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MagBas
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** \\\"Truly horrendous acts\\\"- subjective. \\\"the story makes no attempt to gloss these over or present them in a positive light\\\"-non subjective. \\\"Acts concealed behind a VillainyDiscretionShot or by the distant Mook don\\\'t count\\\"-non-subjective.
* The character must evoke fear, revulsion and/or hatred from the other characters in the story. If there are other villains around, they are afraid of/dislike this person, too — Even Evil Has Standards, after all (in particularly disturbing stories, with particularly evil villains, even lesser Complete Monsters may fear such a character). If the other characters in the story treat the character as a joke or don\\\'t take them seriously, they fail to qualify.
** Totally non subjective.
* There is no adequate justification or FreudianExcuse to balance out the misdeeds.
** Totally subjective
* The character must show no regret or remorse for their actions, however terrible. It\\\'s better if they obviously enjoy it, but complete lack of emotion or caring will suffice.
** Totally non-subjective.
* Most importantly, the character must have no chance of redemption without being considered a KarmaHoudini. The only way the story could come to anything resembling a happy ending is if they die or are otherwise removed. A HeelFaceTurn is out of the question, and nobody would believe it if it happened. There can be no RedemptionEqualsDeath for this character, and no FateWorseThanDeath is too extreme.
** Well, outside by the \\\"no RedemptionEqualsDeath for this character\\\" and the \\\"A HeelFaceTurn is out of the question\\\", totally subjective.
And this without look to the villain types that never are Complete Monsters:AntiVillain, WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds,
WellIntentionedExtremist, HarmlessVillain, WorthyOpponent, SympatheticMurderer and IneffectualSympatheticVillain are all non-subjective.
* The character must evoke fear, revulsion and/or hatred from the other characters in the story. If there are other villains around, they are afraid of/dislike this person, too — Even Evil Has Standards, after all (in particularly disturbing stories, with particularly evil villains, even lesser Complete Monsters may fear such a character). If the other characters in the story treat the character as a joke or don\\\'t take them seriously, they fail to qualify.
** Totally non subjective.
* There is no adequate justification or FreudianExcuse to balance out the misdeeds.
** Totally subjective
* The character must show no regret or remorse for their actions, however terrible. It\\\'s better if they obviously enjoy it, but complete lack of emotion or caring will suffice.
** Totally non-subjective.
* Most importantly, the character must have no chance of redemption without being considered a KarmaHoudini. The only way the story could come to anything resembling a happy ending is if they die or are otherwise removed. A HeelFaceTurn is out of the question, and nobody would believe it if it happened. There can be no RedemptionEqualsDeath for this character, and no FateWorseThanDeath is too extreme.
** Well, outside by the \\\"no RedemptionEqualsDeath for this character\\\" and the \\\"A HeelFaceTurn is out of the question\\\", totally subjective.
And this without look to the villain types that never are Complete Monsters:AntiVillain, WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds,
WellIntentionedExtremist, HarmlessVillain, WorthyOpponent, SympatheticMurderer and IneffectualSympatheticVillain are all non-subjective.
Changed line(s) 3 from:
n
** \
to:
** \\\"Truly horrendous acts\\\"- subjective. \\\"the story makes no attempt to gloss these over or present them in a positive light\\\"-non subjective. \\\"Acts concealed behind a VillainyDiscretionShot or by the distant Mook don\\\'t count\\\"-non-subjective.
* The character must evoke fear, revulsion and/or hatred from the other characters in the story. If there are other villains around, they are afraid of/dislike this person, too — Even Evil Has Standards, after all (in particularly disturbing stories, with particularly evil villains, even lesser Complete Monsters may fear such a character). If the other characters in the story treat the character as a joke or don\\\'t take them seriously, they fail to qualify.
** Totally non subjective.
* There is no adequate justification or FreudianExcuse to balance out the misdeeds.
** Totally subjective
* The character must show no regret or remorse for their actions, however terrible. It\\\'s better if they obviously enjoy it, but complete lack of emotion or caring will suffice.
** Totally non-subjective.
* Most importantly, the character must have no chance of redemption without being considered a KarmaHoudini. The only way the story could come to anything resembling a happy ending is if they die or are otherwise removed. A HeelFaceTurn is out of the question, and nobody would believe it if it happened. There can be no RedemptionEqualsDeath for this character, and no FateWorseThanDeath is too extreme.
