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I\'m a bit confused about the assumption that it was literally Mike\'s declaration of love being the thing that empowered El to break free of the vines because that\'s not how the scene actually happens? During Mike\'s confession, the vines tighten and El is crying and miserable and only when Mike tells her about the \
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I\'m a bit confused about the assumption that it was literally Mike\'s declaration of love being the thing that empowered El to break free of the vines because that\'s not how the scene actually happens? During Mike\'s confession, the vines tighten and El is crying and miserable and only when Mike tells her about the \
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I\\\'m a bit confused about the assumption that it was literally Mike\\\'s declaration of love being the thing that empowered El to break free of the vines because that\\\'s not how the scene actually happens? During Mike\\\'s confession, the vines tighten and El is crying and miserable and only when Mike tells her about the \\\"Benny\\\'s burgers tee-shirt\\\" that she was wearing when they met does she crack a smile. So she was certainly capable of smiling before and after this which means her miserable reaction to Mike\\\'s monologue was likely genuine, not something that would be empowering to her. And indeed, the vines loosen only after she looks at Max, so the scene always read to me like it was seeing Max in danger was what empowered her and not Mike\\\'s monologue.

Mike\\\'s monologue just in general was pretty weird as it was rife with easily verifiable falsehoods and half-truths but I digress. The point is though that after the monologue, Mike and El barely interact, like it never even happened and El\\\'s side-eye and grimace at Mike at Hopper\\\'s cabin before closing the door doesn\\\'t read to me like the behavior of someone who was inspired by ThePowerOfLove of their significant other and more like she didn\\\'t buy anything that he actually said. Also during this scene she was not thinking about Max until she grabbed the coke bottle after her side-eye and closing the door so this was definitely about Mike.

To summarize, Mike\\\'s monologue didn\\\'t \\\"save\\\" their relationship or motivate El to fight Vecna and quite frankly, I think it is over (if El looking at the same kind of flowers Mike picked for her earlier in the season rotting away is any indication) and I want to delete or edit to reflect that Mike\\\'s monologue wasn\\\'t El\\\'s motivator and that it was El seeing Max getting hurt that was her actual motivator. So I ask my fellow tropers, is this just me completely misreading the scene or do I have a point?
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