Discussion History ComicBook / ThePunisher

Although I still don\\\'t like the Max setting, as it focuses on the dark, bloodthirsty, and mirthless; I \\\"dislike it considerably less\\\", as it is a more realistic one for these types of actions, is entirely self-contained, and highlight serious problems that actually exist within reality/that torture, mutilate, murder, and enslave countless innocent people... but you know, there are the more reliable parts of the news media available for that. Regardless, he is not glorified into a shiny bright icon here, just a dirty tool for a dirty situation. Superhero books should be kept to Superman and the like to be inspiring for something better, or at least to non-massmurderers.

I\\\'m perhaps over-compassionate in certain respects. I tend to feel sorry for people who have been put into horrible circumstances, even if they are murderers. You know, \\\"hate the sin and not the sinner\\\". They have to be completely-in-control-of-their-actions-and-evaluated-to-the-core extremist ideologues, rather than reactive desperate survival values types, for me to say \\\"oh, fuck them\\\", and even then I\\\'m not immune to it on some levels.

As such I find the idea of idealising eternal genocide owens as something pure, good, positive solution reprehensible; and it takes ridiculous amounts of corruption for me not to see the criminal being tortured to death by somebody far more entitled as a human being, who shouldn\\\'t be treated that way. I can defintiely see it as something practical and inescapable. That sometimes we have to kill in order to save greater numbers, but I dislike when it turns into a glorified frenzied sadism orgy.

Heck, I\\\'m used to having pretty much the entirety of American media loudly proclaim that they want to torture me to death and beyond (I\\\'m autistic, so it\\\'s an ongoing \\\"Abomination embodiment of anti-life without a soul, who is not _worthy_ to exist, and should be kicked down into a torture pit with an inane snappy quote! Diiiieee!\\\" kind of thing. As they are uncommon creatures of pure chaos, they don\\\'t like the idea that some (in fact most, but some more than others) people need serious order/structure to function; and instinctively brand it as \\\"evil\\\", perverting all true meaning of the word in the process, while giving, per definition, true sociopath-perspective extremely preferential treatment, regardless that it usually doesn\\\'t remotely apply to either type in reality. Hence. reverse-morality. The victim is always at fault, and it is far worse to strike back or defend yourself than to casually butcher people for kicks and giggles. I.e. as much as they like to kid themselves about it, they frequently act as an honest-to-Gosh-matter-of-fact-analysis-true-force-for-near-absolute-evil... and no the FamilyGuy approach of ripping everything apart to nothingness isn\\\'t remotely a good idea either. It\\\'s just that it sounds like different evil extremes that stand for nothing genuine beyond at best semi-catchy slogans opposing each other, and anybody who notices what\\\'s really going on twisted into a common enemy, regardless if that type is almost uniformly comparatively completely harmless/they have to completely twist it away from reality) and still tend to forgive the individuals, but really don\\\'t like the memetic cancer it represents. Forget the news media sensationalist corruption. It\\\'s utterly banal compared to what the fiction creators spread around, and they have at least as great an effect on the human subconscious.

Although I still don\\\'t like the Max setting, as it focuses on the dark, bloodthirsty, and mirthless; I \\\"dislike it considerably less\\\", as it is a more realistic one for these types of actions, is entirely self-contained, and highlight serious problems that actually exist within reality/that torture, mutilate, murder, and enslave countless innocent people... but you know, there are the more reliable parts of the news media available for that. Regardless, he is not glorified into a shiny bright icon here, just a dirty tool for a dirty situation. Superhero books should be kept to Superman and the like to be inspiring for something better, or at least to non-massmurderers.

I\\\'m perhaps over-compassionate in certain respects. I tend to feel sorry for people who have been put into horrible circumstances, even if they are murderers. You know, \\\"hate the sin and not the sinner\\\". They have to be completely-in-control-of-their-actions-and-evaluated-to-the-core extremist ideologues, rather than reactive desperate survival values types, for me to say \\\"oh, fuck them\\\", and even then I\\\'m not immune to it on some levels.

As such I find the idea of idealising eternal genocide owens as something pure, good, positive solution reprehensible; and it takes ridiculous amounts of corruption for me not to see the criminal being tortured to death by somebody far more entitled as a human being, who shouldn\\\'t be treated that way. I can defintiely see it as something practical and inescapable. That sometimes we have to kill in order to save greater numbers, but I dislike when it turns into a glorified frenzied sadism orgy.

