Discussion History Main / SingleLineOfDescent

If there is an example in here, please be familar with ExampleIndentation and HowToWriteAnExample when returning it to the main page. I\\\'d leave it off there -- the descent of a prominent historical religious figure with rich, complex and contradictory documentation is red-hot natter bait.

* In the \\\'\\\'TheBible\\\'\\\', [[hottip:*:Gospels of Matthew and Luke]] detailed genealogies are laid out for Jesus to establish him as the true King of Israel and the savior of mankind.
** Not quite this trope as these only provide a link to important figures (King David, etc) by Jesus\\\' time he could have been born to nearly a tenth of the nation of Israel.
** Oddly, the two lists [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogy_of_Jesus are almost completely different.]] A common FanWank is that one traces Mary\\\'s ancestors while the other traces Joseph\\\'s, even though both explicitly follow the male line. The entire thing avoids the trope (and becomes fairly bizarre that they would mention it at all) when you consider that one of the core concepts of Christianity is that \\\'\\\'Joseph wasn\\\'t Jesus\\\' father\\\'\\\'.
** According to the Jews, there is also the line of Hilel, which was prominent in Judea until 425 AC, and then relocated to Babel. There still seem to be some descendants.
** Note, however, that the Judaism doesn\\\'t really consider Jesus important at all (he\\\'s a false prophet to them) while for Christianity, Joesph would be, as Jesus\\\' adoptive and legal father, descended by way of Jesus and Mary (more or less). This would be a valid view at the time as such concepts as blood brothers and what not would allow for otherwise unrelated people to be, for all intents, considered relatives.

Remember -- the \\\'\\\'trope\\\'\\\' is \\\"Curious phenomenon where there\\\'s only \\\'\\\'one\\\'\\\' true descendant of the some legendary hero/villain or chosen one.\\\"

If there is an example in here, please be familar with ExampleIndentation and HowToWriteAnExample when returning it to the main page. I\\\'d leave it off there -- the descent of a prominent historical religious figure with rich, complex and contradictory documentation is red-hot natter bait.

* In the \\\'\\\'TheBible\\\'\\\', [[hottip:*:Gospels of Matthew and Luke]] detailed genealogies are laid out for Jesus to establish him as the true King of Israel and the savior of mankind.
** Not quite this trope as these only provide a link to important figures (King David, etc) by Jesus\\\' time he could have been born to nearly a tenth of the nation of Israel.
** Oddly, the two lists [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogy_of_Jesus are almost completely different.]] A common FanWank is that one traces Mary\\\'s ancestors while the other traces Joseph\\\'s, even though both explicitly follow the male line. The entire thing avoids the trope (and becomes fairly bizarre that they would mention it at all) when you consider that one of the core concepts of Christianity is that \\\'\\\'Joseph wasn\\\'t Jesus\\\' father\\\'\\\'.
** According to the Jews, there is also the line of Hilel, which was prominent in Judea until 425 AC, and then relocated to Babel. There still seem to be some descendants.
** Note, however, that the Judaism doesn\\\'t really consider Jesus important at all (he\\\'s a false prophet to them) while for Christianity, Joesph would be, as Jesus\\\' adoptive and legal father, descended by way of Jesus and Mary (more or less). This would be a valid view at the time as such concepts as blood brothers and what not would allow for otherwise unrelated people to be, for all intents, considered relatives.

Remember -- the \\\'\\\'trope\\\'\\\' is \\\"Curious phenomenon where there\\\'s only \\\'\\\'one\\\'\\\' true descendant of the some legendary hero/villain or chosen one.\\\"