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Actually that\'s just FridgeLogic combined with MadeOfIron, but I\'m not going to contest that. I actually hated that part since ExecutiveMeddling made it inconsistent with Mission 13. (a guest panel with Reuben Langdon had him present a deleted scene where Lady actually defended herself against both Dante and Vergil before the plot twist was revealed, removed because \
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Actually that\\\'s just FridgeLogic combined with MadeOfIron, but I\\\'m not going to contest that. I actually hated that part since ExecutiveMeddling made it inconsistent with Mission 13. (a guest panel with Reuben Langdon had him present a deleted scene where Lady actually defended herself against both Dante and Vergil before the plot twist was revealed, removed because \\\"she shouldn\\\'t be that strong\\\". Words can\\\'t describe the [[{{Angrish}} argh]].)
... I hate almost all of the female characters, \\\'\\\'especially\\\'\\\' Lady. But that\\\'d be for a [[{{Tsundere}} slightly different]] [[{{Flanderization}} reason]] than Trish, which is neither here nor there.
I have a problem with more of the way Trish is being \\\'\\\'written\\\'\\\' than anything. There is still every other trope displayed around her--
* She caught Dante off guard in the beginning but [[TheWorfEffect didn\\\'t make a dent even with that]] and existed only to acknowledge his incredible power otherwise, and then she failed trying to get him \\\'\\\'again\\\'\\\' even with the help of Nightmare. Never mind that it was already shown in the beginning cutscene (and all that talk about \\\"incredible power\\\") that she was \\\'\\\'weaker\\\'\\\' than he was and wouldn\\\'t have had much of an effect since Dante had just beaten Nelo Angelo, Griffon, and Phantom in reverse order and she would have needed to be [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil stronger than all of them since the beginning]] for Mundus to logically even \\\'\\\'consider\\\'\\\' her as one of the last lines of defense. Also, [[InTheBack she needed to catch him off guard then too]].
* The InformedAbility was already mentioned.
* She got subdued by Mundus and used as a hostage and her plight was played for drama which overlaps with the InformedAbility (she couldn\\\'t save herself from a pillar that would hit her in 4 seconds after she\\\'d seen it, but saving Dante in 2-3 seconds is alright? [[{{Angrish}} arghflabble]]).
** As a subpoint, her dying suddenly absolved her of how much of a horrible partner she was throughout the rest of the game. Lightning aside, she didn\\\'t even \\\'\\\'pretend\\\'\\\' to help Dante around in the castle. [[{{Understatement}} I do not approve.]] And then
* The plot forgot that she was weaker than Dante (and Mundus as well) just to have her save the day because [[OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow even the cracking statue god was laughing at Dante being too weak to finish him]], also forgetting how the AgonyBeam \\\'\\\'killed\\\'\\\' her in just \\\'\\\'one\\\'\\\' hit. (Also also forgetting about [[ForgottenPhlebotinum Mundus having the power to create more of her, as many as he likes]], but that\\\'s \\\'\\\'another\\\'\\\' story.)
* Just when she started showing a sign of CharacterDevelopment in the anime by leaving Dante to become a freelancing demon hunter presumably because she didn\\\'t want to wait around for calls, and preferred to bring the fight to the demons\\\' doorstep (not to mention the whole \\\"she looks like a woman than Dante said she\\\'d never live up to\\\" part of her character), she proved to be so [[IneffectualLoner ineffectual]] that she came back for DMC4 and works under Dante again. Why isn\\\'t she making a name for herself? Why \\\'\\\'can\\\'t\\\'\\\' she?
* Her sudden proficiency in combat with short knives for one moment in [=DMC4=] was barely explained either, not to mention [[IdiotPlot the plot that didn\\\'t need to be started]] [[WhatAnIdiot that she was responsible for]].
... I guess if I\\\'m not able to fault her for being a FauxActionGirl, I can use those other tropes, AndThatsTerrible. .... Man I\\\'m beginning to hate the writing. Capcom should be ashamed of themselves.
... I hate almost all of the female characters, \\\'\\\'especially\\\'\\\' Lady. But that\\\'d be for a [[{{Tsundere}} slightly different]] [[{{Flanderization}} reason]] than Trish, which is neither here nor there.