** Well, outside by the \\\"no RedemptionEqualsDeath for this character\\\" and the \\\"A HeelFaceTurn is out of the question\\\", totally subjective.
And this without look to the villain types that never are Complete Monsters:AntiVilain, WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds,
WellIntentionedExtremist, HarmlessVillain, WorthyOpponent, SympatheticMurderer and IneffectualSympatheticVillain are all non-subjective.
* The character must evoke fear, revulsion and/or hatred from the other characters in the story. If there are other villains around, they are afraid of/dislike this person, too — Even Evil Has Standards, after all (in particularly disturbing stories, with particularly evil villains, even lesser Complete Monsters may fear such a character). If the other characters in the story treat the character as a joke or don\\\'t take them seriously, they fail to qualify.
** Totally non subjective.
* There is no adequate justification or FreudianExcuse to balance out the misdeeds.
** Totally subjective
* The character must show no regret or remorse for their actions, however terrible. It\\\'s better if they obviously enjoy it, but complete lack of emotion or caring will suffice.
** Totally non-subjective.
* Most importantly, the character must have no chance of redemption without being considered a KarmaHoudini. The only way the story could come to anything resembling a happy ending is if they die or are otherwise removed. A HeelFaceTurn is out of the question, and nobody would believe it if it happened. There can be no RedemptionEqualsDeath for this character, and no FateWorseThanDeath is too extreme.
** Well, outside by the \\\"no RedemptionEqualsDeath for this character\\\" and the \\\"A HeelFaceTurn is out of the question\\\", totally subjective.
And this without look to the villain types that never are Complete Monsters:AntiVilain, WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds,
WellIntentionedExtremist, HarmlessVillain, WorthyOpponent, SympatheticMurderer and IneffectualSympatheticVillain are all non-subjective.
Changed line(s) 3 from:
n
** \
to:
** \\\"Truly horrendous acts\\\"- subjective. \\\"the story makes no attempt to gloss these over or present them in a positive light\\\"-non subjective. \\\"Acts concealed behind a VillainyDiscretionShot or by the distant Mook don\\\'t count\\\"-non-subjective.
* The character must evoke fear, revulsion and/or hatred from the other characters in the story. If there are other villains around, they are afraid of/dislike this person, too — Even Evil Has Standards, after all (in particularly disturbing stories, with particularly evil villains, even lesser Complete Monsters may fear such a character). If the other characters in the story treat the character as a joke or don\\\'t take them seriously, they fail to qualify.
** Totally non subjective.
* There is no adequate justification or FreudianExcuse to balance out the misdeeds.
** Totally subjective
* The character must show no regret or remorse for their actions, however terrible. It\\\'s better if they obviously enjoy it, but complete lack of emotion or caring will suffice.
** Totally non-subjective.
* Most importantly, the character must have no chance of redemption without being considered a KarmaHoudini. The only way the story could come to anything resembling a happy ending is if they die or are otherwise removed. A HeelFaceTurn is out of the question, and nobody would believe it if it happened. There can be no RedemptionEqualsDeath for this character, and no FateWorseThanDeath is too extreme.
** Well, outside by the \\\"no RedemptionEqualsDeath for this character\\\" and the \\\"A HeelFaceTurn is out of the question\\\", totally subjective.
And this without look to the villain types that never are Complete Monsters:AntiVilain, WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds,
WellIntentionedExtremist, HarmlessVillain, WorthyOpponent, SympatheticMurderer and InefectualSympatheticVillain are all non-subjective.
* The character must evoke fear, revulsion and/or hatred from the other characters in the story. If there are other villains around, they are afraid of/dislike this person, too — Even Evil Has Standards, after all (in particularly disturbing stories, with particularly evil villains, even lesser Complete Monsters may fear such a character). If the other characters in the story treat the character as a joke or don\\\'t take them seriously, they fail to qualify.
** Totally non subjective.
* There is no adequate justification or FreudianExcuse to balance out the misdeeds.
** Totally subjective
* The character must show no regret or remorse for their actions, however terrible. It\\\'s better if they obviously enjoy it, but complete lack of emotion or caring will suffice.
** Totally non-subjective.
* Most importantly, the character must have no chance of redemption without being considered a KarmaHoudini. The only way the story could come to anything resembling a happy ending is if they die or are otherwise removed. A HeelFaceTurn is out of the question, and nobody would believe it if it happened. There can be no RedemptionEqualsDeath for this character, and no FateWorseThanDeath is too extreme.
