until the issues are resolved. As such, and given we\\\'ve already thrashed out the \\\'released too early\\\' argument, I\\\'d say it should be regarded as being back in beta again and treated with all reservation of judgment the in-development beta-phase warrants. The page will likely be in need of a huge rework, too, once the approved/fixed/confirmed version for the PS3 is released.
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Well, while it\'s true I love Final Fantasy XIV to bits, I\'ve done my level best to be fair here - for instance, annotating or explaining my edits, mentioning the \'MMO in the main series\' argument, and asking AyaReiko for references to controversial entries rather than just deleting then - which she was good enough to provide. And this time.. I\'m sorry but I\'m leaving that entry (which I didn\'t write, I\'ll note) well enough alone, and I apologise to DonZabu for any possible offence, but the simple phrase \'This page seems to like the game way more than the game deserves to be liked\' already makes it pretty clear that they also have an opinion they\'d rather be the dominant one here. And being as it seems to be a negative one, I\'ll bet they haven\'t much inclination to be involved in the mass of improvements and changes presently going on under the new team leads, either. Besides, to be perfectly frank, while I\'m sure it does read like someone who enjoyed the game wrote it, it\'s still pretty fair in general, given it uses terms like \'faint promise\' when talking about optimists, points out the issues with claiming the game is in an ideal state, and cites the concerns around continued repair. To reference OJ, too, at least the negative response is actually cited, and repeatedly at that; everyone here has been very careful to make sure nobody feels that\'s being censored out. Hell, it even makes reference to the issues in the page description, which I\'m pretty sure is actually bad form.
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Well, while it\\\'s true I love Final Fantasy XIV to bits, I\\\'ve done my level best to be fair here - for instance, annotating or explaining my edits, mentioning the \\\'MMO in the main series\\\' argument, and asking AyaReiko for references to controversial entries rather than just deleting then - which she was good enough to provide. And this time.. I\\\'m sorry but I\\\'m leaving that entry (which I didn\\\'t write, I\\\'ll note) well enough alone, and I apologise to DonZabu for any possible offence, but the simple phrase \\\'This page seems to like the game way more than the game deserves to be liked\\\' already makes it pretty clear that they also have an opinion they\\\'d rather be the dominant one here. And being as it seems to be a negative one, I\\\'ll bet they haven\\\'t much inclination to be involved in the mass of improvements and changes presently going on under the new team leads, either. Besides, to be perfectly frank, while I\\\'m sure it does read like someone who enjoyed the game wrote it, it\\\'s still pretty fair in general, given it uses terms like \\\'faint promise\\\' when talking about optimists, points out the issues with claiming the game is in an ideal state, and cites the concerns around continued repair. To reference OJ, too, at least the negative response is actually cited, and repeatedly at that; everyone here has been very careful to make sure nobody feels that\\\'s being censored out. Hell, it even makes brief reference to the issues in the page description, which I\\\'m pretty sure is actually bad form.
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Well, while it\'s true I love Final Fantasy XIV to bits, I\'ve done my level best to be fair here - for instance, annotating or explaining my edits, mentioning the \'MMO in the main series\' argument, and asking AyaReiko for references to controversial entries rather than just deleting then - which she was good enough to provide. And this time.. I\'m sorry but I\'m leaving that entry (which I didn\'t write, I\'ll note) well enough alone, and I apologise to DonZabu for any possible offence, but the simple phrase \'This page seems to like the game way more than the game deserves to be liked\' already makes it pretty clear that they also have an opinion they\'d rather be the dominant one here. And being as it seems to be a negative one, I\'ll bet they haven\'t much inclination to be involved in the mass of improvements and changes presently going on under the new team leads, either. Besides, to be perfectly frank, while I\'m sure it does read like someone who enjoyed the game wrote it, it\'s still pretty fair in general, given it uses terms like \'faint promise\' when talking about optimists, points out the issues with claiming the game is in an ideal state, and cites the concerns around continued repair. To reference OJ, too, at least the negative response is actually cited, and repeatedly at that; everyone here has been very careful to make sure nobody feels that\'s being censored out.