I have a problem with more of the way Trish is being \\\'\\\'written\\\'\\\' than anything. There is still every other trope displayed around her--
* She caught Dante off guard in the beginning but [[TheWorfEffect didn\\\'t make a dent even with that]] and existed only to acknowledge his incredible power otherwise, and then she failed trying to get him \\\'\\\'again\\\'\\\' even with the help of Nightmare. Never mind that it was already shown in the beginning cutscene (and all that talk about \\\"incredible power\\\") that she was \\\'\\\'weaker\\\'\\\' than he was and wouldn\\\'t have had much of an effect since Dante had just beaten Nelo Angelo, Griffon, and Phantom in reverse order and she would have needed to be [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil stronger than all of them since the beginning]] for Mundus to logically even \\\'\\\'consider\\\'\\\' her as one of the last lines of defense. Also, [[InTheBack she needed to catch him off guard then too]].
* The InformedAbility was already mentioned.
* She got subdued by Mundus and used as a hostage and her plight was played for drama which overlaps with the InformedAbility (she couldn\\\'t save herself from a pillar that would hit her in 4 seconds after she\\\'d seen it, but saving Dante in 2-3 seconds is alright? [[{{Angrish}} arghflabble]]).
** As a subpoint, her dying suddenly absolved her of how much of a horrible partner she was throughout the rest of the game. Lightning aside, she didn\\\'t even \\\'\\\'pretend\\\'\\\' to help Dante around in the castle. [[{{Understatement}} I do not approve.]] And then
* The plot forgot that she was weaker than Dante (and Mundus as well) just to have her save the day because [[OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow even the cracking statue god was laughing at Dante being too weak to finish him]], also forgetting how the AgonyBeam \\\'\\\'killed\\\'\\\' her in just \\\'\\\'one\\\'\\\' hit. (Also also forgetting about [[ForgottenPhlebotinum Mundus having the power to create more of her, as many as he likes]], but that\\\'s \\\'\\\'another\\\'\\\' story.)
* Just when she started showing a sign of CharacterDevelopment in the anime by leaving Dante to become a freelancing demon hunter presumably because she didn\\\'t want to wait around for calls, and preferred to bring the fight to the demons\\\' doorstep (not to mention the whole \\\"she looks like a woman than Dante said she\\\'d never live up to\\\" part of her character), she proved to be so [[IneffectualLoner ineffectual]] that she came back for DMC4 and works under Dante again. Why isn\\\'t she making a name for herself? Why \\\'\\\'can\\\'t\\\'\\\' she?
* Her sudden proficiency in combat with short knives for one moment in [=DMC4=] was barely explained either, not to mention [[IdiotPlot the plot that didn\\\'t need to be started]] [[WhatAnIdiot that she was responsible for]].
... I guess if I\\\'m not able to fault her for being a FauxActionGirl, I can use those other tropes, AndThatsTerrible. .... Man I\\\'m beginning to hate the writing. Capcom should be ashamed of themselves.
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Actually that\'s just FridgeLogic combined with MadeOfIron, but I\'m not going to contest that. I actually hated that part since ExecutiveMeddling made it inconsistent with Mission 13. (a guest panel with Reuben Langdon had him present a deleted scene where Lady actually defended herself against both Dante and Vergil before the plot twist was revealed, removed because \
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Actually that\\\'s just FridgeLogic combined with MadeOfIron, but I\\\'m not going to contest that. I actually hated that part since ExecutiveMeddling made it inconsistent with Mission 13. (a guest panel with Reuben Langdon had him present a deleted scene where Lady actually defended herself against both Dante and Vergil before the plot twist was revealed, removed because \\\"she shouldn\\\'t be that strong\\\". Words can\\\'t describe the [[{{Angrish}} argh]].)
... I hate almost all of the female characters, \\\'\\\'especially\\\'\\\' Lady. But that\\\'d be for a [[{{Tsundere}} slightly different]] [[{{Flanderization}} reason]] than Trish, which is neither here nor there.