Heck, I\\\'m used to having pretty much the entirety of American media loudly proclaim that they want to torture me to death and beyond (I\\\'m autistic, so it\\\'s an ongoing \\\"Abomination embodiment of anti-life without a soul, who is not _worthy_ to exist, and should be kicked down into a torture pit with an inane snappy quote! Diiiieee!\\\" kind of thing. As they are uncommon creatures of pure chaos, they don\\\'t like the idea that some (in fact most, but some more than others) people need serious order/structure to function; and instinctively brand it as \\\"evil\\\", perverting all true meaning of the word in the process, while giving, per definition, true sociopath-perspective extremely preferential treatment, regardless that it usually doesn\\\'t remotely apply to either type in reality. Hence. reverse-morality. The victim is always at fault, and it is far worse to strike back or defend yourself than to casually butcher people for kicks and giggles. I.e. as much as they like to kid themselves about it, they frequently act as an honest-to-Gosh-matter-of-fact-analysis-true-force-for-near-absolute-evil... and no the FamilyGuy approach of ripping everything apart to nothingness isn\\\'t remotely a good idea either. It\\\'s just that it sounds like different evil extremes that stand for nothing genuine beyond at best semi-catchy slogans opposing each other, and anybody who notices what\\\'s really going on twisted into a common enemy, regardless if that type is almost uniformly comparatively completely harmless/they have to completely twist it away from reality) and still tend to forgive the individuals, but really don\\\'t like the memetic cancer it represents. Forget the news media sensationalist corruption. It\\\'s utterly banal compared to what the fiction creators spread around.

Although I still don\\\'t like the Max setting, as it focuses on the dark, bloodthirsty, and mirthless; I \\\"dislike it considerably less\\\", as it is a more realistic one for these types of actions, is entirely self-contained, and highlight serious problems that actually exist within reality/that torture, mutilate, murder, and enslave countless innocent people... but you know, there are the more reliable parts of the news media available for that. Regardless, he is not glorified into a shiny bright icon here, just a dirty tool for a dirty situation. Superhero books should be kept to Superman and the like to be inspiring for something better, or at least to non-massmurderers.

I\\\'m perhaps over-compassionate in certain respects. I tend to feel sorry for people who have been put into horrible circumstances, even if they are murderers. You know, \\\"hate the sin and not the sinner\\\". They have to be completely-in-control-of-their-actions-and-evaluated-to-the-core extremist ideologues, rather than reactive desperate survival values types, for me to say \\\"oh, fuck them\\\", and even then I\\\'m not immune to it on some levels.

As such I find the idea of idealising eternal genocide owens as something pure, good, positive solution reprehensible; and it takes ridiculous amounts of corruption for me not to see the criminal being tortured to death by somebody far more entitled as a human being, who shouldn\\\'t be treated that way. I can defintiely see it as something practical and inescapable. That sometimes we have to kill in order to save greater numbers, but I dislike when it turns into a glorified frenzied sadism orgy.

Heck, I\\\'m used to having pretty much the entirety of American media loudly proclaim that they want to torture me to death and beyond (I\\\'m autistic, so it\\\'s an ongoing \\\"Abomination embodiment of anti-life without a soul, who is not _worthy_ to exist, and should be kicked down into a torture pit with an inane snappy quote! Diiiieee!\\\" kind of thing. As they are creatures of pure chaos, they don\\\'t like the idea that some people need serious order to function, and instinctively brand it as evil, while giving, per definition, true sociopath-perspective extremely preferential treatment, regardless that it usually doesn\\\'t remotely apply to either type in reality. Hence. reverse-morality. The victim is always at fault, and it is far worse to strike back or defend yourself than to casually butcher people for kicks and giggles. I.e. as much as they like to kid themselves about it, they frequently act as an honest-to-Gosh-matter-of-fact-analysis-true-force-for-near-absolute-evil... and no the FamilyGuy approach of ripping everything apart to nothingness isn\\\'t remotely a good idea either. It\\\'s just that it sounds like different evil extremes that stand for nothing genuine beyond at best semi-catchy slogans opposing each other, and anybody who notices what\\\'s really going on twisted into a common enemy, regardless if that type is almost uniformly comparatively completely harmless/they have to completely twist it away from reality) and still tend to forgive the individuals, but really don\\\'t like the memetic cancer it represents.

Although I still don\\\'t like the Max setting, as it focuses on the dark, bloodthirsty, and mirthless; I \\\"dislike it considerably less\\\", as it is a more realistic one for these types of actions, is entirely self-contained, and highlight serious problems that actually exist within reality/that torture, mutilate, murder, and enslave countless innocent people... but you know, there are the more reliable parts of the news media available for that. Regardless, he is not glorified into a shiny bright icon here, just a dirty tool for a dirty situation. Superhero books should be kept to Superman and the like to be inspiring for something better, or at least to non-massmurderers.

I\\\'m perhaps over-compassionate in certain respects. I tend to feel sorry for people who have been put into horrible circumstances, even if they are murderers. You know, \\\"hate the sin and not the sinner\\\". They have to be completely-in-control-of-their-actions-and-evaluated-to-the-core extremist ideologues, rather than reactive desperate survival values types, for me to say \\\"oh, fuck them\\\", and even then I\\\'m not immune to it on some levels.