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Well, while it\\\'s true I love Final Fantasy XIV to bits, I\\\'ve done my level best to be fair here - for instance, annotating or explaining my edits, mentioning the \\\'MMO in the main series\\\' argument, and asking AyaReiko for references to controversial entries rather than just deleting then - which she was good enough to provide. And this time.. I\\\'m sorry but I\\\'m leaving that entry (which I didn\\\'t write, I\\\'ll note) well enough alone, and I apologise to DonZabu for any possible offence, but the simple phrase \\\'This page seems to like the game way more than the game deserves to be liked\\\' already makes it pretty clear that they also have an opinion they\\\'d rather be the dominant one here. And being as it seems to be a negative one, I\\\'ll bet they haven\\\'t much inclination to be involved in the mass of improvements and changes presently going on under the new team leads, either. Besides, to be perfectly frank, while I\\\'m sure it does read like someone who enjoyed the game wrote it, it\\\'s still pretty fair in general, given it uses terms like \\\'faint promise\\\' when talking about optimists, points out the issues with claiming the game is in an ideal state, and cites the concerns around continued repair. To reference OJ, too, at least the negative response is actually cited, and repeatedly at that; everyone here has been very careful to make sure nobody feels that\\\'s being censored out. Hell, it even makes reference to the issues in the page description, which I\\\'m pretty sure is actually bad form.
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Well, while it\'s true I love Final Fantasy XIV to bits, I\'ve done my level best to be fair here - for instance, annotating or explaining my edits, mentioning the \'MMO in the main series\' argument, and asking AyaReiko for references to controversial entries rather than just deleting then - which she was good enough to provide. And this time.. I\'m sorry but I\'m leaving that entry well enough alone, and I apologise to DonZabu for any possible offence, but the simple phrase \'This page seems to like the game way more than the game deserves to be liked\' already makes it pretty clear that they also have an opinion they\'d rather be the dominant one here. And being as it seems to be a negative one, I\'ll bet they haven\'t much inclination to be involved in the mass of improvements and changes presently going on under the new team leads, either. Besides, to be perfectly frank, while I\'m sure it does read like someone who enjoyed the game wrote it, it\'s still pretty fair in general, given it uses terms like \'faint promise\' when talking about optimists, points out the issues with claiming the game is in an ideal state, and cites the concerns around continued repair. To reference OJ, too, at least the negative response is actually cited, and repeatedly at that; everyone here has been very careful to make sure nobody feels that\'s being censored out.
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Well, while it\\\'s true I love Final Fantasy XIV to bits, I\\\'ve done my level best to be fair here - for instance, annotating or explaining my edits, mentioning the \\\'MMO in the main series\\\' argument, and asking AyaReiko for references to controversial entries rather than just deleting then - which she was good enough to provide. And this time.. I\\\'m sorry but I\\\'m leaving that entry (which I didn\\\'t write, I\\\'ll note) well enough alone, and I apologise to DonZabu for any possible offence, but the simple phrase \\\'This page seems to like the game way more than the game deserves to be liked\\\' already makes it pretty clear that they also have an opinion they\\\'d rather be the dominant one here. And being as it seems to be a negative one, I\\\'ll bet they haven\\\'t much inclination to be involved in the mass of improvements and changes presently going on under the new team leads, either. Besides, to be perfectly frank, while I\\\'m sure it does read like someone who enjoyed the game wrote it, it\\\'s still pretty fair in general, given it uses terms like \\\'faint promise\\\' when talking about optimists, points out the issues with claiming the game is in an ideal state, and cites the concerns around continued repair. To reference OJ, too, at least the negative response is actually cited, and repeatedly at that; everyone here has been very careful to make sure nobody feels that\\\'s being censored out.
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However, right now I recommend doing nothing that doesn\'t involve simply noting tropes contained in the work itself. Final Fantasy XIV\'s in the midst of a massive redevelopment, and setting aside the fact that content is already being changed and problems solved, it\'s still unclear the direction it\'s going to go \'\'and\'\' the game is subscription-free until the issues are resolved, which I\'d say means it should be regarded as being back in beta again and treated with all reservation of judgment the in-development beta-phase warrants. The page will likely be in need of a huge rework, too, once the approved/fixed/confirmed version for the PS3 is released.