I have a problem with more of the way Trish is being \\\'\\\'written\\\'\\\' than anything. There is still every other trope displayed around her--
* She caught Dante off guard in the beginning but [[TheWorfEffect didn\\\'t make a dent even with that]] and existed only to acknowledge his incredible power otherwise, and then she failed trying to get him \\\'\\\'again\\\'\\\' even with the help of Nightmare. Never mind that it was already shown in the beginning cutscene (and all that talk about \\\"incredible power\\\") that she was \\\'\\\'weaker\\\'\\\' than he was and wouldn\\\'t have had much of an effect since Dante had just beaten Nelo Angelo, Griffon, and Phantom in reverse order and she would have needed to be [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil stronger than all of them since the beginning]] for Mundus to logically even \\\'\\\'consider\\\'\\\' her as one of the last lines of defense. Also, [[InTheBack she needed to catch him off guard then too]].
* The InformedAbility was already mentioned.
* She got subdued by Mundus and used as a hostage and her plight was played for drama which overlaps with the InformedAbility (she couldn\\\'t save herself from a pillar that would hit her in 4 seconds after she\\\'d seen it, but saving Dante in 2-3 seconds is alright? [[{{Angrish}} arghflabble]]).
** As a subpoint, her dying suddenly absolved her of how much of a horrible partner she was throughout the rest of the game. Lightning aside, she didn\\\'t even \\\'\\\'pretend\\\'\\\' to help Dante around in the castle. [[{{Understatement}} I do not approve.]] And then
* The plot forgot that she was weaker than Dante (and Mundus as well) just to have her save the day because [[OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow even the cracking statue god was laughing at Dante being too weak to finish him]], also forgetting how the AgonyBeam \\\'\\\'killed\\\'\\\' her in just \\\'\\\'one\\\'\\\' hit. (Also also forgetting about [[ForgottenPhlebotinum Mundus having the power to create more of her, as many as he likes]], but that\\\'s \\\'\\\'another\\\'\\\' story.)
* Just when she started showing a sign of CharacterDevelopment in the anime by leaving Dante to become a freelancing demon hunter presumably because she didn\\\'t want to wait around for calls, and preferred to bring the fight to the demons\\\' doorstep (not to mention the whole \\\"she looks like a woman than Dante said she\\\'d never live up to\\\" part of her character), she proved to be so [[IneffectualLoner ineffectual]] that she came back for DMC4 and works under Dante again. Why isn\\\'t she making a name for herself? Why \\\'\\\'can\\\'t\\\'\\\' she?
* Her sudden proficiency in combat with short knives for one moment in [=DMC4=] was barely explained either, not to mention [[IdiotPlot the plot that didn\\\'t need to be started]] [[WhatAnIdiot that she was responsible for]].
... I guess if I\\\'m not able to fault her for being a FauxActionGirl, I can use those other tropes, AndThatsBad. .... Man I\\\'m beginning to hate the writing. Capcom should be ashamed of themselves.
... I hate almost all of the female characters, \\\'\\\'especially\\\'\\\' Lady. But that\\\'d be for a [[{{Tsundere}} slightly different]] [[{{Flanderization}} reason]] than Trish, which is neither here nor there.
I have a problem with more of the way Trish is being \\\'\\\'written\\\'\\\' than anything. There is still every other trope displayed around her--
* She caught Dante off guard in the beginning but [[TheWorfEffect didn\\\'t make a dent even with that]] and existed only to acknowledge his incredible power otherwise, and then she failed trying to get him \\\'\\\'again\\\'\\\' even with the help of Nightmare. Never mind that it was already shown in the beginning cutscene (and all that talk about \\\"incredible power\\\") that she was \\\'\\\'weaker\\\'\\\' than he was and wouldn\\\'t have had much of an effect since Dante had just beaten Nelo Angelo, Griffon, and Phantom in reverse order and she would have needed to be [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil stronger than all of them since the beginning]] for Mundus to logically even \\\'\\\'consider\\\'\\\' her as one of the last lines of defense. Also, [[InTheBack she needed to catch him off guard then too]].
* The InformedAbility was already mentioned.
* She got subdued by Mundus and used as a hostage and her plight was played for drama which overlaps with the InformedAbility (she couldn\\\'t save herself from a pillar that would hit her in 4 seconds after she\\\'d seen it, but saving Dante in 2-3 seconds is alright? [[{{Angrish}} arghflabble]]).