As such I find the idea of idealising eternal genocide owens as something pure, good, positive solution reprehensible; and it takes ridiculous amounts of corruption for me not to see the criminal being tortured to death by somebody far more entitled as a human being, who shouldn\\\'t be treated that way. I can defintiely see it as something practical and inescapable. That sometimes we have to kill in order to save greater numbers, but I dislike when it turns into a glorified frenzied sadism orgy.

Heck, I\\\'m used to having pretty much the entirety of American media loudly proclaim that they want to torture me to death and beyond (I\\\'m autistic, so it\\\'s an ongoing \\\"Abomination embodiment of anti-life without a soul, who is not _worthy_ to exist, and should be kicked down into a torture pit with an inane snappy quote! Diiiieee!\\\" kind of thing. As they are creatures of pure chaos, they don\\\'t like the idea that some people need serious order to function, and instinctively brand it as evil, while giving, per definition, true sociopath-perspective extremely preferential treatment, regardless that it usually doesn\\\'t remotely apply to either type in reality. Hence. reverse-morality. The victim is always at fault, and it is far worse to strike back or defend yourself than to casually butcher people for kicks and giggles) and still tend to forgive the individuals, but really don\\\'t like the memetic cancer it represents.

Although I still don\\\'t like the Max setting, as it focuses on the dark, bloodthirsty, and mirthless; I \\\"dislike it considerably less\\\", as it is a more realistic one for these types of actions, is entirely self-contained, and highlight serious problems that actually exist within reality/that torture, mutilate, murder, and enslave countless innocent people... but you know, there are the more reliable parts of the news media available for that. Regardless, he is not glorified into a shiny bright icon here, just a dirty tool for a dirty situation. Superhero books should be kept to Superman and the like to be inspiring for something better, or at least to non-massmurderers.

I\\\'m perhaps over-compassionate in certain respects. I tend to feel sorry for people who have been put into horrible circumstances, even if they are murderers. You know, \\\"hate the sin and not the sinner\\\". They have to be completely-in-control-of-their-actions-and-evaluated-to-the-core extremist ideologues, rather than reactive desperate survival values types, for me to say \\\"oh, fuck them\\\", and even then I\\\'m not immune to it on some levels.

As such I find the idea of idealising eternal genocide owens as something pure, good, positive solution reprehensible; and it takes ridiculous amounts of corruption for me not to see the criminal being tortured to death by somebody far more entitled as a human being, who shouldn\\\'t be treated that way. I can defintiely see it as something practical and inescapable. That sometimes we have to kill in order to save greater numbers, but I dislike when it turns into a glorified frenzied sadism orgy.

Heck, I\\\'m used to having pretty much the entirety of American media loudly proclaim that they want to torture me to death and beyond (I\\\'m autistic) and still tend to forgive the individuals, but really don\\\'t like the memetic cancer it represents.

Although I still don\\\'t like the Max setting, as it focuses on the dark, bloodthirsty, and mirthless; I \\\"dislike it considerably less\\\", as it is a more realistic one for these types of actions, is entirely self-contained, and highlight serious problems that actually exist within reality/that torture, mutilate, murder, and enslave countless innocent people. He is not glorified into a shiny bright icon here, just a dirty tool for a dirty situation. Superhero books should be kept to Superman and the like to be inspiring for something better, or at least to non-massmurderers.

I\\\'m perhaps over-compassionate in certain respects. I tend to feel sorry for people who have been put into horrible circumstances, even if they are murderers. You know, \\\"hate the sin and not the sinner\\\". They have to be completely-in-control-of-their-actions-and-evaluated-to-the-core extremist ideologues, rather than reactive desperate survival values types, for me to say \\\"oh, fuck them\\\", and even then I\\\'m not immune to it on some levels.

As such I find the idea of idealising eternal genocide owens as something pure, good, positive solution reprehensible; and it takes ridiculous amounts of corruption for me not to see the criminal being tortured to death by somebody far more entitled as a human being, who shouldn\\\'t be treated that way. I can defintiely see it as something practical and inescapable. That sometimes we have to kill in order to save greater numbers, but I dislike when it turns into a glorified frenzied sadism orgy.

Heck, I\\\'m used to having pretty much the entirety of American media loudly proclaim that they want to torture me to death and beyond (I\\\'m autistic) and still tend to forgive the individuals, but really don\\\'t like the memetic cancer it represents.

Although I still don\\\'t like the Max setting, as it focuses on the dark, bloodthirsty, and mirthless; I \\\"dislike it considerably less\\\", as it is a more realistic one for these types of actions, is entirely self-contained, and highlight serious problems that actually exist within reality/that torture, mutilate, murder, and enslave countless innocent people. He is not glorified into a shiny bright icon here, just a dirty tool for a dirty situation. Superhero books should be kept to Superman and the like to be inspiring for something better, or at least to non-massmurderers.