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However, right now I recommend doing nothing that doesn\\\'t involve simply noting tropes contained in the work itself. Final Fantasy XIV\\\'s in the midst of a massive redevelopment, and setting aside the fact that content is already being changed and problems solved, it\\\'s still unclear the direction it\\\'s going to go \\\'\\\'and\\\'\\\' the game is subscription-free until the issues are resolved. As such, and given we\\\'ve already thrashed out the \\\'released to early\\\' argument, I\\\'d say it should be regarded as being back in beta again and treated with all reservation of judgment the in-development beta-phase warrants. The page will likely be in need of a huge rework, too, once the approved/fixed/confirmed version for the PS3 is released.
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Well, while it\'s true I love Final Fantasy XIV to bits, I\'ve done my level best to be fair here - for instance, getting that ObviousBeta bit in without it seeming like anyone was bashing anything or being over-defensive, mentioning the \'MMO in the main series\' argument, and asking AyaReiko for references to controversial entries rather than just deleting then - which she was good enough to provide. And this time.. I\'m sorry but I\'m leaving that entry well enough alone, and I apologise to DonZabu for any possible offence, but the simple phrase \'This page seems to like the game way more than the game deserves to be liked\' already makes it pretty clear that they also have an opinion they\'d rather be the dominant one here. And being as it seems to be a negative one, I\'ll bet they haven\'t much inclination to be involved in the mass of improvements and changes presently going on under the new team leads, either. Besides, to be perfectly frank, while I\'m sure it does read like someone who enjoyed the game wrote it, it\'s still pretty fair in general, given it uses terms like \'faint promise\' when talking about optimists, points out the issues with claiming the game is in an ideal state, and cites the concerns around continued repair. To reference OJ, too, at least the negative response is actually cited, and repeatedly at that; everyone here has been very careful to make sure nobody feels that\'s being censored out.
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Well, while it\\\'s true I love Final Fantasy XIV to bits, I\\\'ve done my level best to be fair here - for instance, annotating or explaining my edits, mentioning the \\\'MMO in the main series\\\' argument, and asking AyaReiko for references to controversial entries rather than just deleting then - which she was good enough to provide. And this time.. I\\\'m sorry but I\\\'m leaving that entry well enough alone, and I apologise to DonZabu for any possible offence, but the simple phrase \\\'This page seems to like the game way more than the game deserves to be liked\\\' already makes it pretty clear that they also have an opinion they\\\'d rather be the dominant one here. And being as it seems to be a negative one, I\\\'ll bet they haven\\\'t much inclination to be involved in the mass of improvements and changes presently going on under the new team leads, either. Besides, to be perfectly frank, while I\\\'m sure it does read like someone who enjoyed the game wrote it, it\\\'s still pretty fair in general, given it uses terms like \\\'faint promise\\\' when talking about optimists, points out the issues with claiming the game is in an ideal state, and cites the concerns around continued repair. To reference OJ, too, at least the negative response is actually cited, and repeatedly at that; everyone here has been very careful to make sure nobody feels that\\\'s being censored out.
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Well, while it\'s true I love Final Fantasy XIV to bits, I\'ve done my level best to be fair here - for instance, getting that ObviousBeta bit in without it seeming like anyone was bashing anything or being over-defensive, mentioning the \'MMO in the main series\' argument, and asking AyaReiko for references to controversial entries rather than just deleting then - which she was good enough to provide. And this time.. I\'m sorry but I\'m leaving that entry well enough alone, and I apologise to DonZabu for any possible offence, but the simple phrase \'This page seems to like the game way more than the game deserves to be liked\' already makes it pretty clear that they also have an opinion they\'d rather be the dominant one here. And being as it seems to be a negative one, I\'ll bet they haven\'t much inclination to be involved in the mass of improvements and changes presently going on under the new team leads, either. Besides, to be perfectly frank, while I\'m sure it does read like someone who enjoyed the game wrote it, it\'s still pretty fair in general, given it uses terms like \'faint promise\' when talking about optimists, points out the issues with claiming the game is in an ideal state, and cites the concerns around continued repair. To reference OJ, too, at least the negative response is actually cited, and repeatedly at that; everyone here of a positive bent has been very careful to make sure nobody feels that\'s being censored out.