** Well, outside by the \\\"no RedemptionEqualsDeath for this character\\\" and the \\\"A HeelFaceTurn is out of the question\\\", totally subjective.
And this without look to the villain types that never are Complete Monsters:AntiVilain, WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds,
WellIntentionedExtremist, HarmlessVillain, WorthyOpponent, SympatheticMurderer and InefectualSympatheticVillain are all non-subjective.
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* The character must personally engage in a series of truly horrendous acts, and the story makes no attempt to gloss these over or present them in a positive light. Acts concealed behind a Villainy Discretion Shot or by a distant Mook don\'t count. The Complete Monster usually starts at the Moral Event Horizon and keeps on running, though nothing excludes them becoming one through Character Development.
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to:
* The character must personally engage in a series of truly horrendous acts, and the story makes no attempt to gloss these over or present them in a positive light. Acts concealed behind a VillainyDiscretionShot or by a distant Mook don\\\'t count. The Complete Monster usually starts at the Moral Event Horizon and keeps on running, though nothing excludes them becoming one through Character Development.
** \\\"Truly horrendous acts\\\"- subjective. \\\"the story makes no attempt to gloss these over or present them in a positive light\\\"-non subjective. \\\"Acts concealed behind a VillainyDiscretionShot or by the distant Mook don\\\'t count\\\"-non-subjective.
* The character must evoke fear, revulsion and/or hatred from the other characters in the story. If there are other villains around, they are afraid of/dislike this person, too — Even Evil Has Standards, after all (in particularly disturbing stories, with particularly evil villains, even lesser Complete Monsters may fear such a character). If the other characters in the story treat the character as a joke or don\\\'t take them seriously, they fail to qualify.
** Totally non subjective.
* There is no adequate justification or FreudianExcuse to balance out the misdeeds.
** Totally subjective
* The character must show no regret or remorse for their actions, however terrible. It\\\'s better if they obviously enjoy it, but complete lack of emotion or caring will suffice.
** Totally non-subjective.
* Most importantly, the character must have no chance of redemption without being considered a KarmaHoudini. The only way the story could come to anything resembling a happy ending is if they die or are otherwise removed. A HeelFaceTurn is out of the question, and nobody would believe it if it happened. There can be no RedemptionEqualsDeath for this character, and no FateWorseThanDeath is too extreme.
** Well, outside by the \\\"no RedemptionEqualsDeath for this character\\\" and the \\\"A HeelFaceTurn is out of the question\\\", totally subjective.
And this without look to the villain types that never are Complete Monsters:AntiVilain, WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds,
WellIntentionedExtremist, HarmlessVillain, WorthyOpponent, SympatheticMurderer and InnefectualSympatheticVillain are all non-subjective.
** \\\"Truly horrendous acts\\\"- subjective. \\\"the story makes no attempt to gloss these over or present them in a positive light\\\"-non subjective. \\\"Acts concealed behind a VillainyDiscretionShot or by the distant Mook don\\\'t count\\\"-non-subjective.
* The character must evoke fear, revulsion and/or hatred from the other characters in the story. If there are other villains around, they are afraid of/dislike this person, too — Even Evil Has Standards, after all (in particularly disturbing stories, with particularly evil villains, even lesser Complete Monsters may fear such a character). If the other characters in the story treat the character as a joke or don\\\'t take them seriously, they fail to qualify.
** Totally non subjective.
* There is no adequate justification or FreudianExcuse to balance out the misdeeds.
** Totally subjective
* The character must show no regret or remorse for their actions, however terrible. It\\\'s better if they obviously enjoy it, but complete lack of emotion or caring will suffice.
** Totally non-subjective.
* Most importantly, the character must have no chance of redemption without being considered a KarmaHoudini. The only way the story could come to anything resembling a happy ending is if they die or are otherwise removed. A HeelFaceTurn is out of the question, and nobody would believe it if it happened. There can be no RedemptionEqualsDeath for this character, and no FateWorseThanDeath is too extreme.
** Well, outside by the \\\"no RedemptionEqualsDeath for this character\\\" and the \\\"A HeelFaceTurn is out of the question\\\", totally subjective.
And this without look to the villain types that never are Complete Monsters:AntiVilain, WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds,
WellIntentionedExtremist, HarmlessVillain, WorthyOpponent, SympatheticMurderer and InnefectualSympatheticVillain are all non-subjective.