** As a subpoint, her dying suddenly absolved her of how much of a horrible partner she was throughout the rest of the game. Lightning aside, she didn\\\'t even \\\'\\\'pretend\\\'\\\' to help Dante around in the castle. [[{{Understatement}} I do not approve.]] And then
* The plot forgot that she was weaker than Dante (and Mundus as well) just to have her save the day because [[OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow even the cracking statue god was laughing at Dante being too weak to finish him]], also forgetting how the AgonyBeam \\\'\\\'killed\\\'\\\' her in just \\\'\\\'one\\\'\\\' hit. (Also also forgetting about [[ForgottenPhlebotinum Mundus having the power to create more of her, as many as he likes]], but that\\\'s \\\'\\\'another\\\'\\\' story.)
* Just when she started showing a sign of CharacterDevelopment in the anime by leaving Dante to become a freelancing demon hunter presumably because she didn\\\'t want to wait around for calls, and preferred to bring the fight to the demons\\\' doorstep (not to mention the whole \\\"she looks like a woman than Dante said she\\\'d never live up to\\\" part of her character), she proved to be so [[IneffectualLoner ineffectual]] that she came back for DMC4 and works under Dante again. Why isn\\\'t she making a name for herself? Why \\\'\\\'can\\\'t\\\'\\\' she?
* Her sudden proficiency in combat with short knives for one moment in [=DMC4=] was barely explained either, not to mention [[IdiotPlot the plot that didn\\\'t need to be started]] [[WhatAnIdiot that she was responsible for]].
... I guess if I\\\'m not able to fault her for being a FauxActionGirl, I can use those other tropes, AndThatsBad. .... Man I\\\'m beginning to hate the writing. Capcom should be ashamed of themselves.
Changed line(s) 5 from:
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Actually that\'s just FridgeLogic combined with MadeOfIron, but I\'m not going to contest that. I actually hated that part since ExecutiveMeddling made it inconsistent with Mission 13. (a guest panel with Reuben Langdon had him present a deleted scene where Lady actually defended herself against both Dante and Vergil before the plot twist was revealed, removed because \
to:
Actually that\\\'s just FridgeLogic combined with MadeOfIron, but I\\\'m not going to contest that. I actually hated that part since ExecutiveMeddling made it inconsistent with Mission 13. (a guest panel with Reuben Langdon had him present a deleted scene where Lady actually defended herself against both Dante and Vergil before the plot twist was revealed, removed because \\\"she shouldn\\\'t be that strong\\\". Words can\\\'t describe the [[Angrish argh]].)
... I hate almost all of the female characters, \\\'\\\'especially\\\'\\\' Lady. But that\\\'d be for a [[{{Tsundere}} slightly different]] [[{{Flanderization}} reason]] than Trish, which is neither here nor there.
I have a problem with more of the way Trish is being \\\'\\\'written\\\'\\\' than anything. There is still every other trope displayed around her--
* She caught Dante off guard in the beginning but [[TheWorfEffect didn\\\'t make a dent even with that]] and existed only to acknowledge his incredible power otherwise, and then she failed trying to get him \\\'\\\'again\\\'\\\' even with the help of Nightmare. Never mind that it was already shown in the beginning cutscene (and all that talk about \\\"incredible power\\\") that she was \\\'\\\'weaker\\\'\\\' than he was and wouldn\\\'t have had much of an effect since Dante had just beaten Nelo Angelo, Griffon, and Phantom in reverse order and she would have needed to be [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil stronger than all of them since the beginning]] for Mundus to logically even \\\'\\\'consider\\\'\\\' her as one of the last lines of defense. Also, [[InTheBack she needed to catch him off guard then too]].
* The InformedAbility was already mentioned.
* She got subdued by Mundus and used as a hostage and her plight was played for drama which overlaps with the InformedAbility (she couldn\\\'t save herself from a pillar that would hit her in 4 seconds after she\\\'d seen it, but saving Dante in 2-3 seconds is alright? [[Angrish arghflabble]]).
** As a subpoint, her dying suddenly absolved her of how much of a horrible partner she was throughout the rest of the game. Lightning aside, she didn\\\'t even \\\'\\\'pretend\\\'\\\' to help Dante around in the castle. [[Understatement I do not approve.]] And then
* The plot forgot that she was weaker than Dante (and Mundus as well) just to have her save the day because [[OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow even the cracking statue god was laughing at Dante being too weak to finish him]], also forgetting how the AgonyBeam \\\'\\\'killed\\\'\\\' her in just \\\'\\\'one\\\'\\\' hit. (Also also forgetting about [[ForgottenPhlebotinum Mundus having the power to create more of her, as many as he likes]], but that\\\'s \\\'\\\'another\\\'\\\' story.)