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Well, while it\\\'s true I love Final Fantasy XIV to bits, I\\\'ve done my level best to be fair here - for instance, getting that ObviousBeta bit in without it seeming like anyone was bashing anything or being over-defensive, mentioning the \\\'MMO in the main series\\\' argument, and asking AyaReiko for references to controversial entries rather than just deleting then - which she was good enough to provide. And this time.. I\\\'m sorry but I\\\'m leaving that entry well enough alone, and I apologise to DonZabu for any possible offence, but the simple phrase \\\'This page seems to like the game way more than the game deserves to be liked\\\' already makes it pretty clear that they also have an opinion they\\\'d rather be the dominant one here. And being as it seems to be a negative one, I\\\'ll bet they haven\\\'t much inclination to be involved in the mass of improvements and changes presently going on under the new team leads, either. Besides, to be perfectly frank, while I\\\'m sure it does read like someone who enjoyed the game wrote it, it\\\'s still pretty fair in general, given it uses terms like \\\'faint promise\\\' when talking about optimists, points out the issues with claiming the game is in an ideal state, and cites the concerns around continued repair. To reference OJ, too, at least the negative response is actually cited, and repeatedly at that; everyone here has been very careful to make sure nobody feels that\\\'s being censored out.
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Well, while it\'s true I love Final Fantasy XIV to bits, I\'ve done my level best to be fair here - for instance, getting that ObviousBeta bit in without it seeming like anyone was bashing anything or being over-defensive, mentioning the \'MMO in the main series\' argument, and asking AyaReiko for references to controversial entries rather than just deleting then - which she was good enough to provide. And this time.. I\'m sorry but I\'m leaving that entry well enough alone, and I apologise to DonZabu for any possible offence, but the simple phrase \'This page seems to like the game way more than the game deserves to be liked\' already makes it pretty clear that they also have an opinion they\'d rather be the dominant one here. And being as it seems to be a negative one, I\'ll bet they haven\'t much inclination to be involved in the mass of improvements and changes presently going on under the new team leads, either. Besides, to be perfectly frank, while I\'m sure it does read like someone who enjoyed the game wrote it, it\'s still pretty fair in general, given it uses terms like \'faint promise\' when talking about optimists, points out the issues with claiming the game is in an ideal state, and cites the concerns around continued repair. To refrence OJ, too, at least the negative response is actually cited, and repeatedly at that; everyone here of a positive bent has been very careful to make sure nobody feels that\'s being censored out.
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Well, while it\\\'s true I love Final Fantasy XIV to bits, I\\\'ve done my level best to be fair here - for instance, getting that ObviousBeta bit in without it seeming like anyone was bashing anything or being over-defensive, mentioning the \\\'MMO in the main series\\\' argument, and asking AyaReiko for references to controversial entries rather than just deleting then - which she was good enough to provide. And this time.. I\\\'m sorry but I\\\'m leaving that entry well enough alone, and I apologise to DonZabu for any possible offence, but the simple phrase \\\'This page seems to like the game way more than the game deserves to be liked\\\' already makes it pretty clear that they also have an opinion they\\\'d rather be the dominant one here. And being as it seems to be a negative one, I\\\'ll bet they haven\\\'t much inclination to be involved in the mass of improvements and changes presently going on under the new team leads, either. Besides, to be perfectly frank, while I\\\'m sure it does read like someone who enjoyed the game wrote it, it\\\'s still pretty fair in general, given it uses terms like \\\'faint promise\\\' when talking about optimists, points out the issues with claiming the game is in an ideal state, and cites the concerns around continued repair. To reference OJ, too, at least the negative response is actually cited, and repeatedly at that; everyone here of a positive bent has been very careful to make sure nobody feels that\\\'s being censored out.
