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\\\"Takamachi Family\\\" is only mentioned on one audio sound stage(and never mentioned again after that). And on the same CD, it mentions Fate having her own place, and in Vivid, Fate\\\'s family is shown as being with Erio and Caro (the sound stage being a comiket one, and CDs given out at cons aren\\\'t exactly stable ground for canon; see the sound stages where the characters advertised the Movie 1st, which were also given out at cons). Of course, if you take the notion that they are relatives, then living apart is understandable. The only verified ships in the show are Shiro/Momoko, Kyoya/Shinobu, Chrono/Amy, and Griffith/Lucino. Nothing else had been said, and if Nanoha and Fate were men, we wouldn\\\'t even be considering this. A lot of people have even said that ships aren\\\'t the point; Nekama and family relations is the point. So that\\\'s why I tried to edit things down.
There\\\'s also a sound stage where it\\\'s mentioned Yuuno has been teaching Vivio about the library and some magic. So while he may not appear in the yuri-fest that is Vivid, he\\\'s still there.
Lastly, if you want to make fun of both sides, go for it; but if you\\\'re puttin gin \\\"fandumb\\\" just to make fun of NanoFate, that doesn\\\'t quite sit right with me. I don\\\'t believe that should have a place in the trope pages, but I suppose we can differ on it. And you are partially right, that perhaps the NanoFate fandumb aspects should be removed as well. I don\\\'t know, because I wasn\\\'t part of the fandom back when the wars were raging. The only fans I see that make fun of works today, are ones promoting NanoFate. If you can point out Yuunoha shippers acting dumb, please do so. Other than that, the argument as to whether to keep the fundumb aspects up, can go either way.
At any rate, I was trying to remove the subjective stuff; it\\\'s canon that no relations among the main cast has developed into any romantic manner. If you want to see things as subtext, that\\\'s subjective. For instance, the line \\\"the argument has been resolved in favor of NanoFate\\\" is subjective. I changed it to: \\\"the argument continues to rage\\\" because that\\\'s more truthful. Nothing has been resolved relationship wise among the main cast. If I was truly Yuunoha, I would have promoted Yuuno, but I left several passages that hinted NanoFate.
That\\\'s called being objective. If I see something that stretches far to the right, and I shift it back to the center, naturally you\\\'re going to see that as \\\"you obviously favor the left more, because you moved it left!\\\"
There\\\'s also a sound stage where it\\\'s mentioned Yuuno has been teaching Vivio about the library and some magic. So while he may not appear in the yuri-fest that is Vivid, he\\\'s still there.
Lastly, if you want to make fun of both sides, go for it; but if you\\\'re puttin gin \\\"fandumb\\\" just to make fun of NanoFate, that doesn\\\'t quite sit right with me. I don\\\'t believe that should have a place in the trope pages, but I suppose we can differ on it. And you are partially right, that perhaps the NanoFate fandumb aspects should be removed as well. I don\\\'t know, because I wasn\\\'t part of the fandom back when the wars were raging. The only fans I see that make fun of works today, are ones promoting NanoFate. If you can point out Yuunoha shippers acting dumb, please do so. Other than that, the argument as to whether to keep the fundumb aspects up, can go either way.
At any rate, I was trying to remove the subjective stuff; it\\\'s canon that no relations among the main cast has developed into any romantic manner. If you want to see things as subtext, that\\\'s subjective. For instance, the line \\\"the argument has been resolved in favor of NanoFate\\\" is subjective. I changed it to: \\\"the argument continues to rage\\\" because that\\\'s more truthful. Nothing has been resolved relationship wise among the main cast. If I was truly Yuunoha, I would have promoted Yuuno, but I left several passages that hinted NanoFate.
That\\\'s called being objective. If I see something that stretches far to the right, and I shift it back to the center, naturally you\\\'re going to see that as \\\"you obviously favor the left more, because you moved it left!\\\"
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\\\"Takamachi Family\\\" is only mentioned on one audio sound stage(and never mentioned again after that). And on the same CD, it mentions Fate having her own place, and in Vivid, Fate\\\'s family is shown as being with Erio and Caro (the sound stage being a comiket one, and CDs given out at cons aren\\\'t exactly stable ground for canon; see the sound stages where the characters advertised the Movie 1st, which were also given out at cons). Of course, if you take the notion that they are relatives, then living apart is understandable. The only verified ships in the show are Shiro/Momoko, Kyoya/Shinobu, Chrono/Amy, and Griffith/Lucino. Nothing else had been said, and if Nanoha and Fate were men, we wouldn\\\'t even be considering this. A lot of people have even said that ships aren\\\'t the point; Nekama and family relations is the point. So that\\\'s why I tried to edit things down.
There\\\'s also a sound stage where it\\\'s mentioned Yuuno has been teaching Vivio about the library and some magic. So while he may not appear in the yuri-fest that is Vivid, he\\\'s still there.
Lastly, if you want to make fun of both sides, go for it. I don\\\'t believe that should have a place in the trope pages, but I suppose we can differ on it. And you are partially right, that perhaps the NanoFate fandumb aspects should be removed as well. But as it currently stands, it really reads like a NanoFate fan (I guess you) as been editing it to stand out that way.
At any rate, I was trying to remove the subjective stuff; it\\\'s canon that no relations among the main cast has developed into any romantic manner. If you want to see things as subtext, that\\\'s subjective. For instance, the line \\\"the argument has been resolved in favor of NanoFate\\\" is subjective. I changed it to: \\\"the argument continues to rage\\\" because that\\\'s more truthful. Nothing has been resolved relationship wise among the main cast. If I was truly Yuunoha, I would have promoted Yuuno, but I left several passages that hinted NanoFate.
That\\\'s called being objective. If I see something that stretches far to the right, and I shift it back to the center, naturally you\\\'re going to see that as \\\"you obviously favor the left more, because you moved it left!\\\"
There\\\'s also a sound stage where it\\\'s mentioned Yuuno has been teaching Vivio about the library and some magic. So while he may not appear in the yuri-fest that is Vivid, he\\\'s still there.
Lastly, if you want to make fun of both sides, go for it. I don\\\'t believe that should have a place in the trope pages, but I suppose we can differ on it. And you are partially right, that perhaps the NanoFate fandumb aspects should be removed as well. But as it currently stands, it really reads like a NanoFate fan (I guess you) as been editing it to stand out that way.
At any rate, I was trying to remove the subjective stuff; it\\\'s canon that no relations among the main cast has developed into any romantic manner. If you want to see things as subtext, that\\\'s subjective. For instance, the line \\\"the argument has been resolved in favor of NanoFate\\\" is subjective. I changed it to: \\\"the argument continues to rage\\\" because that\\\'s more truthful. Nothing has been resolved relationship wise among the main cast. If I was truly Yuunoha, I would have promoted Yuuno, but I left several passages that hinted NanoFate.
That\\\'s called being objective. If I see something that stretches far to the right, and I shift it back to the center, naturally you\\\'re going to see that as \\\"you obviously favor the left more, because you moved it left!\\\"