* Just when she started showing a sign of CharacterDevelopment in the anime by leaving Dante to become a freelancing demon hunter presumably because she didn\\\'t want to wait around for calls, and preferred to bring the fight to the demons\\\' doorstep (not to mention the whole \\\"she looks like a woman than Dante said she\\\'d never live up to\\\" part of her character), she proved to be so [[IneffectualLoner ineffectual]] that she came back for DMC4 and works under Dante again. Why isn\\\'t she making a name for herself? Why \\\'\\\'can\\\'t\\\'\\\' she?
* Her sudden proficiency in combat with short knives for one moment in [=DMC4=] was barely explained either, not to mention [[IdiotPlot the plot that didn\\\'t need to be started]] [[WhatAnIdiot that she was responsible for]].
... I guess if I\\\'m not able to fault her for being a FauxActionGirl, I can use those other tropes, AndThatsBad. .... Man I\\\'m beginning to hate the writing. Capcom should be ashamed of themselves.
... I hate almost all of the female characters, \\\'\\\'especially\\\'\\\' Lady. But that\\\'d be for a [[{{Tsundere}} slightly different]] [[{{Flanderization}} reason]] than Trish, which is neither here nor there.
I have a problem with more of the way Trish is being \\\'\\\'written\\\'\\\' than anything. There is still every other trope displayed around her--
* She caught Dante off guard in the beginning but [[TheWorfEffect didn\\\'t make a dent even with that]] and existed only to acknowledge his incredible power otherwise, and then she failed trying to get him \\\'\\\'again\\\'\\\' even with the help of Nightmare. Never mind that it was already shown in the beginning cutscene (and all that talk about \\\"incredible power\\\") that she was \\\'\\\'weaker\\\'\\\' than he was and wouldn\\\'t have had much of an effect since Dante had just beaten Nelo Angelo, Griffon, and Phantom in reverse order and she would have needed to be [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil stronger than all of them since the beginning]] for Mundus to logically even \\\'\\\'consider\\\'\\\' her as one of the last lines of defense. Also, [[InTheBack she needed to catch him off guard then too]].
* The InformedAbility was already mentioned.
* She got subdued by Mundus and used as a hostage and her plight was played for drama which overlaps with the InformedAbility (she couldn\\\'t save herself from a pillar that would hit her in 4 seconds after she\\\'d seen it, but saving Dante in 2-3 seconds is alright? [[Angrish arghflabble]]).
** As a subpoint, her dying suddenly absolved her of how much of a horrible partner she was throughout the rest of the game. Lightning aside, she didn\\\'t even \\\'\\\'pretend\\\'\\\' to help Dante around in the castle. [[Understatement I do not approve.]] And then
* The plot forgot that she was weaker than Dante (and Mundus as well) just to have her save the day because [[OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow even the cracking statue god was laughing at Dante being too weak to finish him]], also forgetting how the AgonyBeam \\\'\\\'killed\\\'\\\' her in just \\\'\\\'one\\\'\\\' hit. (Also also forgetting about [[ForgottenPhlebotinum Mundus having the power to create more of her, as many as he likes]], but that\\\'s \\\'\\\'another\\\'\\\' story.)
* Just when she started showing a sign of CharacterDevelopment in the anime by leaving Dante to become a freelancing demon hunter presumably because she didn\\\'t want to wait around for calls, and preferred to bring the fight to the demons\\\' doorstep (not to mention the whole \\\"she looks like a woman than Dante said she\\\'d never live up to\\\" part of her character), she proved to be so [[IneffectualLoner ineffectual]] that she came back for DMC4 and works under Dante again. Why isn\\\'t she making a name for herself? Why \\\'\\\'can\\\'t\\\'\\\' she?
* Her sudden proficiency in combat with short knives for one moment in [=DMC4=] was barely explained either, not to mention [[IdiotPlot the plot that didn\\\'t need to be started]] [[WhatAnIdiot that she was responsible for]].
... I guess if I\\\'m not able to fault her for being a FauxActionGirl, I can use those other tropes, AndThatsBad. .... Man I\\\'m beginning to hate the writing. Capcom should be ashamed of themselves.