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However, right now I recommend doing nothing that doesn\'t involve simply noting tropes contained in the work itself. Final Fantasy XIV\'s in the midst of a massive redevelopment, and setting aside the fact that content is already being changed and problems solved, it\'s still unclear the direction it\'s going to go \'\'and\'\' the game is subscription-free until the issues are resolved, which I\'d say means it should be regarded as being back in beta again and treated with all reservation of judgment the in-development beta-phase warrants. The page will likely be in need of a huge rework, too, once the \'confirmed\' PS3 version is released.
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However, right now I recommend doing nothing that doesn\\\'t involve simply noting tropes contained in the work itself. Final Fantasy XIV\\\'s in the midst of a massive redevelopment, and setting aside the fact that content is already being changed and problems solved, it\\\'s still unclear the direction it\\\'s going to go \\\'\\\'and\\\'\\\' the game is subscription-free until the issues are resolved, which I\\\'d say means it should be regarded as being back in beta again and treated with all reservation of judgment the in-development beta-phase warrants. The page will likely be in need of a huge rework, too, once the approved/fixed/confirmed version for the PS3 is released.
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These pages, as OJ sort of said and all, are not here for claiming whether or not something is good, and in an ideal world they\'d just be an even-handed discussion of the contents by people interested in the work in question. Unfortunately some people dislike and some like, and nobody can keep that from creeping into their entries, assuming they even want to. If you feel able to make an objective entry for a very, \'\'very\'\' controversial subject (this is a game that is still very active and fun for many, please remember, this regular player included), then please, go ahead and try, but don\'t be offended if I or anyone else feels that your objective is their unfair, and either reverts the change or replaces it in turn. If you do, please transfer it to the YMMV page as well. That\'s something I don\'t feel comfortable doing, especially as one of the game\'s proponents. Aside from not knowing how best to do it, it\'d be easy enough to read it as a \'defender\' trying to sweep important issues out of sight.
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These pages, as OJ sort of said and all, are not here for claiming whether or not something is good, and in an ideal world they\\\'d just be an even-handed discussion of the contents by people interested in the work in question. Unfortunately some people dislike and some like, and nobody can keep that from creeping into their entries, assuming they even want to. If you feel able to make an objective entry for a very, \\\'\\\'very\\\'\\\' controversial subject (this is a game that is still very active and fun for many, please remember, this regular player included), then please, go ahead and try, but don\\\'t be shocked if I or anyone else feels that your objective is their unfair, and either reverts the change or replaces it in turn. If you do, please transfer it to the YMMV page as well. That\\\'s something I don\\\'t feel comfortable doing, especially as one of the game\\\'s proponents. Aside from not knowing how best to do it, it\\\'d be easy enough to read it as a \\\'defender\\\' trying to sweep important issues out of sight.
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These pages, as OJ sort of said and all, are not here for claiming whether or not something is good, and in an ideal world they\'d just be an even-handed discussion of the contents by people who enjoy the work in question. Unfortunately some people dislike and some like, and nobody can keep that from creeping into their entries, assuming they even want to. If you feel able to make an objective entry for a very, \'\'very\'\' controversial subject (this is a game that is still very active and fun for many, please remember, this regular player included), then please, go ahead and try, but don\'t be offended if I or anyone else feels that your objective is their unfair, and either reverts the change or replaces it in turn. If you do, please transfer it to the YMMV page as well. That\'s something I don\'t feel comfortable doing, especially as one of the game\'s proponents. Aside from not knowing how best to do it, it\'d be easy enough to read it as a \'defender\' trying to sweep important issues out of sight.
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These pages, as OJ sort of said and all, are not here for claiming whether or not something is good, and in an ideal world they\\\'d just be an even-handed discussion of the contents by people interested in the work in question. Unfortunately some people dislike and some like, and nobody can keep that from creeping into their entries, assuming they even want to. If you feel able to make an objective entry for a very, \\\'\\\'very\\\'\\\' controversial subject (this is a game that is still very active and fun for many, please remember, this regular player included), then please, go ahead and try, but don\\\'t be offended if I or anyone else feels that your objective is their unfair, and either reverts the change or replaces it in turn. If you do, please transfer it to the YMMV page as well. That\\\'s something I don\\\'t feel comfortable doing, especially as one of the game\\\'s proponents. Aside from not knowing how best to do it, it\\\'d be easy enough to read it as a \\\'defender\\\' trying to sweep important issues out of sight.
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Well, while it\'s true I love Final Fantasy XIV to bits, I\'ve done my level best to be fair here - for instance, getting that ObviousBeta bit in without it seeming like anyone was bashing anything or being over-defensive, mentioning the \'MMO in the main series\' argument, and asking AyaReiko for references to controversial entries rather than just deleting then - which she was good enough to provide. And this time.. I\'m sorry but I\'m leaving that entry well enough alone, and I apologise to DonZabu for any possible offence, but the simple phrase \'This page seems to like the game way more than the game deserves to be liked\' already makes it pretty clear that they also have an opinion they\'d rather be the dominant one here. And being as it seems to be a negative one, I\'ll bet they haven\'t much inclination to be involved in the mass of improvements and changes presently going on under the new team leads, either. Besides, to be perfectly frank, while I\'m sure it does read like someone who enjoyed the game wrote it, it\'s still pretty fair in general, given it uses terms like \'faint promise\' when talking about optimists, points out the issues with claiming the game is in an ideal state, and cites the concerns around continued repair. To refrence OJ, too, at least the negative response is actually cited; everyone here of a positive bent has been very careful to make sure nobody feels that\'s being censored out.
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Well, while it\\\'s true I love Final Fantasy XIV to bits, I\\\'ve done my level best to be fair here - for instance, getting that ObviousBeta bit in without it seeming like anyone was bashing anything or being over-defensive, mentioning the \\\'MMO in the main series\\\' argument, and asking AyaReiko for references to controversial entries rather than just deleting then - which she was good enough to provide. And this time.. I\\\'m sorry but I\\\'m leaving that entry well enough alone, and I apologise to DonZabu for any possible offence, but the simple phrase \\\'This page seems to like the game way more than the game deserves to be liked\\\' already makes it pretty clear that they also have an opinion they\\\'d rather be the dominant one here. And being as it seems to be a negative one, I\\\'ll bet they haven\\\'t much inclination to be involved in the mass of improvements and changes presently going on under the new team leads, either. Besides, to be perfectly frank, while I\\\'m sure it does read like someone who enjoyed the game wrote it, it\\\'s still pretty fair in general, given it uses terms like \\\'faint promise\\\' when talking about optimists, points out the issues with claiming the game is in an ideal state, and cites the concerns around continued repair. To refrence OJ, too, at least the negative response is actually cited, and repeatedly at that; everyone here of a positive bent has been very careful to make sure nobody feels that\\\'s being censored out.
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Well, while it\'s true I love Final Fantasy XIV to bits, I\'ve done my level best to be fair here - for instance, getting that ObviousBeta bit in without it seeming like anyone was bashing anything or being over-defensive. And this time.. I\'m sorry but I\'m leaving that entry well enough alone, and I apologise to DonZabu for any possible offence, but the simple phrase \'This page seems to like the game way more than the game deserves to be liked\' already makes it pretty clear that they also have an opinion they\'d rather be the dominant one here. And being as it seems to be a negative one, I\'ll bet they haven\'t much inclination to be involved in the mass of improvements and changes presently going on under the new team leads, either. Besides, to be perfectly frank, while I\'m sure it does read like someone who enjoyed the game wrote it, it\'s still pretty fair in general, given it uses terms like \'faint promise\' when talking about optimists, points out the issues with claiming the game is in an ideal state, and cites the concerns around continued repair. To refrence OJ, too, at least the negative response is actually cited; everyone here of a positive bent has been very careful to make sure nobody feels that\'s being censored out.
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Well, while it\\\'s true I love Final Fantasy XIV to bits, I\\\'ve done my level best to be fair here - for instance, getting that ObviousBeta bit in without it seeming like anyone was bashing anything or being over-defensive, mentioning the \\\'MMO in the main series\\\' argument, and asking AyaReiko for references to controversial entries rather than just deleting then - which she was good enough to provide. And this time.. I\\\'m sorry but I\\\'m leaving that entry well enough alone, and I apologise to DonZabu for any possible offence, but the simple phrase \\\'This page seems to like the game way more than the game deserves to be liked\\\' already makes it pretty clear that they also have an opinion they\\\'d rather be the dominant one here. And being as it seems to be a negative one, I\\\'ll bet they haven\\\'t much inclination to be involved in the mass of improvements and changes presently going on under the new team leads, either. Besides, to be perfectly frank, while I\\\'m sure it does read like someone who enjoyed the game wrote it, it\\\'s still pretty fair in general, given it uses terms like \\\'faint promise\\\' when talking about optimists, points out the issues with claiming the game is in an ideal state, and cites the concerns around continued repair. To refrence OJ, too, at least the negative response is actually cited; everyone here of a positive bent has been very careful to make sure nobody feels that\\\'s being censored out.
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Well, while it\'s true I love Final Fantasy XIV to bits, I\'ve done my level best to be fair here - for instance, getting that ObviousBeta bit in without it seeming like anyone was bashing anything or being over-defensive. And this time.. I\'m sorry but I\'m leaving that entry well enough alone, and I apologise to DonZabu for any possible offence, but the simple phrase \'This page seems to like the game way more than the game deserves to be liked\' already makes it pretty clear that they also have an opinion they\'d rather be the dominant one here. And being as it seems to be a negative one, I\'ll bet they haven\'t much inclination to be involved in the mass of improvements and changes presently going on under the new team leads, either. Besides, to be perfectly frank, while I\'m sure it does read like someone who enjoyed the game wrote it, it\'s still pretty fair in general, given it uses terms like \'faint promise\' when talking about optimists, points out the issues with claiming the game is in an ideal state, and cites the concerns around continued repair. To cite OJ, too, at least the negative response is actually cited. Everyone here of a positive bent has been very careful to make sure nobody feels that\'s being censored out.
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Well, while it\\\'s true I love Final Fantasy XIV to bits, I\\\'ve done my level best to be fair here - for instance, getting that ObviousBeta bit in without it seeming like anyone was bashing anything or being over-defensive. And this time.. I\\\'m sorry but I\\\'m leaving that entry well enough alone, and I apologise to DonZabu for any possible offence, but the simple phrase \\\'This page seems to like the game way more than the game deserves to be liked\\\' already makes it pretty clear that they also have an opinion they\\\'d rather be the dominant one here. And being as it seems to be a negative one, I\\\'ll bet they haven\\\'t much inclination to be involved in the mass of improvements and changes presently going on under the new team leads, either. Besides, to be perfectly frank, while I\\\'m sure it does read like someone who enjoyed the game wrote it, it\\\'s still pretty fair in general, given it uses terms like \\\'faint promise\\\' when talking about optimists, points out the issues with claiming the game is in an ideal state, and cites the concerns around continued repair. To refrence OJ, too, at least the negative response is actually cited; everyone here of a positive bent has been very careful to make sure nobody feels that\\\'s being censored out.
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However, right now I recommend doing nothing that doesn\'t involve simply noting tropes contained in the work itself. Final Fantasy XIV\'s in the midst of a massive redevelopment, and setting aside the fact that content is already being changed and problems solved, it\'s still unclear the direction it\'s going to go \'\'and\'\' the game is subscription-free until the issues are resolved, which I\'d say means it should be regarded as being back in beta again and treated with all reservation of judgment the in-development beta-phase warrants.
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However, right now I recommend doing nothing that doesn\\\'t involve simply noting tropes contained in the work itself. Final Fantasy XIV\\\'s in the midst of a massive redevelopment, and setting aside the fact that content is already being changed and problems solved, it\\\'s still unclear the direction it\\\'s going to go \\\'\\\'and\\\'\\\' the game is subscription-free until the issues are resolved, which I\\\'d say means it should be regarded as being back in beta again and treated with all reservation of judgment the in-development beta-phase warrants. The page will likely be in need of a huge rework, too, once the \\\'confirmed\\\' PS3 version is released.
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Well, while it\'s true I love Final Fantasy XIV to bits, I\'ve done my level best to be fair here - for instance, getting that ObviousBeta bit in without it seeming like anyone was bashing anything or being over-defensive. And this time.. I\'m sorry but I\'m leaving that entry well enough alone, and I apologise to DonZabu for any possible offence, but the simple phrase \'This page seems to like the game way more than the game deserves to be liked\' already makes it pretty clear that they also have an opinion they\'d rather be the dominant one here. And being as it seems to be a negative one, I\'ll bet they haven\'t much inclination to be involved in the mass of improvements and changes presently going on under the new team leads, either. Besides, to be perfectly frank, while I\'m sure it does read like someone who enjoyed the game wrote it, it\'s still pretty fair in general, given it uses terms like \'faint promise\' when talking about optimists, points out the issues with claiming the game is in an ideal state, and cites the concerns around continued repair.
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Well, while it\\\'s true I love Final Fantasy XIV to bits, I\\\'ve done my level best to be fair here - for instance, getting that ObviousBeta bit in without it seeming like anyone was bashing anything or being over-defensive. And this time.. I\\\'m sorry but I\\\'m leaving that entry well enough alone, and I apologise to DonZabu for any possible offence, but the simple phrase \\\'This page seems to like the game way more than the game deserves to be liked\\\' already makes it pretty clear that they also have an opinion they\\\'d rather be the dominant one here. And being as it seems to be a negative one, I\\\'ll bet they haven\\\'t much inclination to be involved in the mass of improvements and changes presently going on under the new team leads, either. Besides, to be perfectly frank, while I\\\'m sure it does read like someone who enjoyed the game wrote it, it\\\'s still pretty fair in general, given it uses terms like \\\'faint promise\\\' when talking about optimists, points out the issues with claiming the game is in an ideal state, and cites the concerns around continued repair. To cite OJ, too, at least the negative response is actually cited. Everyone here of a positive bent has been very careful to make sure nobody feels that\\\'s being censored out.
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These pages, as OJ says, are not here for claiming whether or not something is good, and in an ideal world they\'d just be an even-handed discussion of the contents by people who enjoy the work in question. Unfortunately some people dislike and some like, and nobody can keep that from creeping into their entries, assuming they even want to. If you feel able to make an objective entry for a very, \'\'very\'\' controversial subject (this is a game that is still very active and fun for many, please remember, this regular player included), then please, go ahead and try, but don\'t be offended if I or anyone else feels that your objective is their unfair, and either reverts the change or replaces it in turn. If you do, please transfer it to the YMMV page as well. That\'s something I don\'t feel comfortable doing, especially as one of the game\'s proponents. Aside from not knowing how best to do it, it\'d be easy enough to read it as a \'defender\' trying to sweep important issues out of sight.
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These pages, as OJ sort of said and all, are not here for claiming whether or not something is good, and in an ideal world they\\\'d just be an even-handed discussion of the contents by people who enjoy the work in question. Unfortunately some people dislike and some like, and nobody can keep that from creeping into their entries, assuming they even want to. If you feel able to make an objective entry for a very, \\\'\\\'very\\\'\\\' controversial subject (this is a game that is still very active and fun for many, please remember, this regular player included), then please, go ahead and try, but don\\\'t be offended if I or anyone else feels that your objective is their unfair, and either reverts the change or replaces it in turn. If you do, please transfer it to the YMMV page as well. That\\\'s something I don\\\'t feel comfortable doing, especially as one of the game\\\'s proponents. Aside from not knowing how best to do it, it\\\'d be easy enough to read it as a \\\'defender\\\' trying to sweep important issues out of sight.
